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wanderinstar
07-05-2007, 19:15
I have heard of a few people who are using their sleeping bags as quilts. I have been wondering if there would be a demand for a quilt made by Snugpak to same spec as blanket.
Obviously it will need to be lighter than a sleeping bag, to make it worthwhile. The fixing method I had thought of was to fix loops underneath to correspond with loops on blanket. These could be connected together with lightweight mini crabs. I had thought a 6" overlap down sides of blanket
Any thoughts?
British Red
07-05-2007, 19:22
Oh yes!
I'm not even fussed about fixings as I'll just curl up under it in the hammock with it over me. I sooo need a packable quilt. I'm in for at least 2 (price depending of course).
I'm even willing to pay for a prototype and do reports since I'll be doing some extended trips this summer and its just what I need!
Red
Too Much Kit To Carry
07-05-2007, 19:47
LOL - more kit to carry ;)
I'd be up for it depending on pack size and price.
Phil.
I sooo need a packable quilt.
Red
The Nomad tropical quilt works well for me just drapped over.
http://new.nomadtravel.co.uk/catalog/browse/sleeping/travelproof-deluxe-tropical-quilt
If I get cold I double it over bringing it fully in the hammock.
Very usefull bit of kit, can be used as a proper poncho liner with head hole, quilt, warm weather sleeping bag ( could also zip 2 together too if you needed ) colder weather sleeping bag outer ( adds about 5 degrees temp range )
Though I'd still be interested in a snugpack overquilt ( price dependent )
Gailainne
07-05-2007, 19:58
Interesting thought, the thing is it would HAVE to pack smaller and be lighter than a comparible sack to be worthwhile, I was already thinking of (if I take the hammock to Sweden) to not bother with a sack, and just take a silk liner, a quilt would work just as well, probably better. LIke I said interesting...I'll keep an eye on this thread.
Regards
Stephen
I am interested if this goes ahead!
Gailainne
07-05-2007, 20:00
The Nomad tropical quilt works well for me just drapped over.
http://new.nomadtravel.co.uk/catalog/browse/sleeping/travelproof-deluxe-tropical-quilt
Nice one, I like that
I'd definitely like to try one of these! Sounds like a great solution.
Chris
John Fenna
08-05-2007, 19:41
Sounds GOOD!
John
MagiKelly
08-05-2007, 19:57
I do not think you would want it attached to the underblanket as that would lift it off of you and the air space would allow the cold. I use my sleeping bag as a blanket but leave the bottom bit zipped so my feet can stay in there to stop the cover slipping up and getting them cold.
wanderinstar
08-05-2007, 20:28
So you tuck the sleeping bag round you in the hammock?
The reason I thought for the loops would be to stop quilt falling of you if you turned over in your sleep. So am I right in thinking that some sort of foot pouch, for want of a better name, would be all that is necessary. Obviously it wouldn't need to be as wide as blanket.
This is what I am after, ideas. So that when I have a sample made up it will be spot on.
British Red
08-05-2007, 20:43
Work for me Ian! I would be happy with a plain quilt to be honest, although a small foot pouch wouldn't hurt if it didn't add much to cost
Red
Hmm. Watching with interest.... :rolleyes:
wanderinstar
08-05-2007, 21:34
Well I have spoken to Snugpak and they are more than willing to make up a sample, once I have finalised a design. So if there is anymore input?
bikething
08-05-2007, 21:38
Hmm. Watching with interest.... :rolleyes:
what he said :)
British Red
08-05-2007, 21:41
Yep,
One thought
You could put an allround zip on it to make a square summer bag!
Red
wanderinstar
08-05-2007, 21:48
Yes Red, but that would mean double the size and weight. You might as well just use your sleeping bag as a quilt. As some folk do. The idea of this is to save weight and volume.
Yep,
One thought
You could put an allround zip on it to make a square summer bag!
Red
you mean this then
http://www.surplusandadventure.com/ishop/800/shopscr3361.html
or if you like green
http://www.snugpak.com/30_codegreen/31_16_junglebag.htm
atb
Duncan
British Red
08-05-2007, 21:57
Yeah good point all okay - I'll go back and play axes :o
Okay size of a single quilt then ;)
Still happy to test it out though (and pay for a prototype)
Red
Yep, very interested mate,
Brian
Graham_S
08-05-2007, 22:57
Looks interesting. some of the US quilts have flaps of fabric around the edges of the quilt that can be tucked under a sleeping mat/the body. perhaps in combination with a foot pocket?
Yes Red, but that would mean double the size and weight. You might as well just use your sleeping bag as a quilt. As some folk do. The idea of this is to save weight and volume.
I was thinking along the lines of a design with the under section being mainly material only, being something like plain breathable ripstop pertex/paratex with zips either side to make it easier to use with a hammock, small footsection of the underside quilted at the bottom and maybe quilted hood at the top not too sure about the hood though as hats and neck buffs work quite well anyway.
Zips at both sides should make it a lot easier to get into than a normal bag, plus could be used as a useful lightweight summer bag for ground sleeping, with a sleeping mat, under material should wick some of the summer sweat away from the body.
As a quick bit of market research it might be an idea to ask people to state which bags they use as quilts and if they'd prefer warmer or cooler than that. It'd give an idea of what sort of insulation people want ontop.
But throwing out yet another idea into the mix. If I was designing one purely for myself I think I'd look at the bottom, as suggested above, with a 2 tops that can be zipped ontop of one another ( kinda like nestled modular sleeping bags really ) giving warm, medium and cold use.
How amicable would Snugpak be to people being able to choose the level of insulation they wanted in a basic design anyway? As material and size of the quilt wouldn't change I'm not sure how easy/hard it would be for them to put in a different fill. ( though stuffsac and lableing might be another matter )
twisted firestarter
08-05-2007, 23:24
I have been thinking about a Woobie...
http://www.kifaru.net/woobie.htm
but will watch this space with interest
dommyracer
08-05-2007, 23:41
I've spent some time in the hammock thinking about this as well.
Rab make something called a 'top bag', which is essentially a sleeping bag with no filler on the bottom. Its designed for adventure racers and ultra-minimalists.
If you are thinking of designing one of these I think it might be a good idea that the bottom section could form a sort of a sleeve, so that a kip mat could be slid into it - enabling it to be used on the floor as well as in the hammock.
Also I was thinking, working backwards, that it might be possible to make a sleeping bag that could be zipped into 2 halfs so that the two halfs could then be used as an underquilt and top blanket, but could still be used as a regular sleeping bag if need be.
wentworth
09-05-2007, 02:06
There is no need for a bottom section to a hammock top quilt. It would just complicate getting in and out. Also, the under section would serve zero purpose.
From experience, I'd say 48 inches wide, like the JRB quilts is a good width for average sized people. I haven't had any problem with the quilt becoming untucked while asleep, as the cocooning of the hammocks traps them against your body.
Someone mentioned flaps of fabric at the sides of the quilt. Ray Jardine uses this idea, as it allows you to have a smaller section of the quilt insulated (and therefore lighter) but still wide enough to tuck in to avoid drafts.
If the quilt were attached to the underblanket, forming a peapod, there would be an air gap that would have to be filled with something. Ed Speer uses a top quilt in his hammock to fill this airgap, but that sort of negates the use of the top quilt idea.
I've also had a play with a couple of quilts which I made longer than normal, after reading of people pulling the quilt over their head, with just their nose poking out to breathe. I found that this helps keep the head nice and warm, without the greasy feeling of sleeping in a beanie or balaclava.
