View Full Version : Ray And Ewan Mcgregor In The Jungle (trips Money Can't Buy)
giancarlo
06-07-2004, 12:42
FROM WOODLORE MAILSHOT
RAY AND EWAN MCGREGOR IN THE JUNGLE (TRIPS MONEY CAN'T BUY)
We are pleased to announce that the BBC are repeating the Jungle trip where Ray took Ewan McGregor for an experience of a lifetime!
This programme is advertised as Ray Mears' Adventure Special and will be on BBC2 Sunday 11th July at 9pm.
I enjoyed watching this again last night. Maybe I didn't catch it all last time but it didn't seem exactly the same, maybe I just got more out of it this time.
It did look like very hard going, condensing 10 days into an hour of TV must be hard going and just couldn't really portray the hardship of the whole endeavour. I'm well impressed with Ewan, to go from doing hardly any physical activity to that must take a lot of grit, I couldn't do it.
All in all a good bit of TV...and it's always good to see MR Mears in action!
Excellent program.... Its not often you get me glued to the TV for an hour. I know what you mean about condensing 10 days into an hour program.... it really didn't do the jungle justice..... its so much more 'alive' than you see on tv.
:-)
Ed
I'm sure there was more last time I saw it. Ewan went of on a mad one and started slashing around in the jungle. And didn't one of the guides kill a spider monkey?
Heh-heh! Ewan's face was a picture - all credit to him but I have never seen anyone so relieved as that before when that helicopter pitched up at the end! :o):
I hadn't seen the program before last night so I didn't know what to expect, I guess I thought we would see more of Ray as it was titled Ray Mears adventure special and i was disappointed in that, but it was still very interesting insight into how briefly educated people can still make it in the jungle, It was good that no help was offered to Ewan otherwise it would have been less than an adventure. In my opinion anyway.
hobbitboy
12-07-2004, 21:51
Did anyone think Ewan came acroos as slightly tapped? Mainly due to his glances to the camera and slightly psychotic laff? He impressed me tho, he came off as a sound bloke :super: (in my opinion anyway) and has improved my opinion of "celebrities". maybe its only b-list celebrities who hate the jungle (i'm a celebrity get me out of here.....)
While it's nice to have programs like this on the telly, I found it unsatisfactorily bitty.
Not enough Ray Mears telling us about the jungle. Not enough bushcraft techniques. Not enough about Ewan McGregor and his personal odyssey in the jungle. Not enough archaeology. It really needed to be a mini series!
I felt just the same way about the programme when Ray visited the Evenk people - fascinating but all too short
I did like seeing the Hennesy Hammock in the background during the first "putting up the hootchie" scene!
i didn't see it this time round, but i had it on video from a previous airing.
ewan came up with a great explanation of jungle trekking, "it's like walking on a conveyor with somebody throwing mud and sticks at your feet"
the first time i watched it, i saw ray pass ewan the hot chocolate he'd brewed in an aluminium mug by way of a practical joke, i told ewan not to drink out of it but he didn't listen...... :o):
all in all i thought he did bleedin' well.
cheers, and.
Summary: Ray Mears and Ewan McGregor programme on BBC2 next Wed at 8pm.
(except viewers in Scotland, as far as I can tell).
Well talk about cracking an egg into a toaster and an omelette popping out :D
I thought, what with the new "Dave" channel (if you have Freeview it will either be
on channel 12 if you've not retuned your box, or channel 19 if you have - I think)
scheduled to show World of Survival among other series, I'd have a look and see
what's on, via http://www.radiotimes.com
Sure enough both Bushcraft and World of Survival are on from Sat 20th but so
is Ray Mears and Ewan McGregor: Extreme Jungle on BBC2...
(but not in Scotland).
I think this is also known as "Trips money can't buy".
So for those in N. Ireland, Wales (and I presume England but my setting only
shows me London & S. East) it's showing on Wed 24 Oct 2007 at 8pm
VIDEO Plus+: 2231
"Survival Expert Ray Mears takes actor Ewan McGregor deep into the Honduran Jungle
in search of a lost civilisation. Ray is no soft option travelling companion - he tests
people to the utmost in the wild. After just a few basic lessons in survival they set off
to face everything the jungle can throw at them."
(Radiotimes site is temporarily unavailable but I've checked it here:
http://uk-tv-guide.com/list/BBC%202%20London/24+October+2007)
Any chance this could be moved to the media sub-folder please? :)
And I won't be able to see it... :banghead: :(
Nice one Jodie for the heads up! I have been dying to see this for a number of years now, I am really looking forward to it!
