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godfather
05-02-2007, 14:47
I was watching Ray Mears last night and spotted a triangular pot stand that he used with a frying pan. Anyone know where I can get one or something similar?
Thanks
Should be easy enough to make or have made, 3 pieces of 1/2" flat bar (used on edge) 3 pieces of 1/4" diameter round bar.
Bend the ends of the flat bar at the angle required to make the triangle when assembled, leave enough bar on the bend for 2 holes, One for the leg, one outside of that as a leg stop so the thing doesnt open flat.
Hammer a flat onto one end of each round bar.
Drill the two holes in each end of the flat bar, through the outside hole rivet with a spacer just a bit wider than the leg top.
Drill a hole in each flattened end of the round bar, slightly lower than centre (as near the edge as you can get still leaving metal for strength). Inboard hole should be central or just slightly above centre.
Gently rivet the leg to the flat bar between the bars (gently, dont forget it has to move :D ).
Legs should pivot out to the 'stop' rivet at a slight outward angle, that should be secure. Should pack flat when not in use.
I would suggest drawing the triangle onto paper or cardboard as a template for the angles.
godfather
05-02-2007, 15:50
Thanks Steve,
this would be way beyond my skill levels. Can you recommend someone?
I dont know anyone personally, try local blacksmith, small engineering works?
how about something like this?
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8991/trianglerackop0.jpg
appologies for the poor drawing, i'm no technical artist
in explination it is essentially 3 round bar legs with an eye bent at one end big enought to allow the bar to fit through and a 90 degree bend part way down. once all 'threaded' together it would provide a triangular support wtht should be self supporting!?
I have to admit this is just an idea - i've never made one but I would think it should work.........
British Red
05-02-2007, 16:27
Similar small triangular stands are used in laboratories all over. Any god lab supply shop should have them
Red
GordonEndersby
05-02-2007, 17:55
g4ghb Graham,
Your drawing looks remarkably like link-stake gardening plant supports.
They are thick wire bent into an L shape with a loop to hook in the next stake.
Usualy come plastic coated and in various sizes.
Most garden centres or web stores stock them.
Im not sure if they would be stiff enough though.
Ive got some sitting in the garden.
Gordon
I was watching Ray Mears last night and spotted a triangular pot stand that he used with a frying pan. Anyone know where I can get one or something similar?
Thanks
If it is the one I think, try andrew at outdoorcode as if my sources are correct, he is trying to get them imported
This site was flagged up by another member recently - not triangular but rectangular. Any good?
http://www.4x4touring-gear.com/ProductCategory.aspx?id=104
I was talking with Andrew about this trivet from Norway
http://www.eagle-sharp.no/filestore/BLFYR.jpg?size=400x5000&force=false
Not quite what Ray was using but very useful.
I don't know if he's had any luck yet.
bikething
05-02-2007, 21:45
last i heard he had something in progress :)
godfather
06-02-2007, 10:39
Thanks everyone,
will let you know what I come up with. :You_Rock_
Eric_Methven
07-02-2007, 01:36
Three steel tent pegs poked into the firepit - all the same height, place pot on top.
Eric
Singeblister
07-02-2007, 01:53
That thing instantly reminded me of the old triangle cowboys used to bash when the grub was up , very easy thing to make I would think I will try and get some round mild and have a bash at it :)
That thing instantly reminded me of the old triangle cowboys used to bash when the grub was up , very easy thing to make I would think I will try and get some round mild and have a bash at it :)
got one of those (great-great-grandfather used it, probably 150 years old), made by the local blacksmith from one piece of steel: heated up to white glow and treated with a hammer on the anvil - no bolts, no rivetts, nothing fancy. Just designed to do the job.
Perfect for trecking with a packhorse - unfortunately a bit heavy for the backpack :rolleyes:
Btw, small rocks make a nice pot stand (which has to be three-legged, four or more legs make it tippy - regardless what material the stand is made from)
fred gordon
07-02-2007, 12:45
Similar small triangular stands are used in laboratories all over. Any god lab supply shop should have them
Red
How about this. It also seems to flat pack for carrying. www.laboratory-supply.com/tripodstand.html :)
bikething
07-02-2007, 14:32
How about this. It also seems to flat pack for carrying. www.laboratory-supply.com/tripodstand.html :)
interesting...
but i don't fancy the chances of those nuts / threads after a few heat / cool cycles over a fire...
fred gordon
07-02-2007, 14:46
interesting...
but i don't fancy the chances of those nuts / threads after a few heat / cool cycles over a fire...
As a lab stand for use over a bunsen burner I thought it would probably have been made to withstand a few 100 deg. But who knows? Looks the part though :D
bikething
07-02-2007, 14:55
i'm thinking that a bunsen burner heats whatever is on the stand in a small area in the middle of the triangle, whereas a campfire heats everything above it i.e. the whole stand..
edit: had a message from ODC that he may have trivets like waylands sometime next week :) - having seen waylands in the flesh i want one..maybe 2 :lmao:
Well, if you don't mind the work of finding a couple logs or rocks to put your grill on, Purcell Trench makes some pretty sweet grills.
Purcell Trench (http://www.purcelltrench.com/index.htm)
i'm thinking that a bunsen burner heats whatever is on the stand in a small area in the middle of the triangle, whereas a campfire heats everything above it i.e. the whole stand..
Bunsen burners, with something sitting ontop of the tripod support, will heat the whole top, which do get very hot. I suspect much hotter than it would get in a normal camp fire, presumming the tripods are engineered to cope with a slightly misplaced bunsen should easily cope with a campfire
<talk amongst yourselves while I use a search engine......>
From http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3557077.stm
"Forest or brush fires usually only reach temperatures of around 300 degrees Celsius. But hearths or campfires can reach temperatures of 600 degrees Celsius or more. "
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(temperatu re)
"1170 K, large log fire flames
1670 K, blue candle flame
1808 K, melting point of bound iron (lower for steel)
1870 K, Bunsen burner flame "
( take off 273 to convert to degrees centegrade )
Is it's big enough to be stable would be my worry.
Singeblister
07-02-2007, 21:34
got one of those (great-great-grandfather used it, probably 150 years old), made by the local blacksmith from one piece of steel: heated up to white glow and treated with a hammer on the anvil - no bolts, no rivetts, nothing fancy. Just designed to do the job.
Perfect for trecking with a packhorse - unfortunately a bit heavy for the backpack :rolleyes:
Btw, small rocks make a nice pot stand (which has to be three-legged, four or more legs make it tippy - regardless what material the stand is made from)
Sounds cool , could you post a picture ?
Gailainne
07-02-2007, 21:57
interesting...
but i don't fancy the chances of those nuts / threads after a few heat / cool cycles over a fire...
Simple solution is to have the legs with a shoulder, and a smaller pin above that fits into holes on the triangle, the weight of the pot, or whatever will stabilise it, no nuts to loose.
Sounds cool , could you post a picture ?
unfortunately no pic, you´ll get an idea on
www.attergau-zeitreise.at/kueche99.htm
scroll down a bit and you´ll find "Dreifuß" and it´s deluxe version with adjustable heat: the "Pfannknecht"
both are made from one piece of steel - forging was no problem in those old days of no mass production with low labor cost. Drilling holes (for attaching rivetts or bolts) in hard metals was a major operation, not to mention the fabrication of threads on nuts and bolts ....
It looks like Andrew ( Outdoorcode ) has managed to get these over from Norway at last.
http://outdoorcode.co.uk/catalog/images/trivet.jpg
I got one in Norway last year and it's been very good.
In fact I might just get another..... :bluThinki