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Greg
07-03-2007, 20:30
I am just looking for interest at the moment, and was wondering if anybody would be interested in a group buy for an 'Ultimate Survival - Sabercut Pocket chainsaw'.

I haven't got prices yet as I said I am just looking to see if your at all interested first before doing the business end of the buy!

Draven
07-03-2007, 22:46
I might be interested, depending on the price. Things are a bit tight at the moment (have to buy a whole lot of new tools :rolleyes: ) but if you'd be willing to PM me a guestimate I should be able to say whether I'm in or out :D

Greg
07-03-2007, 23:19
I might be interested, depending on the price. Things are a bit tight at the moment (have to buy a whole lot of new tools :rolleyes: ) but if you'd be willing to PM me a guestimate I should be able to say whether I'm in or out :D

I'll let you know if I get enough interest.
Cheers

EdS
07-03-2007, 23:24
depending on price I might be interested as well.

Zammo
08-03-2007, 10:17
I am just looking for interest at the moment, and was wondering if anybody would be interested in a group buy for an 'Ultimate Survival - Sabercut Pocket chainsaw'.

I haven't got prices yet as I said I am just looking to see if your at all interested first before doing the business end of the buy!


How about a picture or link?

loz.
08-03-2007, 10:26
Not interested in a buy - thanks for offering, but i did find some very bad video clips whist googling your offer !


would you buy this dvd ? :-) (http://www.lifeviewoutdoors.com)

Spikey DaPikey
08-03-2007, 11:06
How about a picture or link?

I think this is the saw on offer :)

http://ee33.co.uk/uploads/images_products_large/317.jpg

Greg
08-03-2007, 12:32
I think this is the saw on offer :)

http://ee33.co.uk/uploads/images_products_large/317.jpg

Thats the one!:)

Apac
08-03-2007, 14:02
id be intrested if u can get a good price.

FoxyRick
08-03-2007, 20:52
Another tentative yes, price depending. I've just bought the version in a round tin, but this looks better.

Rick.

Caleb
08-03-2007, 20:57
interested but again depends on price

Klenchblaize
08-03-2007, 21:08
This looks a fine piece of kit indeed but surely something one’s Guide would carry given the arm movement required to operate? :lmao:

Or put another way I’m sure Ray Mears would ensure issue to one or more members of his ever-helpful bushcrafting Gurkers so why not you!

Cheers!

Greg
09-03-2007, 12:32
This looks a fine piece of kit indeed but surely something one’s Guide would carry given the arm movement required to operate? :lmao:

Or put another way I’m sure Ray Mears would ensure issue to one or more members of his ever-helpful bushcrafting Gurkers so why not you!

Cheers!

If only we all had our own troop of eager ghurkas!:D

Come on guys we need more interest than this!!:rolleyes:

Exbomz
09-03-2007, 13:20
Really does depend on price. Can you give any guesstimate?

I have been thinking of getting one but the price of them varies so much e.g. http://outdoorcode.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=5 48 and http://outdoorcode.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=5 47

The picture of the one shown looks really good - I've not seen that model before (and I like the look of pouch it comes in).

I may well be interested.

Cheers

Greg
09-03-2007, 13:31
Really does depend on price. Can you give any guesstimate?

I have been thinking of getting one but the price of them varies so much e.g. http://outdoorcode.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=5 48 and http://outdoorcode.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=5 47

The picture of the one shown looks really good - I've not seen that model before (and I like the look of pouch it comes in).

I may well be interested.

Cheers

To buy one individually they are about £20.
I am waiting for my contact to get back to me after speaking to the suppliers.

JFW
09-03-2007, 13:36
Greg,

I am interested in possible group by for this.

Cheers

JFW

schwuk
09-03-2007, 13:48
As others - interested dependent on price.

JohnC
09-03-2007, 13:49
price dependant, I'd be interested

weekender
10-03-2007, 21:46
saw(no pun intended) rappleby using this very thing, very effective piece of kit looked well made, depending on price i might be interested.

gunnix
10-03-2007, 23:16
Dependant on price.. I've always been interested in getting such a saw since I first saw them...

Greg
11-03-2007, 20:58
Ok guys the interets looks good I will speak to the supplier on Tuesday when I finish work. ( I work shifts,2 days + 2 nights) I get off my lastnight shift on Tuesday am.)

I will get back to you ASAP.