Re-reading my earlier post I'm amazed at the restraint I've shown in not peppering it
with these little red guys :red:
:D
but :( for Karl5
Angus Og
17-10-2007, 13:56
Summary: Ray Mears and Ewan McGregor programme on BBC2 next Wed at 8pm.
(except viewers in Scotland, as far as I can tell).
Why does that not surprise me. When BBC2 were showing Ray Mears Bushcraft up here for the first time you could buy it on DVD and the BBC still had the last two episodes to show.:eek: :(
I have email the BBC to try and find out if it will be shown in Scotland.
Now off to phone some friends with a DVD recorder and Sky tv just in case.
For those of you in Scotland with Sky tv.
Sky Channels
989 BBC2 England
991 BBC2 Wales
992 BBC2 NI
I know what you mean! Especially given that one of the presenters is from the area ;)
Good luck with emailing the BBC - it may of course be repeated up there a week later,
they've been doing that with Wild Food I think, sometimes.
Angus Og
18-10-2007, 11:03
It's not getting shown on BBC2 Scotland Wed 24th Oct (http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/listings/index.shtml?day=wednesday&service_id=4284&x=749&y=224)
Anyone going to record this on a DVD recorder, I'll pay for postage and send back the DVD plus a couple more blanks for the trouble taken.
PM me.
Angus Og
18-10-2007, 11:08
it may of course be repeated up there a week later,
Hopefully it will but we're dealing with the BBC and all common sense goes out the window when it comes to them.
Angus Og
24-10-2007, 17:38
It's not getting shown on BBC2 Scotland Wed 24th Oct (http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/listings/index.shtml?day=wednesday&service_id=4284&x=749&y=224)
Anyone going to record this on a DVD recorder, I'll pay for postage and send back the DVD plus a couple more blanks for the trouble taken.
PM me.
Anyone? :D
Twoflower
24-10-2007, 18:37
Iain, not sure if this is any good for you (and others way up there) but if you have realplayer then you may be able to get bbc2 streaming via their multicast service (if it's still up).
http://support.bbc.co.uk/multicast/rams/uni/bbc2.ram
That link will open realplayer (as far as I know).
Incidently, I can't find anywhere on the BBC site that advertises this, I found it through another forum.
hth
Graham_S
24-10-2007, 22:37
I recorded it on sky+ from the BBC2 England channel.
Watching it now
:D
Toadflax
25-10-2007, 10:05
It's not getting shown on BBC2 Scotland Wed 24th Oct (http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/listings/index.shtml?day=wednesday&service_id=4284&x=749&y=224)
Anyone going to record this on a DVD recorder, I'll pay for postage and send back the DVD plus a couple more blanks for the trouble taken.
PM me.
PM sent - I've copied it onto a DVD for you so just need your address. If any of you other Scots folk want a copy, send me a PM. I can't do too many copies, but if there's just a few of you...
This was a really good program. Decent people, behaving decently, no swearing, no conflict. A real refreshing change to the mass of dross that gets pumped into our living rooms. :soapbox:
Geoff
I missed the first 10 minutes sorting out Wild Gourmets for Dougster :( Switched over just in time to see RM demonstrating the Eventk(sp?) hitch. The best explanation I've seen. I've looked at a few websites showing how it should be done, but couldn't get my head around it. Hopefully the BBC will repeat it on one of their other channels in a few days so that I can record it. :banghead:
G
The reason it wasn't shown in Scotland was that we had Dave MacLeod climbing Hells Lumb. Great this man is my new hero...
Toadflax
25-10-2007, 12:18
Switched over just in time to see RM demonstrating the Eventk(sp?) hitch. The best explanation I've seen.
He must train his staff well. The demonstration RM gave was identical to the one I was given on a Woodlore course earlier this year by one of the other Woodlore instructors
Geoff
Anyone know what knot he did at the other end of the tarp ridge? Also what do you/RM use to keep the tarp taut at the ends?
Chris
Surrey Yeoman
25-10-2007, 12:41
I recall reading an article about it when it was first shown and a comment from Ewan along the lines of, "There was one point when I was cold, wet and fed up and I just lost it and stormed off into the jungle slashing at anything in reach with my machete. After a while I went back to camp and Ray, calm as anything, asked me if I'd seen any of the 15 deadly poisonous snakes and spiders that could have bitten me, not to mention the Jaguars!"
Classic!
I've just finished reading "Long Way Round" where he and Charlie Boorman rode around the world on a couple of BMW bikes. Very good book and Ewan comes across as a very regular guy - definitely not a "Luvvie."
Looking forward to "Long Way Down" on the telly next week!
