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ANDYLASER
20-07-2004, 13:24
I have been in contact with Schwert, regarding these items. I think it would be a good idea if everybody who wants some of these puts their name below with the quantity and type that they require. This will allow Schwert and Keith to gauge how many are required.
Details:
Bress, weight 76g
Black anodized aluminium, weight 29g
Cost, $20 approx
Shipping, $6 approx for about 5 cases
Picture courtesy of BAHDog
http://photos.imageevent.com/boynhisdog/illusionsoflife/Matchcase2.jpg
ANDYLASER
20-07-2004, 13:44
I would like 3 x aluminium ones please.
mojofilter
20-07-2004, 13:55
Mmmmmmmm, nice. I will have 2 brass ones please.
thanks
Stuarty
1 Brass one for me too please. :-)
shackleton
20-07-2004, 14:33
I would be interested in one brass one please. Many thanks.
Put me down for a brass one please.
Thanks
ranger
Andy,
do you know what sort of compass is supplied with thw matchcases?
Crofter
1 brass and 1 aluminium please.
Thanks
Jon.
ANDYLASER
20-07-2004, 18:18
Andy,
do you know what sort of compass is supplied with thw matchcases?
Crofter
No, not yet I'm afraid.
Cabales.com sell the same thing with a Brunton (spelling?) compass which is similar to the silva compass for $15.
I have had one of these for a long time and while they are robust and high quality I find them way to heavy for what they are.
can you put me down for 1 brass and 1 ali
cheers,
I'd like one of each brass and black ally please. I've seen picture of them in black and yellow finishes but never was able to identify the maker. Thanks, Alick
put me down for one in black Aluminum
bushwacker bob
21-07-2004, 00:10
I' :wave: ll have a black ali one please
Another for the black 2 Aluminium please and two brass. :o):
I would like a brass one please.
Thank you Andy
A brass one for me please
Wow, loads of interest.
I will call Keith Lunder's today and see what he has to say about current compass availability and type.
Compasses have varied over the years, but he is very limited to suppliers, either Suunto or Silva (or one of its namesakes in the US including Brunton). My last conversation with him indicated that Brunton was the supplier but that huge numbers of the compasses were defective right from the manufacturer. These used to be high quality jeweled compasses but the design now uses no jeweled bearing points only a divot on the compass card.
Beware that the current Cabala's version(last half year or so) is a direct copy made in Asia. I personally will have nothing to do with that one. It may be good but in my view it is unethical. Cabala's once marketed real K&M cases, so if you have one from more than a year or so ago it was made by Keith. I have never seen the imported version.
I will post anything I learn from Keith as soon as I can. I encourage any of you to call him direct if you so desire.
I just got off the phone with Keith. A couple of issues.
He expects a new (and promised better) shipment of compasses in August. If these check out good then he is back in production, but no one should count on this until he has had a chance to evaluate them.
Keith is also dealing with a ill, aged mother so that will take priority over making cases etc.
Keith is not paypal or Visa ready, so creativity will be required.
Case cost will be $15 to Keith. That means if we find some PayPal or other way to transfer funds the price will increase by whatever the electronic means charge plus postage.
I estimate shipping via Global Priority Mail will cost $5-6 up to a certain number of cases that I am estimating at about 5 (brass, more aluminum). I will get the details of this mailer later. So in other words one case will cost about $21 (assuming paypal get 3%) but each additional case will only cost $15 plus the paypal percentage up to about 5 cases (again depending on shipping etc).
Keith may not have time to mess with a bunch of small shipments but I would be willing to do the shipping.
So keep the interest posts coming, and I will let you know about the new compasses when Keith knows.
Also any of you who are close together doing a group purchase will save a bit on shipping.
I made a tally of the posts so far and have 10 brass and 9 aluminum cases.
Two more brass from down here in New Zealand please!
:wave:
Temporarily upside down Danzo
I would like a black aluminium one.
Will Her Majesty's Customs and Excise be wanting a cut too?
NickBristol
22-07-2004, 11:03
Can I have a black alu one please? :wave:
Cheers
Nick
Andy, I have just edited my order, there is more interest from people who are not on the site that have been watching over my shoulder.
They had the same opinion as we have this is a nice piece of kit. :o):
gurushaun
22-07-2004, 13:41
I'd love 1 brass and 1 aluminium please :o):
Cheers
Shaun
ANDYLASER
22-07-2004, 13:44
Will Her Majesty's Customs and Excise be wanting a cut too?
Hopefully not, the value should be under the limit for charges.
Also this is the tally list I have so far....please check to both make sure you are on the list and that the number and materials are correct. I will keep editing this post as the thread grows.
Andylaser-------3A
stuarty---------2B
MarkG----------1B
shackleton------1A
ranger----------1B
crofter----------1B
jon-------------1B ,1A
wayne----------1B,1A
alick------------1B,1A
Dougie----------1A
Bushwacker Bob--1A
leon-1-----------1B,2A
boaty------------1B
Danzo------------2B
Doc--------------1A
NickBristol--------1A
gurushaun--------1B,1A
Quarterstaff------2B
grumit------------1B, 1A
maximus otter-----2B
Hjaltlander--------2B
Great Pebble------1B
Total-------------22B,14A
ANDYLASER
22-07-2004, 20:55
Please add 2x brass on behalf of Quarterstaff from B/B
i would like one of each if it's not to much hasle to send them here to guernsey could you let me know :wink:
Grumit,
If the post can find guernsey then you are in. :o):
Amazing, now about 40 cases in just a few days. I will call Keith midweek next and give him an update. I will give him a link to this thread too. Getting onto forums is not too high in his priority list, but I think he would be surprised by the turnout.
Good kit speaks for itself I think. This is good kit from a good guy.
I ordered one of Keith's cases from LLBean back in about 1989 or 1990. The minute it arrived I sent him a letter (yea a letter :shock: , no internet back then :?: ) expressing my appreciation for the simple but sure design. Since then we have been in and out of contact over the years and I still marvel at the simplicity and sureness of these cases. I do not use the compass for wilderness navigation, but I have been surprised by how often it is a convenient tool. The matches are used very infrequently but are set should I need them. I also carry a couple of needles wound with a bit of waxed thread for a minimal repair kit in mine.
Not sure what sort of strike-anywhere matches you have but ours are 55mm to 60mm. My most recent ones needed a slight trim to fit the case properly. It seems that the stick has been both lengthened and thinned....not exactly the way to improve them in my view.
Once the cases arrive in your hands, take a few moments to measure your matches and make sure they are not too long. The plug is properly placed with a twist to tension the cords. Should the matches be too long they will strike....not a good thing. :yikes:
Silva packaging on these recommended matches be carried tips down, away from the plug, but half up half down packs better and that is what I do. I have carried one of these cases with Diamond strike-anywhere matches daily for over 14 years.
I highly recommend these and hope you all like them as much as I do. Hopefully the August compasses will be good and you can soon share my excitement with these cases.
the laws in the uk governing strike anywhere matches are stricter than in the US the result is that our matches do not light so easly and do not flare up as impressivley as the US variety.
though not always the case british matches are usually slighty smaller (the heads certainly are)
gurushaun
23-07-2004, 15:22
Can any one recommend a source of GOOD lifeboat matches, some of the ones I've used in the past have been rather dissapointing :yikes: .
Cheers
Shaun
ANDYLASER
23-07-2004, 15:50
Yes,
http://www.edirectory.co.uk/penrith_survival/pages/moreinfoa.asp?recordid=52813&cid=55
Had some of these for years, still work without fail.
gurushaun
23-07-2004, 16:20
Cheers Andy, thanks for the link :biggthump
Shaun
Schwert, you're a glutton for punishment, eh? :yikes: I think Kieth should make you a full time associate.
But seriously, I: need some patches made you know anyone who can do them quick? :o):
Seriously though, it's mighty nice of you to get this together for this forum too. Ya da man. :super:
Sometimes the sharpened stick just cannot help but poke. :?:
Same issues, different IP address...
