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Bjorn Victor
27-02-2007, 21:37
To all you trangia lovers:
I know that you are all wild about the Swedish military trangia, but I was wondering what you cook in it? Is it just for heating water for tea or do you actually cook a meal in it (what?)?
Also, the swedish army has a stove (the trangia) especially made for them. Do other armies have stoves made for them too? Like a US army MSR stove?
And finally, was (is?) the stove basic issued to all swedish soldiers? Or just some units? And how did (do?) they transport it? In a pouch in the backpack?
Thanks,
Bjorn
what the hell is a US army MSR stove? I know MSR stove, but one from the army?
Silverback
27-02-2007, 22:01
I think Bjorn meant this as a made up example of what another stove dedicated to a military organisation might be called :)
Bjorn,
I have to confess my cullinery skills starts and ends with rehydrating or reheating food maybe extending to stews on occasions. I think the SA trangia is ideal for this and has the additional benefit of being able to cook over a fire without the burner because of the billy. Anytyhing more I would tend to use the civilian version.
As for army cooksets, when I was 'in' (around 1980) Brits were issued throwaway Hexamine or Esbit stoves in 24 hour ration packs.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c269/prmaklpboo/HEXI-STOVE-NEWa.jpg
By the way, I've just tried this with a crusader mug and civilian trangia burner and it all works well together.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c269/prmaklpboo/DSCN0207.jpg
I really can't remember any others or know any modern versions but I'm sure someone will put me right.
Pablo
Bjorn Victor
27-02-2007, 22:14
I think Bjorn meant this as a made up example of what another stove dedicated to a military organisation might be called :)
yes. It is a made up example. Sorry if it was confusing... :o
Bjorn Victor
27-02-2007, 22:17
Cool set up Pablo. I like it.
I guess I'm like you. I use a stove for rehydrating food and hot water for coffee or tea.
I have to say that for longer treks, I usually take my primus omnifuel with me. A 2 week trek with a steel trangia and methanol for 2 weeks would be a bit heavy I think...
The Finnish Army use these I'm told (next time somebody says "Trangia's don't work in the cold" show them that picture)
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j188/rik_uk4/th_trangiastoves.jpg (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j188/rik_uk4/trangiastoves.jpg)
same as these
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Optimus-T91Purple-Flame-Stove-Trangia-Type_W0QQitemZ270093025330QQih Z017QQcategoryZ19296QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
(I've no connection to the seller)
I like the SA Trangia's but they are only really for one person, so I stick to the Trangia 27 or larger 25; if you drill a couple of holes in the real Trangia pans you can rig a handle from wire (coat hanger works) and use the pots over an open fire
The Americans have used all sorts of stoves, from these (again no connection to the seller), which are fantastic
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Optimus-111-Hiker-multi-fuel-runs-great_W0QQitemZ190086192185QQi hZ009QQcategoryZ87136QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem
To the Optimus 199 Ranger stove, the 8R, and of course Coleman stoves
I know that you are all wild about the Swedish military trangia, but I was wondering what you cook in it? Is it just for heating water for tea or do you actually cook a meal in it (what?)?
I've used the SA Trangias, but I prefer the civilian version.
As for food, the usual - water (for brews, rice, noodles, pasta, cous cous etc.); beans; pasta'n'sauce; sausage, bacon and eggs (the joys of having a frying pan on the civilian model! :)); and of course bannock.
Although the SA is smaller, I'd rather have the flexibility of my civilian one.
oldsoldier
28-02-2007, 01:42
The US army had, at one point, a stove that went with the HMMWVs. I am not sure what type of stove it was, as I've never seen it, but there is a place for it to clamp inside the hood. However, they experienced several "rapid fuel expansion issues", and stopped issuing the stoves. To the best of my knowledge, no soldier is issued a stove, as the MRE's come with a heating device. We did, however, use esbit stoves quite extensively, as we could get the hexamine tabs by the crateload. Couldnt light them at night though...light discipline & all that.