My last suggestion (yes, I'm drawing to a close ;) ) would be to put a head hole in the centre, a la JRB so that the quilt could be used as a insulated poncho. Now if the outer fabric could be make spark resistant, so that it could be worn round the fire, that would be perfect :D
How amicable would Snugpak be to people being able to choose the level of insulation they wanted in a basic design anyway? As material and size of the quilt wouldn't change I'm not sure how easy/hard it would be for them to put in a different fill. ( though stuffsac and lableing might be another matter )
well the SF system does that with 2 bags a Softie 3 and a 10 with a expander joiner panel
plus the Milspec bags have lined foot wells for boots on
I like it but for me in UK its way to hot to use together in any season ( cool sleeper :cool: )
how bout a rectangular sleeping bag with differential fill on each side that can be compleatly unzipped to give 2 quilts
the new Bushy Skitzo
ATB
Duncan
dommyracer
09-05-2007, 12:31
If it was going to be a strictly 'hammock only' quilt, then I would say there is little need for a bottom layer. However I think that by adding one it would mean the bag could also be a top bag thats used on the floor.
This would certainly make it more attractive to me, (and I suspect others)
this link has a pretty good review of a top bag
http://www.planetfear.com/article_detail.asp?a_id=446
wentworth
09-05-2007, 13:02
You can use a quilt on the ground too. Many do. And we all sleep under a quilt at home every night.
British Red
09-05-2007, 13:12
Hmmm the more I think about this, the more appealing a basic, simple quilt becomes.
Red
dommyracer
09-05-2007, 15:07
You can use a quilt on the ground too. Many do. And we all sleep under a quilt at home every night.
True. Your average quilt at home is normally a lot larger than the person under it though. You can normally wrap a single quilt all the way round yourself.
My preference for an underside is that you would only use the minimal amount of top insulation because it would be wrapped around your body where it needs to be, ensuring no cold spots. As the purpose of this quilt is mainly to save carrying around the bottom insulation of your sleeping bag, it seems to make sense to me.
Also with a bottom section you can put a foot plug on, to ensure the feet are adequately insulated.
having a bottom layer would also mean that if you're on the ground you wouldn't be in direct contact with your kipmat, which can often be quite sweaty.
Whether the bottom layer is 'needed' or not is a matter of individual opinion I guess - personally I'd like one, but I'm not the one thats going to be making the decision.
I have been thinking about a Woobie...
http://www.kifaru.net/woobie.htm
but will watch this space with interestThat does look good!Thanks for the link!
That does look good!Thanks for the link!
US army used to issue a quilted liner for their Poncho (tyed in ) and as a Jungle sleep system used to have one years ago (may even be in the loft :rolleyes: )
but was very light weight from an insulation point of view
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-48,GGLG:en&q=Poncho+Liner
Oviously bigger than that suggested here
ATB
Duncan
Neanderthal
09-05-2007, 17:56
I'm interested in this one!
I've been thinking about getting one of the £38 Tesco down sleeping bags and asking my Mam to turn it into a quilt.
Sleeping bag and underblanket is too much weight, a quilt with box end for feet with enough width to tuck around shoulders would be great. Someone has already mentioned Ray Jardine and his lightweight quilts http://www.ray-way.com/quilt/index.shtml
I've been sleeping in a buffalo jacket and underblanket combination but a quilt is what I need. Not wrestling with a sleeping bag to get comfy sounds great.
Stu
wanderinstar
10-05-2007, 21:16
Well there have been quite a lot of suggestions. Some good, some not so good.
Snugpak have a minimum order limit so filling each quilt to individual spec wouldn't work. As regard having 2 different thicknesses that zip together, would be too costly and too heavy.
The design I have finished up with is single layer with a foot bucket and a flap either side to tuck under you to stop quilt falling on floor. I have one problem left, how to keep head warm. The idea of a hole in top of quilt for your face creates a problem.
If the hole is positioned for say someone 5ft 6in then someone who is say 6ft 3in would find the hole over the top of their chest. One thought I have had (now don't all laugh at once) is a separate hood, similar to foot bucket. That way it wouldn't matter how tall or short you were and it could be left off in summer.
dommyracer
10-05-2007, 21:34
A bottom layer of material (pertex, quantum, whatever) would also help with the head warmth problem.
Gailainne
10-05-2007, 21:41
I think rather than a square edge to the top its either curved or pointed, which would allow it to wrap around the head leaving the mouth/nose exposed, either that or go with the mummy type bags and build a hood into the top, the only problem with that is like you say catering for body length. The hood is an interesting idea, but most of us has a favorite cool/cold weather hat that could be utilised, and would have already.
I like the idea of pertex or some sort of water resistant mat'l on the whole of the outside.
Stephen
MagiKelly
10-05-2007, 21:43
is a separate hood, similar to foot bucket.
That is what I use. I call it a "hat" :D
Multi purpose too as during the day I can use it to keep my head warm ;)
British Red
10-05-2007, 21:56
Aaah but mine has merino and possum in it :D
wanderinstar
10-05-2007, 22:04
OK OK Forget the hood. I was just going on something Wentworth said.
Are these quilts gonna be one size fits all or are there longer and wider sizes planned for the chunky and lanky ones amongst us? If that is the case, a removable hood could be buttoned on, with a drawstring to close it in for the bean headed ones or left loose for the melon heads!
British Red
10-05-2007, 22:10
Ian,
I suspect Wentworth meant put a hole bang in the middle of the quilt that can be velcro'd shut. Then you can wear it round camp as a warm poncho in the evenings. I've seen it done before on "plain" camp balnkets and quilts (without sidepanels etc).
I'm sure we will be happy with whatever you suggest mate - the foot bucket does sound handy although for me, I'm less certain I need the side panels since my hammock comes way up to the sides anyway and I cant think the quilt would fall out
Red
wentworth
10-05-2007, 22:12
OK OK Forget the hood. I was just going on something Wentworth said.
What I meant was that i have used extra long quilts. You drape it over your head, and just leave your nose sticking out one side (assuming you sleep on your side!). It simply involves having a longer quilt.
I look forward to seeing what you come up with.
What about doing what macpac have done on one of there range of bags.
They have filling on the top and just a pertex sleve on the bottom for a thermarest to slide into would this not then get rid of the need for
an under blancket?.
Just an idea Rob.
wentworth
11-05-2007, 00:47
Hi Rob,
unfortunately the pad would leave you with a sweaty back and would leave your shoulders uninsulated in the hammock. Also, the idea of the quilt is that it is not only lighter, but easier to get into when using a hammock than a sleepingbag.
wanderinstar
11-05-2007, 17:54
Right, have taken final design into Snugpak and they say they may have a sample ready for next week. They will also have a price.
So watch this space.
If it was going to be a strictly 'hammock only' quilt, then I would say there is little need for a bottom layer. However I think that by adding one it would mean the bag could also be a top bag thats used on the floor.
This would certainly make it more attractive to me, (and I suspect others)
Have to wait and see what the prototype looks like but given the description it sounds like it should fulfill all the needs fro a hammock quilt.
Ive already started thinking of how to modify it for use as a topbag with kipmat and actually the presented design with personalised mods ( below ) now strikes me as better than trying to make them into one unit.
Make a sleeve for you favourite kipmat, using the materials that you prefer for top and bottom. Make some buttonholes in the quilt flaps, either add buttons to the underside of your homemade kipmat sleeve or tie some weak elastic to the opposing buttonholes which will run under the kipmat.
Advantages being it fits you own kipmat exactly, using your prefered materials and you can ditch the extra weight of the sleeve when you know you won't use it.
wanderinstar
13-05-2007, 08:02
Red,
Have tried sending you a PM but your Inbox is full.
British Red
13-05-2007, 10:22
Space made Ian!
Sorry
Red
What about doing what macpac have done on one of there range of bags.
They have filling on the top and just a pertex sleve on the bottom for a thermarest to slide into would this not then get rid of the need for
an under blancket?.
Just an idea Rob.
Really brilliant idea!
I'm going to make one like that this week for sure ehe. Or can I buy such a sleeping bag somewhere, I haven't found such a type on macpac's website.
Very nice (I'm just talking to myself as everyone already got it ;) ) as you could easily sleep on the ground or in the hammock, no sliding off of the mat, no unneeded underside of sleeping bag to carry..
I know some people just put in the sleeping mat in the sleeping bag but I don't like to lie on it directly.
I'm a bit wary of getting too much kit that is specifically for use with a hammock. Like to have it a bit more versatile.