No engraving, no embroidery, same old compass problems...Keith was just born a decade too early...otherwise he probably would be all over these places supplying great cases worldwide...so instead he has a tired old geeky chemist playing the advocate....
maximus otter
24-07-2004, 11:00
I think I need two of the brass ones. What a top-looking piece of kit!
maximus otter
Hjaltlander
24-07-2004, 15:37
Hi Guys,
Could you stick me down for two brass ones please, Thanks
Hjaltlander
I think you are all going to like these matchcases. They are most definately the dog's ******** (that means good, right? ******** mean bad and dog's bullocks means good? :lol: )
I got the one pictured in a forum trade from fellow in Kentucky. Traded an SAK for it and really like this finely crafted piece of kit. I am currently waiting for my aluminum version.
ANDYLASER
24-07-2004, 17:16
Your knowledge of English profanities is faultless BAHDog.
bigjackbrass
24-07-2004, 22:29
I bought a K&M case through Cabela's four or five years ago. Heavy, yes, but superbly made and damn near indestructible, I can certainly recommend them to anyone after this sort of case. Pretty rotten of Cabela's to switch to a copy, although doubtless they had their reasons (cost, most likely).
Any news on the match case front?
Wayne, I PM'd Andy earlier today about this, he said that Schwert had said that it would probably be late august before we heard anything :wave:
Wayne, I PM'd Andy earlier today about this, he said that Schwert had said that it would probably be late august before we heard anything :wave:
Cheers mate that was quick. :super:
Yup, Leon is right. Nothing to report from Keith Lunders so far. I have not forgotten you all though.
Keith should be close to done on another project he is doing for me and another forum. Once that is done and when the compasses arrive we should be good to get going.
Because Keith's Mother is fairly ill, I hate to call him and bother him much, but I may give him a ring this week to see how everything is going and if he has any compass news.
Fingers crossed.
Thanks for keeping us informed Schwert. :wave:
ANDYLASER
18-08-2004, 18:03
Cheers Schwert. :biggthump
Schwert, Andylaser PMd me to say you weren't sure what I wanted if this goes ahead.
2 x Brass please.
:biggthump
Danzo
Danzo, Thanks I had you down for 5 brass for some reason. Thanks.
Great Pebble
20-08-2004, 19:47
Add another brass one if it's not too much bother.
Got you PB.
Probably should ask everyone to go to page 2 of this thread and review the list of suspects and your choices according to me....any changes just let me know.
I did not call Keith this week. I will do so next week however.
Randy
Those brass cases do look nice...any of you guys use the jet lighters however?
Just FYI but there's the Victorinox SwissFlame, knife/lighter combo. I've bought this but have yet to field test it.
I just got an update from Keith, and it looks like he currently is working full-time and expects to (hopes to) through the fall and winter. He will not be doing any matchcases until sometime after these jobs end. This does not mean "never" but unfortunately for now it does mean "sometime later".
Here is a portion of his email to me:
Well my friend, once again I'm indebted to you for your efforts on our behalf. I hope to have more time to work on our own business because I really believe the sales are out there through the internet, but it's impossible to pass up a real income after such a long dry spell. But please feel free to remind me once in a while that I'm getting behind - it helps kick start me. Let's take it one day at a time and see how it works out.
I will continue my discussions with him over the next few months and see if things change. I sent him the list of matchcases you all are interested in so he knows there is a market need.
Sorry about this news right now for the group effort....
Randy
Schwert thanx for the update. We all need to earn a crust. can youlet us know when keith is able to make some more after he finishes his current commitments and than you for your efforts on our behalf.
Kevin : I've had a Campflame (like Swissflame) for 6 months or so. So far utterly reliable, just as you'd expect from Victorinox.
Randy: I'm glad Keith has got work lined up, even if it means no matchcases this year. The folk on this forum can recognise good kit when they see it.
A slight update for you folks.
Keith and I just distributed nearly 70 matchcases to another forum I belong to. I have been begging him to look through his inventory of case bodies and compasses to see if he could easily assemble some matchcases for you.
Right now he is very busy working, but with winter approaching I am hopeful that he will be able to find a few spare moments to make up a few more cases. He got his firewood cut but not yet split, and bagged an elk for the winter meat supply, so things are falling in place.
I will keep trying, I have not given up.
Cheers Schwert :biggthump
nevetsjc80
15-10-2004, 11:48
If its not to late i d like a brass one. and also where can you get thoughs strike anywhere matches in the picture from in the uk. The only non-safty matches i can find here are swan matches?
Steve
Like Steve, I'm a little behind the curve, any chance of getting a Brass one as well as they look very usefull.
Brian
I got my matchsafes from Schwert on the other forum. They are a beautiful combination of form and function. If ya'll have a chance to get one, do it.
I got one of each and am glad I did. For use, I think the ligthweight aluminum is going to get the nod. The classic brass one is pretty nice too, but it's pretty heavy. :o):
Missed this thread :roll: Put me down for 2 brass if it's not too late!
Alright fellows. Please note I am adding the new requests but there is not certainty that this will happen anytime soon.
I cannot edit the post on page 2 with the tally so I begin anew here:
Also this is the tally list I have so far....please check to both make sure you are on the list and that the number and materials are correct. I will keep editing this post as the thread grows.
Andylaser-------3A
stuarty---------2B
MarkG----------1B
shackleton------1A
ranger----------1B
crofter----------1B
jon-------------1B ,1A
wayne----------1B,1A
alick------------1B,1A
Dougie----------1A
Bushwacker Bob--1A
leon-1-----------1B,2A
boaty------------1B
Danzo------------2B
Doc--------------1A
NickBristol--------1A
gurushaun--------1B,1A
Quarterstaff------2B
grumit------------1B, 1A
maximus otter-----2B
Hjaltlander--------2B
Great Pebble------1B
nevetsjc80--------1B
Brian--------------1B
familne------------2B
magikelly----------2B
spiritofold---------1B
Neil1--------------1B
Huon--------------1B, 1A
Total-------------29B,14A
MagiKelly
15-10-2004, 19:44
I nearly managed to resist. Put me down for two brass. Thanks.:biggthump
spiritofold
15-10-2004, 19:49
Hi :)
1 brass for me as well if its still on offer?
Andy.. ..
Got you new guys...remember at this point this really is an interested list of folks....I cannot promise that Keith will be making any matchcases anytime soon...fingers crossed but this gives me a great place to start my gentle reminders to Keith.
Schwert,
I missed this one too, put me down for a brass one too.
Neil
Hi Schwert,
Could you put me down as well. 1 Brass and 1 Aluminium.
Cheers,
Huon
aww.. i have been resisting this since this thread started.. but all this new talks made me hungry...
put tomtom down for 1x Brass one! :sulk: :rolmao:
I just sent New Year's greetings to Keith and of course ask about cases....I will let you know if it looks promising.
Alright fellows. Please note I am adding the new requests but there is not certainty that this will happen anytime soon.
I cannot edit the post above with the tally so I begin anew here:
Also this is the tally list I have so far....please check to both make sure you are on the list and that the number and materials are correct. I will keep editing this post as the thread grows.
Also this is an interest list only....you are not hidebound to purchase until it looks like this may happen, so adding your name will only give me some sort of idea for Keith
Andylaser-------3A
stuarty---------2B
MarkG----------1B
shackleton------1A
ranger----------1B
crofter----------1B
jon-------------1B ,1A
wayne----------1B,1A
alick------------1B,1A
Dougie----------1A
Bushwacker Bob--1A
leon-1-----------1B,2A
boaty------------1B
Danzo------------2B
Doc--------------1A
NickBristol--------1A
gurushaun--------1B,1A
Quarterstaff------2B
grumit------------1B, 1A
maximus otter-----2B
Hjaltlander--------2B
Great Pebble------1B
nevetsjc80--------1B
Brian--------------1B
familne------------2B
magikelly----------2B
spiritofold---------1B
Neil1--------------1B
Huon--------------1B, 1A
TomTom-----------1B
ChrisKavanaugh-----3B
shinobi-------------1B, 1A
sargey-------------2B, 2A
sandbender--------2B
Hellz---------------1A
lou1661------------1B, 1A
faca---------------1B, 1A
Danceswithhelicopters--1B, 1A
Total-------------42B,23A
ChrisKavanaugh
06-01-2005, 21:22
Randy, I haven't had my Grande Americano with 6 packets of Starbucks Honey with bagel with creme cheese and a hug and kiss from Tatiana the Russian manager. So forgive me. 3 brass units when it happens. Chris :?:
Best get on down to the store, I am sure Tatiana is missing you.