To all you trangia lovers:
I know that you are all wild about the Swedish military trangia, but I was wondering what you cook in it? Is it just for heating water for tea or do you actually cook a meal in it (what?)?
Also, the swedish army has a stove (the trangia) especially made for them. Do other armies have stoves made for them too? Like a US army MSR stove?
And finally, was (is?) the stove basic issued to all swedish soldiers? Or just some units? And how did (do?) they transport it? In a pouch in the backpack?
Thanks,
Bjorn
I'll be honest with you, I have an old trangia 27, I have the Swedish Military verion and I have a clickstand. Nowadays I use the clickstand more than anything else if I use a stove, on rare occasions I use a gas stove.
I use it for everything as far as cooking is concerned and when there is more than just me I have an open fire and the trangia to get food ready.
To all you trangia lovers:
I know that you are all wild about the Swedish military trangia, but I was wondering what you cook in it? Is it just for heating water for tea or do you actually cook a meal in it (what?)?- Beans mixed with hot dog, mushrooms and soya sauce
- Tinned rice pudding with strawberry jam or honey
- Tin beef chunks + tin of potatoes
- Hot dogs in Heinz "big" soup
- Beanfeast (soya beans) + pasta spirals cooked together with a little chilli powder
I used to eat "Hunger Breaks" mixed meals in a tin but they changed the recipie last year and now they leave a nasty aftertaste.
Plus coffee, but not at the same time :lmao:
big_swede
28-02-2007, 08:40
The Finnish Army use these I'm told (next time somebody says "Trangia's don't work in the cold" show them that picture)
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j188/rik_uk4/th_trangiastoves.jpg (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j188/rik_uk4/trangiastoves.jpg)
same as these
That picture shows swedish soldiers, or at least all their kit is swedish.
@Bjorn Victor
The SA stoves is supplied to all 'regular' units, e.g. the infantry and armoured units. The more specialised combat units (like the cavalry (rangers) and the marine infantry) units get's another version, like the one on the above picture, supplied by rik_uk3. It's kind of similar to the civvy trangia but smaller. The arctic rangers have been experimenting with multifuelstoves. All stoves gets carried in a backpack, except a minitrangia which is carried in a buttpack on the survival vests of the arctc rangers and the paratroopers. When I was in service the infantry guys on a regiment we visited still had the SA stove.
I use the SA stove, a civvy trangia or a multifuel stove depending on the situation. But I cook on stoves only where you aren't allowed to make a fire. This weekend I did a bulgur pilaff with steak and gravy, hashbrowns and bacon, and scones for tea. None of that was from dehydrated packs :D
yes, Swedish soldiers on training with meth. spirits powered Optimus No. 88 "Jägarkök" (Ranger stove) - I don´t see a reason why the Swedish defence forces would publish a pic of Finnish soldiers .... :D
That stove is still available as Optimus No.91 "Tor"
I´ve seem the Finnish army using standard Trangias
Esbit stoves were issued to the German army during WWII, a SVEA 123 clone made by Barthel (and others) was also issued
Other armies also had specially made stoves - the best source for information is www.spiritburner.com
The latest in stove technology is probably the MSR liquid fuel stove with a ceramic pump element. The civi version was introduced on outdoor exibitions a while ago, I haven´t seen one in the stores so far
To all you trangia lovers:
I know that you are all wild about the Swedish military trangia, but I was wondering what you cook in it? Is it just for heating water for tea or do you actually cook a meal in it (what?)?
Also, the swedish army has a stove (the trangia) especially made for them. Do other armies have stoves made for them too? Like a US army MSR stove?
And finally, was (is?) the stove basic issued to all swedish soldiers? Or just some units? And how did (do?) they transport it? In a pouch in the backpack?