Though I'm sure the underblanket is most comfortable, it's great :)
And I guess this quilt will be great too.
wanderinstar
13-05-2007, 22:13
Do you ever get the feeling you are wasting your time?
Do you ever get the feeling you are wasting your time?
Me yea, sorry for the nonsense, but you are definately not wasting your time, the underblanket is super!
British Red
13-05-2007, 23:17
Do you ever get the feeling you are wasting your time?
Yup!
I always try to get input into a new design Ian same as you do but sometimes I wonder if it wouldn't be better to just post up the finished article and say "who wants one of these"?
It can be frustrating running Group Buys (and I've only done three so far) but I do enjoy getting people a good and unusual product at a competitive price. I wonder if John is immune to the frustrations yet?
Ah well - another group buy on the Red Hunters axe, prototyping on the double bit and a surprise new Group Buy to come in the summer (not Cegga or FW either). I guess I must enjoy it really!
Red
Hi gunnix
The Macpac bags were from there right is light series the one i remember was
called a Neve 400g or 950g.
Do you ever get the feeling you are wasting your time?
Is this coment because i made a sergestion.?
wentworth
14-05-2007, 05:40
I think the point is that people using underblankets have realised that they sleep comfortably with their sleeping bags over them in quilt mode. Therefore the logical step is to make a narrower (and therefore lighter) quilt for hammock use.
If you are using the underblanket, you do not need a mat in your sleepingbag. You also do not need another layer of useless nylon under you. You have two layers of nylon with the underblanket, as well as the nylon body of the hammock.
The criticism of the macpac (and similar) bags was that drafts were felt, where the insulated part of the sleepingbag met the sleeve for the mat. The neve had a down filled baffle installed to combat this, but this added more weight.
With quilts, if you get a draft, you tuck the quilt in. It's that simple. If you get a draft in a top-bag like the neve, you're buggered.
The other point is ease of use. With a sleepingbag (or top bag) you would have to get into it, zip it up and then position yourself in the hammock. If it were a top bag, you would have to ensure that the insulated side of it did not rotate round during the night. With a quilt, you put it ontop of you while lying in a hammock.
I think there are already quite a number of top bags on the market for those who wish to sleep on the ground (macpac, Rab, gossamer gear etc.)
The quilt that Ian has designed will be lighter than carrying a sleepingbag and more compact. It is also specifically designed for hammock use.
wanderinstar
14-05-2007, 05:46
I think he must be Red. Will have to wait until Summer then.
Thank you Wentworth.
Has any one got a picture of an underblanket being used so i can see how
the hole system workes thanks.
MagiKelly
14-05-2007, 09:57
I think he must be Red. Will have to wait until Summer then.
Thank you Wentworth.
I do not consult on design I just say what is available and ask who wants one ;)
There are a few things that really get me riled though but generally I just let them pass. since this is not my thread I can air one here without looking like I am getting at anyone.
Anytime someone starts a post with "I have not read the whole thread but" it drives me crazy. If they cannot put the commitment in to reading the thread why should I bother going out my way to give them the answer than spoon feed them along the way to getting a group buy product.
Of course I have to say the gratitude and attitude of members in general far out weight this small and infrequent niggle.
MagiKelly
14-05-2007, 10:02
Has any one got a picture of an underblanket being used so i can see how
the hole system workes thanks.
Have a look here
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=15711
My pictures etc are on the second page.
<snip>
Of course I have to say the gratitude and attitude of members in general far out weight this small and infrequent niggle.
I've never organized a group buy but I've benefitted from several. Both of you have done a great service to the community here that is difficult to repay.
I have not added much to the discussion here but I have followed it with interest. My main thought is that the design sounds interesting and I don't have any real suggestions to improve it.
I often use a woolen blanket in my hammock. It's heavier than a quilt would be but it gives me enough material to tuck around my shoulders.
If the quilt is wide enough for that I can't see any problems.
Thanks wentworth for your post. I did notice most commercial quilts or top bags come at high prices. :o
So the quilt would look something like this:
http://www.backpacking.net/makegear.html -> go to sleeping section nr2 "Light Quilt"
Looks good, I'm sure you'll design a fine product.
Definately interested.
I guess you'd make different lengths for different people? Like 160cm, 180cm, 200cm. Or just one which is long enough for everyone.
wanderinstar
16-05-2007, 21:44
That looks a very handy site Gunnix. Will have a look at it later. The prototype quilt will be 18" wide at feet, 34" wide at hips, 40" wide at shoulders and 84" long. There will be a 9" wide flap 24" long at each side at hip position to tuck under you. It may seem a bit on the long side but we have to think about tall people (MK).. The extra length will also cover your head. There will only be one size, to avoid complications.
Will have to wait and see what Red has to say about it when he gets it for test.
British Red
16-05-2007, 22:04
Looking forward to it Ian!
I'll sling a hammock locally for a couple of others to contribute feedback
Jon Pickett has been threatening to camp here for a while so "two birds" springs to mind!
Red
wanderinstar
16-05-2007, 22:08
Very good Red, the more the merrier.
Neanderthal
21-05-2007, 21:39
Ian,
Could you post the weight and pack size when you get the prototype?
Cheers
Stu
Too Much Kit To Carry
21-05-2007, 21:45
Looking forward to it Ian!
I'll sling a hammock locally for a couple of others to contribute feedback
Jon Pickett has been threatening to camp here for a while so "two birds" springs to mind!
Red
Room for a little one? ;)
Phil.
Graham_S
21-05-2007, 21:46
It looks like I'm going to the moot again this year. need a demonstrator again?
wanderinstar
25-05-2007, 21:14
Graham, I don't think Red will part with it once he gets his hands on it.:D
I called into Snugpak today to pick up sample. One big problem they had made it too short. When I said I wanted it 84" long, they made it that length before they turned the bottom up to make foot pocket. So it turned up being 72" long. Oh well good things are worth waiting for.
One thing they did that I didn't ask for, but I'm glad they did, was to quilt the side flaps. Should be easier to handle and position the flaps than if they were just single layer of material.
So will have to wait for about another 10 days. Apart from being longitudinally challenged, it looked the business. Can't wait.
I had a look at the prototype this weekend. It looked good.
wanderinstar
17-06-2007, 18:30
No test results yet. I only picked it up Thurs. Pack wt is 1.2kg, size is about 3" shorter than underblanket. I tried it out last night, but I am biased. But put it this way, the prototype will not be for sale unless a group buy goes ahead. I will definitely be wanting it back.
Neanderthal is testing it first and then it is going down to Red.
wentworth
18-06-2007, 01:31
One thing they did that I didn't ask for, but I'm glad they did, was to quilt the side flaps. Should be easier to handle and position the flaps than if they were just single layer of material.
By quilt do you mean that the flaps are insulated like the rest of the quilt?
wanderinstar
18-06-2007, 18:35
Yes that is correct.
wanderinstar
21-06-2007, 17:45
Have finally worked out a total price for the Quilt. It will be £48.67. Unfortunatly when I had it out last w/end I forgot my camera and Stu has quilt at the moment for a review. Hopefully he will be able to get some photo's of it in use.
If there is anything I have not covered, feel free to ask.
I have been watching this thread with interest too and would love to be able to be part of the 'pass-around'. I normally use my sleeping bag opened out like a quilt when the weather is warm. Sometimes this is still too hot.
It would be nice to have a smaller item to drape over ones self when trying to sleep. Hence my interest. Plus I'm one of Wanderinstars fans with regard to the underblanket.
The main part of this for me is this has to do two sleep systems. One, I know it will work well in is what it has been designed to do, ie the hammock. The second one for me is to work well on the ground and in unusual circumstances, ie the bottom of a boat. This will swing the deal as far as I'm concerned because I can then leave my sleeping bag at home and use the quilt instead.
Please let me know if I can try this prototype for 24 hours. (After Red of course)
Cheers from Swyn.
Neanderthal
21-06-2007, 18:54
Tried the quilt out last night in the garden with underblanket.
