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Stuart
10-06-2007, 15:32
This is a very peculiar bit US survival kit found in the USAF coldweather survival vest, not really sure if they could be described as very 'practical', but people have always enquired about them when I show them the example in my collection of weird and wonderful survival equipment from around the world.

its basically an automatic fishhook, which when triggered by a biting fish 'sets' the hook which is spring loaded and so provides shock absorption to prevent the fighting fish from breaking the line.

it comes in a waxed paper package (amusingly the USAF vests only appear to contain one each! overconfident?) with the markings:

420-01-379-5598
cage 0vmu5 PN 7188
Fishing & Trapping Kit, Emergency 1KT A

inside is one automatic hook, a reel of line, a little zipseal bag which the instructions say is a float, 4 bits of dehydrated artificial bait, a little rollpin tool for adjusting the sensitivity and a set of instructions which (amongst other things) suggests using it to catch birds and squirrels :eek:

http://www.tregor.co.uk/images/speedhook-mil.jpg


if people are interested I will put together a group buy, we would need to find homes for 40 of them at £5 each (postage included) to go ahead

Please remember that the use of these hooks in the UK as described on the enclosed instructions is illegal, not to mention inhumane. This group buy is only for inclusion in survival kits or for collectors of such oddities.

JonnyP
10-06-2007, 15:41
interesting.....yes please Stuart....

bloodline
10-06-2007, 15:50
I will take one please Stuart.

British Red
10-06-2007, 15:53
I'll take a couple stuart if it helps

Red

Wayland
10-06-2007, 16:19
I would be interested in a couple Stuart.

I'm also interested in those Yo-yo reels you had at the Bushmoot.

Stuart
10-06-2007, 16:38
well there certainly seems to be some interest!

ok The details of this second group buy will be:

• The cost (including shipping) will be £5 per kit.

• Payment can only be made by cheque or cash, no other payment methods will be accepted.

• this group buy will be limited to 40 kits, first come first served.

• kits will only be ordered when all payments have arrived and any cheques have cleared.

• I cannot post outside the United Kingdom.

• There are no guarantees or insurance, the kits will be sent by normal post.

• The group buy may be delayed if there is a problem with a cheque, provided details etc of any participant, I as the organiser cannot be held responsible for this.

• There is no guaranteed delivery time

• Orders cannot be cancelled once payment is received

• An individual may order as many kits as they wish provided the total is not more than the remaining number of unallocated kits.

• As the organiser I may decide to cancel your order and return your money at any time

• Although this group buy is organised Via the BushcraftUK forums it is in no way associated with BushcraftUK, BushcraftUK neither endorses this group buy nor will they accept any responsibility for it

Ok instructions for all those interested:

state your interest here and then send me a PM stating how many you want.

I will reply to your PM with an address to which you need post your payment + a letter stating how much you have sent and how many you want + a large envelope with your address clearly written in large block capitals

Too Much Kit To Carry
10-06-2007, 17:46
I'd like two please Stuart.

Awaiting delivery of new cheque book at the moment though!

Phil.

Ahjno
10-06-2007, 18:35
• I cannot post outside the United Kingdom.


:( ... bugger ...

w00dsmoke
10-06-2007, 19:00
I'd beinterested in a couple mate.

woodsmoke

scanker
10-06-2007, 19:16
:( ... bugger ...

Let me know if you want to pay for one Johan and I'll forward it on.

reddave
10-06-2007, 20:17
Seems greedy but would like 8 for self and others please ( if its ok? if not i will accept the imposed limit)

Stuart
13-06-2007, 14:15
Seems greedy but would like 8 for self and others please ( if its ok? if not i will accept the imposed limit)

No problem at all, you can have as many as you like (providing it is not more than the amount remaining at the time of asking)


It seems we might have a little confusion, nine people have announced that they would like to participate in the group buy.

But only 4 of that 9 have sent me a PM confirming there order and requesting the address to send payment, please remember that you need to PM me.

Also of the one payment that has arrived so far (this morning) the sender has forgotten to include his BCUK screen name on the letter, signing off only with his real name, which makes it tricky to know whose order I am dealing with.

In this case its OK as i think I know who it is, but please could you be careful to avoid this when sending your own payment

the instructions are repeated below




• The cost (including shipping) will be £5 per kit.

• Payment can only be made by cheque or cash, no other payment methods will be accepted.

• this group buy will be limited to 40 kits, first come first served.

• kits will only be ordered when all payments have arrived and any cheques have cleared.

• I cannot post outside the United Kingdom.

• There are no guarantees or insurance, the kits will be sent by normal post.