Thanks,
Bjorn
I’ve got a trangia clone (£10 from eBay) and the things you can cook on it is limited only by your imagination. Ok I’ve never baked bread or a pie. But I have cooked (from scratch) stew and dumplings, pea and ham soup, full English breakfast, rice, steamed fish, mushrooms and liver. If you can get hold of one, a bamboo steamer is a great partner to the trangia, as you can boil a couple of litres of water for brews and the like, and at the same time cook your evening meal.
Steamed monkfish with ginger and spring onions, served with steamed white cabbage and black pepper, takes seven minutes from the water starting to boil to filling your face.
Wavey Davey
28-02-2007, 21:14
Tadpole. You're a man after my own heart. My Trangia highlights include a very French globe artichoke starter followed by a moules mariniere main, with several bottles of champagne whilst camping near Epernay. Also had a memorable ratatoulli with pasta to accompany foil-baked bass and black bream done with lemon and wild fennel on an instant bbq whilst in Southwold one year.
Cheers, David.
Tadpole. You're a man after my own heart. My Trangia highlights include a very French globe artichoke starter followed by a moules mariniere main, with several bottles of champagne whilst camping near Epernay. Also had a memorable ratatoulli with pasta to accompany foil-baked bass and black bream done with lemon and wild fennel on an instant bbq whilst in Southwold one year.
Cheers, David.
My grandfather used to tell me " if you'm roughin it lad, you'm doin it wrong" and I see no need to "rough it" with food.
Pasta with tomato and pesto, or spaghetti bolognaise, even ravioli is possible without resorting to tins and dehydrated food. 500grams of dried pasta, some tomatoes in olive oil, frozen Mincemeat, (it should have defrosted by the time you come to use it,) some fresh Parmigiano-Reggiano (not the horrid powered stuff the fresh hard cheese from Aldi £1.60p for a couple of ounces) and you are set up for at least four meals
Ok it takes about an hour on simmer, but who’s in a rush?
I gave up trying to use a Trangia in the wintertime ages ago. I think when it took nearly twenty minutes to melt a single pot of snow I came to my senses and went back to an MSR stove for winter trips.
Trangia's are definately three season stoves, in my opinion.
Adam
I use my trangia for baking bread, homemade pasta (wheat flour, water, salt) requires less time compared to ready made stuff from the supermarket: boiling time is 1min and not 7-8min. ;)
Melting snow on an alc. stove is no real problem - like every other stove it needs just a bit more fuel
on the british trangias, u can cook spag bol and other pasta based food and can run on both meths and gas other thing it is very heavy but very gd, couple of weeks ago me and some m8s used one when in hampshire and are very gd.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c269/prmaklpboo/DSCN0207.jpg
Hey Pablo, there is an adaptor for the crusader, it is a thin sheet of steel with the same shape as the crusader cut out and the edges bent over to give it rigidity. It stows over the hexi cooker perfectly and means you can put your cooker up without having to resort to the angled set up of the legs. They come as standard these days with the cooker and the hexi fuel all wrapped up in that brown waterproof paper.
Whe the crusader sits in the adaptor, the bottom of the cup pokes through and the cup is suspended at its mid point by virtue of the fact that the top part is wider. The cup therefore sits close to the hexi and gets very well heated.
If you want one of them, I'll have a look when I get back sausage side and send you one across, it will make your life so much easier if you use hexi cookers a lot.
Just noticed aswell that you are using a trangia burner unit, I tried this and the only downside I could find was stowage space. I cut the bottom of the hexi cooker so that the burner unit sat in it, and when I stowed it away, it pokes out lid first so only the lid part is exposed. I didn't take to it, but the idea is there!
I gave up trying to use a Trangia in the wintertime ages ago. I think when it took nearly twenty minutes to melt a single pot of snow I came to my senses and went back to an MSR stove for winter trips.
Trangia's are definately three season stoves, in my opinion.
Adam
You should be able to mount an MSR in a civvy Trangia, as I and others have using a Nova, now thats a snow melter setup :cool:
or you get the winter pre-heater set
or you take a tea candle
or fill the aluminum cover from a tea candle with alc.
etc.
again lots of imagination & inspiration:
in the coldest environment keep the entire stove & pot combo at body temperature
insulate the windshield
put a lid (with center hole) on the windshield
preheat the preheater (as in Japanese Racing Stoves :cool: )
....