At 11pm it was 20 degrees and only cooled down to about 13 by 5:30 this morning. Consequently I was very toasty in shorts and T-shirt. :)
First impressions:
Very snuggly and the foot bucket is a great feature.
Compared to battling with a sleeping bag the quilt is excellent as it is just a case of putting feet in the end, tucking the side bits around you and pulling the quilt up. There was plenty of quilt to wrap around my neck and shoulders.
I've just had a thought that I could use the quilt with a karrimat for summer camping instead of a sleeping bag.
The quilt measures approx 100cm wide by 200cm long.
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/8913/quilt1ax7.jpg
Packed size compared with Underblanket on the left.
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/5683/quiltpackedua2.jpg
Off to do the Plantlore course at Woodsmoke this weekend so I'll try it out then and post more details.
Thanks Ian for the chance to test the prototype.
Stu
Neanderthal
02-07-2007, 20:19
First chance I've had to post since going to Woodsmoke.
We had a great time on the course and the quilt worked well. Heavy rain during the night and some rain during the day but the temperature was quite warm. Tried it one night without underblanket as wife had forgot her thermarest. Just a bit cold underneath where the quilt didn't quite wrap round, a wooly jumper covered the gap underneath though.
The 2m length is long enough to pull over your head should you want to, but means there is a fair amount of material to create a fluffy collar to wrap around. There was plenty of quilt to wrap around my legs especially with the side tabs, although I managed to curl up and pull my feet out of the foot bucket on occasion.
One thing I'd do is put a mark on so that I could easily see which is the top end and upper side of the quilt, maybe the BCUK Logo could go here?
This weekend I was staying in a climbing club hut in the lake district and used the quilt in my bunk instead of a sleeping bag. It worked well and was slightly cooler as expected. One comment though was that the material was a bit noisey.
Next weekend I'm off backpacking with the tent so I'll be taking the quilt instead of my 3 season sleeping bag.
In the meantime I'll have a think about possible ways of wearing it in some kind of quilted cape configuration. Any suggestions please post.
The verdict so far: I'd buy one. :D
Stu
wanderinstar - well done mate - great looking design! i'm 6' 4" and 19 stone (hence my username, though my mates tend to just call me ape), and sleeping bags make me feel like i've been mummified alive!
stick me on the list buddy, i'll defo want one!
wentworth
03-07-2007, 01:48
In the meantime I'll have a think about possible ways of wearing it in some kind of quilted cape configuration. Any suggestions please post.
The verdict so far: I'd buy one. :D
Stu
A head hole situated in the middle, closed with velcro is easily done.
Also, uninsulated flaps that run 3/4 the length of the quilt would reduce bulk and drafts.
To further reduce weight, the foot end could be tapered.
Looks like a nice design though.
wanderinstar
03-07-2007, 08:23
Have just emailed Snugpak about having underside a lighter colour. Cant see a problem there.
Is it time to start taking orders yet?
A head hole situated in the middle, closed with velcro is easily done.
Also, uninsulated flaps that run 3/4 the length of the quilt would reduce bulk and drafts.
To further reduce weight, the foot end could be tapered.
Looks like a nice design though.
Like this? http://216.83.168.206/index_files/DSC00455-Stealth%209.JPG
Courtesy of Jacks 'R' Better (http://216.83.168.206/index_files/Products%20List_files/No%20Snivelling%20Quilt.htm)
Nigel
wentworth
04-07-2007, 00:02
Just like that! My JRB Stealth has one, and it's a pretty nifty feature.
also, the uninsulated flaps like this:
http://www.ray-way.com/quilt/index.htm
wanderinstar
05-07-2007, 19:06
Hopefully the prototype will be at Forest Camp next w/end so if anyone (Gorilla) want to see it. Then I think GrahamS is going to take it to Summer Bushmoot.
Wentworth, Thanks for suggestion but I already answered that question in Post 35
"The idea of a hole in top of quilt for your face creates a problem.
If the hole is positioned for say someone 5ft 6in then someone who is say 6ft 3in would find the hole over the top of their chest."
wentworth
05-07-2007, 22:45
Hi WanderinStar,
The hole is to use the quilt as a poncho around camp, not for a hood.
wanderinstar
13-07-2007, 13:28
Wentworth, Thank you very much for your input, I will however decline on this occasion. I was hoping to have an all in cost of about £35-40. But due to the width and length it uses just about same amount of insulation and material as underblanket. Hence the total cost of £48.67. Too start adding extra's will I think take the cost through the roof.
As I said earlier it will be with me at Forest Camp this w/end. So if anyone wants to see it?
If anyone wants to start the ball rolling, I am willing to start taking orders.
For me its to expensive. I know you cant change price and it looks like a great product but I wont buy one. Just to let you know.. probably many others dont have a problem with the price ;)
Bardster
18-07-2007, 00:02
I like the idea, count me in for one please!
Graham_S
18-07-2007, 00:32
I'm in.
Incidentally, I have the prototype at the moment, and I'll have it at the Moot if anyone wants to have a look at it before they commit to buy.
I'll be the one wearing green with a broad brimmed leather hat carrying a knife and sleeping in a hammock. you can't miss me ;)
I tried the quilt out at the weekend. I wasn't cold so it was only a partial test but here's my thoughts on it.
Firstly size, It was more than big enough for use in the hammock. With the sides of the under-quilt drawn up around the hammock there is only a small area on top that needs insulation and I did not even have to bother tucking the sides in to cover this.
I gather It's been made big enough for ground use and I didn't get to test this so I can't comment.
I've heard it mentioned that a different colour for the underside would be useful but more useful in my opinion would be a different coloured stuff sack.
When bundled up it looks exactly like the under-quilt and as I have two of them, it would be very easy to find myself with two of them packed by mistake.
Overall it seems like a good product that should do it's job well.
wanderinstar
20-07-2007, 16:45
I am going away for a fortnights holiday tomorrow. So I will start the list off and as in recent buys if you copy list and add your name and number you want to it. I will then carry on when I get back.
As has been already said the top will be same colour as blanket and the bottom will be a sand colour. Will see if Snugpak do different colour stuff sacks and I will also delete the side flaps, as I don't think they are needed. This will reduce weight by a bit and should reduce price slightly. Money better in Your pocket etc....
The list is as follows.
Neanderthal 1
Gorilla 1
Bardster 1
GrahamS 1
bikething
20-07-2007, 16:48
Neanderthal 1
Gorilla 1
Bardster 1
GrahamS 1
Bikething 2 :p
cheers
Steve
Neanderthal 1
Gorilla 1
Bardster 1
GrahamS 1
Bikething 2 :p
mayfly 2
One for SWMBO, too!
Thanks for doing this :You_Rock_
Chris
Wayland 1
Neanderthal 1
Gorilla 1
Bardster 1
GrahamS 1
Bikething 2 :p
mayfly 2
British Red
20-07-2007, 18:38
British Red 1
Wayland 1
Neanderthal 1
Gorilla 1
Bardster 1
GrahamS 1
Bikething 2
mayfly 2
fast celt
20-07-2007, 19:36
One for me please
fast celt 1
British Red 1
Wayland 1
Neanderthal 1
Gorilla 1
Bardster 1
GrahamS 1
Bikething 2
mayfly 2
:You_Rock_ :thanks:
bikething
20-07-2007, 22:04
One for me please
fast celt 1
British Red 1
Wayland 1
Neanderthal 1
Gorilla 1
Bardster 1
GrahamS 1
Bikething 2
mayfly 2
:You_Rock_ :thanks:
Hope they're not being dished out in list order... this queues building from the wrong end ! :lmao:
wanderinstar
20-07-2007, 22:24
No it's alright Steve, I know who is to blame. It;s that Viking bloke, whatsisname.:D
Clem, you need to add yourself onto the list.
Cut and paste the existing list and put yourself onto it.