Cheers.:)

Greg
11-03-2007, 23:41
While you wait for me to get the price info have a look at this:

http://outdoors-magazine.com/s_article.php?id_article=146:)

Don Redondo
11-03-2007, 23:50
sorry, but I prefer my Husqy ;)

godfather
12-03-2007, 14:36
price dependant, I'd be interested too.

Godfather

Torak
12-03-2007, 14:47
As with others depending on price I would be interested.

saffy
12-03-2007, 15:57
watching thread with interest

Garnett
12-03-2007, 16:10
Oooo. They look cool. I'm interested too.

Butchd
12-03-2007, 16:21
Put me down as interested as well, thanks

Mountain Man
12-03-2007, 19:41
I am interested in buying one dependant on the price.

Green Arrow
12-03-2007, 23:44
I would be interested dependent on price
thanks

nigelp
12-03-2007, 23:47
yes please!

RAPPLEBY2000
13-03-2007, 01:46
i have one already, i've used one for about 2 years, you can't beat it!

if you hold it next to a chain saw you'll see the chain is identical except some of the teeth are turned round.

i have cut through many logs and branches in some cases faster than a bow saw and much faster and cleaner than chopping!

all of this and you can sharpen it too just like a normal chain saw blade!

i got mine for free from a friend, they are fantastic!

RAPPLEBY2000
13-03-2007, 02:07
this is a 16" replacement chainsaw blade
http://www.toolbank.com/products/full/22983.jpg
look at the shapes on the outside of the chain(the inside has triangular teeth that run over the working parts)

close up it looks like this
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:-RvdiDQ6LX4-1M:http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/303382/2/istockphoto_303382_chainsaw_bl ade.jpg

http://www.equipped.com/graphics/scteeth_sm.jpg
this is one of the sabercut teeth!

the actual cutting teeth are identical! :D



ONE NOTE OF CAUTION!
(i've been trained in tree felling so it would be unethical for me not to say this!)

the one down side of using any wire or chain type cutting tool is that because of the way you use it (i.e. pulling towards you) you tend to always be in the danger area (i.e. where something will drop on to you), safe practice would say you are always away from the falling/dropping side!

best advice from me is find out how to fell a tree/branch properly before you experiment!

take care, have fun, and don't kill too many trees!

Greg
13-03-2007, 02:30
OK Guys it looks like we have plenty of interest, I am working on it at the moment hopefully it won't be too long before I finalise a deal with the supplier!:D

beachlover
13-03-2007, 10:01
Stick me on the list too please. :)
I had one ages ago and regretted selling it almost immediately I let it go.

Spikey DaPikey
13-03-2007, 13:04
Intrested depending on price :)

Shankly
13-03-2007, 14:33
Oh go on then - put me on the list as well....

spamel
13-03-2007, 16:26
I made my own from a Makita chainsaw chain!! It works a treat, I haven't felled any trees as that isn't the way I do things, but I've cut downed trees for fire wood and it ripped through the wood like there was no tomorrow. I used a dremel to remove two links of the chain by grinding off the pins, this gave me two useable lengths of chain and I put paracord through the holes where the pins were linking the chain together. I just wrap the paracord around two sticks I find on site to form handles and cut away.

If I was at home, I'd post pictures, it wraps up and fits into an old plastic shoe polish tin!

saffy
13-03-2007, 16:33
I made my own from a Makita chainsaw chain!! It works a treat

Does it cut on both strokes or just one? As the hand one has cutting edges in both directions making it efficient to use.

spamel
13-03-2007, 16:39
I don't think it cut quite so well on the return stroke, but it still does the job and quickly too. Of course, an actual chainsaw chain will be designed to cut in one direction only!!

Boxy
13-03-2007, 17:24
Go on then, add me to the list too,

I can't resist new toys.

soa_uk
13-03-2007, 18:09
+1 for cutting driftwood on the beach...
[I use the electric chainsaw for cutting logs for the wood-burner]

ilan
13-03-2007, 21:55
Hi please let me know when you get the price

gunnix
14-03-2007, 10:22
I made my own from a Makita chainsaw chain!! It works a treat, I haven't felled any trees as that isn't the way I do things, but I've cut downed trees for fire wood and it ripped through the wood like there was no tomorrow. I used a dremel to remove two links of the chain by grinding off the pins, this gave me two useable lengths of chain and I put paracord through the holes where the pins were linking the chain together. I just wrap the paracord around two sticks I find on site to form handles and cut away.

If I was at home, I'd post pictures, it wraps up and fits into an old plastic shoe polish tin!

