View Full Version : Anybody got a Swiss Army stove for sale?
I am after one of these:
http://www.wephaus.com/proddetail.asp?prod=124554
Anybody got one, please?
weekend_warrior
06-06-2007, 17:04
These guys seem to have them...
http://www.militarymart.co.uk/prod6.asp?prod_id=8401&id=194&sub_cat=534&grpid=8401&msg=&offset=
Never used them, don't know 'em, caveat emptor etc... :)
These guys seem to have them...
http://www.militarymart.co.uk/prod6.asp?prod_id=8401&id=194&sub_cat=534&grpid=8401&msg=&offset=
Never used them, don't know 'em, caveat emptor etc... :)
Thanks for the link. I googled and couldn't find any!
I'll give it a couple of days and see if anyone has one they want rid of, if not I'll get one of those.
Cheers
I want one of these!! Damn cool!
http://militarymart.co.uk/prod5.asp?prod_id=8178&id=189&grpid=8178&msg=&offset=12#prod_anchor
TheGreenMan
06-06-2007, 19:15
I take it you favour a blow dried hair style, Spam?
Best regards,
Paul.
I want one of these!! Damn cool!
http://militarymart.co.uk/prod5.asp?prod_id=8178&id=189&grpid=8178&msg=&offset=12#prod_anchor
I can't see a stove there.
No, but it is a rather funky hat.
The only place you'd get away with wearing a hat like that is at a cricket match. :)
No, but it is a rather funky hat.
Funky?
Is that a misspelling?
You want a hat thread start your own.
Anybody got one of these Swiss Army Stoves for sale, please?
Nobby,
I bought my stove from here:
http://www.dicks-armyshop.ch/index.php?navid=32&level=2&layout=32&selectedImage=38
precisely £3.71 brand new.
Regrettably the site appears to be in German; a language that I absorbed by reading war comics in the '50's and '60's.
Hande Hoch and Schnell, Schnell (always shouted twice for some mysterious Teutonic reason) don't appear to be on the site.
Is there an English translation that I have missed?
I've got a used one (still in good nick) you can have, PM me you address and I'll send it on
Try here>
http://www.militarymart.co.uk/prod7.asp?prod_id=8401&id=194&sub_cat=534&sub_cat2=132&sub_cat2_name=Cookers&grpid=8401&msg=&offset=
It's the same site as Spamel's natty hat link and they have loads of good,cheap stuff.
I got myself a brand new bivi bag for £30 from them a few weeks ago and as they are near me i had a chance to have a good look around and the place is stuffed full of stuff i am sure they had the stove your after and i saw some steel swedish army trangias which are hard to get hold of now (i resisted buying one as i all ready have the ally version).
Hope this helps.
Try here>
http://www.militarymart.co.uk/prod7.asp?prod_id=8401&id=194&sub_cat=534&sub_cat2=132&sub_cat2_name=Cookers&grpid=8401&msg=&offset=
It's the same site as Spamel's natty hat link and they have loads of good,cheap stuff.
I got myself a brand new bivi bag for £30 from them a few weeks ago and as they are near me i had a chance to have a good look around and the place is stuffed full of stuff i am sure they had the stove your after and i saw some steel swedish army trangias which are hard to get hold of now (i resisted buying one as i all ready have the ally version).
Hope this helps.
Thanks
I checked them earlier but their postage charges double the cost.
I've got a used one (still in good nick) you can have, PM me you address and I'll send it on
thanks for the offer
I'll pm you
cheers
I've got a used one (still in good nick) you can have, PM me you address and I'll send it on
Hi All
I just want to acknowledge this fellow bushcrafter Rik.
He saw my quest for a Swiss Army stove and has supplied me with one, but he has flatly refused all offers of money or goods in exchange.
I've never met him and I am much heartened that such a spirit still exists. If I should ever meet him he will have to have a drink or two.
Thanks a lot Rik.
Nobby
ps I've just been up the garden in the rain and boiled half litre of water very easily and the whole outfit fits nicely on the downtube of my bike. I don't understand why these stoves aren't more widely known.
Beer Monster
04-07-2007, 18:21
ps I've just been up the garden in the rain and boiled half litre of water very easily and the whole outfit fits nicely on the downtube of my bike. I don't understand why these stoves aren't more widely known.
I was under the impression that people avoided them because they were quite unstable, limited capacity and limited use (no method of hanging over a fire etc) when compared to a Swedish Army stove for example.
