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bent-stick
06-02-2007, 12:56
I'm going to be ordering some leather from le prevo in the near future and I can order an extra hide to divi up for sheaths etc. Le Prevo will only sell complete sides or shoulders which are 10sq ft and upwards.
I usually go for 2.6mm veg tan columbo sides at about 2.15+p&p+vat per square foot. A square foot will give you enough for a couple of mora sheaths.
The leather is fine for wet-forming and carving BUT it is grade 2 and you sometimes get imperfection on the hair side. which are made worse when you put dye on it. There are also holes. Is it fair to say that I will not send out anything with holes but, depending on the state of the side when I get it I'll share the wastage between the participants. I don't expect this to be more than 30p/sqft
First grade of a similar thickness are 3.08+p&p+vat per sq ft. If there is enough interest I'll consider getting a shoulder of this too.
Lets see what the interest is.
Please say how much you are looking for and which quality and we'll see if this is a goer.
Would be up for a full side, depending on price
Nice idea. I'm in for a couple of square feet.
beamdune
06-02-2007, 13:23
I'd be interested in a couple (or few) of square feet
I would be up for some, never worked with leather before so possibly some of each (3-4 square foot each) quality to have a play with.
Nigel
I'm up for 3-4 square feet.
Got a few sheaths to make!
bent-stick
06-02-2007, 13:45
Here's the scores on the doors:
Columbo 2.6 sqft
Pignut 1 side (you could go direct to le prevo unless we get to 100sqft I'll just be passing on the price...)
led 2 sqft
beamdune 2-3 sqft
nigelp 3-4sqft
boxy 3-4sq ft
grade 1 shoulder 2.5-3mm
nigelp 3-4sq ft
So we are already up to 1 columbo side already...
I'll let it run until 15 March and put the order in on the Friday.
When the leather arrives I'll divi it up and sort out a final price.
It's not something I know anything about, but I'd like to have a go.
Please could you put me down for just two square feet.
Thanks for organizing it,
Andy
I would also be interested as i need to make a sheath for the knife i have just finished. :D
No idea on leather work but im sure ill figure it out !
Just let me know when thanks.....
I'll go for 3 square feet. I've always wanted to try some leather work, but couldn't justify buying a full side.
Whilst we're on the subject, does anyone know where to get some reasonably (i.e. cheap as possible) priced leather tools from?
Hunter_zero
06-02-2007, 18:34
Depending on price, I'd be in for 3 - 10 square foot.
John
Gailainne
06-02-2007, 20:09
Hi
I'd be in for 3sq ft of each
I would be grateful for 2 sq ft of the grade 1 stuff please.
Here's the scores on the doors:
Columbo 2.6 sqft
Pignut 1 side (you could go direct to le prevo unless we get to 100sqft I'll just be passing on the price...)
led 2 sqft
beamdune 2-3 sqft
nigelp 3-4sqft
boxy 3-4sq ft
grade 1 shoulder 2.5-3mm
nigelp 3-4sq ft
So we are already up to 1 columbo side already...
I'll let it run until 15 March and put the order in on the Friday.
When the leather arrives I'll divi it up and sort out a final price.
leave me in, I presume from your comments that you get it cheaper for over 100sq ft. I needa side anyway so if it helpseveryone get it at a better price all well and good
If you see what i mean
Ogri the trog
07-02-2007, 03:40
I'd be up for 2 square feet of both please, Columbo and Grade 1.
Cheers
Ogri the trog
Great that you are organising this as I have just finished my first small sheath and possibles pouch from leather offcuts from my local cobbler.
I would be up for 4 Sq feet of whatever quality you can get so as to make some larger versions.
Thanks.
George
bent-stick
15-02-2007, 10:48
Just a bump.
I'm closing this at 6pm (when I get home from work) and I'll have a count up. I'll post the scores on the doors later.
I'm hoping to order tomorrow, if not then, Monday based on the expressions of interest. I'd appreciate dropouts before then not a disaster if you don't see it though I can always use or get rid of leather.
