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Adi007
26-04-2004, 23:47
Chicken of the woods (Laetiporus Sulphureus)

Switch the TV on to a wild food program and watch for long enough you will eventually come across mention of the bracket fungus "Chicken of the woods".

http://www.bluewillowpages.com/mushroomexpert/laetiporus_sulphureus.html

It is edible ... but.

Firstly, you should never eat it raw, always cook it.
Secondly, some people are allergic to is as it contains three alkaloids (hordenine, tyramine and N-methyltyramine) that can cause an upset stomach and dizziness in some people who eat it. If you are going to try it for the first time, eat only a small portion of young specimens.

You should find this fungus on both decayed and living trees (oaks are a favorite) from May through to Sept.

Happy and safe foraging!

ditchfield
27-04-2004, 21:34
Secondly, some people are allergic to is as it contains three alkaloids (hordenine, tyramine and N-methyltyramine) that can cause an upset stomach and dizziness in some people who eat it. If you are going to try it for the first time, eat only a small portion of young specimens.

And doesn't Sargey know it. From what i've heard, he had some nasty experiences :-D.

C_Claycomb
28-04-2004, 08:13
AHHHH!! That explains much! A friend of ours gave my parents and I some, we didn't rightly know what to do with it at the time and didn't get round to cooking it for a few days. When we finally ate it, we all felt quite queasy. We thought it was because we had left it too long, but since it was in the fridge I don't think that could have been it.

Not something I want to experiment with again anyway.

Thanks for the info!

PC2K
28-04-2004, 08:53
why is it called the chicken of the woods, i thought that mushrooms containless less calorie than you spend finding them. Here are 2 quote's from combat-online.com :
A really good big mushroom identification book is a great aid to survival preparation. Tear out the pages one by one, crumple them into little balls and practice lighting fires. Lighting fires is a useful skill. Identifying mushrooms isn't.




The risk might be worth it if mushrooms had some nutritional value. They don't. You will expend more energy carrying a pound of mushrooms 100yds than you will get from eating them. Add in the genuine risk of snuffing it, or at least being "hors de combat" for a couple of days, and eating wild mushrooms becomes the survival cook's equivalent of shooting off your toes.



http://www.combat-online.com/cook.htm

Adi007
28-04-2004, 09:00
You're not wrong ...

A 100g (4oz) portion of mushrooms provide about 13 calories ...

But, they are a treasure trove of vitamins (especially B12), minerals (potassium and phosphorous), protein and fiber.

And they taste good (well, some do!). :lol:

boaty
28-04-2004, 09:04
You're not wrong ...

A 100g (4oz) portion of mushrooms provide about 13 calories ...

But, they are a treasure trove of vitamins (especially B12), minerals (potassium and phosphorous), protein and fiber.

And they taste good (well, some do!). :lol:

I can see the advertising now...


Mushrooms, the wonder slimming aid. Eat your way to a thin, happy, healthy life. Boost your earning power, be dynamite in bed. Mushrooms, the food that has everything.

More seriously, for long term health, rather than short term survival, mushrooms are a top addition to your food!

Adi007
28-04-2004, 09:08
You're not wrong ...

A 100g (4oz) portion of mushrooms provide about 13 calories ...

But, they are a treasure trove of vitamins (especially B12), minerals (potassium and phosphorous), protein and fiber.

And they taste good (well, some do!). :lol:

I can see the advertising now...


Mushrooms, the wonder slimming aid. Eat your way to a thin, happy, healthy life. Boost your earning power, be dynamite in bed. Mushrooms, the food that has everything.

More seriously, for long term health, rather than short term survival, mushrooms are a top addition to your food!
:rolmao:
The mushroom society got to you too!