Brilliant! Would be nice to compare an actual pocket chainsaw and the one you got.

At what price can you get a chain for a chainsaw? Or can you easily find an old one?

spamel
14-03-2007, 11:49
Brilliant! Would be nice to compare an actual pocket chainsaw and the one you got.

At what price can you get a chain for a chainsaw? Or can you easily find an old one?

Not too sure, I got a spare one from the stores, so it didn't cost me a penny!!

saffy
14-03-2007, 14:08
Brilliant! Would be nice to compare an actual pocket chainsaw and the one you got.

At what price can you get a chain for a chainsaw? Or can you easily find an old one?

Spare Chainsaw Chain seems to sell from specialists at around £1.15 per inch (14inch being one of the smallest lengths up to 48inch one of the largest). They cut in one direction and therefore on paper are half as efficient (an important factor in survival situations) as the dedicated hand chainsaw which cuts on both strokes.

Does anyone know if its possible to pop and replace individual the chain links like some cycle chain? Then will it be possible to reverse every other cutting edge of standard chainsaw and make it by-directional?

Myself, for prices <= £20.00 I would get the pocket chainsaw instead of messing around.

Exbomz
14-03-2007, 16:30
Hi Greg

You can add me onto the firm yes list.

Cheers

BushTucker
14-03-2007, 16:49
Me too please, can I pay with paypal??

soa_uk
16-03-2007, 16:09
Any news on pricing for these? Looks a bit like this one (http://outdoorcode.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_52&products_id=547) that Andrew's knocking out for around £17.00

[I'm a pillock! Greg said he'd speak on Tuesday. Sorry]

MagiKelly
16-03-2007, 16:55
Put me down as a maybe :rolleyes:

Greg
16-03-2007, 17:24
Firstly Let me apologize for not getting back to you sooner, but to stop this thread going any longer I have just found out from my surplus supplier that the company that makes these saws went into liquidation 2-3 weeks ago so unfortunately I can't get hold of these saws now.

Again I'm sorry for wasting your time, some shops are still selling the last of their stocks by all account so if you do still want one do a search on Google for 'Sabercut Saw' and you will find a few shops on line selling them - They shouldn't cost you more than £20 + P&P.

If there is a Moderator reading this can you please remove this thread after 7 days so everyone who is waiting has a chance to get this message, thankyou.

chas brookes
16-03-2007, 19:46
Hi All
those that are interested Warehouse Express still appear to have them in stock
link below, enter "saw" in search box and click on ultimate survival link

http://www.warehouseexpress.com/index.cfm?welcome.html

Chas

Exbomz
22-03-2007, 15:02
Ah, 'fraid not, I have just found out they are out of stock :rolleyes:

Garnett
22-03-2007, 16:09
What a shame!

Thanks for looking in to this anyway Greg.

I wonder whether an groupbuy a couple of months ago would have been enough to help keep them on their feet...

Seemed like they had a good product there.

Just out of interest what was the name of the company?

Eric_Methven
06-04-2007, 16:14
Spare Chainsaw Chain seems to sell from specialists at around £1.15 per inch (14inch being one of the smallest lengths up to 48inch one of the largest). They cut in one direction and therefore on paper are half as efficient (an important factor in survival situations) as the dedicated hand chainsaw which cuts on both strokes.

Does anyone know if its possible to pop and replace individual the chain links like some cycle chain? Then will it be possible to reverse every other cutting edge of standard chainsaw and make it by-directional?

Myself, for prices <= £20.00 I would get the pocket chainsaw instead of messing around.

You can buy individual chain links in boxes to make up your own chains. Anyone who sells Husky or Stihl chainsaws should have them. With a proper chainsaw you have cutting teeth every couple of inches with dummy links in between. Using the DIY method, you can have every link a cutting link, reversing alternate links to cut on both strokes. Because every link cuts, you can rip through wood much faster than if you are using an old chainsaw chain.

Eric

Greg
06-04-2007, 23:15
My supplier is in talks with the new owners of the Ultimate Survival brand, things are looking good but nothing will happen for at least a month so watch this space if your interested!:D

gunnix
13-04-2007, 20:40
Cool I'll keep an eye on this topic :)

Greg
12-09-2007, 19:56
OK guys, I know its been a while but my local supplier has just found a source for a very similar pocket chainsaw in fact its almost identical, these I can get at £12 + P&P(probably about £2.00 at the most).
Before I post any pictures I will put the one I picked up today through its paces this w/end at the S.Wales meet if it works as it should I will then let you know to get this group buy on its feet again.

