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Gona go away this weekend and stop out for just one night.
What would recommend kit wise?
I'll be stopping in local woodland.
Cheers
Bushcraft4life
07-02-2007, 16:36
Not much to work on :rolleyes: . What will you be using e.g tent or hammock and tarp.
Does the area allow campfires. If not a small stove.
Knife or sak
Sleeping bag (good one as it is a bit chilly)
Warm clothes and a poncho in case of rain
As for main kit this is all i have gone out with on a one nighter before.
Means of lighting fire
lighter
fire steel ect
Basic ration pack or just some tinned food.
Give us some of the kit you have and conditions you expect to arise and maybe we can help you more.
Kit i had in mind:
Tarp
Goretex Bivvy bag
4 Season SAS Sleeping Bag
Foam Matt
Knife
Gaitors
Boots
Socks
Thermals
Waterproof Trousers
Trousers
Wool jumper
Gloves & Hat
Goretex Jacket
Trangia
Survival tin [standard] just in case.
Food
Fire Steel
I will be having a fire!!!
It'll no doubt be raining but might snow too
Bushcraft4life
07-02-2007, 16:50
:eek: Thats a lot of kit dude :lmao: .
Yeah everything there looks good but for one night???Will you be working from a car or just walking out into the woodland.
gregorach
07-02-2007, 16:54
It's not that much really - most of it is clothing, presumably worn. Seems like a pretty standard kit - although I'd probably add a trowel and some bog roll. ;)
I'll be wearing all these anyway!
Gaitors
Boots
Socks
Thermals
Waterproof Trousers
Trousers
Wool jumper
Gloves & Hat
Goretex Jacket
I'll be walking about 4 mile into the woodland from the bus stop just to make sure i aint near anyone.
Bushcraft4life
07-02-2007, 17:03
Should be great fun mate. Enjoy yourself. And watch the weather ;)
dommyracer
07-02-2007, 17:04
You're going to walk 4 Miles wearing Thermals, Wool Jumper and a Goretex Jacket?
I dunno about you but I get quite warm when I'm walking, so strip back to basics - then put the warm stuff on when I'm not moving around.
You'll probably end up carrying the Wool jumper and the jacket, unless you want it all to get damp.
good clothing axe knife sleeping bag ground mat brewkit and small cooking pot firesteel
PJMCBear
07-02-2007, 17:12
Looks about right to me. As does your weather predictions. Looks like you're going to get sleet, snow & rain.
I'd try to find something to help insulate under the mat. You might also want to think about something to shovel the snow away.
Looks about right to me. As does your weather predictions. Looks like you're going to get sleet, snow & rain.
I'd try to find something to help insulate under the mat. You might also want to think about something to shovel the snow away. I am sure I can get over shovel thing
fred gordon
07-02-2007, 17:17
As it will be dark for quite a lot of the time I would add a book or MP3 player. Probably a book for me so that I could also listen to the sounds of the wood. :) Don't see a torch on the list!
thats why god made pine trees they burn verry brite . pine candles try it
Did the same thing last weekend - found a new hole in my Thermarest. My only suggestions are take a First Aid Kit, and a mobile phone if you have one and there's a signal. The latter will probably do more to save your life in an emergency than a survival tin. sorry your rite first aid kit is a must and my phone
PhilParry
07-02-2007, 17:33
Erm....one word.....Food.....?!!? :D
And Jason, your Avatar is WAAAAAAAAYYYY too scary! :yikes:
Reminds me of my mother in law!! :bluThinki
Phil
Cool!
Thanks guys
I'll have my phone and book on me anyway.
Added a torch and first aid kit to the list.
Erm....one word.....Food.....?!!? :D
And Jason, your Avatar is WAAAAAAAAYYYY too scary! :yikes:
Reminds me of my mother in law!! :bluThinki
Phil
Ya i got food down
oyster mushrooms/ chick weed/ velvet shank/ nettles/ jack by the hedge/cleavers/shepherdspurse it can go on :D
PhilParry
07-02-2007, 18:05
Ya i got food down
Whoops...Yes, I need glasses...you're right. :o
OK...how 'bout
A) head torch
b) your latest carving project (if you have one)
c) failing that a good book (Nessmuk anyone?)
Have a GREAT time!! :D
Phil
sorry two more beer and take away menu :lmao:
If it's an overnight, low impact camp this is the kit I usually take.
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/gallery/data/500/Small-Camp.jpg
PhilParry
07-02-2007, 18:27
I've got to ask Wayland what's the little stove?!? :o
Bushcraft4life
07-02-2007, 18:29
cool I have got to meet you .come to one of my meets :You_Rock_
My thoughts exactly. Wayland :You_Rock_
I've got to ask Wayland what's the little stove?!? :o
It's an Ikea cutlery drainer with a hole cut in the side and a couple of skewers through the top to stand the pot on.