Having said that I’ve never seen one :o ! Just read about them on this forum :rolleyes: !
I was under the impression that people avoided them because they were quite unstable, limited capacity and limited use (no method of hanging over a fire etc) when compared to a Swedish Army stove for example.
Having said that I’ve never seen one :o ! Just read about them on this forum :rolleyes: !
That's interesting.
I can't see that it is anymore unstable than a hobo stove (and I have made a few of those) and nothing that a bit of care won't solve. I normally look for a suitable site to rest a stove as I start thinking about lunch. It is surprising how many concrete slabs there are around the countryside. Bus shelters, lych gates and church porches are good, war memorials do at a pinch.
Limited capacity is true. It holds 500ml of water in the 'pot'. Luckily that is two and and a half times what's left of my stomach can hold, but I can see that may a problem for normal eaters.
There isn't any need to hang it over a fire; the fire burns within the outer casing. Still, there you go, different strokes for different folks and all that :0)
I conducted some further experiments this afternoon after making a mesh grate and a foil pot lid.
firstly, the device burns wood well with the mesh grate to help the draw, and using a blow tube to get the coals hot. I tried unidentified twigs first and then apple twigs. Either burnt, the second better for coals, and both left a residue on the bottom of the pot.
secondly, I tried a hexy tablet about half the size of a military one. Stunk and left a residue, as usual, but boiled ok and didn't consume all the tablet.
thirdly, I tried the burner from my Trangia. Four desert spoonfuls of meths and I had a rolling boil in very little time. it was powerful enough boil that it lifted my foil pot cover and the wind caught it and took it down the garden. I used my metal mug to hold it on after and it warmed the mug nicely.
I think that I shall keep the stove with its litre of water clipped to my cycle frame and have the meths burner in my saddle bag pocket. Without meths, or when I fancy an open flame, I'll burn twigs, and I'll keep a couple of hexy blocks in the bottom of the saddlebag for emergency back up. Meths is easy to find in the UK and I don't think I'll need to carry very much spare fuel for weekend rides beyond what is in the meths burner. I'm 'doing' a Shropshire Roman Road in a couple of days so I can try it in the field, as it were.
I bought one of these some time ago from an Army Surplus here in Switzerland, where it was described as Swedish army surplus.
Anyway, my findings:
The chimney shape works very well and the wire handle clips in securely yet stows away tidily too, so that was good. Even with a fire going you can still pick the whole thing up due to the zig-zag handle. The bottle has a naff cork stopper rather than a screw top, so it's not so good for stuffing willy nilly into a backpack. I used the bottle to store dry twigs/fuel.
When you've got a fire going the water in the cup didn't take long to reach a boil, and it's even feasible to add extra fuel mid boil, but the ash tended to rise up then loop over into the cup due to some kind of localised edy currents. A lid would prevent this obviously.
I was pleased with the ease of lighting and the rapid cool down after extinguishing the fire, very little mess.
The fun and games came to a stop however when I put BBQ coal in as fuel. The chimney effect cause the whole apparatus to melt, so now I'm left with an alu cup and stopperless bottle. Still, for 2 quid I can't complain.
I bought one of these some time ago from an Army Surplus here in Switzerland, where it was described as Swedish army surplus.
Anyway, my findings:
The fun and games came to a stop however when I put BBQ coal in as fuel. The chimney effect cause the whole apparatus to melt, so now I'm left with an alu cup and stopperless bottle. Still, for 2 quid I can't complain.
Yes, the aluminium casing is a bit on the thin side which probably accounts for the corrugated sides which must give it some strength :0(
Thanks for that input. I'll definitely stick to meths, twigs and small hexy blocks.
That's interesting.
I can't see that it is anymore unstable than a hobo stove (and I have made a few of those) and nothing that a bit of care won't solve.
Someone on another thread pointed out to me that it's more stable with the bottle stood in the wire "handle". I've previously knocked in a couple of tentpegs and hooked the ends into the bottom vent holes for extra stability.
There isn't any need to hang it over a fire; the fire burns within the outer casing. Still, there you go, different strokes for different folks and all that :0)
I've added a couple of split rings through the top vent holes and with a small lenth of chain can have the whole thing hanging from a branch, though obviously only in calm weather.
I tried a hexy tablet about half the size of a military one. Stunk and left a residue, as usual, but boiled ok and didn't consume all the tablet.
I haven't tried hexy but one of my fave standbys, that works well with this stove, is the cheap and cheerful tealight and cardboard. Leaves a residue but not much smell and a lot cheaper than hexy.