CLEM 2 please
British Red 1
Wayland 1
Neanderthal 1
Gorilla 1
Bardster 1
GrahamS 1
Bikething 2
mayfly 2
fast celt
21-07-2007, 18:58
Hey clem don't you like me? you knocked me off the list :eek:
I've put myself back
CLEM 2 please
fast celt 1
British Red 1
Wayland 1
Neanderthal 1
Gorilla 1
Bardster 1
GrahamS 1
Bikething 2
mayfly 2
Hey clem don't you like me? you knocked me off the list :eek: :cussing:
I've put myself back
CLEM 2 please
fast celt 1
British Red 1
Wayland 1
Neanderthal 1
Gorilla 1
Bardster 1
GrahamS 1
Bikething 2
mayfly 2:cussing: I don't know ya to dislike ya:D
mate.:11doh:
wildrover
23-07-2007, 01:08
Wildrover 1
CLEM 2 please
fast celt 1
British Red 1
Wayland 1
Neanderthal 1
Gorilla 1
Bardster 1
GrahamS 1
Bikething 2
mayfly 2
Angus Og
23-07-2007, 11:33
CLEM 2 please
fast celt 1
British Red 1
Wayland 1
Neanderthal 1
Gorilla 1
Bardster 1
GrahamS 1
Bikething 2
mayfly 2
Angus Og 1
wildrover
23-07-2007, 21:03
Seems I've been bumped off the list:puppy_dog
so here goes again.
Wildrover 1
CLEM 2 please
fast celt 1
British Red 1
Wayland 1
Neanderthal 1
Gorilla 1
Bardster 1
GrahamS 1
Bikething 2
mayfly 2
Angus Og 1
wanderinstar
30-07-2007, 12:06
By the time I get home this may be poss.
Wildrover 1
CLEM 2 please
fast celt 1
British Red 1
Wayland 1
Neanderthal 1
Gorilla 1
Bardster 1
GrahamS 1
Bikething 2
mayfly 2
Angus Og 1
Aliwren 1
Bardster
31-07-2007, 10:38
Wildrover 1
CLEM 2 please
fast celt 1
British Red 1
Wayland 1
Neanderthal 1
Gorilla 1
GrahamS 1
Bikething 2
mayfly 2
Angus Og 1
Aliwren 1
have had to take myself off - sorry
Lurch 1
Wildrover 1
CLEM 2 please
fast celt 1
British Red 1
Wayland 1
Neanderthal 1
Gorilla 1
GrahamS 1
Bikething 2
mayfly 2
Angus Og 1
Aliwren 1
I'm having trouble with paypal limits so if you'll accept a cheque can put me down for one.
I'll take one please! And I'll have one of the Underblankets aswell if you do another group buy!
Greg x1
Lurch 1
Wildrover 1
CLEM 2 please
fast celt 1
British Red 1
Wayland 1
Neanderthal 1
Gorilla 1
GrahamS 1
Bikething 2
mayfly 2
Angus Og 1
Aliwren 1
I'll take one please! And I'll have one of the Underblankets aswell if you do another group buy!
Greg x1
Lurch 1
Wildrover 1
fast celt 1
British Red 1
Wayland 1
Neanderthal 1
Gorilla 1
GrahamS 1
Bikething 2
mayfly 2
Angus Og 1
Aliwren 1Sadly having to pull out,absolutely GUTTED :( :( :(
i,ll take one if i,m not too late please !
i,ll take one if i,m not too late please !
Gill, You need to copy and paste the list with your name on it.:)
British Red
01-08-2007, 22:20
Greg x1
Lurch 1
Wildrover 1
fast celt 1
British Red 1
Wayland 1
Neanderthal 1
Gorilla 1
GrahamS 1
Bikething 2
mayfly 2
Angus Og 1
Aliwren 1
Gill 1
;)
Neanderthal
01-08-2007, 22:52
wanderinstar
How many do you need to order for the first batch?
Wish I'd still got the prototype for the last couple of nights at the Moot.
Stu
wanderinstar
04-08-2007, 13:24
Right then holidays over now and back to work. The list so far is as follows, if I have missed anyone off, please give me a shout.
Neanderthal
Gorilla
GrahamS
Bikething x 2
Mayfly x 2
Wayland
British Red
FastCelt
Wildrover
Angus Og
Aliwren
Lurch
Glen
Gill
That totals 16, for this first buy I will order at 30.
Will get onto Snugpak and see what the reduction is for leaving the side pieces off. Then when I get a final figure I will start collecting names, addresses and money, if thats OK with everyone.
Sounds good.
I'll be in Norway from Wednesday to the end of August though.
British Red
04-08-2007, 18:02
I'll pay for yours if it goes ahead whlst you are away Gary - we can sort it out when you get back
Red
wanderinstar
17-08-2007, 20:28
Have heard back from Snugpak and to leave of the side flaps will only save £2.50 so I have decided to leave them on.
So the final price will remain the same at £48.67.
British Red
17-08-2007, 21:07
I have the quilt now and its a great looking piece of kit - its almost too warm for this weather if combined with the underblanket (as it should be). Does anyone want photos etc and if so what type would help people make their minds up?
Red
I have the quilt now and its a great looking piece of kit - its almost too warm for this weather if combined with the underblanket (as it should be).
Does anyone want photos etc and if so what type would help people make their minds up?
Red
yes please Red! :D - do you use it (with the underblamket) instead of a sleeping bag or as well as?
British Red
19-08-2007, 21:59
Instead of Graham. I can't get to it till next weekend now - I'll see what I can do then
Red
have to take myself off the list - my landy has just failed its mot with £1500 of welding needed, so i need a new one - so'rry for any inconvenience Ian
Neanderthal
GrahamS
Bikething x 2
Mayfly x 2
Wayland
British Red
FastCelt
Wildrover
Angus Og
Aliwren
Lurch
Glen
Greg
Gill
have to take myself off the list - my landy has just failed its mot with £1500 of welding needed, so i need a new one - so'rry for any inconvenience Ian
Neanderthal
GrahamS
Bikething x 2
Mayfly x 2
Wayland
British Red
FastCelt
Wildrover
Angus Og
Aliwren
Lurch
Glen
Greg
Gill
Someone needs to take my name off the list, I PM'd Wanderinstar last week.
Unfortunately I have to save up for another venture..:dunno:
wanderinstar
23-08-2007, 06:03
Sorry Greg, thought I had done it.
Neanderthal
GrahamS
Bikething x 2
Mayfly x 2
Wayland
British Red
FastCelt
Wildrover
Angus Og
Aliwren
Lurch
Glen
Gill
That's down to 15.
Not looking good is it!
There must be more interest in these! - Its a camping quilt not only for hammock use, ideal for any form of camping even as a spare quilt for guests. This is such a good idea I hope it goes ahead.
OETZI
Neanderthal
GrahamS
Bikething x 2
Mayfly x 2
Wayland
British Red
FastCelt
Wildrover
Angus Og
Aliwren
Lurch
Glen
Gill
wanderinstar
24-08-2007, 19:01
Thank you for the vote of confidence Ali. It had crossed my mind to pull the plug on this, as it's going so slow. But will hang on a bit longer.
Angus Og
24-08-2007, 19:51
Instead of Graham. I can't get to it till next weekend now - I'll see what I can do then
Red
Red I would be grateful if you could get some pictures and some details like weight and length.
Cheers
/Iain
wanderinstar
24-08-2007, 20:41
Iain,
On Post 63 are the specified sizes, Post 72 the weight is 1.2kg, Post 77 are some pictures and sizes.
The production run will have be olive on outside and sand on inside to help differentiate in dark.
Hope this helps.
Mind you Reds photos will be excellent, no doubt.
Angus Og
24-08-2007, 20:44
Iain,
On Post 63 are the specified sizes, Post 72 the weight is 1.2kg, Post 77 are some pictures and sizes.
The production run will have be olive on outside and sand on inside to help differentiate in dark.
Hope this helps.
Mind you Reds photos will be excellent, no doubt.
