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den
16-06-2004, 01:47
Hello all
I don’t know if this has been covered before.
Has anybody made hooks for coarse fishing from natural materials? If so can you spread a bit of light on the subject? Also are there any laws concerning this?
Cheers
Den

leon-1
16-06-2004, 03:57
Den, I don't know for sure, but try here http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/ , if anyone is likely to know they probably will :-D

den
16-06-2004, 12:35
Cheers leon-1

den
19-06-2004, 00:29
Any body got any pics of natural hooks?
Den :-D

Ed
19-06-2004, 11:07
Jamie made a lovely Nootka fishing hook while on a course earlier this year. I'm sure we can get him to post a pic... he should be proud of it....

:-)
Ed

den
07-07-2004, 02:32
Come on Jamie show us your pic :-D

RovingArcher
07-07-2004, 02:43
I havn't made up any hooks, but this site can shed some light on materials used and configurations. History of the hook (http://www.mustad.no/abouthooks/h_history.php)

Ed
07-07-2004, 02:56
Good little article :biggthump

:-)
Ed

Jamie
07-07-2004, 08:28
Hi all

Sorry, this thread had passed me by - I wasnt ignoring it honest!!!!!!

Well, if you really want to see the nootka, here it is:

http://www.woodlandorganics.com/bcuk/nootka1.jpg
http://www.woodlandorganics.com/bcuk/nootka2.jpg

They are relatively simple hooks to make, just quite fiddly.

Ed
07-07-2004, 13:58
Cheers for posting that jamie, great hook .... now how about a 'how to make one' ;-)

Ed

leon-1
07-07-2004, 15:45
Jamie, that is beautifull work :respekt: , how long did it take to make the Nootka and have you used it yet :icon_ques

TheViking
07-07-2004, 16:44
Hi....

What about this??? - :
http://schoolcentral.com/Discussion/PacificSalmon/NativeFishTools.jpg
Or:
http://www.aircav.net/survival/asch08/fig8-17.gif

Jamie
07-07-2004, 18:44
thank you for your kind words! :oops:

as to how long it took, with prep etc it probably took about 2 or 3 hours as I fluffed the first carving and had to start again

i havent used it yet....just waiting for an invite from Roving Rich to come and help paddle his homemade canoe!

i will try to think of a way to put it down in words, but may struggle.....how about a nootka show at the meetup????

den
07-07-2004, 20:32
Thank all for your replies

Nice hook Jamie

I’ve made a few hooks of that design and found it quite hard getting the size down to take coarse (smaller ones) fish. I replaced the root for nettle fibre and used a sloe thorn for the point sealed with a bit of pine pitch. I got them down to the size of a finger nail. I’ll sort a camera soon so I can post them.

The problem is as Jamie mentioned, they are fiddly and trying to make one small enough to target the smaller fish is a hard job. Was this done once upon a time? Or were they just netted?


Any other info you have on using natural materials would be appreciated

No I have not used the coarse hooks yet. I made some bigger ones last year for using on the coast which worked ok. (Mackerel around a wreck)

Cheers
Den

Ed
08-07-2004, 01:37
Was this done once upon a time? Or were they just netted?
I would guess it would depend on their situation. Remember using a rod, hook and line (or hand-line) is a very inefficiant way to fish.... if it was your main source of food for your family you would probably not eat very well compared to a family using a net.... many traditional peoples used hooks and lines to fish to 'supplement' their already existing food supply gained from domesticated animals and agriculture....

The most lovely examples of neolithic fishing hooks I've seen (in the british museum) have been made out of bone and tooth ivory.... I have a few cattle teeth dotted around... I may just give it a go :-)

:-)
Ed

den
08-07-2004, 10:43
Go on Ed give it a go. :icon_smil It would be great to hear how you got on.

I’ve thought about making a hook from a tooth (canine) a few times but have been put off by its hardness and size. (Small)

Do you know any techniques for working tooth ivory?