Method : Get a tealight, take it out the case, scrape the outside diameter down a mm or 2, saving the scrapings. Cut off a bit of corrugated cardboard a little taller than the tealight case, wrap it around the whittled down tealight and replace back in the case. Tip the wax scrappings back ontop and you have yourself my favourite emergency burner, you can fit a couple of these between the bottle top and cup for transport too if you forgo recycling the scrappings.
Another thing I've added is the plastic top from a tin of CoffeMate, it makes a tight fitting lid. Cut a couple of slots in the edge to accomadate the cup handles and 2 slots on oppersite sides ontop, originally just to let out steam but I enlarged one of them as that allows me to drink without taking the top off. It also acts as a barrier to stop my lips burning as I like to drink staight away. Only used the lid twice and it's not melted yet but can't vouch for it's longterm performance.
I've been a bit warry of using wood and twigs as it is made aluminum.Now if someone made one of a similar design of stainless steel but sized to a Nalgene bottle they'd have a real winner that would probably weigh about the same.
Correction : It wasn't the Coffemate lid I settled on, that fits loosly over the top as does a Smash tin lid, the lid I settled on for a snug fit came from a Morrisons stainless steel bowl set
I've been a bit warry of using wood and twigs as it is made aluminum.Now if someone made one of a similar design of stainless steel but sized to a Nalgene bottle they'd have a real winner that would probably weigh about the same.
I wouldn't be surprised to find that a standard Sigg bottle fits nicely.
jamesraykenney
05-07-2007, 20:44
I want one of these!! Damn cool!
http://militarymart.co.uk/prod5.asp?prod_id=8178&id=189&grpid=8178&msg=&offset=12#prod_anchor
I do not know if the word 'cool' could ever be applied to that item, but I have often wondered how well they work...
jamesraykenney
05-07-2007, 20:51
I've got a used one (still in good nick) you can have, PM me you address and I'll send it on
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jamesraykenney
05-07-2007, 21:05
OK, I have had one of these for a year or so, and have never used it...
For some reason, I had the idea that you cooked in the bottle and poured out the soup/whatever into the cup to eat it...
It is strange how you can have a misperception, and just hang on to it despite all common sense...:o
I haven't tried hexy but one of my fave standbys, that works well with this stove, is the cheap and cheerful tealight and cardboard. Leaves a residue but not much smell and a lot cheaper than hexy.
Method : Get a tealight, take it out the case, scrape the outside diameter down a mm or 2, saving the scrapings. Cut off a bit of corrugated cardboard a little taller than the tealight case, wrap it around the whittled down tealight and replace back in the case. Tip the wax scrappings back ontop and you have yourself my favourite emergency burner, you can fit a couple of these between the bottle top and cup for transport too if you forgo recycling the scrappings.
What does the cardboard do & how is it better than just the candle?
TheGreenMan
08-07-2007, 12:34
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What does the cardboard do & how is it better than just the candle?
My guess is that it acts as an additional circular wick, and produces the effect of the type of flame on a Trangia alcohol burner, for instance. A very nice idea, if that's the principle at work, here.
Best regards,
Paul.
Well i made them tea candle with cardboard and bees wax burns better still makes black on pot. check this out corn chips
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d52/oops62/stoves%202/th_corn01-1.jpg (http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d52/oops62/stoves%202/corn01-1.jpg)
How about a birch fungus stove this pot takes to long a soda can be better
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d52/oops62/stoves%202/th_fstove.jpg (http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d52/oops62/stoves%202/fstove.jpg)
My guess is that it acts as an additional circular wick, and produces the effect of the type of flame on a Trangia alcohol burner, for instance. A very nice idea, if that's the principle at work, here.
Correct, I probably should have said "and light the cardbord wick".
Not the cleanest burning of cookers but at only 1-2p if bought by the 100 one of the cheapest and cleanest/easiest for transporting, hence I'm a little surprised they're not used more often. They do seem to suit the Swiss Army Stove in particular. Depending on the exact make of tealight, cardboard and wind conditions they burn for 15-30 minutes.
A side note, as I keep a tealight or 2 in my emergency supply I also keep a strip of corrugated card.
Not the cleanest burning of cookers ..............
Glen, you are the master of understatement!
I tried it today and in over 50 years of camp cooking that is without doubt the filthiest and smokiest method that I have ever used.
Meths and hexy are by far cleaner.