• The group buy may be delayed if there is a problem with a cheque, provided details etc of any participant, I as the organiser cannot be held responsible for this.

• There is no guaranteed delivery time

• Orders cannot be cancelled once payment is received

• An individual may order as many kits as they wish provided the total is not more than the remaining number of unallocated kits.

• As the organiser I may decide to cancel your order and return your money at any time

• Although this group buy is organised Via the BushcraftUK forums it is in no way associated with BushcraftUK, BushcraftUK neither endorses this group buy nor will they accept any responsibility for it

Ok instructions for all those interested:

state your interest here and then send me a PM stating how many you want.

I will reply to your PM with an address to which you need post your payment + a letter stating how much you have sent, how many you want and your BCUK username + a large envelope with your address clearly written in large block capitals

elma
13-06-2007, 14:28
can I have 2 please

godfather
13-06-2007, 14:36
I'd be up for one too.:)

smaguire
13-06-2007, 16:36
Pm sent regarding 5 kits.

mayfly
13-06-2007, 17:51
I'd like 2 please
Chris

Stuart
13-06-2007, 17:58
the list of people confirmed for this group buy so far:

Bodunn x 1 < - payment recived
w00dsmoke x 2
Elma x 2
Godfather x 1
Mikey P x 1
CCCC x 1
smaguire x 5
Kobalt01 x 3
Wayland x 2
Bloodline x 1
Mayfly x 2

leaving 24 remaining

Huon
13-06-2007, 18:26
I'll take 4 please stuart.

PM sent.

Thanks

Huon

nickg
14-06-2007, 22:22
Ill take 1 pls

Cheers
Nick

JohnC
14-06-2007, 22:32
Hi there, X2 please
Thanks for organising

Stuart
14-06-2007, 23:27
the list of people confirmed for this group buy so far:

Bodunn x 1 < - payment recived
w00dsmoke x 2
Elma x 2
Godfather x 1
Mikey P x 1
CCCC x 2
smaguire x 5
Kobalt01 x 3
Wayland x 2 < - payment recived
Bloodline x 1
Mayfly x 2
Huon x 4
Ahjno X 1
Too much kit to carry X 2
Reddave X 8
johnC x 2

only six remaining

Huon
14-06-2007, 23:36
Hi Stuart,

You need to PM me with your address and details if you want me to pay you,

Of course, if the kits are free....

:D

Huon

cccc
15-06-2007, 12:42
Can I have two.

Stuart, I PMed you for two, but only one is showing in the list, also I PMed you for a name for the Cheque :-) Otherwise its ready to go in the post ASAP ;-)

c

Moff8
15-06-2007, 13:37
I'll take one please

Stuart
15-06-2007, 14:03
Can I have two.

Stuart, I PMed you for two, but only one is showing in the list, also I PMed you for a name for the Cheque :-) Otherwise its ready to go in the post ASAP ;-)

c

ok I've corrected the list, have you not receved my reply to your pm?

cccc
15-06-2007, 14:17
Cheers Stuart, the cheques in the post :-)

c

jnlrnc
15-06-2007, 19:35
Please order me one Stuart

John

Aragorn
16-06-2007, 10:26
one for me please

Stuart
16-06-2007, 10:32
the list of people confirmed for this group buy so far:

Bodunn x 1 < - payment recived
w00dsmoke x 2
Elma x 2
Godfather x 1
Mikey P x 1
CCCC x 2
smaguire x 5
Kobalt01 x 3
Wayland x 2 < - payment recived
Bloodline x 1
Mayfly x 2
Huon x 4
Ahjno X 1
Too much kit to carry X 2
Reddave X 8
johnC x 2
Moff8 x 1
jnlrc x 1
nickg x 1
Aragon x 1

only 2 remaining

Wintrup
16-06-2007, 11:27
I'll take one if that's alright Stuart. Say the word and I'll send a cheque.

mojofilter
16-06-2007, 12:58
Two for me please Stuart? :)

mojo

Wintrup
16-06-2007, 13:43
only 2 remaining


Two for me please Stuart? :)

mojo

1+2=3:rolleyes:

Stuart
16-06-2007, 14:58
ALL GONE

the list of people confirmed for this group buy so far:

Bodunn x 1 < - payment recived
w00dsmoke x 2 < - payment recived
Elma x 2
Godfather x 1
Mikey P x 1
CCCC x 2 < - payment recived
smaguire x 5 < - payment recived
Kobalt01 x 3
Wayland x 2 < - payment recived
Bloodline x 1
Mayfly x 2
Huon x 4
Ahjno X 1
Too much kit to carry X 2 < - payment recived
Reddave X 8
johnC x 2
Moff8 x 1
jnlrc x 1
nickg x 1
Aragon x 1
mojofilter x 2

s.o.r.r.y wintrup, Mojofilter put his order in via Pm before you. :(

Matt Weir
16-06-2007, 15:11
What, where, wwwh?