3B for you.
Last Summer Keith delivered 69 cases to me in a huge box for some of my forum friends. He is still dealing with poor quality compasses from Brunton. Last shipment of 105 compasses.....103 were returned to Brunton. Not a good sign. I have asked Keith to make the case without compass, but he likes the design and if the compass makers would consider these small button compasses like they do their larger versions....instruments not zipper fobs then all would be good. Early Silva compasses for these matchcases used a jeweled bearing....current production does not.
Hopefully Keith will have better luck with Brunton/Silva/Nexus/Suunto/whoever this year.
One brass and one ally for me please :biggthump
cheers,
Martin
it's a real shame that these superb handcrafted matchsafes aren't more widely available.
my wife hates the alumininum one that i wear as a pendant :o): it holds the miniest of mini kits. :biggthump
just in case it does go ahead, can you put me down for 2A and 2B please schwert. :You_Rock_
cheers, and.
Randy thanks for sticking with it, it is greatly appreciated :You_Rock_
ANDYLASER
07-01-2005, 03:10
Thanks for the update Randy. We are keeping our fingers crossed.
sandbender
07-01-2005, 06:52
adding the new requests
Put me down for two brass cases please!
Thanks in advance...
I was resisting, but seeing as this thread has resurfaced please register my interest for 1 x Aluminium case please... :wink:
Thank you... Do I need PM anything to anyone?
Hellz
Im so weak put me down for one of each if thats possible many thanks.
louis
Hi. Thats for me:
1 brass
1 black aluminium
Thanks
Alright folks, it looks like the list on page 5 is up-to-date.
I did not hear from Keith overnight, but hopefully will over the weekend. If not I think I will call him next week and chew-the-fat.
Thanks again for the interest and let's all hope that Keith can do up some more cases soon.
Danceswithhelicopters
18-01-2005, 21:18
If I'm not too late a black and a brass one puhlees.
If I'm not too late a black and a brass one puhlees.
I am keeping an eye on the list for Schwert and have updated it to reflect your interest. :o):
I just heard from Keith today. His computer needed to be replaced and all the heartache that goes with that resulted in a complete loss of email addresses.
However, he has a line on compasses from Suunto so keep your fingers crossed. I think things are looking up.
Also thanks for keeping the list current Leon.
Thanks Randy, good to hear Keith has a line on compasses, unfortunate about Keiths computer, as they say "in a world of such freedom who needs Windows and Gates" :o):
sandbender
21-01-2005, 10:06
Many thanks for pursuing this for us Leon & Schwert...
Do you think Keith would consider producing a plain brass match case without a compass?
could you put me down for a black anodized aluminium one please
Paganwolf
21-01-2005, 10:44
ill have a black one please :biggthump
could you put me down for 2 brass please if i,m not too late lads,cheers.
Christ, can I show interest I did not realise this thread was still active when I joined the forum; I have been kicking myself thinking I had missed out.
I would like one of each if you can sort it out
2blackcat
22-01-2005, 18:30
I would like to show my interest.
One black ali, please
Steve
Again thanks Leon for keeping the count active.
And again, no one has missed out, as Keith still has not received the new compasses.
When I first started keeping count, I was thinking that Keith may only be able to make a small number of cases and so first come first served was the intent, but if his new (old) supplier delivers high quality compasses this may mean we have a large number of cases rather than a restricted number.
Keith is not exactly right on top of emails, so unfortunately I do not have any new information, but I expect him to contact me when he receives the shipment of compasses. If these check out I will ask Leon how we should go about doing a sales post that both addresses the interest and is mindful of the rules here.
As for the cases without compass, I asked Keith about this a year or more ago. He really did not want to do one. I may still be able to convince him, but he invented this design many years ago, and he likes it, so I am not going to press him on it.
I currently have a tally of 46B 26A. A very good showing I must say.
MagiKelly
24-01-2005, 21:29
Time has made me more keen so can you make me one of each. I am down for one already so it is only one additional.
John,
I had you down for 2 Brass. So maybe it is a good time to ask that folks review the list on page 6 and see if that still reflects your interest.
I really do not think anyone will only want one.... :o):
Also if Keith gets these new compasses total costs for the case will probably go up a bit. The new compasses are jeweled like the old days. Prices are not yet determined, so again, no risk expressing interest. There really is only risk in not expressing interest. Once Keith is ready and I have all the details I will make every effort to get the word out.
If Keith hits the Mother-Lode of compasses I would recommend you pick up at least a pair of cases and either gift or sell one if you can bear to. I have given some away, but it pains me every time. :shock:
Several people who bought one last year have told me they wish they would have bought one of each. The brass ones are classics, the aluminum easy on the pocket and retain their shine over time.
MagiKelly
25-01-2005, 12:03
I had you down for 2 Brass. So maybe it is a good time to ask that folks review the list on page 6 and see if that still reflects your interest.
Better make that 2 brass and 1 black ally one. (sorry Leon :-) )
Buckshot
25-01-2005, 13:46
Can I add my name to the list please?
One black ali for me
Thanks
Mark
Better make that 2 brass and 1 black ally one. (sorry Leon :-) )
No problems John, the list is up to date with Buckshot down :o):
Buckshot
25-01-2005, 17:02
Thankyou :biggthump
Hi, I am a new member (been lurking for a while). If you can, please put my name down for one of each. Thanks to all for a great forum!
Dimitris
Keith_Beef
26-01-2005, 10:13
How much do these match cases weigh, and what are the dimensions?
I'm making a copper match case, maybe with a compass on the top, and I wonder about the capacity and weight...
It's 35mm diameter, 75mm long. I've not weighed it yet.
Keith.
Buckshot
26-01-2005, 10:35
Details are on the dirst page of this thread :biggthump
Keith_Beef
26-01-2005, 10:42
Details are on the dirst page of this thread :biggthump
Weight is mentioned (76g for brass), but not diameter, length or capacity...
Mine isn't going to look half as fancy as that first picture!
I just need to find myself some strike-anywhere matches, now.
"Cook's matches" in the UK look good; my parents get these from the supermarket in big boxes, but in France, I don't know what I'll be able to find.
Keith.
Keith Lunders K&M cases are (measured with a plastic school ruler so...):
20mm OD
85mm long for the main body (not including the bottom cord holder, but including the plug)
97mm total length
16mm for the plug outside part
26mm total for the plug
71mm for the body of the case OD
17mm compass OD
58mm for a current production Diamond Strike-Anywhere match
Matchcase holds ~25 (+/- 1) matches (alternating head up/head down) plus a couple sewing needles.
hiya i hope its not to much trouble can you put me down for one brass one aluminium and one black aluminium cheers
lou,
Right now there are only 2 choices...brass and black anodized aluminum.
We have you in for one of each. Do you now want 1 brass and 2 aluminum?
I may be able to get some powdercoated Orange
ones. Any interest?
http://img135.exs.cx/img135/4427/kmorange4xx.jpg
I may be able to get some powdercoated Orange
yes!
cheers, and.
I may be able to get some powdercoated Orange ones. Any interest?
yes!
cheers, and.
Great, for right now I will just make a note by those names who may be interested in Orange and when Keith gets back to me I will find out what sort of number he may have.
Keith did Orange several years ago, but I am guessing because they are Powdercoated (painted) that the finish is not as durable as anodization, so he may have had complaints or returns or it may have just been difficult to do...regardless, these are not standard items and will be more difficult to get. He told me last year he had a box of them, so for right now I will just keep track of those interested and see what I can do.
Yup, put me down for an orange one as well. Please. :biggthump
Cheers,
Martin
Keith_Beef
27-01-2005, 09:48
Keith Lunders K&M cases are (measured with a plastic school ruler so...):
20mm OD
85mm long for the main body (not including the bottom cord holder, but including the plug)
97mm total length
16mm for the plug outside part
26mm total for the plug
71mm for the body of the case OD
17mm compass OD
58mm for a current production Diamond Strike-Anywhere match
Matchcase holds ~25 (+/- 1) matches (alternating head up/head down) plus a couple sewing needles.
Thanks, Schwert.
I made mine last night. If I can borrow a digital camera, there'll be some pics later today or maybe Friday night.
It's quite a bit heavier than the K&M.
