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harpo
29-10-2007, 16:51
can any one help me.im new to bushcraft and im after a sleeping bag,2-3 season and lightweight too.the smaller it rolls up the better.there are a fair few ive noticed.i hear snugpack are pretty good.

CLEM
29-10-2007, 16:56
Ello mate,Ive a couple of snugpack bags and I cannot fault either of them to be honest,does what it says on the tin.I know there are many fans on here of Norona bags.

harpo
29-10-2007, 16:58
cheers for that dave,will tek it you are pleased with them.

CLEM
29-10-2007, 17:08
cheers for that dave,will tek it you are pleased with them.
Yes mate,Ive found them to be very good.Thing is with bags is we all sleep differently,some folks are warm sleepers and others not so warm and so need/choose different bags.I am sure you will get loads of different opinions on this for that very reason.

CLEM
29-10-2007, 19:06
Have you tried the search function on this forum Harpo mate???

I am sure that loads of the more learned BCUK memberss will be along to give you their thoughts,advice and opinions Harpo,what with you being new to Bushcraft and all!

harpo
29-10-2007, 20:40
i certainly hope so clem,being a bushcraft virgin to boot!!!!

Chris G
29-10-2007, 21:45
If £ is tight, Tescos are doing 400gsm (g/sq m) for £29.99. Allegedly is max (min) temperature is -28.5 deg C. :o May be worth a look.

Chris

PS - usual disclaimers, blah, blah, blah.

scanker
29-10-2007, 21:45
I have an Alpkit bag and like it very much. I think perhaps Nanok is the brand Clem means in his earlier post.

CLEM
29-10-2007, 22:42
I have an Alpkit bag and like it very much. I think perhaps Nanok is the brand Clem means in his earlier post.Yep thats what I ment Scanker:)

Zammo
29-10-2007, 23:14
Ello mate,Ive a couple of snugpack bags and I cannot fault either of them to be honest,does what it says on the tin.I know there are many fans on here of Norona bags.

I thought that's the main criticism of Snugpack bags, it doesn't do what it says on the tin i.e it says they can be used at a certain temperature but you have to take this with a huge pinch of salt.

CLEM
30-10-2007, 01:37
I thought that's the main criticism of Snugpack bags, it doesn't do what it says on the tin i.e it says they can be used at a certain temperature but you have to take this with a huge pinch of salt.You can only speak as you find,and Ive found the Sugpack bags Ive used to be fine.

spamel
30-10-2007, 01:42
A current issue bag would be a good place to start at this time of year, it'll keep you warm. Shop around and you can get them cheap, plus later on if you want to change to a gucci bag, you can flog it on eBay to some cretin who doesn't shop around and get your money back plus maybe a little more!

:D

h2o
30-10-2007, 01:45
ive got 3 snugpaks !!!

Shewie
30-10-2007, 01:56
Firstly welcome to the site Harpo !!

I`d second Spamels` advice and go for a current issue bag for starters and see how you get on. I`ve used an issue cold weather bag for about four years during autumn and winter and it`s kept me nice and toasty.

Should be getting a Snugpak Elite 4 soon though from somebody on here so that should be nice !!

Aragorn
30-10-2007, 03:37
sounds about right, cheap as chips and easy to get hold of, they don't compress small, but neither do the nanok which are a fair bit dearer, spam knows what he's talking about, you won't go far wrong. Oh and welcome to the site, love the avatar, reminds my of saturday mornings when i was a kid, loved the hair bear bunch. :D

Lithril
30-10-2007, 08:48
Snugpack are great but incredibly optimistic for most people with regards to comfort ratings. When I was after a synthetic bag I spent hours flitting between the Nanok bags and the Mountain Equipment TDS range, the ME bags one because the stretch panels. Unfortuanately the bags don't pack small so I'm about to buy an alpkit down bag along with the bag covers, very cheap and from the reviews they get the quality is great. If you use their bag cover (lightweight bivvi) you don't have to worry quite so much about the down getting wet.

Matt

harpo
30-10-2007, 10:34
thank you all for yor advice,its appreciated.wil look around and see what offers there are.i know you can get current issue bags at a reasonable price,(coffers are limited at the mo),so i think i shall have a gander at those and see what develops.thanks again,you have all been a great help.hair bears rule.happy days.

CLEM
30-10-2007, 13:19
I know these aint what you would call budget kit,but what do you folks reckon to them???


http://www.surplusandoutdoors.com/ishop/877/shopscr3067.html


http://www.surplusandoutdoors.com/ishop/877/shopscr3008.html

Dr Onion
30-10-2007, 13:45
Bought one of these for me and the missus when we went on our course at end of July - we were not disappointed

BA Sleep System (http://www.surplusandadventure.com/ishop/800/shopscr3567.html)

Cheers

Dr O

harpo
30-10-2007, 14:29
many thanks dr O,that looks ideal.and the price aint bad either.shall delve further into this possible remedy.

harpo
30-10-2007, 14:34
nice modulaters clem,may purchase one later when more experienced,(and got a bit more cash)

lottie.lou
30-10-2007, 23:55
After being very unsatisfied with a bag I bought I put a lot of time and effort into reading up on all of the different types of bag. I found the general consensus to be;

Snugpack are good but as people mentioned they are nowhere near their comfort rating. I suppose it depends how cold you sleep.

I read a lot up on synthetic bags but as you're concerned about space I won't bore you with that unless you're interested.

Down bags are so expensive and with the concern of them getting wet I was a little put off until I was pointed in the direction of Alpkit who sell bags which a magazine reported fair better then ones 3 times the price. Coincidently I've just done what Lithril mentioned and bought a down Alpkit bag and their lightweight Bivvibag. They have different sized bags too which is great if you anything other then the average size. I was told they store their bags uncompressed too which with is uncommon.

Zammo
31-10-2007, 06:17
Not exactly cheap though, the Alpkit Pipedream 400 will set you back £105 plus you need to buy a bivi bag on top of that.

scanker
31-10-2007, 09:22
It looks they're re-vamping their range though, and the pipedream bag was always a bit more expensive as it's made from a very lightweight fabric. I have an AD500 and think it was £85. I might have bought a long version though, I can't remember. It's worth remembering Alpkit prices all include UK delivery.

lottie.lou
31-10-2007, 11:15
Not exactly cheap though, the Alpkit Pipedream 400 will set you back £105 plus you need to buy a bivi bag on top of that.

I suppose it depends how cold you get in the night. Having tried a number of different bags under £100 and being so cold I couldn't sleep, to me paying that extra bit of money for something I'll get a lot of use out of is no problem. In desperation I eventually ended looking at the £300 bags so £100 is cheap in comparison.

Mike.W
31-10-2007, 14:27
New to this site, and bushcraft for that matter, so hi to all.

Thought I would hijack this discussion for my own purposes straight off, but hope the info might be useful to harpo also, apologies if not and for any repeat of info elsewhere.

What would people recommend between British Army Sleep System at about 40 quid, British Army Snugpak Softie 18 at about 60 quid or a Nanok Endurance SF -10. I already have a good down bad for when I'm going to be straying a long way but am after something for out in the woods and camping with the family when things don't get looked after so well. I will be sleeping in a hammock some of the time, like to be warm and am 6ft average build. Size and weight when packed not really an issue.

Cheers.