That was quick! :lmao:

Stuart
20-06-2007, 15:35
the list of people form whom I have received payment so far:

Bodunn x 1 < - payment recived
w00dsmoke x 2 < - payment recived
Elma x 2
Godfather x 1
Mikey P x 1
CCCC x 2 < - payment recived
smaguire x 5 < - payment recived
Kobalt01 x 3
Wayland x 2 < - payment recived
Bloodline x 1 < - payment recived
Mayfly x 2
Huon x 4 < - payment recived
Ahjno X 1
Too much kit to carry X 2 < - payment recived
Reddave X 8
johnC x 2 < - payment recived
Moff8 x 1
jnlrc x 1 < - payment recived
nickg x 1
Aragon x 1 < - payment recived
mojofilter x 2

s.o.r.r.y wintrup, Mojofilter put his order in via Pm before you. :([/QUOTE]

andyn
20-06-2007, 16:46
Stuart,

Are these the same speedhooks that Tregor sell?
http://www.tregor.co.uk/speedhook.htm

They look interesting.

Stuart
20-06-2007, 17:14
Yes the same ones, Tregor used to be the only place in the UK you could get them.
But though they don’t do them anymore and the company has ceased trading as far as I am aware.

fast celt
20-06-2007, 17:19
If your left with any could you put me on the reserve list Thanks
wish I'd seen this earlier.:11doh:

bambodoggy
21-06-2007, 16:56
I've waited till this has finished so as not to upset Stuart but if you missed out on the group buy of these things then you could just order them direct from a chap called Randy over in the states (he owns speedhook).
I got three off him last year direct and with the exchange rate they worked out a bit cheaper than the group buy!!!!!

Here's his site:

http://www.speedhook.com/servlet/the-1/Speedhook/Detail

Hope that helps any that missed this group buy :)

Cheers,

Bam.

andyn
21-06-2007, 17:01
Yes the same ones, Tregor used to be the only place in the UK you could get them.
But though they don’t do them anymore and the company has ceased trading as far as I am aware.


Oh, the item seems to have vanished from the Tregor site, minutes after I mentioned that. :confused:

Maybe the owner prowls this place and saw us talking about his old shop. :bluThinki

Stuart
21-06-2007, 18:11
Oh, the item seems to have vanished from the Tregor site, minutes after I mentioned that. :confused:

Maybe the owner prowls this place and saw us talking about his old shop. :bluThinki

Actually Its more straightforward than that, whilst visiting my family yesterday I took the opportunity to mention to the members of my family who owned Tregor when it was trading that they really should pull the website down since they have closed the business.

he explained that there was still a very small number of the knives still in stock which they would like to shift and were leaving the website up as they would still sell what they had left to anyone who called.

I pointed out that if that was the case they should at least remove the stuff they didn’t have stock of any more, such as the Speedhooks.

Stuart
21-06-2007, 18:24
I've waited till this has finished so as not to upset Stuart but if you missed out on the group buy of these things then you could just order them direct from a chap called Randy over in the states (he owns speedhook).
I got three off him last year direct and with the exchange rate they worked out a bit cheaper than the group buy!!!!!

Here's his site:

http://www.speedhook.com/servlet/the-1/Speedhook/Detail

Hope that helps any that missed this group buy :)

Cheers,

Bam.

Hello Bam, its nice to see you still read the BCUK forums regulary

Its good of you to help out, but unfortunatly you are mistaken. The link you show is the civilian version of the speedhook, the military version is on the another page of the site here (http://http://www.speedhook.com/servlet/the-6/US-Military-Speedhook-survival/Detail)

You’ll notice that they are $9.95, which at the current exchange rate is &#163;4.99, but of course that doesn’t include shipping them to the UK.

Since the price on this group buy is &#163;5.00 (which includes postage) they are actually cheaper here than ordering them from the states and with a lot less hassle (also they used to be &#163;10 when they were available in the UK!!)