Btw. stove jets, pumps and valves don´t fail in winter?
Ever tried to fix a problem of that kind at temperatures way below freezing point?
Note: I´m just stove crazy and in no way affiliated to Trangia or any other stove manufacturer
Another stove collector on the forum :) That makes three of us that I know of :cool:
only 3, that´s very strange - there should be many more since real men need to have a fire no matter where they are going
Hopefully we´re not an endangerd species :rolleyes:
Scots_Charles_River
18-03-2007, 13:56
I have just test cooked a bannock bun on the SA Trangia. Worked a treat as the design of the burner has an enclosed area so kept the current snow flurries out.
Looks like I'm gonna ditch the gas burner as it's not as flexible as the SA trangia.
Nick
Dunno if I am a collector, how many stoves do you need before you qualify?!!
I've got a Nova plus, Civi Trangia and SA Trangia, an old coleman peak stove somewhere and the obligiatory hexi, including a french version somewhere although I think I've used the fuel tablets from that one.
Am I in??
:D
British Red
18-03-2007, 15:27
Gotta try this with my hex stove and a spare trangia burner - looks like a great compromise cooking arrangement for day walks!
Red
....but what about the wind???
All it takes is two but more is better like 100 or more i lost count :) :)
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d52/oops62/th_shopstoves-1.jpg (http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d52/oops62/?action=view¤t=shopstoves-1.flv)
All it takes is two but more is better like 100 or more i lost count :) :)
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d52/oops62/th_shopstoves-1.jpg (http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d52/oops62/?action=view¤t=shopstoves-1.flv)
Your right about that Robert, after the first two you are hooked. I thought I'd cut right down this last year, but recent counts and checking uder the stairs, in boxes, and my lock up, shows I've still around 50+. I want to get down to about 20 stoves, half of them 'users' and half for display (saying that, I just picked up another Army No.12 :rolleyes: )
got a few US army foil wrap for a cup bit knacked now but was only for one of use anyway with MREs and a Canadian Mug with reversable stove
was rooting today in a old box of stuff and found about 40 in the wrapper as new Hexi stoves :rolleyes: as well as my old Epigas Micro (cut down :eek: ) and many peak spares. Probably a few more in the loft and im sure i had a crate of Hexi block in the garage some where :confused:
have never liked Trangias personnally but thats just me
ATB
Duncan
Tor helge
19-03-2007, 08:47
I gave up trying to use a Trangia in the wintertime ages ago. I think when it took nearly twenty minutes to melt a single pot of snow I came to my senses and went back to an MSR stove for winter trips.
Trangia's are definately three season stoves, in my opinion.
Adam
I second that. I had an old trangia and used it on a winter hunting trip years ago.
Never have the coffe water taken so long to boil.
The norwegian army uses the Optimus 111. Each team were issued 2 of them.
I also use this stove in winter and the Optimus Nova the rest of the year.
Tor
British Red
19-03-2007, 09:31
....but what about the wind???
I try to stay out of the wind wnhen brewing up, but if its very windy, I usually shield the stove with my pack and where I'm sitting etc.
Given the square shape I reckon a collapsible wind shield would be easy enough to rig if thats your thing
Red
I second that. I had an old trangia and used it on a winter hunting trip years ago.
Never have the coffe water taken so long to boil.
The norwegian army uses the Optimus 111. Each team were issued 2 of them.
I also use this stove in winter and the Optimus Nova the rest of the year.