It costs about £2.29 I think.
dommyracer
07-02-2007, 19:49
Wayland, I have a couple of those Ikea pots at home, and had thought they would make a perfect brazier, but my 12 cm Zebra is just slightly the wrong size to use with it.
That must be the 10 cm right?
Wayland, I have a couple of those Ikea pots at home, and had thought they would make a perfect brazier, but my 12 cm Zebra is just slightly the wrong size to use with it.
That must be the 10 cm right?
Yup...........
thanks for your advice guys & gals?
what the best way to tie guy lines to a tarp?
Wayland your pictures always look like their professionally done, is it just a case of setting your camera on timer and hoping for the best or is someone taking then for you?
Cool idea with the stove spotted the Ikea job straight away. :D
I use a tripod and an interval timer which takes pictures every few seconds and then I sort them out in the computer.
Having said that I used to earn a crust or two through photography in my dim and distant past.
thanks for your advice guys & gals?
what the best way to tie guy lines to a tarp?
If it is a tarp with eyelets use a bowline through the eyes. If it doesn't have eyes, or they have ripped out :rolleyes: , I fold the corner and use a jack ketch(hangmans) knot. You can also put a small pebble in the corner or along the side and fold the tarp over it, but I find folding it and pulling the knot tight works well enough.
http://www.folsoms.net/knots/
Failing all else, lots of knots works, just a bit of a bugger to untie again!
well i went out on saterday afternoon and rained all day, night and morning.
It was soo bloody cold but i loved every minute of it.
plenty of socks and underwear :) especially if your eating dodgy salad 3 times a day like i did in the high atlas :lmao:
You're going to walk 4 Miles wearing Thermals, Wool Jumper and a Goretex Jacket? :eek:
I dunno about you but I get quite warm when I'm walking, so strip back to basics - then put the warm stuff on when I'm not moving around.
You'll probably end up carrying the Wool jumper and the jacket, unless you want it all to get damp.
I'm with Dommyracer, 4 miles in thermals and goretex! A lesson I learnt the hard way is to always start off cold when walking because you will soon get warm!
By the way what is a dommyracer? :confused:
But after all that I hope you have a good night mate.. :D
BushTucker
14-02-2007, 00:37
Localy all i take is my tarp, sandwiches, gas stove, coffee,milk,sugar, torch,mobile,sleeping bag and a hammock.
My bivvi too if its very wet
It's an Ikea cutlery drainer with a hole cut in the side and a couple of skewers through the top to stand the pot on.
It costs about £2.29 I think.
Having seen you photo on that thread from yesterday I was inspired to have a play today.
http://www.stonefisk.com/media/billy/STA70410.JPG
http://www.stonefisk.com/media/billy/STA70412.JPG
http://www.stonefisk.com/media/billy/STA70422.JPG
Ikea stainless cutlery drainer. I have not cut a hole in the side as of yet - dropping fuel down side or taking billy off heat briefly to add more if needed.
Ikea stainless sealed lid pot (coffee holder) for a billy can. I did not own a nice round billycan so took the wooden lid attachment off this pot, added a removable handle from an broken British army mess tin, and fitted a stainless lid from a disused teapot. It holds over a pint of liquid and fits neatly down inside the cutlery drainer for stowage.
Skewers are from supermarket I think. Straightened them out then bent the prongs outward to give a sprung fit to the existing holes in the drainer.
Thx for the fun, I enjoyed playing.
Thx for the fun, I enjoyed playing.Just wait until the better looking half of your relationship finds out what you've done :eek: , the cutlery holder aye, but what about the skewers, the teapot and the coffee jar ??? i can see :soapbox: on the horizon :D
A visit to ikea or index will never be the same again, everything takes on a new look. My wife has to wait for me in these shops now!
Just wait until the better looking half of your relationship finds out what you've done
One of the major priorities in my life is titled in bold and underlined in red marker pen "MAKE SURE MY BUDDY BHOD NEVER EVER HAS A CONVERSATION WITH MISSES AGAIN" :buttkick:
Matt Weir
14-02-2007, 11:08
If it is a tarp with eyelets use a bowline through the eyes. If it doesn't have eyes, or they have ripped out :rolleyes: , I fold the corner and use a jack ketch(hangmans) knot. You can also put a small pebble in the corner or along the side and fold the tarp over it, but I find folding it and pulling the knot tight works well enough.
http://www.folsoms.net/knots/
Failing all else, lots of knots works, just a bit of a bugger to untie again!