Stuart
28-04-2004, 09:42
If your in a survival situation and whilst out foraging or looking for other things you come across a fungus you can readily identify as edible then take it and add it to your food

you didn’t waste calories finding it because you were doing other things at the time anyway, and the added taste and texture will boost your moral
and some like giant puff balls (or ones that appear in large crops like oyster mushrooms) can be very filling, again boosting moral

to say that fungus uses more calories to collect than they give is to think of obtaining fungus in the same light as hunting, but fungus does not run away so if you see one and pick it up you expended no calories in doing so

for example if you run around all day trying to catch a rabbit with a spear then you will almost defiantly use more calories catching it than you obtain by eating it (this is why active hunting should be reserved for large animals that will feed you for several days)

But if you lay a trap line it will work catching rabbits for weeks with very little expenditure of energy on your part

with fungus all you have to do is spot them! which uses up very little energy at all if you were collecting water or looking for fire wood at the time

but if you couldn’t identify it then you miss out on an easily obtained snack

Also remember that the only reason the fungus weighs so much in relation to its calorie content is that it is almost entirely water, if you dry them out or collect them dry (as jews ear can often be found) you will find that they now provide more calories then is expended by carrying there weight

a sad but obvious fact is that carring water will always expend far more calories than it provides you (nothing) but it does keep you alive

Klipspringer
28-04-2004, 12:32
Hi Stuart,

I really don't mean to sound cynical, but if you were in a survival situation would you really fill your stomach with food that has very low calorific value just for moral? Maybe you would burn more calories digesting this food than you would get out of it. Personally, for moral I would light myself a big mamma of a fire!!

Do you think that proteins (catching rabbits etc.) are more important than carbohydrates (plants, roots etc) in a survival situation?

Carbohydrates are an essential fuel for the body, everybody will burn all the carb reserves within 24hrs. When these reserves are gone you will start to feel very tired, have headaches, feel cold and have an extremely
slow thought process and slow physical reactions. the last thing I want in a survival situation!

The word "corohydrate" comes from the fact that glucose is made up of carbon and water. When digesting carbs, water is released into the body.

The simplist carbohydrate is glucose. Glucose, also called "blood sugar" and "dextrose", flows in the bloodstream so the it is available to every cell in the body. your cells absorb glucose and convert it into energy to power most of the machinery in the human cell.

Also the body needs carbohydrates to digest protein.

In a long term situation I may seek protein and fat from wild amimals, but do most game animals contain much fat?

I have a friend who is a game keeper and he says that a layman would stand very little chance of catching rabbits without understanding their enviroment. Even when he puts a line of snares down he very seldom catches anything. He also mentioned that without proper training you risk the change of catching other animals such as badgers and foxes, which in my eyes would be terrible.

your thoughts would be appreciated. :lol:

Stew
28-04-2004, 12:42
I really dont mean to sound cynical, but you were in a survival situation would you really fill your stomach with food that has very low calorific value just for moral? Maybe you would burn more calories digesting this food than you would get out of it. Personally, for moral I would light myself a big mamma of a fire!!


You can't put a price on good moral, IMHO. By having flavoursome food, even if there's not many calories, you can transform a bland meal into something great. Can you imagine eating bland, flavourless food every day?

As Stuart said, you don't necessarily have to expend lots of energy in gathering the fungi.



Maybe you would burn more calories digesting this food than you would get out of it.

I doubt it! :-?



Personally, for moral I would light myself a big mamma of a fire!!


Yeah, good to an extent but it's not going to keep you going forever!

bushblade
28-04-2004, 13:27
Hi Stuart,

I really don't mean to sound cynical, but if you were in a survival situation would you really fill your stomach with food that has very low calorific value just for moral? Maybe you would burn more calories digesting this food than you would get out of it. Personally, for moral I would light myself a big mamma of a fire!!

your thoughts would be appreciated. :lol:

After just 24 hrs in such a situation, with no food and little water, would you be saying the same thing?

Stuart
28-04-2004, 14:10
I really don't mean to sound cynical, but if you were in a survival situation would you really fill your stomach with food that has very low calorific value just for moral?
Maybe you would burn more calories digesting this food than you would get out of it. Personally, for moral I would light myself a big mamma of a fire!!