Tor
Tor, I bought two of the Norwegian Army 111's, new in box, fantastic stoves, and 111's are still used in the Antarctic by the Australians
http://www.aad.gov.au/default.asp?casid=1383
I have the full range of 111's now, kerosene, petrol and multifuel, they are all great cookers. I love the Nova (mounted in a Trangia in the winter), but the 111's are very easy to maintain (the Ranger 199 is also very good for solo trips)
demographic
19-03-2007, 22:54
Hey Pablo, there is an adaptor for the crusader, it is a thin sheet of steel with the same shape as the crusader cut out and the edges bent over to give it rigidity. It stows over the hexi cooker perfectly and means you can put your cooker up without having to resort to the angled set up of the legs. They come as standard these days with the cooker and the hexi fuel all wrapped up in that brown waterproof paper.
Whe the crusader sits in the adaptor, the bottom of the cup pokes through and the cup is suspended at its mid point by virtue of the fact that the top part is wider. The cup therefore sits close to the hexi and gets very well heated.
If you want one of them, I'll have a look when I get back sausage side and send you one across, it will make your life so much easier if you use hexi cookers a lot.
I have one of those kicking around in my van, with the adapter plate thing, shame I don't have the crusader though.
Not that I am short of cooking kit to be honest, with two mini Trangias, one hexi stove amd one swedish army trangia..
Oh and a petrol Svea 123R.
Oh and a petrol Svea 123R.
:) :) :) Hang on to it, they stopped making them about a year ago, and used prices are on the up and up
Keep a look out for one of these, not cheap, but the cookset designed for the 123 takes the stove to a whole new level of cooking :cool:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Svea-123-stove-and-Stainless-Sigg-Tourist-Cookset_W0QQitemZ160096119915Q QcategoryZ87136QQssPageNameZWD VWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Meth. have always been difficult to use in the winter. Modern versions of the Trangia are prepared to use with either propane or petrol (holes drilled in the lower windshield). So, it´s not Trangia to be blamed if it doesn´t work in the winter. It´s the burner. But if you choose to use an petrolburner use pots in stainless steel. The ones which is delivered (alu) might melt.
Question: Is Trangia synonymous with meth. stoves for english spoken? As already mentioned, swedish rangers use a mess kit from Optimus No. 88 (meth.). Sometimes they have used Trangia arctic (Trangia equipped with an kerosene burner http://www2.ess.slu.se/peterask/fri/Kok/Arctic/Main.htm). The ordinary infantry mess kit is,
(http://www.surplusandadventure.com/ishop/800/shopscr2661.html)
as far as i know, not manufactured by Trangia. But if anyone has got proof Trangia do (or did) manufacture them.... /Swede :)
if ur eva stuck for a tasty and filling meal try this
instant noodles / pasta / rice
a few packs of instant soup
tin or 2 of tuna / meat of some kind and possibly a tin of veggies
its great coz its so simple, tasty and u can vairy it alot depeding on the soup or meat.
only prob is that it need 2 pans, but it works fine if there is 2 of u, which is what i usualuy do
me and my friend both hav mini trangia's and we love 'em
hope this helps
tp
demographic
25-03-2007, 01:26
:) :) :) Hang on to it, they stopped making them about a year ago, and used prices are on the up and up
Keep a look out for one of these, not cheap, but the cookset designed for the 123 takes the stove to a whole new level of cooking :cool:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Svea-123-stove-and-Stainless-Sigg-Tourist-Cookset_W0QQitemZ160096119915Q QcategoryZ87136QQssPageNameZWD VWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Not flogging it anytime soon, anyway it has the aluminium windshield already but didn't have any pots when I bought it.
That kit you showed is the best stuff for em as far as I know but I have yet to find the stainless pots for it.
Kept us cooking when Carlisle flooded and there was no electricity at our house for a few days and even burnt the premix that I had spare from my motocrosser :)
I just know someone will mention coleman fuel but have you tried getting it when all the shops are shut and you can't get out of town cos of the floods?
Meth. have always been difficult to use in the winter. Modern versions of the Trangia are prepared to use with either propane or petrol (holes drilled in the lower windshield). So, it´s not Trangia to be blamed if it doesn´t work in the winter. It´s the burner. But if you choose to use an petrolburner use pots in stainless steel. The ones which is delivered (alu) might melt.