Stuart
21-06-2007, 18:44
the list of people form whom I have received payment so far:

Bodunn x 1 < - payment received
w00dsmoke x 2 < - payment received
Elma x 2
Godfather x 1 < - payment received
Mikey P x 1 < - payment received
CCCC x 2 < - payment received
smaguire x 5 < - payment received
Kobalt01 x 3
Wayland x 2 < - payment received
Bloodline x 1 < - payment received
Mayfly x 2 < - payment received
Huon x 4 < - payment received
Ahjno X 1
Too much kit to carry X 2 < - payment received
Reddave X 8
johnC x 2 < - payment received
Moff8 x 1 < - payment received
jnlrc x 1 < - payment received
nickg x 1
Aragon x 1 < - payment received
mojofilter x 2

andyn
21-06-2007, 19:40
Actually Its more straightforward than that, whilst visiting my family yesterday I took the opportunity to mention to the members of my family who owned Tregor when it was trading that they really should pull the website down since they have closed the business.

he explained that there was still a very small number of the knives still in stock which they would like to shift and were leaving the website up as they would still sell what they had left to anyone who called.

I pointed out that if that was the case they should at least remove the stuff they didn’t have stock of any more, such as the Speedhooks.

:11doh: Ah that makes more sense lol. Didn't realise that it was your shop. :o Certainly didn't sound like that in your last post.

Stuart
21-06-2007, 22:56
:11doh: Ah that makes more sense lol. Didn't realise that it was your shop. :o Certainly didn't sound like that in your last post.

Not mine, but it used to be a belong to a member of my family. Which where I got the details of the manufacturer to set up a group buy.

which "last post" did it certainly not sound like? :confused:

bambodoggy
22-06-2007, 11:11
Hello Bam, its nice to see you still read the BCUK forums regulary

Its good of you to help out, but unfortunatly you are mistaken. The link you show is the civilian version of the speedhook, the military version is on the another page of the site here (http://http://www.speedhook.com/servlet/the-6/US-Military-Speedhook-survival/Detail)

You’ll notice that they are $9.95, which at the current exchange rate is £4.99, but of course that doesn’t include shipping them to the UK.

Since the price on this group buy is £5.00 (which includes postage) they are actually cheaper here than ordering them from the states and with a lot less hassle (also they used to be £10 when they were available in the UK!!)

Fair enough, I stand corrected :) Still useful for any that missed your group buy to know they can still get their grubby mits on them :)

Cheers,

Bam. :D

andyn
22-06-2007, 12:04
Not mine, but it used to be a belong to a member of my family. Which where I got the details of the manufacturer to set up a group buy.

which "last post" did it certainly not sound like? :confused:

Don't worry Stu, all makes sense now.

I was refering to this post

"Yes the same ones, Tregor used to be the only place in the UK you could get them.
But though they don’t do them anymore and the company has ceased trading as far as I am aware"

then the item disspeared from the site, so thought the owner must have removed it after seeing the thread. Then you explained your family had owned the store and you had told them about it.

So it all fell into place. :o

Stuart
30-06-2007, 13:13
we are still awaiting payment from six people, I am aware that some post may have been delayed by the postal strike, but I would like to ask that the payments be in by the end of next week if possible.


if your name does not have < - payment received next to it in post number 43, I have not yet received your payment

Stuart
02-07-2007, 13:35
the current list of people form whom I have received payment so far look like this:

Bodunn x 1 < - payment received
w00dsmoke x 2 < - payment received
Elma x 2
Godfather x 1 < - payment received
Mikey P x 1 < - payment received
CCCC x 2 < - payment received
smaguire x 5 < - payment received
Kobalt01 x 3
Wayland x 2 < - payment received
Bloodline x 1 < - payment received
Mayfly x 2 < - payment received
Huon x 4 < - payment received
Ahjno X 1 < - payment received
Too much kit to carry X 2 < - payment received
Reddave X 8
johnC x 2 < - payment received
Moff8 x 1 < - payment received
jnlrc x 1 < - payment received
nickg x 1
Aragon x 1 < - payment received
mojofilter x 2


still awaiting payment from 5 people

w00dsmoke
02-07-2007, 23:30
I'm sure if you don't make the numbers up, then between us I'm sure we could try and make it up?