Cheers me dears,
David
John Dixon
15-02-2007, 10:58
Im up for 4 sq feet please........ any type.. thanks for organising this
Mr_Rimps
15-02-2007, 11:10
4 sq ft of Columbo for me please David.
Thanks for organising.
Andy
Could you amend mine from two to four sq ft please?
Thanks.
2 sq ' of grade 1 for me please.......Many thanks...
4 sq ft of grade 1 please. If the grade 1 purchase doesn't go ahead I'd take the same size in columbo.
Thanks for taking this on
Rat
Hunter_zero
15-02-2007, 18:13
I'm still in for it! again do you know what sort of price we will be looking at?
Put me down for 3 sq' but let me know a price and I'll have more.
Not sure but did you type 30p a square foot? can not be right, can it?
If so, put me down for 10 square feet.
Thanks
John
bent-stick
15-02-2007, 19:13
I'tll be about 2.50 pounds a sq ft for the columbo and a bit more for the grade 1.
I recon the wastage might cost us 30p a sq ft.
Gailainne
15-02-2007, 19:55
bent-stick
Please let me know if your totals, especially of the grade 1 are a bit short of the 10 sq ft, I'll be happy to buy some more to help make up the difference, as I'm sure others will be.
Cheers for doing this :D
Stephen
Hunter_zero
15-02-2007, 20:36
I'tll be about 2.50 pounds a sq ft for the columbo and a bit more for the grade 1.
I recon the wastage might cost us 30p a sq ft.
Is that Inc. of postage?
The reason I ask is that their standard pricing is £2.15 and £1.99 (over 100 square foot).
So for 10 sq' that would be £21.50 + £3 P&P + VAT =£24.50 + vat =£28.81 (?).
If we were looking at £25 + postage of say £3 then we would be looking at saving 81p.
At any rate, stick me down for the 3 sq' @ £2.50.
Thanks for sorting it all out.
John
bent-stick
15-02-2007, 21:59
oops just reveiwed this and I originally said I'd run it until 15 march. I have to get my order in in the next couple of weeks because I'm running low.
Although the original intention was to offer material to people who didn't want a full side rather than shave the prices a great deal I'm hoping that I can do a bit of negotiating on the basis that although we are not up to their official price break (100sqft) it's still a substantial order. I'll talk to them tomorrow or Monday and let you know the outcome.
Here's my adding up:
Pignut - 10(1 full side)
led - 4
beamdune 2
nigelp 3
boxy 3
AJB 2
Dwardo 2? - pm sent
schwuk 3
gailainne 3
Ogri the trog 2
Seoras 4
John Dixon 4
Mr Rimps 4
Hunter_zero 3
Total 49sqft
[B]Grade 1
nigelp 3
gailainne 3
elrond 2
Ogri the trog 2
John Pickett 2
Ratbag 4
Total 16sqft
Add to that my couple of sides and some other stuff I'm ordering and I think we might have a bit of leverage...
queeg9000
15-02-2007, 23:33
Hello Bent-stick,
am i too late for this offer? If I'm still in time, can you put me down for 4 square feet of grade 1 and 2 of grade 2??
thank you
If I'm not too late I'd like 3 sq ft of grade 2 please.
Many thanks.
2blackcat
16-02-2007, 09:31
I was waiting to see you before I placed an order
15th March indeed!
I'll take 2sq ft of grade 2 if that's at all possible now you've closed this down early
It's a good thing you're a friend or I might have had a moan
Hunter_zero
20-02-2007, 08:27
Any news on this buy?
Are we going to wait till 15th?
Thanks mate.
John
bent-stick
20-02-2007, 09:21
Hello 2bc - where on earth did you pop up from - haven't seen you on the webboards recently - don't tell me they are making you work for a living ;) I hope you'll be at either the atl-atl chuck or come over the Mr Rob's at Easter.
Not too late...I got tied up with customers yesterday and will be today (project is going t*ts up and it's down to me to give them a warm and fuzzy feeling that it isn't) so I'm unlikely to call le prevo until wednesday. Sorry for the delay.