Question: Is Trangia synonymous with meth. stoves for english spoken?
today it´is probably like that. People tend to forget, otherwise they´d remember Marris (Brandname Sirram) and others.
As already mentioned, swedish rangers use a mess kit from Optimus No. 88 (meth.). Sometimes they have used Trangia arctic (Trangia equipped with an kerosene burner http://www2.ess.slu.se/peterask/fri/Kok/Arctic/Main.htm). The ordinary infantry mess kit is,
(http://www.surplusandadventure.com/ishop/800/shopscr2661.html)
as far as i know, not manufactured by Trangia. But if anyone has got proof Trangia do (or did) manufacture them.... /Swede :)
yes, Trangia made (makes ?) parts for the army. The name is stamped in the bottom of the burner (which is bigger and heavier compared to a standard burner). Trust me, as a stove collector I´ve got army sets made by SVEA and Trangia.
Not flogging it anytime soon, anyway it has the aluminium windshield already but didn't have any pots when I bought it.
That kit you showed is the best stuff for em as far as I know but I have yet to find the stainless pots for it.
Kept us cooking when Carlisle flooded and there was no electricity at our house for a few days and even burnt the premix that I had spare from my motocrosser :)
I just know someone will mention coleman fuel but have you tried getting it when all the shops are shut and you can't get out of town cos of the floods?
I don't use Coleman fuel now, I buy 5 litre tins of Panel Wipe from a local motor spares shop, it just the same stuff as Coleman, but cost between £8 and £12 (depends on the store you go to) for a 5 litre tin :) 5 litres of Coleman is about £50 I believe :eek:
I have a serious stove and lamp collecting addiction (under control now, honest it is), and just won't pay for Coleman when a good substitute is available
yes, Trangia made (makes ?) parts for the army. The name is stamped in the bottom of the burner (which is bigger and heavier compared to a standard burner). Trust me, as a stove collector I´ve got army sets made by SVEA and Trangia.
Ok, I´ve seen the stamp "three crowns" NC 64 SVEA underneath the burner (which is bigger than the standard Trangia). But you find the same burner in the swedish ranger version of mess kit (Optimus No. 88)? I´ve got two versions of the standard infantry mess kit, one in aluminium with a stamp "three crowns" and 5294 inside the frying pan. The pot has a stamp outside which says "three crowns" and 5200. The other one in stainless steel has a stamp in the pot which says "PRESSBOLAGET ESKILSTUNA" (first word is the name of the manufacturer and the second is a town in Sweden) and none in the frying pan. There is nothing that says that Trangia has made neither of them. I´m not arguing with you to make you angry, I´m just curious. Please, if you have a version that can prove Trangia used to make them, show me a picture or anything else. I´ve got friends who wants to know. I bet you got a big collection. Regards. /Swede :)
The Aluminium pots in a 25 or 27 won't melt when you use a petrol/kerosene burner with the Trangia, don't know who dreamt up that notion, unless you let the pans run dry :rolleyes:
I've had a lot of the Swedish Trangia's (to be frank, not to use, but to trade) and to be honest most of the burners are SVEA, I thought I had one with a Trangia stamped burner, but on checking, it was a civvie burner and not original.
Svea made good stoves, I have a few old pressure cookers from them, really well engineered bits of kit, they will out last a Nova/MSR/Omnifuel without doubt, and like all the old stoves, are easy to maintain.