Made of copper,
Outside diameter around 35mm, screw cap at either end reveals a hole of 25mm, chamber inside diameter is 32mm.
Overall length, including square nubs on the caps, around 75mm.
To keep the cold metal away from skin, and to provide a handy way of hanging it round my neck, the outside is wrapped with soft cord.
Unwrapped weight is 120g, cord adds another 20g.
No compass on it yet, though I have one that slips onto a watch strap.
Keith.
SquirrelBoy
27-01-2005, 11:59
Hi Schwert, can I show my interest for:
1x Brass
1x Black Aluminum
Thank you :biggthump
The list is upto date to this point :o):
Great news from Keith Lunders:
Finally! When we didn't have sample compasses by last Thursday I called Suunto again to learn that the shipping department hadn't sent them but they would go out that day. We got them Monday and they are beautiful! They have about 1800 of last year's model in stock, which has a green face. The 2005 model is identical except with a blue face. Neither features glow in the dark capability but I doubt if very many people need that anyway. Both samples are jeweled and liquid dampened.
The nicest thing is that they are identical in size to the units we got from JWA several years, ago until they told us Suunto had discontinued them. Why didn't I check a long time ago and save all this frustration?
I plan to try to negotiate a package deal for all of last year's model so will let you know when we know but it's definitely a go regardless, it will just be a matter of price. I also need to get brass and aluminum quotes since all metal prices have gone up quite a bit this last year.
I guess it would be interesting to go ahead with the link at this time, just to see what happens. I've got about two week's worth of shop work ahead of me and then it's Katey bar the door, full speed ahead on MC's.
Tell me what you think, this internet marketing is new to me.
God bless, Keith
So Keith is working out a deal on the compasses and will be buying metal. Final details of pricing etc will be coming as soon as I know, but at least the compass hurdle has been jumped.
These compasses cost more than the Brunton's he previously used, but I know they are worth it, and with 1800 available we are in fat city.
More details later.
Thanks again,
Randy
Keith Beef,
I hope you can find a camera. That case sounds like a nice one. I saw on that someone made that was about that size. They used garden hose end-caps on both ends of a piece of brass or copper pipe. Bigger than the K&M's but it held a lot of matches.
Schwert.
Where did you get that metal case far right of your pic? Looks a nice bit of kit.
Wayne,
That Stainless Steel Pill Fob was a gift, but if you Google up "pill fob" tons show up. This place has all sorts:
http://www.medids.com/PILL_PAL.html
I have seen these in travel stores and chemist shops, but the internet supply stores seem to have just a ton of variations.
I have 2 sizes of these...one 13mm x 60mm that holds a stack of asprin, and the larger diameter one in the picture beside the orange case which is 21mm x 48mm which can hold all kinds of small stuff...mine has some other pain relievers and prescription medications.
Wayne,
That Stainless Steel Pill Fob was a gift, but if you Google up "pill fob" tons show up. This place has all sorts:
http://www.medids.com/PILL_PAL.html
I have seen these in travel stores and chemist shops, but the internet supply stores seem to have just a ton of variations.
I have 2 sizes of these...one 13mm x 60mm that holds a stack of asprin, and the larger diameter one in the picture beside the orange case which is 21mm x 48mm which can hold all kinds of small stuff...mine has some other pain relievers and prescription medications.
Thanks for the info :super:
Hey Schwert
Mebbe comin' in a bit late on this one but may I order one of the brass matchcases?? :shock:
Hey Schwert
Mebbe comin' in a bit late on this one but may I order one of the brass matchcases?? :shock:
Dave the full list has not yet gone in or been totally confirmed as yet, I'll update the list with you and a brass case :-)
Dave the full list has not yet gone in or been totally confirmed as yet, I'll update the list with you and a brass case :-)
Thank you my good man. Thou art an officer and a jellyfish !! :o):
Thank you my good man. Thou art an officer and a jellyfish !! :o):
:rolmao: No better description of an officer have I ever heard :rolmao: :rolmao: :biggthump
I stopped by the post office yesterday. We have a special Global Priority mailer that is a flat $5 for whatever you can reasonably get into the envelop up to 4 pounds. These usually arrive in about a week.
I can reasonably (with padding) get 4 matchcases into one of these mailers.
I am not one that believes in enormous shipping and handling charges, so I am almost positive that this will mean that your shipping costs will be $5 for up to 4 cases in any mixture you prefer, brass or aluminum. Over 4 cases we would need to go to the $9 mailer.
I again want to thank all of you for your incredible patience and for Leon-1's assistance.
If all goes well with Keith, we will be moving over to the Classified Section in a couple of weeks to finish this long journey.
In the mean time please continue to express your interests here until we are completely set to go.
Thanks Randy for Keeping us so well informed and keeping an eye open for a good deal for us :biggthump
Keith_Beef
29-01-2005, 17:52
Keith Beef,
I hope you can find a camera. That case sounds like a nice one. I saw on that someone made that was about that size. They used garden hose end-caps on both ends of a piece of brass or copper pipe. Bigger than the K&M's but it held a lot of matches.
I had hoped to borrow a decent camera; my camcorder, though it takes good pictures, doesn't work well in low light. But I dug out my daylight simulation bulb, and got a few pictures today, before and after a bit of re-working.
Click on a thumbnail to see a bigger picture.
View from above, wrapped in the soft satin cord (curtain tie-back type stuff).
http://klrhodes.club.fr/images/MatchCase/dsc00250_thumb.jpg
(http://klrhodes.club.fr/images/MatchCase/dsc00250_small.jpg)
View with the cap opened. There are thirty matches in there. Only safety matches, because I've not found any strike-anywhere matches yet...
http://klrhodes.club.fr/images/MatchCase/dsc00252_thumb.jpg
(http://klrhodes.club.fr/images/MatchCase/dsc00252_small.jpg)
There's enough room to put that little A.G.Russel "Ultimate Pen-knife" (VG10 blade, titanium scales) in there, for making fuzz-sticks.
http://klrhodes.club.fr/images/MatchCase/dsc00253_thumb.jpg
(http://klrhodes.club.fr/images/MatchCase/dsc00253_small.jpg)
And here it is; since I took off the cord, and put a leather cover on it. The two loops are so I can attach a neck cord (that satin cord, using sheet-bends).
http://klrhodes.club.fr/images/MatchCase/dsc00254_thumb.jpg
(http://klrhodes.club.fr/images/MatchCase/dsc00254_small.jpg)
It took me about ten minutes to make the case, then maybe another twenty to make the leather cover.
It's a piece of 32mm copper pipe, threaded at each end. I think it's intended as a joining piece. I glued a 32mm drain at each end, using Araldite.
It could probably hold about 90 matches, or 30 plus the little knife and a bit of tinder or a small candle. Or I could just about fit a trimmed down Swedish firesteel in there, plus tinder and knife.
It's more of a firekit case than a match case.
Keith.
Keith,
Very nice. I have not seen those endcap fittings before. Those are especially nice and the leather cover really sets this off. That would make a nice neck kit for sure. Thanks for the images.
how long before they start being made schwert :wave:
Keith_Beef
31-01-2005, 20:03
Keith,
Very nice. I have not seen those endcap fittings before. Those are especially nice and the leather cover really sets this off. That would make a nice neck kit for sure. Thanks for the images.
They're standard household plumbing fittings, here in France.
I've not tested the case for being waterproof... plumbing should be watertight :rolleyes: but if need be, I'm sure I can find rubber O-rings for these in the DIY supermarket.
Keith.
Keith, Those are much nice (thinner) plumbing fittings than I have ever seen over here. Makes for a much more compact case than I think I could make with our fittings.
Grummit....about 2 weeks or so to begin production. I am going to wait until I am absolutely certain Keith is making cases before setting up the transfer details though....so stand by.
ANDYLASER
05-02-2005, 01:35
WooHoo, excellent news. Thanks for the update Schwert. :biggthump
I just heard from Keith. He is still awaiting approval compasses from Suunto which he expects anytime soon. He is now thinking he may have some cases in 2-3 weeks or so for final approval etc.
So let's keep our fingers crossed for about 4 weeks from now.
Good news Schwert! :biggthump
If they become available I'd like an orange powdercoat in addition to the 1 black and 1 brass I'm already signed up for - thanks
Alick
Could you put me down for a orange one if available as well. So thats one of each style for me. :super:
Keith still has not confirmed the Orange cases, but I have noted your interests in my local spreadsheet, and Leon will likely edit the last list when he stops by.