It will happen.
Hi bent-stick. If you read this before speaking to le-provo then I'd like a full side of grade 2 please. Does this get you nearer the 100 sq ft mark? Would have asked sooner but been computerless for a while. Thanks.
Floyd Soul
20-02-2007, 23:18
I'd be up for 3 sq ft of grade 2 please? I've been on the lookout for some leather to make a sheath and some other knicknacks and it would be great to get some!
hi there is it too late to get in on this i wouldnt mind 3 sq ft of grade 2 been dying to have a go at a sheath
ady
:lmao:
If possible, and I'm not too late, could you put me down for 2 x 3sq ft bits of grade 2 please?
many thanks in advance :D
(or 6sq ft's worth, if it is easier)
bent-stick
21-02-2007, 15:02
Revised adding up. And this is now definitely CLOSED. I'm off to phone in the order right now...
Grade 2
Pignut - 10(1 full side)
led - 4
beamdune 2
nigelp 3
boxy 3
AJB 2
Dwardo 2? - pm sent
schwuk 3
gailainne 3
Ogri the trog 2
Seoras 4
John Dixon 4
Mr Rimps 4
Hunter_zero 3
===========
Qeeg9000 4
AndyW 3
Toots Full side (10)
Floyd Soul 3
2balckcat 2
Ady05 3
Monkey 6
Total 90sqft
Grade 1
nigelp 3
gailainne 3
elrond 2
Ogri the trog 2
John Pickett 2
Ratbag 4
Total 16sqft
With my order we are easily up to 100sqft of the grade 2 so we hit the price break. I'll see what I can do on further discounts...
bent-stick
22-02-2007, 17:42
Just heard from le prevo and I thought I'd give you an update...
Across the whole order we are looking at about 2.70/sqft inc vat and delivery. The columbo will be a bit less and the grade 1 a bit more. I haven't done the exact sums yet because I haven't got the breakdown of the price. This price doesn't take into account any wastage. I'm prepared to take up some of the slack there because they can become key fobs etc..
I haven't worked out my p&p yet either.
I'm pressing the button to buy right now. Should be with us next week and I'll start dividing it up. It'll take me a little while to work out the best way to fit what you want onto the hides to minimise the wastage. If you are looking for specific shapes say now. If left to me I'll make them as either 1ft x nft or as square as possible depending on how I can fit them on the hides.
I'll get some pictures of the hides when they arrive and try to show you what you are getting. I'll PM everyone individually with the full amount when I've broken it down.
I'd prefer payment by paypal. I'll eat the paypal fees as I'm asking for payment like that for my own convienience.
Floyd Soul
22-02-2007, 21:35
Thanks a million bent-stick. Lookin forward to hearin from you.
queeg9000
22-02-2007, 23:04
Thanks Bent-Stick,
it was very good of you to organise this buy, it's not easy to do.
If there's any grade 1 available too, let me know please.
:You_Rock_
Thanks Bent Stick
Really appreciate this group buy and the time and effort it has taken to organise it. My wife Alison has even expressed approval to this new area of Bushcraft as she sees it as being more productive to my usual creations around fire making. A rare thing indeed. I think she is hoping for some sort of possibles pouch for herself.
Cheers
George
bent-stick
01-03-2007, 09:05
Update. The leather has arrivedI'll unpack it and start dividing it up at the weekend.
bent-stick
06-03-2007, 09:13
Further update:
I started dividing it up on Sunday. Getting the best fit of sizes on the hides is a bit of a mission - I can see why le prevo don't do it ;) I should finish next weekend and start getting bills and leather to people next week.
Thanks for being patient
David
Further update:
I started dividing it up on Sunday. Getting the best fit of sizes on the hides is a bit of a mission - I can see why le prevo don't do it ;) I should finish next weekend and start getting bills and leather to people next week.
Thanks for being patient
David
No probs David....Thanks for all your doing....
Gailainne
06-03-2007, 09:42
NIce one
Appreciate all your effort on this.