Yes I would, I would fill my stomach with every food i could find especially if it was tasty and filling and boosts my moral

Lighting a 'big mamma fire' would result in more heat out put than you require and would consume a geat deal of fuel requiring you to make more frequent trips to gather fire wood (hard work) using up more calories

"the ignorant man makes a big fire and sits far away, the wise man makes a small fire and sits close"


Do you think that proteins (catching rabbits etc.) are more important than carbohydrates (plants, roots etc) in a survival situation?

No I dont (I dont see where I implied that i did?) and much of what you say with regards to this is correct


I have a friend who is a game keeper and he says that a layman would stand very little chance of catching rabbits without understanding their enviroment. Even when he puts a line of snares down he very seldom catches anything. He also mentioned that without proper training you risk the change of catching other animals such as badgers and foxes, which in my eyes would be terrible.

the idea behind practising a particular skill is to become more effecient at it than a Layperson, which is why I practice

whilst i agree that snares should be layed with utmost care to avoid catching foxes and badgers, if you were in a survival situation then would you be overly concerened that you caught a fox or badger??

but that aside worth noting that we partake in bushcraft as a hobby and passtime, whilst the knowleadge is useful for survival situations this is not the sole reason why we do it.
much of the time we are purly out to enjoy nature on its own terms which includes eating tasty fungi when we find them

In a survival situation food would be the last thing on my mind after the first three days I would no longer feel hungry (when the effects of keytosis start) and i would suffer no long term ill effects going without food as long as 14 day as my body would use the subcutaneous layers of fat as fuel
during this time many people notice that their senses are hightend

i would be far more concerned with water, shelter, even salt etc

but as i said this is bushcraft I'm doing it for fun not to go hungery

the naughty boy
28-04-2004, 14:18
calm down chaps ,lol,after all it all boils down to opinion dosent it. i havent the first clue about fungus or mushrooms and i found that post about pulling out the pages and practising lighting fires hilarious.does picking mushrooms turn you into a fun-gi?

what was this thread about again?

i came across this fungus thing on a tree last week .it was a big flat fan type thingy,looked like it had been there for a while as it was as hard as the hobs!too risky in my book.i,ll stick to snotters and chewing my toenails.are there any calories in them?

as for chicken of the woods ...id rather stick to chicken of the kentucky bucket ta.

theres really no need. :roll:

Stuart
28-04-2004, 14:27
Naughtly boy what you found is most likley a Birch polypore
you cant eat it but it can be used as a strop (its also know as a razor strop fungi)


http://www.fs.fed.us/na/durham/coopforest/stewardship/graphics/edible_fungi_images/birch_polypore.jpg

the naughty boy
28-04-2004, 14:35
or a frisbee!
cheers i,ll know not to eat that one, no matter how much encouragement i get! 8-)
i had a bad experience with mushrooms at school when my m8 gave me a large handfull of mushrooms .turned out to be magic mushrooms which apparently contained something like LSD. we were both last seen skipping and dancing along the annadale embankment past our school by the physics teacher whose class we were supposed to be attending.
ever see doc martins curl up like pixie boots before your very eyes?

needless to say i only did it once and now steer clear of shrooms in the wild...you never know :hurra:

PC2K
28-04-2004, 17:04
personally i got none training or knowledge about mushrooms, so i'm not eating one i found somewhere, just because i have seen a picture of it somewhere. i can't seam to remeber how things looks like anyways.

Kath
28-04-2004, 17:37
"the ignorant man makes a big fire and sits far away, the wise man makes a small fire and sits close"
A wise saying! Personally I always find that a small fire is better for moral anyway (especially in a survival situation). Partly because a small fire is more controllable and so I can relax more. But also because big fires consume you in the bright light making the darkness around seem darker and so more alarming, againn less relaxing. :wink:

Klipspringer
29-04-2004, 19:14
In a survival situation food would be the last thing on my mind after the first three days I would no longer feel hungry (when the effects of keytosis start) and i would suffer no ill effects going without food as long as 14 day as my body would use the subcutaneous layers of fat as fuel
during this time many people notice that their senses are hightend

[b]After 14 days without food your body is deficient of vitamins B & C, your blood sugar and fat levels are dangerously low, your nerve and muscle function deteriorates, and your heartbeat becomes erratic. At this stage your increased lack of co-ordination would be a very serious threat to your safety, and will also find it very difficult to drink.