I have a handful of these and for some reason even I am now getting excited about more... :?:
Hopefully within the next couple of weeks I will have specifics.
schwert.
Please put me down for one in brass.
Thanks
Lee
gryphon50
03-03-2005, 02:00
I'd like 2 of each.
Thanks,
Steve
Gryphon is that 2 brass, 2 aluminum, and 2 orange?
gryphon50
06-03-2005, 00:20
Yes, sorry. 6 total.
Thanks,
Steve
donkeyporge
18-04-2005, 09:42
Please put me down for 2 Black Aluminium please
jamesraykenney
18-04-2005, 10:35
Are these made in the UK or the USA? Or other???
I am in the US and am wondering if there is any way to get some? And what the price would be(shipping and paypal included...)
If the price is not TOO much, I would want:
1 Black Al.
1 Brass
1 Orange
By the way, unless power coat means something different in the UK, it is MUCH better than paint!
John Seddon
18-04-2005, 11:26
Please can you put me down for 2 black aluminium match cases. Thanks
Are these made in the UK or the USA? Or other???
I am in the US and am wondering if there is any way to get some? And what the price would be(shipping and paypal included...)
If the price is not TOO much, I would want:
1 Black Al.
1 Brass
1 Orange
By the way, unless power coat means something different in the UK, it is MUCH better than paint!
Hi, they are handmade in the US :)
Thanks Leon for keeping the list up and for BCUK coming back on-line.
I have had word from Keith over the last several weeks and we are actually getting very close to the finalizing orders bit.
I am estimating that around June 1 we will start the whole process. Keith may actually have some cases before then, but I have a holiday scheduled in May.
Keith has received some excellent jeweled Suunto compasses and was working on some preproduction pieces for me to photograph.
I have a complete list of your requests and you....the most patient.....are first on my list for delivery.
I now have about 23 requests for orange and no idea how many cases Keith may actually have....so I have kept a list of prioritized requests.
Keith lives in Elk River Idaho, a small town in Central Idaho. All shipping will be direct from Elk River.
Thanks again,
Randy
My samples from Keith just arrived.
The new Suunto compass is quite nice. I will be taking pictures of these this weekend for posting and will confirm with Keith that we are ready to go.
Keith sent me the
Traditional Brass
Black Anodized Aluminium
Orange Powdercoated Aluminium
AND
Bright Yellow Powdercoated Aluminium
Pictures and more info to follow.
Thanks for keeping this going Schwert and thanks to Keith too :D
ANDYLASER
19-04-2005, 17:34
Excellent news. Thanks Schwert.
Here is a preliminary shot of the 4 cases from Keith.
http://img247.echo.cx/img247/3410/km35886jg.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
The yellow and orange are powdercoated and would be hard to lose in the woods, the black is anodized, and the brass is nicely traditional but 3 times heavier.
The Suunto compass is jeweled, liquid filled, and quickly settles.
Note the double O-ring seal on the plug which is held in place by twisting the plug and tensioning the cords around the case body.
Keith supplies a compass cover, spare O-rings and cord, and a nice set of instructions.
Schwert,
I'm now drooling, they look great, thanks for keeping us informed.
Brian
quarterstaff
19-04-2005, 20:55
:) Like the yellow,very eye catching.Nice work.
they look fantastic cant wait now :)
quarterstaff
20-04-2005, 17:50
In view of my earler post could in change me order to 1 brass and 1 yella.
cheers
I got a bit of time this weekend to shoot some outside shots of the 4 cases from Keith....nicer colors with natural light.
http://img40.echo.cx/img40/5561/kmquad36190my.jpg
http://img61.echo.cx/img61/4743/kmquad36920sh.jpg
I tried to get a good shot of the double O-ring seal on the plug and the slightly roughened inside surface that serves as a striker for our strike-anywhere type matches.
And note the properly closed and secured cases with the cords twisted and tensioned around the case body.
I think we will be ready to begin sales in June. I am on holiday in May so when I return we will move down to the classifieds and give this all a go.
Is there any update regarding the price? I looked throught the entire thread but only found the original estimated price in dollars.
could I get a yellow and orange one too.
Thanks Tons! To all..
Lee
could I get a yellow and orange one too.
Thanks Tons! To all..
Lee
Lee is that inclusive of the Brass one that you are down for, if so PM me and I will update the list :D
schwert this might seem like a slightly obscure but do you think you could see if the abracive(sp) surface on the out side is abracive(sp??) enough to ligth swan vistas? the case i have at the moment cant! :rolleyes:
EDIT: thats if you have them over there?
Tom,
I have a packet of Swan Vestas that I picked up in Sweden....these are strike on the box type matches. They cannot be lit on the case. These may not be the same matches you have in the UK. Strike on the box matches are designed to use two chemical components....one on the striker strip on the box and one in the match head...both are required to ignite the match.
I think you will have to cut the striker panel off the box and slip it into the case...chemical side to the metal of the case unless you can buy strike-anywhere matches.
Strike anywhere matches are not sold in some of our states, cannot be shipped by mail or carried by aircraft. Fortunately they are easy to get here in Washington state. Canada has a brand called RedBird that are similar but I do not know about the UK.
I hope this helps...
the large uk type strike anywhere matches are not avalible over here... the swan matches we have here are not the sort which have to be struck on the box.. their boxed only have a bit of sand paper down the side.. the matches we have here called swan vistas can be struck on a rock or the like.. but it needs to be a fairly rough surface.
Tom,
That is good. The inside of the case plug is slightly roughened to provide a dry rough surface to strike our matches...it may work for you but I cannot confirm as I have never used those Swan's.
The exterior of the case where it is smooth cannot light our matches but the knurling can...the knurling is a bit aggressive and can break off the matchhead sometimes depending on how you support the head, and I have found the brass case knurling is better than the anodized aluminium (which is smoother). The Powder coated cases are very smooth as the paint has really filled all the metal voids and edges so the knurling will not work for me.
If your matches require a very aggressive surface then you can run the stopper across a very coarse sand paper to groove it more.
You will all want to evaluate the depth of the case and your matches...you definately want the matches shorter than the case....especially as you are turning the plug over the heads. You can carry them all head down, but more matches fit with half up half down and if short enough and not packed too tight to prevent movement of the sticks you will be fine....just confirm the stick length before use and trim is needed. I always shake the matches down, visually confirm they are in place then replace the plug.....not pointing it at my face too!
I am nearly 100% certain we will be set to go on this in June. If I was not on holiday in May then we could begin earlier, but June is looking very good.
I ran the request for final pricing by Leon before posting.....I love talking about these cases, but selling is outside this forums rules.
Matchcases will sell for $19 each in any of the 4 finishes. Powdercoated case numbers may be limited.
The new jeweled Suunto compasses added a few dollars to the cases this time around, but in my view, are well worth it. These are just like my earlier ones.
Postage will be dependent on the number you order but we will try and use flat rate mailers whenever possible. These are available in $5 or $9 depending on size. 3-4 cases should fit fine in a $5 mailer. 4-8 should fit a $9 mailer.
All other details of the ordering process will be provided later when we move to the classified forum.
Well folks I just got off the phone with Keith Lunders...my ear is a bit sore :D but all good news. Calling Keith always makes my day, this fellow can talk.
I have done a test run of our matchcase delivery system and I think all is looking good.
Keith has a job lined up in Montana for the summer which means he will be back and forth for around 10 days at a time, but he is ready with cases, compasses and international mailers.
I am going to ask Leon to move this thread down to the members classified forum....where I will add more details tomorrow.
I would like two please, 1 yellow and one black.