Stephen
Further update:
I started dividing it up on Sunday. Getting the best fit of sizes on the hides is a bit of a mission - I can see why le prevo don't do it ;) I should finish next weekend and start getting bills and leather to people next week.
Thanks for being patient
David
thank you sir, yer a gent
thanks bent-stick truely appreciated
:You_Rock_
2blackcat
07-03-2007, 23:35
Hello, BS
As you no doubt noticed I never made it to the spear chuckers convention so it's all down to Mr Robs for the day (which of the three I'm not sure of yet though)
They'll never make me work for a living but I did have to use up my annual leave entitlement and I don't often use these 'net boxes at home
bent-stick
16-03-2007, 09:24
I've made a start and I'll definitely finish this weekend.
Bills and leather will go out next week if I have to stay up all night doing it ;)
Many apologies for keeping you all waiting...
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/8687/leatherng8.jpg
No worries!
You are a star for doing it!
Keep us posted!
No worries Mr bs, it must be some job to sort all this out.
thanx again
Hi BS
Thanks don't put yourself out too much I will be grateful for the leather when you have time to sort. Thanks for doing this :You_Rock_
Nigel
Gailainne
18-03-2007, 19:04
Daaaaamn thats a lot of leather..I seriously did'nt realise, the scope of the task you had set yourself, serious kudos mate (and rep when its working again).
For me, it takes the time it takes, I appreciate your effort.
Regards
Stephen
queeg9000
19-03-2007, 13:43
No panic on the leather Bent stick, I appreciate how much work is involved in these group buys, don't end up out of pocket!
thanks again
Is this still a goer?
I dont want to pester but am plum out of leather!
:You_Rock_ :sad6:
bent-stick
31-03-2007, 18:10
Definiely still on. I'm sitting with 300squids worth of leather if it all goes pearshaped. :eek:
Pignut - you have PM.
I'm having another go at it tomorrow and hope to get some out next week. It's working out at 2.75 sqft for the columbo and 3GBP to send 2 sqft signed for. (alowing a bit for packaging).
2bc, If you can wait until easter I'll bring yours along to holmbush and you can save the postage.
It will go out in batches, 'er indoors has a bad back so won't be able to get it all down to the PO at once. But we are getting there.I'll pm individuals as it leaves here so you can send me some dosh.
The Grade 1 stuff is still in the packaging I'll sort that out next.
2blackcat
01-04-2007, 01:56
I certainly can, B-S
In fact I was going to suggest that very thing
See you there. Save me a bunny
bent-stick
02-04-2007, 22:06
First batch of pms sent to:
led
beamdune
nigelp
boxy
AJB
schwuk
gaillainne
seoras
toots
Next chance I get to cut it up is wednesday...so if you are not in this batch, it'll be a couple of days.
I
Arrived this morning. Many thanks for the time and effort you've put into this for us.
MitchelHicks
06-04-2007, 00:29
If anyone hasn't paid for their leather and arent going to would it be possible for me to take enough to make about 2 Sheaths. I want to have a go at some leatherwork but I cant find anywhere that sells small ammounts of it does anyone have any ideas where I could get a bit about 2 foot long by one foot wide?
Thanks for any information you can give me.
bent-stick
06-04-2007, 06:53
I think I will have some left over (I got more than enough because I thought There would be some wastage.)
Remind me (I'm getting old) after the next batch is sorted.
I think I will have some left over (I got more than enough because I thought There would be some wastage.)
Remind me (I'm getting old) after the next batch is sorted.
Hi BS.....I wouldn't mind some more than I ordered, should you have any spare at the end.....
Cheers mate...
2blackcat
10-04-2007, 01:26
Sorry I couldn't make it the weekend, BS
Doesn't look like I'm going to be able to come out to play for a while so could you send me your details and I'll Paypal the necessary over?
Hi Bent Stick,
Sorry, I've been away.
PM in the wires!
AJB
Received mine on Saturday - thanks bent-stick. Now for some leatherworking tools! :D
You have been PayPal'ed!
