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Lee_shanahan
25-02-2007, 21:45
I just curious to know if there any websites that sell match container to store my matches and prevent them getting wet when out doing a spot of bushcraft. I tried making some out shoutgun cartridges that i found in a feild, but when i tried to get the metal caps off i accidently burt them, so now i'm looking for an alterative way of storing my matches.
Ogri the trog
25-02-2007, 22:29
35mm film pots, as cheap as chips, work perfectly and if I breaks you won't need a loan to replace. You could of course use any small container with a good fitting lid that you can pack a few matches into that suits your expectations. If you are relying entirely on matches, spread them out throughout your gear - packets, pack etc just in case one lot gets wet/lost etc.
ATB
Ogri the trog
Lee_shanahan
25-02-2007, 22:34
great idea, i found shotgun cartridges hard to come across but i got a few film cartridges hanging round. i tend to just have enough matches on me incase of an emergancy or if i loose my firesteel. i read that if you dip the matches in molten wax, when its dried it will create a waterproof seal over the match so for extra measures i have coated my matches.
I must admit I am not a great fan of matches and find that in most circumstances a simple BIC lighter is more reliable.
The reason I say this is that a few years ago, I went through the process of coating some "strike anywhere" type matches with candle wax and then storing them in a 35mm film container...I did several such containers and had the them squirreled away in my bergan & webbing ect..
About 18 months later, when I actually came to need to use these matches, none worked...despite the wax coating, they all behaved just like they were damp ie the head came off/disintergrated as they were struck...
I've no idea why this happened, but ever since I have used other means of lighting fires..
Brocktor
25-02-2007, 23:40
i tried making shotgun shell match box, but the metal cap did not fit tightly. i guess it would only be waterproof if i sealed it and that doesnt suit me.
so now i just use bags
chas brookes
25-02-2007, 23:53
Hi Lee
you might find this thread interesting
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=19294
Chas
I just curious to know if there any websites that sell match container to store my matches and prevent them getting wet when out doing a spot of bushcraft. I tried making some out shoutgun cartridges that i found in a feild, but when i tried to get the metal caps off i accidently burt them, so now i'm looking for an alterative way of storing my matches.
Hi Lee
you might find this thread interesting
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=19294
Chas
Ooo! I was just about to say that!
I have found that the wax tends to stick to the chemical end of the match and pull it off when you strike it.
Matches seem to have been the preferred firlighting method of outdoorsmen for a long time - lighting a fire with one match seems to be a very important skill.
Lee_shanahan
26-02-2007, 09:32
Hi Lee
you might find this thread interesting
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=19294
Chas
Just looked at this thread, great bit of information, cheerz for the help.
Lee_shanahan
26-02-2007, 09:35
I decided to coat my matches the other day in wax and when i tried to light them i found it very diffucult to ignite. so i might just stick to my good old zippo, and have some matches on me just incase.
I decided to coat my matches the other day in wax and when i tried to light them i found it very diffucult to ignite. so i might just stick to my good old zippo, and have some matches on me just incase.
Try clear nail varnish...don't ask me how I know this. :o
Lee_shanahan
26-02-2007, 10:11
lol d/w i wont ask, cheerz mate i'll have a look tonight.
I decided to coat my matches the other day in wax and when i tried to light them i found it very diffucult to ignite. so i might just stick to my good old zippo, and have some matches on me just incase.
I've found shellac (http://www4.gvsu.edu/triert/cache/articles/tat/waterproofing_matches.htm) to be very effective.
I've found shellac (http://www4.gvsu.edu/triert/cache/articles/tat/waterproofing_matches.htm) to be very effective.
V similar to nail varnish. I guessing that anything that dries hard and water proof would be useful but, do you shellac/varnish the whole match, or just the head? If the match body becomes wet, does that ruin the head too?
Sounds an odd questions to ask but I've always managed to keep my matches dry, whatever way I've treated them.
British Red
28-02-2007, 06:54
Mikey,
I do the whole match - otherwise the wood acts like a wick over time
Red
Matt Weir
28-02-2007, 06:55
V similar to nail varnish. I guessing that anything that dries hard and water proof would be useful but, do you shellac/varnish the whole match, or just the head? If the match body becomes wet, does that ruin the head too?
Sounds an odd questions to ask but I've always managed to keep my matches dry, whatever way I've treated them.
Mikey,
I would think it best practice to coat the whole match as wood wicks water and eventually over time moisture will seep up and ruin the match head.
Matt.
looks like my missus won't be painting for her nails for a while when I get back home. Yuk-yuk!
i just poke my matches in to some vaseline, makes them water proof and u dont have to scrape it off like wax or nail varnish. i have had grat successes with shot gun shells, the trick is to find a macching pair then they fit together really snug.
sorry to annoy any one who has had any problems with them!
tp
I also got a container made of 2 identical shotgun shells. Works great. I don't bother waterproofing them, though I guess if I'd do some serious wilderness traveling I would... Always carry a lighter, firesteel and matches. I put reserve matches in film cans in my backpack. I'm interested in getting a good zippo or other kind of lighter, because I can use it as oillamp and as firestarter..
Hunter_zero
05-03-2007, 17:33
I also got a container made of 2 identical shotgun shells. ..
I have a load of empty shells left from the weekends clay shoot. Free to a good home.
John
Lee_shanahan
05-03-2007, 18:39
I also got a container made of 2 identical shotgun shells. Works great. I don't bother waterproofing them, though I guess if I'd do some serious wilderness traveling I would... Always carry a lighter, firesteel and matches. I put reserve matches in film cans in my backpack. I'm interested in getting a good zippo or other kind of lighter, because I can use it as oillamp and as firestarter..
I got a good zippo, i take it everywhere with me when I'm out in the wild. unlike the cheap clipper lighters which i also carry just incase, i don't have to worry about the wind blowing it out.