Dougster
12-09-2007, 20:04
I'll 'help' try it out mate! I'm interested in one for a branch a little awkwardly placed at one of my favourite spots.

Greg
12-09-2007, 20:06
I'll 'help' try it out mate! I'm interested in one for a branch a little awkwardly placed at one of my favourite spots.

No problem mate it needs to be put through its paces before I make the final decision of putting it up for the group buy!:cool:

saffy
12-09-2007, 21:16
Can take me off the old interested list as I bought one from ebay. Since then I have seen the British army version which is leaps and bounds better than the pocket chainsaw and would recommend people source one of those instead. Here is an MOD one (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HAND-LOG-SAW-EX-BRITISH-ARMY-SURPLUS-STOCK-CHAIN-SAW_W0QQitemZ260153250547QQihZ 016QQcategoryZ36077QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem).

Greg
12-09-2007, 23:25
Can take me off the old interested list as I bought one from ebay. Since then I have seen the British army version which is leaps and bounds better than the pocket chainsaw and would recommend people source one of those instead. Here is an MOD one (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HAND-LOG-SAW-EX-BRITISH-ARMY-SURPLUS-STOCK-CHAIN-SAW_W0QQitemZ260153250547QQihZ 016QQcategoryZ36077QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem).

You are probably right saffy about how decent your one is! But there's one problem, where can you get your hands on enough of these for a group buy? The Sabercut Saw is a very good pocket chainsaw and once I and others have tested the saw that I have (which is almost identical) this w/end we will be able to give the guys & girls on this forum a proper insight into it's worth and whether or not it is good enough and worth the cost for a group buy, so I would appreciate it if you would try and not undermine my efforts!

saffy
13-09-2007, 07:16
so I would appreciate it if you would try and not undermine my efforts!

Before you go off throwing dummy any more, you misread what I wrote and my intentions were not to pee on your group buy bonefire.
It *was* the sabercut chainsaw that I purchased off ebay from bankrupt stock after the last group buy effort went belly up. It's an okay, cheap emergency use tool.
What I said was I have SINCE SEEN the British army saw (of a friends). It is indeed much more durable, fit for purpose and makes the other look and feel like a toy, if there is a downside then it the fact it is larger than the sabercut and wraps into a much less compact circle. Both types are still pigs to use and take good deal of effort. I know which one will take the most abuse.
That ebay seller I linked has listed those army saws many times one after the other (check feedback) so he must have a supply of them. The "guys & girls" may now have an alternative if they wish to be individuals.
Cheers

Greg
13-09-2007, 08:52
I wasn't throwing the dummy mate!
Your right to give everyone a different choice, maybe you should have put the saw down as your own thread.
Then there wouldn't have been any crossover !
Anyway enough of that I have just sent the seller of the MOD version a question to see whether or not they have enough for a group buy and if so how much they would cost inc P&P. Because as rightly stated they do look alot tougher! So watch this space.


Before you go off throwing dummy any more, you misread what I wrote and my intentions were not to pee on your group buy bonefire.
It *was* the sabercut chainsaw that I purchased off ebay from bankrupt stock after the last group buy effort went belly up. It's an okay, cheap emergency use tool.
What I said was I have SINCE SEEN the British army saw (of a friends). It is indeed much more durable, fit for purpose and makes the other look and feel like a toy, if there is a downside then it the fact it is larger than the sabercut and wraps into a much less compact circle. Both types are still pigs to use and take good deal of effort. I know which one will take the most abuse.
That ebay seller I linked has listed those army saws many times one after the other (check feedback) so he must have a supply of them. The "guys & girls" may now have an alternative if they wish to be individuals.
Cheers

Greg
13-09-2007, 15:37
OK I humbly stand corrected, I have just been contacted by the seller of the MOD pocket chainsaw that saffy showed us.
He can give us 20 saws at £10each I will then have to add the P&P which should be know more than £2.00

So please can I have a concensus from you as to which one you would prefer.

Either the Sabercut style saw which will be tested this w/end for £12 + P&P
or
The MoD Pocket Chainsaw for £10 + P&P, which I know nothing about but Saffy believes are better.

gunnix
14-09-2007, 22:32
I already got the pocket chainsaw from the internet but I'm interested in maybe getting another one as many people got interested in this kind of saw...

http://www.equipped.com/saws.htm The pocket chainsaw vs the sabercut chainsaw (to make clear which one i got)