Many thanks
[now who's doing the tools group buy? ;o)]
AJB
Gailainne
10-04-2007, 15:21
Got mine on Saturday also :)
Cheers for all, and continuing effort on this.
Stephen
Came back from Scotland on monday to find a parcel for me at home. Thanks very much for all the effort. :You_Rock_
Picked up the leather this morning from the Post Office. Good quality.
Thanks for all the effort you put into organising this Bent Stick. :You_Rock_
Now for some sheaths.
Cheers
George
Yep, I was also on the Saturday morning delivery run.
Thank you for all your efforts, really appreciated.
Now, what do I do with this stuff?
Andy
beamdune
19-04-2007, 15:43
Got mine too, much appreciated.
I'd buy some left-overs off you if any available. PM sent too.
queeg9000
30-04-2007, 07:38
Hello Bent Stick,
Any news on the leather, have you managed to cut the rest of it up yet?
Thanks
Steve
Hi bent-stick
Any news on what's happening with this?
Thanks,
Andy
bent-stick
09-05-2007, 07:46
Sorry fellas, most of it is still sitting at home annoying the hell out of Alison ;)
A few more bits have gone out to those whove been in ugent need.
I won't get another chance until Friday - I'll do another batch of 10 then.
David
Thanks for the update. I'm not desperate, just worrying that maybe I'd missed something at some point and missed out :rolleyes:
I can imagine this isn't too easy so that again for the hard work in arranging the GB.
Andy
Floyd Soul
10-05-2007, 18:56
Thanks a million bent-stick. I'm really looking forward to making some sheaths for my tools. :You_Rock_
Anything happening on the leather BS....? I keep holding off from buying some cos I dont want to say to you, I dont need any now, but I have a few sheafs to do now and really need some....Cheers....
godfather
08-06-2007, 12:42
Bentstick
Do you have any more of the leather left?
any news on the leather bs its been a few months now ?
Anything happening on the leather BS....? I keep holding off from buying some cos I dont want to say to you, I dont need any now, but I have a few sheafs to do now and really need some....Cheers....
Please take me off the list (if I am, was, still still on it) I need some leather now for a load of projects and I cannot wait any longer as nothing seems to be happening. I am off to la prevo to buy me some.......
Mr_Rimps
17-06-2007, 01:19
I'm afraid I must follow Jon's lead here Bentstick.
Please remove me from the list.
Gailainne
01-07-2007, 17:32
Hi, I sent a PM last week with no response, I have everything I need tool wise for the projects I want to do, only the leather is outstanding.
FYI I suggested that since a couple of people had dropped out I was willing to buy a shoulder of grade 1 approx 10 ft to help out, rather than the 3 ft originally asked for.
I really do appreciate the work you've put into this, rather than leaving you with a hall full of skins and the cost, I would rather you responded and let us help you sort this out.
Tell us how much there is, what the original buyers ordered, how much to post on top of cost, I'm sure we could empty your hall in no time.
Regards
Stephen
could you please remove me from this group buy its a shame we have had to wait for so long with no reply :confused:
bent-stick
19-07-2007, 08:21
Sorry everyone. Other than 1 more person outstanding who has been very patient and I've managed to sort out I'm not going to be able to do this.
Unforseen circumstances have meant that I just haven't been around to sort it. And I didn't realise what sort of monster it was going to be.
If and when I do get to it I'll stick some chunks on member classifieds
Sorry folks, it seemed like a good idea at the time...
everyone. Other than 1 more person outstanding who has been very patient and I've managed to sort out I'm not going to be able to do this.
Unforseen circumstances have meant that I just haven't been around to sort it. And I didn't realise what sort of monster it was going to be.
If and when I do get to it I'll stick some chunks on member classifieds
folks, it seemed like a good idea at the time...
Hi BS
I still think it was a good (and very big-hearted) idea. Thanks for trying anyway. For the record, I'm happy to wait for the piece I asked for (or even more if you're wanting to get rid of it and make your money back). Just PM me when you're ready - no stress.
Cheers
Rat