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Hi all, I cycle to almost everywhere I camp and im wondering if others cycle too? What do u ride and carry your kit in? any particular kit you take or use in the bush?
Troyka
PJMCBear
28-02-2007, 12:00
Certainly do, but not that often.
I ride a P2000 hybrid, fitted with front and rear panniers. Luggage is a mix of Ortlieb and Agu packs, and the HH in it's snake skins is wrapped around the tube.
The only additional kit I take when on the bike is:
3in1 Oil
2 x spare tubes
Small tool kit
1 spare brake cable
Puncture repair kit
Lock cable
Long Stride
28-02-2007, 20:05
I don't drive so cycle to work everyday ( for the past 12 years )
Ride a Specialised Hardrock.
Have thought about taking the bike out but prefer walking.
I can go places that the bike can't.
Ride a Specialised Hardrock.
wow thats great i have the same bike that i use for work never lets me down but im with you and prefer to walk
:D :D :D
i ride almost everywhere i need to go, i like walking but the bike is alot faster, i dont have any panniers or anything i just wear a rucksack loaded with my kit, but i normally go with a mate so we share the load
leon
My bike is a Gt aggressor" cheap and its great for everday road use and single track*its also very light* i ride that to work/friends/shops/casual rides in the woods etc
im saving for a chunkier bike i can throw around on the weekend.
bikes are great they should replace cars im all for chuckle brothers cars :cool:
Peter Pan
01-03-2007, 00:14
My current bike is a Dawes Horizon tourer with rear panier and drop handle bars. I have cycled all over Europe camping, The threads I have read on here have opened my eyes to some alternative kit that one can use such as a basha over a tent, which saves alot of space.and weight. The freedom that a bike gives is great meaning I can travel longer distances than walking and in a quicker time though the down side is the bike restricts where you can go. Saying that I met a couple of guys last summer who cycled the full length of the Chiltern Way camping as they went. My typical set up is as follows, depending on length of trip
Basha/bivi depending on time of year. Sometimes a one man tent.
sleeping bag.
Clothes. I work on a three layer sytem, base layer, outerlayer and waterproof coat/trousers.
Gas stove. In France all farmers that I have asked allow fires for cooking.
Billy can set.
Metal mug fitted on to an old 58 Battern waterbottle
Spoon
Swiss Army knife
bike repair kit and spare inner tube.
army ration packs.
Very basic but enough to do the job
Hi all, I cycle to almost everywhere I camp and im wondering if others cycle too?
is it possible to use other means of transport? Didn´t know that
What do u ride and carry your kit in?
steel frame mtb, 24 real gears (8 very close ratio gears with LL, L and M range), Magura HS33 hydraulic rim brakes, Schwalbe Marathon XR tires, modified Bob Yak trailer
any particular kit you take or use in the bush?
modified high quality standard tools (dont like those mini-universal-compromise things), couple of spare parts (brake pads, patch kit, zip ties, piece of wire, couple of nuts&bolts etc.)
kitchen gear: Trangia T27 (modified for baking) with titanium pots, duossal pan and 0.6l tea kettle, pot cozy, 1pt. Kelly Kettle
Tent, sleeping bag, cloth
if possible organic food from farmers markets
No electronic stuff like cell phone, GPS - not even a speedo on the bike
Trangia T27 (modified for baking)
How is it modified?
im just about to buy a new Specialised Hardrock, and im still searching for a front pannier rack. as i cant get all my stuff in the rear bags...
Saunders a satellite pro tent
Sleeping bag/ self inflating mat
Normally gas powered stove (TriStar)
Small tool kit
Inner tube / repair kit
Clothes
Canon dslr 350 + kit
First aid
And a bunch of other things…
im wondering how u guys who prefer to walk get to the venue? do u drive? or walk from your house? as i say i cycle almost everywhere, i do sometimes put my stuff on a train and cycle to and from the sations..
cyclist
what mods have you done to the trailer?