The first two were new old stock when I had them (used now of course) but the last is from 1933, and works just fine :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/rik_uk3/th_111-3Medium.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/rik_uk3/111-3Medium.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/rik_uk3/th_DSCF0508Small.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/rik_uk3/DSCF0508Small.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/rik_uk3/th_1933PRIMUS221.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/rik_uk3/1933PRIMUS221.jpg)
Not SVEA, just good cookers ;)
The Aluminium pots in a 25 or 27 won't melt when you use a petrol/kerosene burner with the Trangia, don't know who dreamt up that notion, unless you let the pans run dry :rolleyes:
Ok, it must have been a mirage when I saw it happen recently. And it seems that people I´ve heard telling me the same have had the same illusion. :headbang: /Swede
British Red
26-03-2007, 22:34
Just noticed aswell that you are using a trangia burner unit, I tried this and the only downside I could find was stowage space. I cut the bottom of the hexi cooker so that the burner unit sat in it, and when I stowed it away, it pokes out lid first so only the lid part is exposed. I didn't take to it, but the idea is there!
Interesting that Spam. Just tried a hexi cooker with a crusader cut out and Trangia burner. Because the mug sits IN the cut out, mine fouled the top of the burner..I'd reckon it must have been pretty close even with the cut out?
I did think I'd cracked the "pocketable cooker" arrangement there...back to the Hexi blocks :(
Ok look close on the left need to cut some more holes put rod the hold cup up then a trangia will work or any alcohol stove on the right turn over for a bigger pot no rods i hope i said it right as the picture shows
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d52/oops62/th_crusstove.jpg (http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d52/oops62/crusstove.jpg)
I got this reply from Trangia (question: if they ever manufactured anything for the swedish defence)
Från: Trangia AB <info@trangia.se>
Skickat: den 28 mars 2007 07:12:23
Till: swede
Ämne: Re: Trangia gjort kök till försvaret?
Hej,
Trangia har inte tillverkat snuskburken, däremot tillverkade vi på 1970-talet en spritbrännare modell större till försvaret som ibland användes tillsammans med snuskburken.
Med vänlig hälsning/Best regards
Lilian Jonsson
Trangia AB
Box 5
SE-830 47 TRÅNGSVIKEN
Tel. +46 640 681330
Fax +46 640 681339
E-mail: info@trangia.se
Internet: www.trangia.se
Translation:
Hi,
Trangia has not manufactured snuskburken (infantry mess kit m/40), but we did manufacture a meth burner in the 1970's bigger than the common model for the armed forces which sometimes was used together with the mess kit m/40.
Best regards
Lilian Jonsson
today it´is probably like that. People tend to forget, otherwise they´d remember Marris (Brandname Sirram) and others.
yes, Trangia made (makes ?) parts for the army. The name is stamped in the bottom of the burner (which is bigger and heavier compared to a standard burner). Trust me, as a stove collector I´ve got army sets made by SVEA and Trangia.
I´m eager to see your collection. Maybe you have the whole lot in pics? Especially the army sets made by Trangia. /Swede :)
your information is correct, "Trangia" is stamped on the burner only. Pardon me if I confused the forum members. :o :(
Set 1.
windshield:
3 crown symbol (3 c.s.)
NC 67
SVEA
pot:
Gense
burner:
3 c.s.
Trangia ( different from the current logo, it has a similiar type of letters as you find in the "Ford" Motor Company symbol)
fuel flask:
3 c.s.
Rödsprit
Mycket
Brandfarlig
Giftig
(on the bottom) Mellerud
66-04
Set 2:
windshield:
3 c.s.
NC 70
SVEA
pot:
17 Gense Cr.
burner:
3 c.s.
NC 70
SVEA
fuel flask:
3 c.s.
Sprit 35
Mycket
Brandfarligt
Vadligt
färligt att förtära
(on the bottom) manufacturer symbol
813057
both pot/pan sts are made out of stainless steel (M 40 as in www.soldf.com/enmanskok.html - which in turn shows pics of the aluminum version ). Both sets do not show evidence of use, of couse it´s possible that parts of the sets could have been mixed since it´s been ~ 30 yrs. ago that they´ve been made. One never knows what has happened in such a long period. Maybe Trangia supplied burners to existing sets...
Interesting seems the different stamping on the pots ( 17 Gense Cr. / Gense) and the different informations on the fuel flasks (Brandfarlig / Brandfarligt).