Cheers Ian, I'm just a bit drunk and headin out to the pub again. :o :rolleyes:
British Red
24-08-2007, 21:37
They will if I'm ever around long enough to sling me hammock up and take em :o
wanderinstar
31-08-2007, 19:17
We seem to have stuck at 16. Need a few more to make this doable. Think of the cold nights coming and then think" Dam I wish I had got one sooner, instead of spending money on something else."
Me too please.
OETZI
Neanderthal
GrahamS
Bikething x 2
Mayfly x 2
Wayland
British Red
FastCelt
Wildrover
Angus Og
Aliwren
Lurch
Glen
Gill
skint
I hope this does go ahead.
It's a great piece of kit that is sure to be highly desirable when people see a few of them in use.
I can't believe there's so little interest with winter coming up.
i was hoping these would fly out and warrent a second group buy, i'm skint after paying for an underblanket :(
British Red
06-09-2007, 20:16
I hope to get a full photo shoot done over the next few days work permitting. I have the sample right now and its a cracking bit of kit - well worth the money
Red
Graham_S
06-09-2007, 20:25
The Quilt is a fantastic piece of kit, I can't recommend it enough. I've field tested it over several weekends and found it easy to use, warm, and light.
I actually packed it in the assembled hammock system in a dry bag. All I had to do was pull a tape out of the bag and string it up. My complete sleeping system (hammock,underblanket, mossie net, quilt) set up by tieing two knots.
The dry bag has a valve for removing the air so it compacts down very nicely to fit the inside of my rucksack without leaving dead space.
fishaben
06-09-2007, 20:29
go on then dad, I'll have one as well. After all your begging, (lol, only joking) can use it for fishing.> (any carp anglers out there, these will be great for summer, especially to get out of at night when you hear that magic run) < Cheers dad,
OETZI
Neanderthal
GrahamS
Bikething x 2
Mayfly x 2
Wayland
British Red
FastCelt
Wildrover
Angus Og
Aliwren
Lurch
Glen
Gill
skint
fishaben
Son (Ben):)
Silverback
06-09-2007, 20:35
I have found that since getting the underblanket I only ever use the sleeping bag as a make do quilt so I am seriously hoping this goes ahead. C'mon folks if you are genuinely interested make yourselves known :)
OETZI
Neanderthal
GrahamS
Bikething x 2
Mayfly x 2
Wayland
British Red
FastCelt
Wildrover
Angus Og
Aliwren
Lurch
Glen
Gill
skint
Silverback
fishaben
06-09-2007, 20:45
silverback, you seem to have knocked me off the list mate ??
Ben
bikething
06-09-2007, 20:53
quick, before he comes back ;)
OETZI
Neanderthal
GrahamS
Bikething x 2
Mayfly x 2
Wayland
British Red
FastCelt
Wildrover
Angus Og
Aliwren
Lurch
Glen
Gill
skint
fishaben
Silverback
fishaben
06-09-2007, 21:26
cheers Steve.
Ben
wanderinstar
06-09-2007, 22:07
Only one more then we hit the magic 20. It will stop then for sure.
Ben, don't you want an underblanket as well. Suppose we might be able to increase your pocket money to 5and 6 a week.:D
Silverback
06-09-2007, 22:35
silverback, you seem to have knocked me off the list mate ??
BenOops allow me to explain :o I cut and pasted the latest list at the time of composing my post. Whilst composing said post fishaben added himself to the list thus producing an updated list which I was blissfully unaware of as the post was added whilst still composing mine
Hi Ian. Stick my name down for number 20 please fella :rolleyes: .
OETZI
Neanderthal
GrahamS
Bikething x 2
Mayfly x 2
Wayland
British Red
FastCelt
Wildrover
Angus Og
Aliwren
Lurch
Glen
Gill
skint
fishaben
Silverback
Toots.
Looks like that's a runner then....:D
British Red
07-09-2007, 13:24
I've just slung the full Magikelly and wanderinstar hammock system and done loads of photographs. Its fair to say that the underbalnket and quilt combined make a HUGE difference to the usability of the hammock system in terms of both warmth and convenience (that quilt is makes getting in and out a 2 second job :D).
I'll do a write up and host all the pictures over the weekend. Suffice it to day that you really must get one of these if you have a hammock - seriously!
Red
I had a big conversation with Ratbag the other night on alternative ways of hanging the whole sleeping system with a minimum of knots and faff. It seems we have come up with, in theory, a good way of hanging the whole thing up with only two contact points, one on each tree. I believe part of the idea was discovered by somebody else, but the way I was doing it before left me with about six lashing points for the whole system! Two for the tarp, a further two for the line underneath for mozzie net, etc and then two loops around the tree for either end of the hammock. Way too many knots!
British Red
07-09-2007, 14:40
I must admit, I suspend the moz net from the ridge line of the tarp (but then I run my arp line under the tarp)
I look forward to seeing your system spam
Red
British Red
07-09-2007, 15:02
Well, as an extract of the full pictorial of rigging an entire sleep system, this is me trying not to completely disappear into a warm green cocoon for photographic reasons
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1276/1341956504_46438a46fe_o.jpg
The quilt is just a superb piece of kit - combined with the underblanket, it makes getting into and out of a hammock for sleeping a 10 second job rather than a 5 minute blood pressure raising affair. the foot bucket is great - feet in first, tuck the quilt round your sides with the panels - instantly toasty warm. Nipping out for a shovel recce at night or to water the bracken will no longer be a cause for tears!
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1288/1341953398_131247cf51_o.jpg
If you have a hammock - get a quilt and an underblanket. No reservations, no ifs, no buts, no maybe. Your comfort in many, many ways is assured.
Full pictorial here:
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=322213#post32 2213
Red
twisted firestarter
07-09-2007, 17:17
I have been watching the post with interest but can't seem to find any
reference to the warmth/season rating of the group buy quilt.
There are several comments that it's toasty and warm but then again it's still summer!
I would be really interested in joining the list if I thought it would keep me toasty in the
winter months. Does anyone who has tried the quilt want to speculate on what rating it is?
Thanks.
Can't give you a definitive answer on that but the insulation seems to be about the same as the underblanket which has kept me warm in sub zero conditions. :dunno:
British Red
07-09-2007, 17:31
T-F,
I would suggest that its at least as warm as my Nanok 0 and almost certainly as warm as my -10. To be honest, you only need a central covering when enclosed (read cocooned) by the underblanket.
I would be happy to use the system in snow
Red
twisted firestarter
07-09-2007, 17:59
Thanks Wayland and Red ;)
OETZI
Neanderthal
GrahamS
Bikething x 2
Mayfly x 2
Wayland
British Red
FastCelt
Wildrover
Angus Og
Aliwren
Lurch
Glen
Gill
skint
fishaben
Silverback
Toots.
Twisted Firestarter
Humpback
07-09-2007, 18:13
Please add me to the groupbuy
OETZI
Neanderthal
GrahamS
Bikething x 2
Mayfly x 2
Wayland
British Red
FastCelt
Wildrover
Angus Og
Aliwren
Lurch
Glen
Gill
skint
fishaben
Silverback
Toots.
Twisted Firestarter
Humpback
wanderinstar
07-09-2007, 18:17
Well, we HAVE got over the magic 20. let's hope it stays that way.
The Quilt is made from exactly the same materials as the blanket and uses Softee 9 insulation which Snugpak tell me is good to -10deg. Hope that answers your question, if not get back to me.
Well, we HAVE got over the magic 20. let's hope it stays that way.
The Quilt is made from exactly the same materials as the blanket and uses Softee 9 insulation which Snugpak tell me is good to -10deg. Hope that answers your question, if not get back to me.
Not forgetting that added to that there's 1 or 2 layers of hammock material undeneath and up the sides, plus the overquilt won't be "stretched" in quite the same way that most sleeping bags are.
Personally I figure if there's any chance of being around 0degC I'm going to be sleeping in various levels of cold weather clothing anyway, as I might need to briefly get up at some point, so it should be enough for anything British weather is likely to throw my way.