I have a home made trailer I got from a guy just outside bath made from old bikes and has a flat bed. Big enough to carry 2 of those collapsible crates
baking is possible on every stove (it´s only low heat nessesary, better be careful with high performance jet engines if you want to avoid eating pure coal), just put a plate or small pot with the food you wanna have baked in a bigger pot, put lid on bigger pot and adjust the temperature. You could also fill a little water in the bigger pot and "steam bake". Some training is essential for good results
Coleman offers a heavy oven (about 3kg), one could also use a dutch oven (or a Bedourie, it´s spun cousin from Downunder)
www.imrisk.com/woodgas/baking.htm
http://zenstoves.net/LinksCooking.htm click "baking" for further infos
bigger wheel (20" replaces 16") with fat 60mm tire on Bob Yak gives some kind of semi suspension, before it was jumpimg a lot at higher speeds with light load
bent-stick
01-03-2007, 15:01
I ride a specialised crossroads.
It's been down the tissington trail and roud the Pas de Calais. More mundanely I use it every day I go into the office to ride it to the station.
When I go to Holland I hire a omafiets and buy some cheap saddle bag style panniers which I empty some of my pack into.
I can get all my camping stuff in 2 Karrimor panniers on the back rack.
It also used to take part in the annual pub crawl arranged by the Petoerborough branch of CAMRA...Good job it knows the way home
havingagiraffe
01-03-2007, 16:31
My sister's selling this cycle trailer now her sons have outgrown it. It's a really clever bit of kit. The whole thing's held together with cotter pins and quick release clamps and folds down without using any tools. It carries loads of stuff and you don't really notice it once you're up to speed on the flat...uphill's a different story... :o I think it's advertised in the local newsagent's window for £40. PM me if you fancy it.
http://i2.tinypic.com/2nizf37.jpg
i got myself a cape wrah bu claud butler in the end, the shop gave me a deal i couldnt say no 2... they fitted a rack and a handlebar mod to raise my riding position, so im a very happy bunny....
Risclean
09-03-2007, 00:14
I have a Specialised Rockhopper, they're nice bikes. I've never used it for camping but if I did I would probably get a BOB Yak (http://www.bikemagic.com/review/reviewproduct/mps/RPN/3893/prod/Bob-Yak-Bob-Yak-luggage-trailer/RCN/0/rgn//v/1/sp/) trailer, though they are expensive.
no, Yaks are not expensive.
Those trailers are basic and reliable - for going on rough terrain I´d take the Ibex. The manufacturer
www.bobgear.com
offers an excellent service worldwide.
The Yak has been copied by some companies, none of those clones offers a fraction of the price-to-value relation a Yak does.
If you´re really want to spend some extra money go and get a Monoporter
www.weber-technik.de
and if that doesn´t meet your demands a Chela mobile home www.koga.com >Collection 2007 >>Trekking
for sure will do.
If you think you don´t want to haul such a heavy item as a trailer just take a Wheele
www.wheele.biz
The above mentioned trailers are real trailers (no problem carrying bulky items like beverage crates etc.) while devices like the Extrawheel
www.extrawheel.com
is just a wheeled pannier bracket
Here is another
http://www.carryfreedom.com/Y-Frame.html
while your at carryfreedom check out the bambo trailer
http://www.carryfreedom.com/bamboo.html
while your at carryfreedom check out the bambo trailer
http://www.carryfreedom.com/bamboo.html
Wonderful link troyka. I've requested a copy of the plans so that my Scouts can have a go at building one.
havingagiraffe
09-03-2007, 16:11
while your at carryfreedom check out the bambo trailer
http://www.carryfreedom.com/bamboo.html
Outstanding link Troyka. :) I hope this catches on in parts of the world where bikes are still used as commercial vehicles....it might delay them using fossil fuelled vehicles like us Westerners... :o
no, Yaks are not expensive.
Thanks for the excellent links Cyclist. I never realised there were so many cycle trailers available. The best price I can find for a basic Yak in the UK is £250. Not ridiculously expensive, but still too much to be left unattended. Having said that, I think my bike's so distinctive with the trailer attached that it's probably less likely to be stolen by a casual thief.
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I think my sister's trailer has simplest hitch - you can't really see from the photo, but it consists of a heavy duty spring linking the cycle's frame and the trailer's drawbar which allows the trailer to flex in any direction. It's backed up with a steel cable which will allow the trailer to be safely towed even if the main hitch fails. The hitches seen on the other trailers look needlessly complex and heavy, although the ones which pivot behind the wheel rather than at the centre of the wheel do allow equal turning in both directions.
while your at carryfreedom check out the bambo trailer
http://www.carryfreedom.com/bamboo.html
I'd missed that, thanks for pointing it out.
