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ScottC
02-05-2004, 20:08
Im hoping to buy the Woodlore Micarta Knife in the future and im just wondering if the sheath that comes with it has a bit to fit the firesteel in it :?:

Martyn
02-05-2004, 20:25
nope. :)

JFW
02-05-2004, 20:51
Young Bushman,

the micarta woodlore sheath does not have a firesteel tab but if you wind some paracord or similar sound the sheath you can create a space for a steel. This also gives you a length of useable cord (10m will fit nicely) in an emergency.
I'm left handed so most sheaths are not suitable for me so I either wear the Knife baldric style or make my own.
Do a search of previous postings using "baldric(k)" to see some great examples - I think its this site or it could be British Blades, well worth a visit anyway
I can reccomend the WS micarta Woodlore, it's a great piece of kit and a trusty tool.

Cheers

JFW

ScottC
02-05-2004, 21:05
Im also left-handed so does this mean the sheath provided by woodlore isn't suitible :?:

JakeR
02-05-2004, 21:45
If you have it on your right side it would be fine. Or you caould put it on your left and take it out/put it in backwards. Dont let the sheath problems put you off as it is a great knife.

Jake

JFW
04-05-2004, 10:12
Yea I agree with Jake, being left handed you have to develop techniques for using anything that is designed for use by righties. Or design your own.

The knife sits perfectly in my left hand and the sheath is only there to hold the knife and to stop me cutting myself when not using the knife.

Don't let it put you off.

Cheers

JFW

sargey
04-05-2004, 23:33
sorry mate, but us poor hard done by lefties just have to learn to make do with righty sheathes, or pay extra for custom sheathes.

cheers, and.

Gary
04-05-2004, 23:40
Aint that the truth - still Sargey I'm sure you have enough knives for both hands!

ScottC
05-05-2004, 21:06
Thanks for your input u lot.

JakeR
05-05-2004, 21:41
Hey you gotta be 16 to buy a knife :wink: only joking. you sound safer than a lot of people i know.

What other knives do you own?

Perhaps buy a cheaper one to make mistakes on before you buy the woodlore. Or buy the woodlare but try things out on the cheaper one.

Cheers,

Jake

JakeR
05-05-2004, 21:42
Hey you gotta be 16 to buy a knife :wink: only joking. you sound safer than a lot of people i know.

What other knives do you own?

Perhaps buy a cheaper one to make mistakes on before you buy the woodlore. Or buy the woodlare but try things out on the cheaper one.

BTW I like your idea

Cheers,

Jake

ScottC
06-05-2004, 19:14
The knives i've had before werent really suitable for what i wanted locking blade designs, too brittle blade, metal handle etc. I'm looking for a knife that will last a long time and thats worth the time it would take to sharpen it. Perhaps I should wait a year or so before i go looking into buying the woodlore micarta so that i can fully master things like sharpening and safety and it would take a time to get the money together anyway. Can anyone suggest a knife that would be not too expensive and suitable until i decide to look into the woodlore Micarta?


P.S I've had cutting tools safety instruction on courses ive done in the past and studied them in books. and i havent cut my finger off..yet :shock:

cheers

JakeR
06-05-2004, 19:25
Have a look at the reviews section on the homepage. As always, the lapp puukko is a very god choice. And at £30 it wont break the bank.

Cheers,

Jake

bushwacker bob
06-05-2004, 23:47
a frost clipper from survival school would only cost about 10 quid, cheap but well tried and tested and probably the commonest knife to practice your skills with :-D

Gary
07-05-2004, 09:25
The frost clipper with a carbon steel blade or the Kellam Finnish utility knife (which has the same blade as the Puukko) - I think kellam call this the U2, are very safe and suitable training knives.

If you want a little more flare then a Lapp Puukko is also good.

Once your confident using and more importantly sharpening one of these knives then you should consider buying a more expensive knife - if you havent realised by then that you dont need to spend a fortune on a good knife.

At the end of the day experience will teach you much so buy and use a training knife (the frost clipper is issued to the Swedish army so if must be robust) first.

Unfortunately in the world of knives - like teenagers clothing - your often just paying for the brand name and not necessarily a knife that is suitable for bushcraft or (as everybody is different) you personally a knife that is too big or small, too heavy or light for you will tire you or make you careless and that is how accidnets happen.