All thanks for perseverence on this thread should go to Schwert, he is the guy that has kept this alive. Cheers Randy :You_Rock_
Right then, this is where we are up to for the minute, Sandbender, I'll PM Schwert and ask about the case without compass before I add it to the list
Also this is an interest list only....you are not hidebound to purchase until it looks like this may happen, so adding your name will only give Schwert some sort of idea for Keith
Andylaser-------3A
stuarty---------2B
MarkG----------1B
shackleton------1A
ranger----------1B
crofter----------1B
jon-------------1B ,1A
wayne----------1B,1A
alick------------1B,1A
Dougie----------1A
Bushwacker Bob--1A
leon-1-----------3B,3A
boaty------------1B
Danzo------------2B
Doc--------------1A
NickBristol--------1A
gurushaun--------1B,1A
Quarterstaff------2B
grumit------------1B, 1A
maximus otter-----2B
Hjaltlander--------2B
Great Pebble------1B
nevetsjc80--------1B
Brian--------------1B
familne------------2B
magikelly----------2B, 1A
spiritofold---------1B
Neil1--------------1B
Huon--------------1B, 1A
TomTom-----------1B
ChrisKavanaugh-----3B
shinobi-------------1B, 1A
sargey-------------1B, 2A
sandbender--------2B
Hellz---------------1A
lou1661------------2B, 2A
faca---------------1B, 1A
Danceswithhelicopters--1B, 1A
Stuart--------------1A
Pagan Wolf---------1A
gill------------------2B
Adi Fiddler----------1B, 1A
2blackcat-----------1A
Buckshot-----------1A
dsgr---------------1B, 1A
Squirrelboy---------1B, 1A
maddave-----------1B
leemann------------1B
gryphon50----------2B,2A
donkeyporge-------2A
jamesraykenny----1B,1A
John Seddon-------2A
BOPLEO------------1A
Total-------------53B,42A
Orange Powdercoat
leon-1--------------1
Sargey-------------1
shinobi--------------1
alick----------------1
Wayne--------------1
gryphon50---------2
jamesraykenny---1
leemann------------1
Total---------------9
Yellow Powdercoat
Qauterstaff--------1
BOPLEO----------1
leemann------------1
leon-1--------------1
Total----------------4
Upto date with BOPLEO
Thanks Leon, we are now ready to commence sales efforts for these matchcases.
First the details:
Case cost $19 each in US funds.
Postage from $5 to $9 depending upon the number ordered.
1) Email me at rlschaffer@gmail.com
2) List the number of cases and colors you want
3) Provide a precise shipping address
4) I will return the email with final price including shipping and ask you to paypal that amount to me at the same email address
5) Once funds are transferred, I will forward your order, address and money to Keith. He will ship direct from Idaho.
6) At this point only PayPal transfers are accepted and credit cards through them are fine.
7) Please Note your screen name so I can keep my list current.
Notes:
I do not do any computer work on the weekends so I will only answer your emails Monday - Friday.
I will be answering most of your emails after 1800 Zulu.
Please do not PayPal any funds until I confirm your email.
Keith will be working in Montana for 10 days at a time or so orders may sit in Idaho for a while depending on his schedule.
I will be on Holiday mid May to June so we will go on hold for that interval (Keith is in Montana too).
If the requests for powdercoated cases exceeds his current backstock he will make more, but there may be some delay.
Thanks once again for all you support and patience.
Randy
MagiKelly
27-04-2005, 20:10
Email sent. And thanks again Randy for all your work on this.
email sent many thanks :)
Email sent, many many thanks for all your work to get this far :D
Thanks so much folks. So far this is going well from my perspective and Keith is excited too.
So far I have requests for almost 60 cases!
Thanks tons Email sent.
Leemann
donkeyporge
29-04-2005, 11:33
Email sent
I can't wait for these :)
Great news - email sent :)
e-mail and paypal sent! :cool:
Thanks a load folks. I have been processing your requests daily to Keith. Hopefully these should start arriving fairly soon.
Once they come in, I would appreciate it if you would let me know of any problems in the process.
2blackcat
04-05-2005, 19:02
E-mail sent
Many thanks
Steve
Pay pal sent can't wait..... :cool:
I am going to HALT this process for a bit as of today.
Keith is working through the initial backlog of orders and will start shipping them this week. He has apparently had difficulty reading my order documents so no cases have yet shipped. I just sent him a different format and will await his call to see if he can read that.
If you are still in the process with payment etc please continue, I just am going to stop all new orders until I return.
Sorry for the delay, but we will try and clear the outstanding orders through this week and next.
It also looks like orange and yellow cases may be all gone.
So we will shoot for a resumption of sales starting June 1.
Thanks
Randy
thanks for the update.
Do you have a list of orders that will be met?
I have a list of the orders to date.
Wayne you are covered and Keith should ship this week or next.
I am trying to call him now to find out if my last order sheet was readable.
If you contacted me, and payment arrived through paypal then I have you covered.
I currently have 37 orders with 7 in the incomplete stage (not yet paid).
I just got off the phone with Keith. He was able to read my last format and cases will start shipping today, tomorrow and the beginning of next week.
He has enough orange and yellow to supply the first requests and may have a few more later, but I will have an exact tally in June.
So, sorry for the bit of panic there on my part, I really had no idea my emails order lists were not readable until today.
We will clear up all outstanding orders through the coming week (including those currently in the process) and then resume orders June 1.
Thanks for your patience.
Randy
I am just about off on holiday to return May 30 when I will resume order taking.
All orders have been sent to Keith except for one which is as yet unpaid.
If you have not received any begging emails from me, or a paypal request for money then you can be certain that your order is in Keith's hands.
I just mailed a check to Keith along with a printed copy of the orders.....95 total cases so far.
See you all in a couple of weeks, and thanks.
Randy
2blackcat
12-05-2005, 04:22
Many thanks for your time and effort in this
Enjoy your break
Steve
Bardster
12-05-2005, 14:02
I am just about off on holiday to return May 30 when I will resume order taking.
All orders have been sent to Keith except for one which is as yet unpaid.
If you have not received any begging emails from me, or a paypal request for money then you can be certain that your order is in Keith's hands.
I just mailed a check to Keith along with a printed copy of the orders.....95 total cases so far.
See you all in a couple of weeks, and thanks.
Randy
Is it too late to order one of these? brass by preference
Bardster
12-05-2005, 14:06
Is it too late to order one of these? brass by preference
whoops sorry - should have read back further.... enjoy your trip and will email you in june :)
have a nice holiday Schwert! :cool:
MagiKelly
16-05-2005, 18:20
Mine arrived today. 2 Brass and two black ally. Might be a while till I can play with them fully but they are certainly well made. The brass are much heavier but definately my preferred option.
Mine arrived today and are TOP NOTCH! the fit finish and quality they are worth it. 1 brass 2 powdercoat orange, yellow. Thanks Keith and schwert.
Lee :cool:
I've just realised I ordered two brass whilst I was in New Zealand last year and I don't think I've paid anyone! I am on the original list on about page 3 of this thread.
:rolleyes:
Am I the outstanding payment?
Danzo
MagiKelly
17-05-2005, 13:04
I've just realised I ordered two brass whilst I was in New Zealand last year and I don't think I've paid anyone! I am on the original list on about page 3 of this thread.
:rolleyes:
Am I the outstanding payment?
Danzo
Danzo
The list was only to show interest. You need to PM or email Schwert your order. He will then tell you how much it is including postage and then you are an outstanding payment, well at least untill you pay.
Danzo
The list was only to show interest. You need to PM or email Schwert your order. He will then tell you how much it is including postage and then you are an outstanding payment, well at least untill you pay.
John is quite correct, if you are still interested e-mail Schwert at this address (rlschaffer@gmail.com)
got mine today.. im highly impressed with the workman ship.. it looks like its going to do everything you could possibly want it to.. the compass points north and you CAN strike a swan match on the outside of it! great work thanks Keith Randy and Leon! :cool: :D
Yep received mine this morning also and can only agree with tomtom on the quality of build and workmanship.
Many thanks to ANDYLASER who started this thread in the first place, to Schwert for working as an intermediary for us all and Keith for doing a fine job on the cases, top blokes the 3 of them :)
Yep received mine this morning also and can only agree with tomtom on the quality of build and workmanship.
Many thanks to ANDYLASER who started this thread in the first place, to Schwert for working as an intermediary for us all and Keith for doing a fine job on the cases, top blokes the 3 of them :)
i have to agree with you got mine today when i came in from work they are top quality thanks to everyone who made it happen
Mine arrived today. :D
Many thanks to Andylazer, Schwert and Keith great workmanship, great organisation.