My Sky+ cut the last 3 min off :(
Toadflax
25-10-2007, 13:04
Anyone know what knot he did at the other end of the tarp ridge? Also what do you/RM use to keep the tarp taut at the ends?
Chris
This question may well be answered on other postings on this forum, but the knots I learned at Woodlore are also shown in this link: http://www.outdooridiots.com/features/200606/pitchingatarp/pitchingatarp4.asp#PageIndex (I have no connection with this web site). I'm sure that this isn't the only way, but this is the way that Woodlore teach.
Geoff
Toadflax
25-10-2007, 13:05
My Sky+ cut the last 3 min off :(
It did seem to be running a little bit behind schedule.
Geoff
This question may well be answered on other postings on this forum, but the knots I learned at Woodlore are also shown in this link: http://www.outdooridiots.com/features/200606/pitchingatarp/pitchingatarp4.asp#PageIndex (I have no connection with this web site). I'm sure that this isn't the only way, but this is the way that Woodlore teach.
Geoff
Thanks for that link. I think I understand it now, just need to give it a go. It looks so cool when its done properly :cool:
As for the other end, I'm sure RM mentioned a taut line hitch, or maybe I'm getting confused with the A-Z clips I've been watching :confused:
G
Toadflax
25-10-2007, 13:24
As for the other end, I'm sure RM mentioned a taut line hitch, or maybe I'm getting confused with the A-Z clips I've been watching :confused:
G
The link gives all of the knots needed for hanging a tarp and (I think) information on how to pack it away as well: the Evenk; the variously named tarp taut hitch for the other end; the Prussik for keeping the tarp tight along the ridgeline, etc. I think there's also an article on BCUK about hanging a tarp, but I haven't looked at it to see if it is the same as RM's method.
Tying the Evenk looks really slick when done properly (which is probably why they showed it on the TV), the tarp taut is a bit more messy, but effective.
Geoff
Thanks for that link. I was reading this http://www.bushcraftliving.com/tarpsetup but didn't quite understand the 2nd knot/ridge knots from their desciption.
Chris
Of course, you can tie your ridge line at both ends with the evenk knot. Then, when your tarp prusiks are done up tight, you get a loose ridge line, over the top of the tarp. If you put this under your tarp, you can hang stuff off of it!
Really enjoyed that. Delighted to see the Royal Geographical Society featuring and
I rather liked the determination to keep going despite the sound guy getting drenched
and then the main camera pinging out of action. What inner reserves of fortitude
these people must have!
I'd have been stomping my feet and crying well before then! Ewan was brilliant and
seemed to take everything in his stride. Ray was utterly unfazed by either minor or
major changes to the plan when things went a bit wrong - I was very impressed.
It was over far too soon though - I could quite happily have watched an extended
remix, although perhaps footage was thin on the ground given the camera woes.
They really should show it much more often on terrestrial television - it had comedy,
rain, drama, stoicism, more rain and beautiful surroundings and was an hour well spent
in front of the box.
Great stuff!!
(I know the first knot off by heart now, I think, but not the second)
Angus Og
25-10-2007, 20:49
It's not getting shown on BBC2 Scotland Wed 24th Oct (http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/listings/index.shtml?day=wednesday&service_id=4284&x=749&y=224)
Anyone going to record this on a DVD recorder, I'll pay for postage and send back the DVD plus a couple more blanks for the trouble taken.
PM me.
Got this covered, thanks to those who PM me.
(I know the first knot off by heart now, I think, but not the second)
If you ever make it to the same meet as me, I'll show you all three knots required to secure your tarp. Offer is open to all in fact, so if you want to learn at Middlewood, give me a shout. I'll bring loads of string!
:D
Jodie, The second knot is shown here eally clearly
http://www.outdooridiots.com/features/200606/pitchingatarp/pitchingatarp4.asp#PageIndex
Chris
If I ever do, I will take you up on that :-)
I can do all the knots, just have to keep rewinding the video on YouTube (not the RM/EM
one - someone, Pablo I think? published a rather helpful guide which got me through the
worst of it!) to get the other one, but the Evenk one I think is actually quite easy although
I imagined it to be very fiddly at first, but it seems to come quite naturally.
Probably I should be good at knots the amount of celticy knotwork patterns I've played
around with courtesy of George Bain's magnificent book. If only it was that simple in 3d
though!
There's a very good online tutorial here (http://www.animatedknots.com/knotlist.php?LogoImage=LogoGro g.jpg&Website=www.animatedknots.com) for a fair amount of knots.
Sadly, they don't show the evenk knot, but there's quite a lot of other useful ones.
/ Karl