So when do we get them then.....:red: :red: :red: :red: :red: :red: :red: :red: :red: :red: :red:...;)
wanderinstar
07-09-2007, 19:35
OK then it looks like it IS going to be a goer.
If you all can confirm your order by PM and let me have your Name and Address, I will reply with PP details. ( Prepares for onslaught)::D
Ian.
fast celt
07-09-2007, 20:27
Paypal sent
Thanks for running the buy:beerchug:
British Red
07-09-2007, 20:42
PP sent
Cheers WS - its a great item
Red
wanderinstar
07-09-2007, 20:57
Phew!!
List so far.
Neanderthal
GrahamS
Bikething x 2 PAID
Mayfly x 2
Wayland PAID
British Red PAID
Fast Celt PAID
Wildrover
Angus Og PAID
Aliwren PAID
Lurch
Glen
gill
OETZI
skint PAID
Fishaben
Silverback
Toots
Twisted Firestarter PAID
Humpback
Philliplomax PAID
Brian PAID
Can I have one as well please :D
Neanderthal
GrahamS
Bikething x 2
Mayfly x 2
Wayland
British Red PAID
Fast Celt PAID
Wildrover
Angus Og
Aliwren
Lurch
Glen
gill
OETZI
skint
Fishaben
Silverback
Toots
Twisted Firestarter
Humpback
Brian
PP sent - many thanks for arranging all of this!
PP Sent.
Thanks for all your work on this Ian
wanderinstar
08-09-2007, 10:05
AS I HOPE YOU WILL ALL UNDERSTAND, RUNNING 2 GROUPBUYS AT THE SAME TIME CAN BE RATHER CONFUSING. SO IF YOU HAVE PAID AND IT DOESN'T SHOW ON LIST PLEASE GIVE ME A GENTLE NUDGE. Thought the Underblanket would have been finished before the Quilt took off.
twisted firestarter
08-09-2007, 10:23
PM and PP sent this morning
Can't wait :red: :red: :red: :red:
PM and PP sent mate, :You_Rock_
Thanks,
Brian
Silverback
09-09-2007, 14:17
PP sent - thanks for all your your efforts. Were it not for excellent kit such as the underblanket and now this quilt I would have abandoned hammock camping and gone back to the ground :You_Rock_
wanderinstar
09-09-2007, 14:20
Neanderthal
GrahamS PAID
Bikething x 2 PAID
Mayfly x 2
Wayland PAID
British Red PAID
Fast Celt PAID
Wildrover
Angus Og PAID
Aliwren PAID
Lurch
Glen
gill
OETZI
skint PAID
Fishaben
Silverback PAID
Toots
Twisted Firestarter PAID
Humpback
Philliplomax PAID
Brian PAID
Snudz PAID
Neanderthal
GrahamS
Bikething x 2 PAID
Mayfly x 2
Wayland PAID
British Red PAID
Fast Celt PAID
Wildrover
Angus Og PAID
Aliwren PAID
Lurch
Glen
gill
OETZI
skint PAID
Fishaben
Silverback PAID
Toots
Twisted Firestarter PAID
Humpback
Philliplomax PAID
Brian PAID
snudz
PP sent for this too.
Andy.
I am still in, but havent received a PP yet.
15min later: my fault, mailed you.
thingswelike
10-09-2007, 11:53
Is there still time to get in on both group buys?
I don't really have the money, but you've got me scared talking about it being the last one :)
thingswelike
I haven't added myself to the list because I didn't want to perhaps post out-of-date PAID info.
Cheers
Alex
If this IS to be the last buy then I will have to break myself and get a couple methinks,if thats still possible?
wanderinstar
10-09-2007, 20:12
Clem, this is the Quilt thread. It is the blanket thread that is the last one. So which do you want.
Ian.
Clem, this is the Quilt thread. It is the blanket thread that is the last one. So which do you want.
Ian.:o Oops sorry mate,its the Quilt that I want.I take it there will be another quilt group buy then???
British Red
10-09-2007, 20:30
I get the impression that there will only be another buy for either when Satan calls and asks to go on the reserve list since its a fairly cold day in Hell ;)
wanderinstar
10-09-2007, 21:42
Hmmmm.......
Present list is as follows.
Neanderthal
GrahamS PAID
Bikething x 2 PAID
Mayfly x 2 PAID
Wayland PAID
British Red PAID
Fast Celt PAID
Angus Og PAID
Aliwren PAID
Lurch PAID
Glen PAID
gill
OETZI
skint PAID
Fishaben
Silverback PAID
Toots PAID
Twisted Firestarter PAID
Humpback PAID
Philliplomax PAID
Brian PAID
snudz PAID
thingswelike PAID
Karl5 PAID
Porcupine PAID
Clem
chas brookes PAID
wildrover
11-09-2007, 00:24
Ian,
I'd be grateful if you could take me off the list.
I can't justify the expense at the mo.
sorry.:(
Thanks for all your trouble.
Money sent via the miracle of paypal!! Thanks Ian:beerchug:
hi dont now this works but il have one
Humpback
11-09-2007, 23:58
Ian
Got the PM. Just Paypal'd. (You can take my name out of the window now!)
Alan
chas brookes
14-09-2007, 21:10
Hi Ian
sorry for pm had forgot I had already asked for one, second pm on way for pp details
wanderinstar
14-09-2007, 22:04
Latest list.
Neanderthal PAID
GrahamS PAID
Bikething x 2 PAID
Mayfly x 2 PAID
Wayland PAID
British Red PAID
Fast Celt PAID
Angus Og PAID
Aliwren PAID
Lurch PAID
Glen PAID
OETZI PAID
skint PAID
Fishaben PAID
Silverback PAID
Toots PAID
Twisted Firestarter PAID
Humpback PAID
Philliplomax PAID
Brian PAID
snudz PAID
thingswelike PAID
Karl5 PAID
Porcupine PAID
Clem PAID
chas brookes PAID
Graham_S
16-09-2007, 21:03
C'mon Gill, Neanderthal, and Clem, Pay up so we can all get our quilts!
I've got bushcrafting to do, and it's not been the same since I had to pass the prototype on to BR
;)
wanderinstar
16-09-2007, 21:16
Graham, Clem is sorted, I think Stuart must be away as he hasn't been on for about 2 weeks.
Gill I don't know about as I PM'd him a couple of days ago and I haven't heard from him yet,: Even though he has been online today.:confused:
British Red
16-09-2007, 21:24
I would give them a deadline for when you will put the order in Ian - save you waiting forever. Maybe another week or something?
Red
twisted firestarter
16-09-2007, 22:18
Burn Them :D
Neanderthal
18-09-2007, 21:10
$orry to have been holding things up folks. :o
Typical, things creep along for ages then everything happens when I'm on holiday.
Ian, PM sent.
Stu
Neanderthal
20-09-2007, 16:45
OK, I've paid up.
Stu
Treeclipper
20-09-2007, 21:33
oops thought this was for an underblanket , silly me
wanderinstar
24-09-2007, 20:44
Everybody now paid up on here as well. Thank you.
If no one minds I will put order in for Quilts as soon as blankets have been collected. Two reasons for that, firstly I only have a Morris Minor and 60 blankets and quilts just will not fit in and secondly I dont want to get items to get mixed up.
If anyone else wants one, and can pay immediately with Paypal, now is the time to speak up.
I would like one. pm with name and addy is on its way to you. Reply with the paypal details and i will pay it straight away
WoodMonkey
26-09-2007, 09:31
Hi
Just spotted this superb group buy. Could I please purchase 2 underblankets and 2 quilts please.
Please PM and I will pay for the lot via paypal by return, same day
Please email total cost.
Many thanks for all your effort !! Nice one !!
Wood Monkey
WoodMonkey
27-09-2007, 11:37
Paid up !!! Great stuff
:You_Rock_
Many thanks
Derek
wanderinstar
07-10-2007, 09:16
Will most likely be closing this Group Buy next week, as soon as the final underblankets go.
Ian.
Sounds great.