If you haven't placed an order you should top quality kit :D :D
I was getting all jealous that everyone elses were arriving and mine had not, things changed with the post this morning and i finally got my sticky mitts on them :D :D :D now to go and light something.
ps many thanks to all involved in sorting this thread
I just received mine (brass & alu), and I'm very impressed! They are fantastic, and the packaging with rubber cap, spares and instructions shows Keith's pride & workmanship. Many thanks to BCUK, Keith and Schwert for making these available!
Dimitris
Must agree that these really are great, either the traditional brass:
http://boaty.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/traditional.jpg
or tactical black :cool: :D
http://boaty.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tactical.jpg
Great pics Boaty!
Still waiting for mine but they look really good :D
Sort of wish I'd got a brass one too, but can't really justify it ;)
Can't wait
Hellz
bushwacker bob
31-05-2005, 18:36
Mine arrived today! brilliant piece of kit.Thanks Schwert :D
bushwacker bob
31-05-2005, 18:39
Mine arrived today! brilliant piece of kit.Thanks Schwert, kieth and andy:D
Still waiting with anticipation........
I am glad they are arriving and that you are generally quite pleased. I think Keith does an exceptional job on these.
I am back and will now continue taking orders for anyone interested.
I need to call Keith and ask about orange and yellow, as I think we are close to the end on those....order what you want but please list an alternative case if you are requesting orange or yellow.
Thanks again,
Randy
rlschaffer@gmail.com
2 brass for me as well please could you please send a total price for delivery cheers mate
Bardster
31-05-2005, 22:43
I should like 1 brass and 1 black please
bothyman
31-05-2005, 23:01
I would like 1 Brass and 1 Orange if there are any left Please
Things are getting a bit long here, but Post 165 on (my) page 17 lists the details of ordering.
I am checking the gmail address 2x per day to keep up with the requests. Please list your order requests at
rlschaffer@gmail.com
to make the ordering a bit easier and more direct. I will note the orders posted here but would still appreciate a request through the gmail address.
Thanks
Randy
Hiya,
Just to let you know that my order turned up this morning. That includes mine, paganwolfs and Squirrelboys. But they haven't seen them yet and i might keep them and tell them that they were lost in the post. :D Joke!!
They are mighty fine pieces of kit and I will recommend them to everyone. All I need is some strike anywhere matches and I'm sorted !!!
Cheers,
Martin
WOOHOOOO....... Mine got here today.
Every bit as good as I hoped they would be and a little bit more..
Superb
Mine arrived yesterday, the quality of worknahip is impressive :D
Many thanks to everyone who made it happen, your all stars :cool:
Now all I need, like shinobi, is some decent strike anywhere matches. Swan vestas will be too small. Anyone got any suggestions? I know I used to have extra long strike anywhere matches for lighting candles, but does anyone know of a decent source?
Hellz
2blackcat
01-06-2005, 17:54
Mine arrived yesterday as well
Yep, swan vestas are too small but I've padded out top and bottom with cotton wool.
They do strike on the lid base though
Great workmanship. Many thanks
quarterstaff
01-06-2005, 19:03
Got mine today and they are out standing,had to get the camers out
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/quarterstaff/DCP_1021.jpg
trad
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/quarterstaff/DCP_1017.jpg
and yella
thanks to all that made this happen fantastic bits of kit
cheers
Nice pairings Quarterstaff. The yellow works with those more subdued yellow scales and the brass is great with the traditional bushcraft equipment. The brass will mellow in time too.
Keith has 10 orange and 50 yellow cases left. Right now all those who have requested powdercoated cases are in fat city. First come first served on the remainder of these though.
Keith asked how the shipment were going and I told him so far all looks great. Any issues or problems please let me know. Did Royal Customs and Excise have any "requests"?
Keith just returned from Montana and will probably go back in a week or two. So cases requested this week are sure to ship but by the end of next week there may be a delay of about 10 days from order to ship depending on the job in Montana.
Thanks very much to all of you who have assisted me with this process.
Randy
bothyman
01-06-2005, 21:39
Thats great Randy, so I get my 1 Orange and 1 Brass really looking forward to getting them.
Many Thanks
MickT
Mick,
You are set. I am keeping a running countdown for the powdercoated cases.
Right now all orders placed are getting their first choices.
Keith is inquiring with his anodizer to see what sort of bright colors we could get in the future. I have a red anodized case he made long ago but it is no where near the same intensity as the painted cases. I also have a bare aluminum which we might discuss too.
Apparently in the past Keith started doing color anodizing on the cases but each batch would turn out slightly different...his main reseller at that time did a batch to batch color comparison and rejected them if they varied much. We are more concerned with watertightness, decent compass function, and finding them after they are laid down in the forest duff....
I am sending along the order list for the past two days to Keith tonight. He should start mailing them this week to weekend.
Deliveries into the UK are working a treat without any "delays" at customs.
Having received examples of brass, black and color I'm hard pressed to choose a favorite. Brass is decidedly the classy choice, orange very nice and bright and black is restrained and looks smarter than I expected. Quality and function are equally good on all. The compasses are clearly good quality.
Thanks Schwert, thanks Keith.
:)
Thanks Schwert, your diligence on this has been fantastic and as Alick said no problems with HM C&E here either. If you do get other colourss running I may well be interested, all the best for you and Keith and many thanks for your hard work on this :)
Quarterstaff
Whats the little compass in the top pic? pretty little thing.
George
quarterstaff
02-06-2005, 18:28
Hi george the compass is a marbles from Bison bushcraft thay retail at around £18.
cheers
Current Inventory of Orange 6, Yellow 41.
Keith did not get the cases mailed last week but will this for those ordered after my holiday return.
Here is the classic Brass Case with all of its parts as supplied by Keith.
http://img130.echo.cx/img130/2682/kmbrass65328ar.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
To clarify. Only the powdercoated (orange and yellow) cases are in limited quantities. Black Anodized Aluminium and Brass are standard and available in unlimited quantities at this time.
Hi, sorry i have some webserver prolem so I have been obligated to put my review here>
http://www.knifeforums.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=679491&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
Thanks all fo you for your patient.
Faca,
Thanks for that review. I had been curious about the TAD capsule, but have never ordered one due to their cost.
I noticed you replaced the original cords around your K&M cases. Note that the original cord, once twisted around the case secures the plug by tension. Your new cord applications are not utilizing this design feature, though the leather and turks head look great on the brass. The plugs are tight and hold well by friction but the twisted cords absolutely secure the plug against it working out. I think this is particularily important if you carry the cases in a pocket where the plug may eventually work loose over time.
I am glad you like the cases.
Schwert I have not though about that but I carry my matchbox hanging from my neck so the gravity makes its work, anyway I'll try to make the way you shows.Thanks
Bardster
15-06-2005, 16:22
Mine arrived today - excellent quality - just as everyone has said :)
thats Faca
your review answered a number of questions I had about the keith matchcase
Thanks for that review. I had been curious about the TAD capsule, but have never ordered one due to their cost.
like faca I have been carrying the tad capsule for while (got a free one for testing) for information/photographs see:
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=2457&highlight=mini+survival
and for the same reasons as faca I think I may well change from the tad capsule to the keith matchcase.
Hi Schwert
E-mail sent :)
Thanks to all who have ordered. The old standing list is far far shorter and I hope folks are using the cases and having fun.
I have only 4 Orange cases left and about 40 yellow.
Brass and Black aluminium are unlimited.
Getting a TAD case for free is a deal Stuart. I will take a look at your link....maybe I still "need" one eh?
Ahh apparently I read that post before and was considering the capsule then....hum still am.
bothyman
15-06-2005, 21:09
Received mine today what can I say "Very nice"
Many Thanks
Randy
Got mine too. Great kit. Very practical and lightweight in Aluminium.
I like the inscription on the base: 'K&M Elk River ID USA'
Bit more evocative than 'Made in China'.
Getting a TAD case for free is a deal Stuart. I will take a look at your link....maybe I still "need" one eh?.
the only real benifit of the TAD case is that it has two seperate compartments, which is useful for keeping things like potassium permanganate seperate from the other items.
mojofilter
16-06-2005, 14:36
My 2 brass arrived today thanks Schwert, and lovely they are! I am considering cutting one of them down to be a better fit for our poxy UK matches. :eek:
My 2 brass arrived today thanks Schwert, and lovely they are! I am considering cutting one of them down to be a better fit for our poxy UK matches. :eek:
Noooo fill the extra space with tinder!
