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Humpback
20-02-2007, 18:58
I want to take one Trangia fill of UK(purple) meths with me on walks to brew up a cuppa without storing it in the Trangia. Are small nalgene bottles OK or will they melt/fail? Anyone use them for this job?
Alternatively if anyone can suggest an alternative other than glass I would be grateful.
Alan
I'm sure they'd be fine. I used a "panda pop" bottle for a long while.
Bardster
20-02-2007, 19:01
Sigg do a fuel bottle 0.3 litre. I have one sitting on my desk beside me ;) but in doing a search for a pic, came up with this http://www.needlesports.com/acatalog/Sigg.html First item in the fuel bottle list is a nalgene one - whadda ya know. :D :D :D
MSR fuel bottle
Faff, I don't think this is the right link. :confused:
Paul
MSR fuel bottle
Not sure if this is the same bottle but in the link that Bardster supplied they have MSR fuel bottles but say
"MSR fuel bottles are unlined. They are fine for use with white gas, Coleman Fuel, petrol and parafin (kerosene), but are not suitable for methylated spirits. "
Paul
I've used a flexible Platypus "little nipper" bottle for the last year or so to carry / store meths. You can get a special squirt lid for it thats handy and I've had no leaks so far, although I do tend to use a normal cap for long term storage.
ATB
Tom
Not sure if this is the same bottle but in the link that Bardster supplied they have MSR fuel bottles but say
"MSR fuel bottles are unlined. They are fine for use with white gas, Coleman Fuel, petrol and parafin (kerosene), but are not suitable for methylated spirits. "
Paul
they are the same bottle.I have used meths in them many moons ago when i had a trangia but i have been toled not to leave it in the bottle for months as it can eat away at it,but I always did with no problem :confused: but sig bottles are lined and ok I think
Gailainne
20-02-2007, 20:26
Looks like your out of luck with the Sigg bottles, unless you find old stock !
Sorry - Sigg Fuel Bottles are no longer being made from the site Bardster quoted.
Stephen
I would imagine that a Nalgene bottle woud be fine. You can check by smearing a bit of meths on the outside of the bottle, rubbing it in, and seeing if it affects the surface (goes cloudy or sticky). If it doesn't, you should be OK. Just make suure you mark the bottle - you don't want to drink meths!!! Or maybe you do...?
In my own opinion, I'm not mad keen on the Sigg/MSR bottles. They actually seem a bit fragile and you can't see a fuel level. I know that sounds odd but I've dinged and split metal bottles before but I've never broken a Nalgene.
Unfortunately, you have to use an MSR bottle for their liquid fuel stoves and so I do use that one.
Scuba Pete
21-02-2007, 09:56
The best thing you can use is Trangia's own bottle. I have one and its great.
http://www.fieldandtrek.com/product-Trangia-Fuel-Bottle-18527.htm
They are very strong and already have the markings on the bottle, Highly flammable etc.
The best thing is how you use them to fill your stove. The problem with many bottles is how you fill the burner from a height without getting meths all over the place. When the burner runs out in the middle of cooking you don’t want to have to take it all apart. If you look at the bottle it has a screw on the top, you loosen that and it allows it to be depressed, opening the valve. You turn the bottle on the side and point one of the nozzles towards the burner from directly above. (the black T part) You press the top and a nice stream of meths with fall directly into the burner. You can do it from some height, its really impressive, lol. I hope you understood that.
I agree with Scuba Pete's recommendation. The Trangia fuel bottles are great, don't leak, come in two sizes (I think...) and make filling the burner very easy and safe. The clincher is the fact that Trangia make the stoves, so they must have thought long and hard about the bottle to carry the fuel for it.
Scuba Pete
21-02-2007, 10:37
Yeah, they have a 500ml (the one I have) and a 1000ml. They might have others but I have not seen them.
Yep, Trangia fuel bottles, top bit of kit ;)
PhilParry
21-02-2007, 11:00
Mr Naive here - can someone explain to me why the bottles need to be lined? Is it due to some corrosion?
Phil
they are the same bottle.I have used meths in them many moons ago when i had a trangia but i have been toled not to leave it in the bottle for months as it can eat away at it,but I always did with no problem :confused: but sig bottles are lined and ok I think
oldsoldier
21-02-2007, 11:48
I think the methyl alcohol eats at uncoated aluminum. But, I have carried that type of fuel for years in a smaller nalgene bottle (the lexan ones), and it hasnt eaten through yet. It will be fine
big_swede
21-02-2007, 11:55
I want to take one Trangia fill of UK(purple) meths with me on walks to brew up a cuppa without storing it in the Trangia. Are small nalgene bottles OK or will they melt/fail? Anyone use them for this job?
Alternatively if anyone can suggest an alternative other than glass I would be grateful.
Alan
Why a nalgene bottle, aren't they a bit expensive for fuel storage? :confused:
You could just use a small pet-bottle.
As others have said, go with the Trangia fuel bottle. For some reason, meths attacks some plastic, I have had problems in the past with Sigg fuel bottles for instance, where the stopper just seems to weld to the bottle after prolonged use.
http://www.breaking-free.co.uk/index.asp?function=DISPLAYPROD UCT&productid=517
shop around for cheaper prices, but these bottles are very strong, and the valve is good too :)
Mr Naive here - can someone explain to me why the bottles need to be lined? Is it due to some corrosion?
Phil
Maybe I've got the wrong end of the stick here, but I thought that the fuel bottles were unlined, in contrast to the drinking bottles, which are lined to prevent that lovely metallic taste you'd otherwise get from aluminium bottles.
+1 for the Trangia bottles, great pouring top
David
Humpback
21-02-2007, 18:45
Why a nalgene bottle, aren't they a bit expensive for fuel storage? :confused:
You could just use a small pet-bottle.
Chiefly because I have some small nalgenes doing nothing and want to take just enough fuel for one brew without storing it in the trangia. :)
Alan
PS I keep the meths in a 1l sigg fuel bottle on longer trips.
big_swede
21-02-2007, 19:23
As others have said, go with the Trangia fuel bottle. For some reason, meths attacks some plastic, I have had problems in the past with Sigg fuel bottles for instance, where the stopper just seems to weld to the bottle after prolonged use.
http://www.breaking-free.co.uk/index.asp?function=DISPLAYPROD UCT&productid=517
shop around for cheaper prices, but these bottles are very strong, and the valve is good too :)
Meth does not corrode PET plastic, your normal 0.5 liter coke bottle. Neither does petrol. Aluminium is much easier to corrode then plastic.
Nalgene bottles are excellent. However, they are a bit pricey. I carry around the meth in a bottle of Dettol. They are indestructible!!!
mauro