Woodsmoke

Ahjno
03-07-2007, 19:24
Blimey, that took ages!! I wonder if that guy from the post brought it to you walking from NL to the UK :eek:

Stuart
06-07-2007, 10:46
Blimey, that took ages!! I wonder if that guy from the post brought it to you walking from NL to the UK :eek:

it was probably delayed at our end, the postworkers were on strike

the current list of people form whom I have received payment so far look like this:

Bodunn x 1 < - payment received
w00dsmoke x 2 < - payment received
Elma x 2
Godfather x 1 < - payment received
Mikey P x 1 < - payment received
CCCC x 2 < - payment received
smaguire x 5 < - payment received
Kobalt01 x 3
Wayland x 2 < - payment received
Bloodline x 1 < - payment received
Mayfly x 2 < - payment received
Huon x 4 < - payment received
Ahjno X 1 < - payment received
Too much kit to carry X 2 < - payment received
Reddave X 8
johnC x 2 < - payment received
Moff8 x 1 < - payment received
jnlrc x 1 < - payment received
nickg x 1< - payment received
Aragon x 1 < - payment received
mojofilter x 2


still awaiting payment from 4 people, if your name is not highlighted as paid on this list please contact me

Stuart
10-07-2007, 22:53
I dont want to start knocking people of the list because they havent paid yet, as I'm not sure if the post strike has been part of the delay.

but I am also aware that people who have paid are waiting.

So I have decided to go ahead and cash the cheques that have arrived and get them out ASAP.

I will then wait untill the 20th of july for the outstanding payments, after which date I will request new 'buyers' for the remaining number

Stuart
20-07-2007, 19:27
I have posted out the speed hook orders of the following people today:

Bodunn x 1
w00dsmoke x 2
Godfather x 1
Mikey P x 1
CCCC x 2
smaguire x 5
Wayland x 2
Bloodline x 1
Mayfly x 2
Huon x 4
Ahjno X 1
Too much kit to carry X 2
johnC x 2
Moff8 x 1
jnlrc x 1
nickg x 1
Aragon x 1

Four people have failed to pay for their order, and as per my previous post the deadline has now passed and their orders have been cancelled.

This now means that there are now 15 speedhooks available in this group buy, if you would like to order one please follow the original instructions.

TheGreenMan
21-07-2007, 11:51
2 For me please, Stuart.

Best regards,
Paul.

Angus Og
23-07-2007, 11:56
2 for me Stuart.

PM sent

mayfly
23-07-2007, 13:27
Got mine today. Curious, clever things. And lethal! Would be highly effective at setting the hook I should think!! Has anyone re-hydrated the bait? Wondering about that! Thanks, Stuart

godfather
23-07-2007, 13:56
Got mine over the weekend. Many thanks for arranging the buy. What a great and clever bit of kit.

Wayland
23-07-2007, 14:44
Mine just arrived. Very clever bit of kit.

Time to repack my PSK

Moff8
24-07-2007, 08:29
got mine yesterday. very clever, thanks again for organising the group buy.

nickg
24-07-2007, 22:26
Mine arrived today. Well done for a great effort Stuart and thanks. Excelland bit of kit I shall try out in norway next year.
Cheers
Nick

Ahjno
25-07-2007, 12:20
Received mine yesterday :D
Thank you for organising Stuart!

Huon
26-07-2007, 08:12
Mine got here a few days ago. Intriguing bit of kit and good to have.

I look forward to going somewhere I can try it out.

Thanks!

Huon

cccc
26-07-2007, 10:52
Cheers, both arrived safe and sound, kind of fun :-)

Cheers for sorting this :-)

jnlrnc
26-07-2007, 12:43
Kit arrived safely

Thanks Stuart

John

Aragorn
27-07-2007, 23:07
sorry for the late post, mine arrived last week, can't wait to try it out (in theory ofcourse), thanks Stuart

Mikey P
29-07-2007, 08:36
Sorry about delay - been in Norway. Arrived while I was gone - many thanks!

TheGreenMan
08-08-2007, 11:22
Just to confirm the arrival of the speed hooks…erm, they have arrived (the day before yesterday, actually). Very interesting items indeed. Thanks for all your efforts on this one, Stu. Very much appreciated.

Cheers,
Paul.

Stuart
08-08-2007, 13:18
Just to confirm the arrival of the speed hooks…erm, they have arrived (the day before yesterday, actually). Very interesting items indeed. Thanks for all your efforts on this one, Stu. Very much appreciated.

Cheers,
Paul.

Day before yesterday!?, my local post office must be using geriatric bicycle couriers

TheGreenMan
08-08-2007, 13:27
In any event, no worries, Stu :)

Cheers,
Paul.

SCOMAN
29-08-2007, 16:15
:) Is it too late or can I buy into this? If not I'm happy to go on the reserve for the future?

wolf man
29-08-2007, 20:47
Hi Stuart

you mentioned that you had a few left from the group buy, are there any still available? I'd be interested in two if you do.

Cheers

Stuart
30-08-2007, 02:22
yes there is still plenty of them left

wolf man
04-09-2007, 23:10
Hi Stuart

recieved my hooks today, cheers for them, can't wait to try them out on some fish rather than my finger!!!!! :eek: those hooks are sharp!!!!