I agree, if you did a tinder tab compression like Stuart did for his TAD case, and made sure you had adequate clearance, then the extra room could be a real bonus.
Schwert, got mine and I have to say that I'm very impressed. Thank you for keeping this going and getting it all sorted out for us. Now all I need to do is find some strike anywhere matches.
Brian
This thread is just growing and growing. I am glad folks are liking the cases....ordering information is contained in post #165 on page 17 for me. Page 16 has some images.
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=2416&page=17&pp=10
I only have one orange case left 37 yellow.
Schwert, If you require I can move or copy that post further or to the end of the current thread :)
Putting a copy out here at the end may be good. I have sent the page 17 link out to some folks (and use it as my tag line) so it would be nice if that one could stay there for now.
I think that the original list of interested parties has essentially been cleared. We seem to be into new and repeat sales. Bagheera (Piet) is going to be taking over the European Marketing Position :D soon. When that happens I think we will open up a brand new thread so I would not go to any trouble at all with this one.
It has been a real pleasure both assisting Keith and getting the cases and nice feedback from the Bushcrafters.
I know Keith is quite happy getting back into production and we have been kicking around some minor ideas.
I appreciate all the fine folks here who stuck with this long journey.
raskusdrotti
21-06-2005, 22:34
Hi Schwert,
Thanks for replying to my pm!
Are you going to be doing a new order for other colours? I really like the look of those brass ones :D
Although i must be going blind cos i can't find any pictures of the other ones!
Neil
http://img40.echo.cx/img40/5561/kmquad36190my.jpg
http://img61.echo.cx/img61/4743/kmquad36920sh.jpg
Here are the two pictures from page 16.
These are:
Brass, Black anodized aluminium, orange powdercoated aluminium, and yellow powdercoated aluminium.
Keith is not going to offer any powdercoated cases after these are gone. Sometime (maybe) in the future he will do other colors of anodizing....but has no definate plans at this point.
The brass case weighs about 3 times what the aluminum ones do and feels a bit more sturdy. As much as I like the traditional brass, my vest pocket seems to really appreciate the lighter aluminum. I have to confess I bought several orange and yellow for myself...I really like the bright paint. But Keith found it a real pain as it coated the o-ring grooves which had to be handcleaned. Anodizing is a much more durable finish too, but the colors are more muted.
I have had requests to do longer and fatter cases for cigars, olive drab ones, orange anodized, electrojazz anodizing, bare aluminium, magnesium, and probably other things that I cannot remember. Keith has heard all the suggestions and design and manufacturing are in his hands...so I await future developments with an open wallet. :D
These are the details for how to order and the costs copied from Schwert's original.
First the details:
Case cost $19 each in US funds.
Postage from $5 to $9 depending upon the number ordered.
1) Email me at rlschaffer@gmail.com
2) List the number of cases and colors you want
3) Provide a precise shipping address
4) I will return the email with final price including shipping and ask you to paypal that amount to me at the same email address
5) Once funds are transferred, I will forward your order, address and money to Keith. He will ship direct from Idaho.
6) At this point only PayPal transfers are accepted and credit cards through them are fine.
7) Please Note your screen name so I can keep my list current.
Notes:
I do not do any computer work on the weekends so I will only answer your emails Monday - Friday.
I will be answering most of your emails after 1800 Zulu.
Please do not PayPal any funds until I confirm your email.
Keith will be working in Montana for 10 days at a time or so orders may sit in Idaho for a while depending on his schedule.
I will be on Holiday mid May to June so we will go on hold for that interval (Keith is in Montana too).
If the requests for powdercoated cases exceeds his current backstock he will make more, but there may be some delay.
Thanks once again for all you support and patience.
Randy
raskusdrotti
22-06-2005, 07:56
Thanks Guys,
I will speak to 'er indoors to see if she will loosen the purse strings for me!
Neil :D
Neil....sometimes those strings have an amazing knot...take your time...maybe get the keeper of the string a case.
Keith is sold out of Orange cases...
There are still quite a few Yellow and of course black and brass are unlimited.
Classic Brass
http://img130.echo.cx/img130/2682/kmbrass65328ar.jpg
raskusdrotti
22-06-2005, 21:23
Hey Schwert!
That was scarily easy! :confused:
I wonder how much the real cost of a couple of matchcases is gonna be? :eek:
Expect my email soon!
Cheers
Neil
I have just ordered 4!!!
(one is for my bruv STOTRE!, don't tell him!)
I am like a little kid! :D
and can't wait to show SWMBO!!! :eek:
I've just ordered 3, havent told SWMBO just yet, I find its usually easier to order something and then beg forgiveness afterwards.... thats if she see' it arrive, if not it'll be a case of ... had it ages...
Well I do have to look after my health!
raskusdrotti
24-06-2005, 08:04
Must..... not..... keep....... secrets!!!!
Damn...... this....... training....... :eek:
beachlover
24-06-2005, 08:26
I've just ordered 3, havent told SWMBO just yet, I find its usually easier to order something and then beg forgiveness afterwards.... thats if she see' it arrive, if not it'll be a case of ... had it ages...
I just ordered 2 - must not make purchases after drinking home made wine :rolleyes: I also use the "had it ages" excuse, but as a last resort equivalent to "we both know I am lying, you have caught me out, I am sorry, but we know how weak I am," but only when the post arrives on her day off. :(
jamesraykenney
25-06-2005, 00:38
<snip>
These are:
Brass, Black anodized aluminium, orange powdercoated aluminium, and yellow powdercoated aluminium.
Keith is not going to offer any powdercoated cases after these are gone. Sometime (maybe) in the future he will do other colors of anodizing....but has no definate plans at this point.
The brass case weighs about 3 times what the aluminum ones do and feels a bit more sturdy. As much as I like the traditional brass, my vest pocket seems to really appreciate the lighter aluminum. I have to confess I bought several orange and yellow for myself...I really like the bright paint. But Keith found it a real pain as it coated the o-ring grooves which had to be handcleaned. Anodizing is a much more durable finish too, but the colors are more muted.
I have had requests to do longer and fatter cases for cigars, olive drab ones, orange anodized, electrojazz anodizing, bare aluminium, magnesium, and probably other things that I cannot remember. Keith has heard all the suggestions and design and manufacturing are in his hands...so I await future developments with an open wallet. :D
I just got mine, but are these powercoated or painted... The Orange is flaking off in places on mine... Also, the Orange one had only one spare o-ring and no spare cord, but I do not even know if they are a standard feature, just that the other two had a spare cord and two spare o-rings...
I did not realize that the were push fit and not screw down!
I have another one that I bought somewhere that is black and VERY heavy, but has a screw cap with a rotating rubber ring that the cord goes through... I never could figure out why the cord was like it was... Now I know... They copied this type right down to the twist-the-cord cap lock, but changed it to a screw top, which made the twist-the-cord cap lock totally useless!
I really like these and was shocked at how light the non-brass ones were...You can hardly tell you are caring it!
Some people were saying you should carry plastic match safes so that you can step on them to break them open if your hands are too cold, but because these do not have a screw cap, if your hands are too cold to open it, then they will be too cold to even HOLD a match!
My matches are (of course) on average 1mm(!!!!) too long to fit stright in, though you can fit a few in at an angle...
I will have to cut them down a bit.
One suggestion... The other one I have has a little closed cell foam pad at the bottom to keep the heads from rubbing around and so they have a LITTLE give if the top is screwed down too tight...This would be a nice addition, along with making it a LITTLE longer.
Overall, I am VERY pleased though!!!
Great Pebble
27-06-2005, 11:16
I got mine this morning :)
Filled it with NATO standard lifeboat matches but they require their own striker to be carried also (sealed in plastic for safety). Not an ideal long term solution so I'll be looking for something to replace them with.
bushwacker bob
27-06-2005, 23:13
I found something GP.
A friend has just returned from Scotland(the northern end of the Empire) and brought me back some decent strike anywhere matches. They are called SCOTTISH BLUEBELL MATCHES,
They are imported and distributed(to Scotland) by a firm from High Wycombe called The Swedish Match company.
The heads are a striking shade of woad blue and the shaft is a decent length (little bravehearts)
In England I can only find Swan Vestas which are short with a pink head and white body,like an English tourist in a hot country.