Goose/anyone,
For the other end of the line as a lashing to a tree would you recommend a clove hitch? Or is there a better technique?
Matt.
If it's an overnight, low impact camp this is the kit I usually take.
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/gallery/data/500/Small-Camp.jpg
your very good at the far away thoughtfull look into the distance :D
ATB
Duncan
Goose/anyone,
For the other end of the line as a lashing to a tree would you recommend a clove hitch? Or is there a better technique?
Matt.
Try the tautline hitch (http://www.iland.net/~jbritton/tautlinehitch.htm) so you can adjust it.
Matt Weir
14-02-2007, 12:10
Ahh,
Thanks led.
I definately need to bone up on knots so I'm sat here at work putting knots into CAT5 ethernet cables :)
Edit: CAT5 is no good for tying a tautline hitch (too slippy) so I'm off to find some rope ;)
Edit: Nipped out at lunch and bought some paracord. I have cut a small length and have been practicing the bowline and tautline hitch over and over all afternoon and am pleased to say I'm getting pretty profficient :)
I think I'll be having a crack at putting the tarp up in the garden when I get home :D
Matt.
I usually use the falconers knot/hitch to fasten the first end of my tarp to the tree and a variation of it on the other end that allows me to pull it tight, but will undo with a good tug on the standing end. On my hammock I take a turn round a tree usually, depends on size of tree, and a slip knot to tie it back to itself. It is a lot easier to show than explain! I will dig out my hammock and camera later today or tomorrow.
Matt Weir
14-02-2007, 19:45
Thanks Goose,
That'd be great.
Matt.
Here is a link for tying the falconers hitch http://www.themodernapprentice.com/knot.htm
Thanks to LED for the link.
I use that on one end of the tarp line then on the other to keep it tight I take the rope around the tree then take it back the the other way, it pulls the line even tighter and if there is enough cordage I go back around again. Then i finish this with a slip knot usually similar to the falconers.
My hammock is the mosquito hammock and I use basically the method described on here to tie it up, not had chance to get my kit out today. http://www.mosquitohammock.com/hammockknots.html
If it is too far between the trees, or the trees are too wide, I tie a loop through the hammock so I have one longer line out and tie on using the falconers knot.
Matt Weir
15-02-2007, 08:32
As a side note I want to apologise to Dunk for the thread hijack. Could one of the mods please move the posts regarding knots for tarps. Probably best to stick them in rigging a tarp (http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=19018) if possible.
Thanks,
Matt.
Well seeing as this is a bushcraft website and not a camping website. I would say nothing and see if you cam improvise everything you need.
gregorach
02-06-2008, 12:08
Oooh, a smart-alec reply on a thread over a year old. Very good! Bonus points for trying to dictate what you think the forum should be about.
I'm sure we're all in awe of your purity. Do enlighten us, oh master...
lol sorry couldnt resist,:)
Well seeing as this is a bushcraft website and not a camping website. I would say nothing and see if you cam improvise everything you need.
Bushcraft is camping the minute you setup for the night. While some find it trendy to proclaim 'I'm a bushcrafter' I still think of all of us here as a bunch of happy campers who like to keep some old traditions and camping methods alive and well;)
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/camping
Bushcraft is camping the minute you setup for the night. While some find it trendy to proclaim 'I'm a bushcrafter' I still think of all of us here as a bunch of happy campers who like to keep some old traditions and camping methods alive and well;)
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/camping
I think it's a bit more than that though, considering you can practise bushcraft without camping. Yes, there's camping involved, and in that aspect I'd agree with you, but then there's wild food/medicine/leatherwork/woodwork etc etc that doesn't really have much to do with camping..
Of course that's taking your post out of context, without much relevance to this (very old) thread :p
May I also ask why the revival of this thread? :eek:
I think it's a bit more than that though, considering you can practise bushcraft without camping. Yes, there's camping involved, and in that aspect I'd agree with you, but then there's wild food/medicine/leatherwork/woodwork etc etc that doesn't really have much to do with camping..
Of course that's taking your post out of context, without much relevance to this (very old) thread :p
May I also ask why the revival of this thread? :eek:
When I was a boy scout some 40 years ago, we used tarps, made leanto shelters, lit fires, learned first aid, we were just scouts not bushcrafters;) The leatherwork etc you mention goes back to what I said about keeping old skills going, these often fit in well with camping.
When I was a boy scout some 40 years ago, we used tarps, made leanto shelters, lit fires, learned first aid, we were just scouts not bushcrafters;) The leatherwork etc you mention goes back to what I said about keeping old skills going, these often fit in well with camping.
But you wouldn't call scouts just campers would you?