Experience counts for so much I really can not stress that enough.

JFW
07-05-2004, 14:36
I purchased the Frost 780 from survival school to practice sharpening technique and usage prior to buying my WS Woodlore- nice utility knife takes and holds a good edge, well it would if I could give it one. The sheath fits both left and right handed use. For a tenner to your door you wont go far wrong.

Cheers

JFW

JFW
07-05-2004, 14:45
Talking tosh :roll: it was Bushgear I bought it from and you have the choice of SS or Carbon blade - I went for the carbon. It was only 8 quid delivered to my door.

Cheers

JFW

Justin Time
07-05-2004, 22:03
The knives i've had before werent really suitable for what i wanted locking blade designs, too brittle blade, metal handle etc. I'm looking for a knife that will last a long time and thats worth the time it would take to sharpen it. Perhaps I should wait a year or so before i go looking into buying the woodlore micarta so that i can fully master things like sharpening and safety and it would take a time to get the money together anyway. Can anyone suggest a knife that would be not too expensive and suitable until i decide to look into the woodlore Micarta?


P.S I've had cutting tools safety instruction on courses ive done in the past and studied them in books. and i havent cut my finger off..yet :shock:

cheers

When I was your age my Dad bought me a gorgeous lock knife at the Game Fair, of course I knew absolutely nothing about knives, did all the daft stuff like chucking it at trees, or into the ground, don't remeber cutting much stuff with it, never mind thinking about what it was made of or the proper way to use it. I'm impressed that you've been on courses etc, what courses have you done?

Whilst thinking about age, I'm sure I've seen shops say not only won't they sell to under 16s but won't sell to adults who want to give the knife to under 16s, is that going beyond the law?

JakeR
07-05-2004, 23:02
I have a problem with things like that. I look young for my age, i sometimes get mistaken for an under 16 yr old. Which aint good at my age, especially if your with certain company :wink: . But i can remember buying a knife with my dad at 12 and the shopkeeper didnt have a problem.

If your parents buy for you, it is fine. Like alcohol you can get your parents to buy for you with a meal (or your mates :wink: ). I think the shopkeeper has no right to say no to someone over 18....

Perhaps im wrong...!

Cheers,

Jake

Adi007
07-05-2004, 23:11
Knife law, as it currently stands with relation to purchase:



Offensive Weapons Act 1996

141A. - (1) Any person who sells to a person under the age of sixteen years an article to which this section applies shall be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months, or a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale, or both.

(2) Subject to subsection (3) below, this section applies to-

(a) any knife, knife blade or razor blade,
(b) any axe, and
(c) any other article which has a blade or which is sharply pointed and which is made or adapted for use for causing injury to the person.
(3) This section does not apply to any article described in-

(a) section 1 of the Restriction of Offensive Weapons Act 1959,
(b) an order made under section 141(2) of this Act, or
(c) an order made by the Secretary of State under this section.
(4) It shall be a defence for a person charged with an offence under subsection (1) above to prove that he took all reasonable precautions and exercised all due diligence to avoid the commission of the offence.

(5) The power to make an order under this section shall be exercisable by statutory instrument which shall be subject to annulment in pursuance of a resolution of either House of Parliament."

And we have this ...


The Criminal Justice Act 1988 (Offensive Weapons) (Exemption) Order 1996

Section 141A(1) of the Criminal Justice Act 1988 (sale of knives or certain articles with blade or point to persons under sixteen) shall not apply to —
(a) a folding pocket-knife if the cutting edge of its blade does not exceed 7.62 centimetres (3 inches).
(b) razor blades permanently enclosed in a cartridge or housing where less than 2 millimetres of any blade is exposed beyond the plane which intersects the highest point of the surfaces preceding and following such blades.

sargey
08-05-2004, 00:08
ah, nice to see that's been cleared up nicely without any contradictions then! :-?

cheers, and.

Adi007
08-05-2004, 08:57
ah, nice to see that's been cleared up nicely without any contradictions then! :-?

cheers, and.

Yeah ... you can always rely on governments for clarity, can't you!?! :roll:

Tony
08-05-2004, 09:21
If people want to know more about the law and edged tools you can have a look at this article http://www.bushcraftuk.co.uk/articles/knife_law.html


Or visit here on British Blades where they have had extensive conversations on many aspects of the Law in the UK
http://www.britishblades.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=39