I have a couple of outings coming up that it could be useful for....:D
Ian, PM sent hope i am not to late!
Adam.
wanderinstar
07-10-2007, 21:42
No, you are not too late Adam. PM sent. You still at same address?
British Red
07-10-2007, 21:46
Any idea when these will go out Ian? No rush just wondered when your post office would hate you again ;)
Red
wanderinstar
07-10-2007, 22:10
Well, if I put order in end of this week.It normally takes about 2-3 weeks to make . So somewhere in region of 4 weeks.
The way they are shutting Post Offices, I think they are starting to welcome me with open arms.
wanderinstar
10-10-2007, 22:05
Right I am closing this Group Buy tomorrow night. As you may have seen on Underblanket buy http://www.woodlandedge.co.uk/ are taking over selling the blanket and the quilt. Will put the order in Friday morning.
Thank you all for your orders.
British Red
10-10-2007, 22:48
Ian, let me be the first to thank you for your stirling work in looking after us all on the group buys and to congratulate you in seeing your design become a commercial product.
Group buys are hard work and cost the organiser time and to some extent money. Your efforts are appreciated
Red
congratulate you in seeing your design become a commercial product <snip> your efforts are appreciated
Hear, hear!
DITTO!
THANKS IAN, STERLING WORK.
:You_Rock_ :You_Rock_
wanderinstar
13-10-2007, 20:48
Thank you all for your kind words. Order has now gone in and will be about 2weeks to complete.
I cannot be the only one who cannot wait to try these out,I am all excited :)
wanderinstar
27-10-2007, 07:34
Patience is a virtue, or so I am told. Still waiting for the word from Snugpak.
Patience is a virtue, or so I am told. Still waiting for the word from Snugpak.
Sorry Ian no offence intended matey!:o
...thank you for your stirling work in looking after us all on the group buys and to congratulate you in seeing your design become a commercial product.
Group buys are hard work and cost the organiser time and to some extent money. Your efforts are appreciated...
Ditto!!!
Thanks Ian, I truly appreaciate this!
/ Karl
wanderinstar
31-10-2007, 18:27
I have been in touch with Snugpak this morning re delivery date. They are waiting for a delivery of the inner sand material due to problems with their supplier. It should be delivered tomorrow and quilts should be ready for next w/end. So fingers crossed. I had been hoping to pick them up this afternoon, I'm going out this w/end. Will have to use sleeping bag again as Ben now has the prototype and he won't let me use it. The swine.:)
Awesome, getting excited now!
Thanks for the update mate.
Thanks for the update mate. Seconded Ian mate:You_Rock_
Graham_S
07-11-2007, 21:48
any more updates?
not wanting to be pushy, just interested.
OT,
tell Ben to share or pay rent ;)
wanderinstar
07-11-2007, 22:06
Well Graham. They rang me up with a query this afternoon and they should be ready midweek. So if I can collect them Weds afternoon hopefully I may be able to get some away Weds. S orry it has taken so long this time.
He will be paying board soon.
Neanderthal
12-11-2007, 19:26
Looks like the weather is getting ready to test the quilts out. It was cold here this morning. :)
Stu
wanderinstar
12-11-2007, 19:48
You have all been very patient. Thank you. I suppose that with the Underblanket buys reaching No5 things started to run like clockwork. IIRC the first one took a bit of sorting out.
After all that, good news, heard from Snugpak today and they are ready. So I will pick them up on Weds, all being well. Hopefully they won't need repacking so I should be able to get most of them out Weds.
For anyone who has missed this group buy, blankets and quilts will be available from Woodland Edge.
Graham_S
14-11-2007, 12:51
Well done Ian, With any luck it'll get to me in time for the meet this weekend.
If not, I'll have it for middlewood at the end of the month.
If you are going to Middlewood Ian save yourself the postage and bring it with you.
wanderinstar
14-11-2007, 14:53
Will do Gary. If anyone else is going to Middlewood and wants me to bring theirs, just let me know. Have sent PM's to all concerned, I think.
WoodMonkey
14-11-2007, 15:42
Hi Ian
Used the under blankets on Saturday night and they really worked a treat, The temperature was not to cold out and if anything I was well cooked :D with underblanket neatly attached.
They will certaniley extend the seasons for comfortable hammock use, and with the quilts on the way, I might sell my bed !!!
Thanks again for all your hard work :You_Rock_
Woodmonkey
wanderinstar
14-11-2007, 17:21
That is 24 taken to Post Office. They will go off tomorrow morning. Will do rest on Saturday morning.
Stuart yours is one of them.
Ian :You_Rock_ :You_Rock_ :You_Rock_
Great news thanks for the update and also arranging all of this! :You_Rock_
British Red
16-11-2007, 11:16
Safely received Ian, thank you!
Wow the sand inside and embroidery really makes it look very posh :D
Stunning work fellah
Red
Got mine this morning too!
Cheers Ian mate.
Humpback
16-11-2007, 13:27
Ian
Mine was waiting at work for me today. I shall be trying this and the underblanket out very soon - can't wait.
I would like to record my thanks for your hard work on both of these group buys. You must be grey haired!
Best regards
Alan
Got mine today. Great bit of kit. Many thanks.
chas brookes
16-11-2007, 14:02
Hi Ian
mine arrived safely today thanks for all your work in organising this
:) :You_Rock_ :) :You_Rock_
Got mine today,many thanks Ian and very much appreciated :)
Neanderthal
16-11-2007, 16:06
Got mine this Morning. :D
Off to play out this weekend. :D
Stu
WoodMonkey
16-11-2007, 17:19
Arrived this morning safely. :red:
Well designed and great quality. Nice colours and neat stuff sack. Looking forward to putting it in action,
The quilt combined with my underblanket will make me one cosy Bushcrafter :D
Many thanks Ian, for all your hard work. :You_Rock_
Woodmonkey
Hi Wanderinstar.
Mine has arrived. I like the quilts colours and the black stuff sack. Good to be able tell the quilt from the underblanket.
Thank you again for ALL your hard work.:D :D
I'm also 5orry to see that your expectations re the proposed 'Winter Moot' have not come to pass. I'm sure that you will have a good time anyway!
Cheers from Swyn.
Silverback
16-11-2007, 18:32
Mine arrived safe and sound - very impressed with the design and quality. Many thanks once again for all your selfless efforts!
wanderinstar
16-11-2007, 21:10
Swyn,
You may know more than I re Winter Moot. We haven't heard anything from Tony about it. He did say a while ago that he wanted a Northern Winter Moot this year. But so far as I know no one has heard anything about it. Think we have all thought that we are above "Watford Gap" and therefore out of the equation.
I for one will be seriously thinking about renewing membership when it comes up for renewal.
Glad you got your Quilt OK though, and thank you everyone else for informing me you have yours.
Angus Og
16-11-2007, 21:39
Got mine this morning,
Many thanks.
Picked mine up from the post office when I got back from watching my baby girl being born :D
Looks great, like the colours and good manufacture as usual, all in all I'm very pleased with today.
Thanks for all your effort sorting out the group buys
Brian
A squidgy package awaits my collection tomorrow. Hopefully it will see its first action next weekend at a charcoal burn.
Many thanks Ian for organising this (and the underblanket too.)
Andy
wanderinstar
17-11-2007, 06:34
Picked mine up from the post office when I got back from watching my baby girl being born :D
Looks great, like the colours and good manufacture as usual, all in all I'm very pleased with today.
Thanks for all your effort sorting out the group buys
Brian
Which looks great, your new addition or the quilt:) Congratulations Brian and of course Mrs Brian.
fast celt
17-11-2007, 10:23
Mine arived Friday, top class gear, nice one :You_Rock_ :You_Rock_
And thanks agian for all the effort put into this group buy.:You_Rock_ :You_Rock_ :D
Collected mine from the mail depot this morning.
Thanks for all the effort in designing it and organising the group buy.
Safe and sound. Thanks Ian. Will test it out in sunny Scotland in a week or so!
Mine arrived safely thank you.