Here is another
http://www.carryfreedom.com/Y-Frame.html
a design that shows the beauty of simplicity - you could even have it with air-suspension: if you mount low inflated big fat tires like Schwalbe Big Apple. Those tires do not increase rolling resistance.
Unfortunately I´m one of those who ride a bike fast where a 2wheeler would tipp
and I ride my bike on single trails where a 2wheeler would not fit the road.
For me it was out of question to get a YAK - it´s on duty since 2001 and still going strong. I don´t have a car.
Yes, there are lots (hundreds to be precise) of trailers, one & two wheelers of all sorts - unfortunately the BoB COZmopolitan is no longer available. Maybe the coming Volcanic will fill that gap.
The hitches seen on the other trailers look needlessly complex and heavy, although the ones which pivot behind the wheel rather than at the centre of the wheel do allow equal turning in both directions.
I´d say it depends on what you want and what you transport. I wouldn´t for sure transport my most valuable stuff (aka kids) in a trailer with an unreliable hitch.
Center pull hitches (which pivot behind the wheel) are useful only for single wheel trailers behind hard tail (unsuspended rear wheel) bikes.
On suspended bikes you got to get the OK from the bike manufacturer since the trailer may overstress swingarm and/or swingarm pivot.
On 2wheelers a center pull hitch makes the trailer very nervous due to the short wheelbase (hitch pivot to trailer axle).
I commute by bike everyday, and go mountainbiking most weekends so when I bushcraft I tend to walk as it's nice to have a day off the bike. Plus when I'm on the bike I tend to want to travel light and fast (sub 20lb mountainbike). If I'm walking I'm happy to amble along and enjoy the scenery rather than the trail. Also I'd hate to leave my bike unsecured if I was mooching about the woods.
I do tend to sling some bushcrafty stuff in my camelbak when I'm riding though. Knife, FAC, tinder pouch and a folding saw.
http://i2.tinypic.com/2nizf37.jpg
I think my sister's trailer has simplest hitch -
BTW, all trailer manufacturers (BikesAtWork, Burley, Chariot, Weber etc.) sell hitches and tow bars as spare parts - just in case you want to upgrade.
A child trailer is easy to convert into a cargo trailer: take away that air-braking fabric and install a box made from water resistant plywood or sheet metall (galvanized steel, aluminum). Make the center of gravity as low as possible.
i have the plans for the bamboo and flatsy... now to see if a couple of my youth groups want to try building them... although i need to find a welder for the flatsy....
no, you don´t need a welder.
Other methods of joining metal are nuts & bolts, clamps, rivets ....
inspiration, imagination, transpiration, satisfaction :)
BTW, all trailer manufacturers (BikesAtWork, Burley, Chariot, Weber etc.) sell hitches and tow bars as spare parts - just in case you want to upgrade.
A child trailer is easy to convert into a cargo trailer: take away that air-braking fabric and install a box made from water resistant plywood or sheet metall (galvanized steel, aluminum). Make the center of gravity as low as possible.
this one doesn´t need welding http://canarlake.org/index.cgi?theme=cariole
the second version shows a multiple container system - if the supporting strips of wood are mounted high on the container it sit low in the chassis and will give are very nice towing characteristic due to its low center of gravity. Mind the nesseasary ground clearance
www.bikesatwork.com shows what´s possible
this one doesn´t need welding http://canarlake.org/index.cgi?theme=cariole
www.bikesatwork.com shows what´s possible
I've just taken a look at this and if the four main pieces are wood it shows the outer metal strips held to the timber by screws into the end grain. That won't last very long.
It woul be better using angle iron, but heavier, o that you can screw into the side of the wood.
I may have misunderstood this because I can't read the writing :0)
I´d say it depends on quality & dimensions of wood, screws etc. you´re using - predrilled and some water proof wood glue also helps. It also depends on how & what you´re going to transport with it.
If those outer flat steel parts (Profilé plat acier) are bend around the wooden frame menbers one could use bolts & nuts
my idea was just to post a drawing on how to fabricate a container to goes into an existing kids trailer. There are lots of DIY trailer plans on the net....
i thought this would amuse some of you, and maybe inspire you too
http://www.bmeres.com/bambooframe.htm
he has even made a home made carbon fiber version too.