These symptoms could be avoided with some simple carbohydrates.


i would be far more concerned with water, shelter and salt

How will you make your water safe to drink, maybe on my big fire?
How many calories will be burnt making a shelter? probably more than making a fire.

Whats the salt for?? seasoning your bland mushrooms??

Adi007
29-04-2004, 19:56
After 14 days without food your body is deficient of vitamins B & C, your blood sugar and fat levels are dangerously low, your nerve and muscle function deteriorates, and your heartbeat becomes erratic. At this stage your increased lack of co-ordination would be a very serious threat to your safety, and will also find it very difficult to drink.

There's lots of myths surrounding the human body and how long (or little) it can go without food. There are many examples from many sources of people going for extended periods without food. 7 - 14 days shouldn't have a serious effect on most people. A few days without water on the other hand ...


How will you make your water safe to drink, maybe on my big fire?

Well, on its own a big fire isn't going to help with water purification ...


How many calories will be burnt making a shelter? probably more than making a fire.

Depends on the terrain and the availability of firewood. A shelter could last weeks while a pile of firewood is a limited resource ...


Whats the salt for?? seasoning your bland mushrooms??

Salt is for electrolytic balance. As for the mushrooms, well, they might not be egg and chips but at 13 cals per 100g, if they are easy to find they are easy calories.

Stuart
29-04-2004, 20:32
[b]After 14 days without food your body is deficient of vitamins B & C, your blood sugar and fat levels are dangerously low, your nerve and muscle function deteriorates, and your heartbeat becomes erratic. At this stage your increased lack of co-ordination would be a very serious threat to your safety, and will also find it very difficult to drink.

yes after 14 days you will have used up most of your bodys reserves of fat and be suffering from vitamin deficances, you will start to suffer serious effects to your health

however when this is looked at in relation to survival times for exposer which can be measured in hours in cold climates, and without water 3-7 days or with out salt which in hot climates can lead to heat stroke and death between 1-3 days
(provided you had enough water to live that long)

compared to these things food is not that important!!!! lack of shelter, water, and salt will kill you if you do not attend to them first


These symptoms could be avoided with some simple carbohydrates.

what makes you think that i disagree with you that carbohyrates are the most important sorts of survival food?? where have i intimated this??

my statment is simply that i would eat any fungi i see that i can identify as edible, not just dismiss it because it does not contain carbohydrates

I also stated that food is very low on a list of priorities and that if you are in a situation where you will have a lack of food you will survive longer by fasting for the first three days and letting your body switch over to starvation mode where it will use food in a more effeicant manner


How will you make your water safe to drink, maybe on my big fire?

I simple stated that there was no need for a huge fire, a small fire will purify water just as well and use less calories to maintain


How many calories will be burnt making a shelter? probably more than making a fire

when did i say i was against fires??? (though i am against huge fires with no more practical value than a small fire)

Stuart
29-04-2004, 20:38
[b]After 14 days without food your body is deficient of vitamins B & C, your blood sugar and fat levels are dangerously low, your nerve and muscle function deteriorates, and your heartbeat becomes erratic. At this stage your increased lack of co-ordination would be a very serious threat to your safety, and will also find it very difficult to drink.

yes after 14 days you will have used up most of your bodies reserves of fat and be suffering from vitamin deficiencies, you will start to suffer serious effects to your health

however when this is looked at in relation to survival times for exposure which can be measured in hours in cold climates, and without water 3-7 days or with out salt which in hot climates can lead to heat stroke and death between 1-3 days
(provided you had enough water to live that long)

compared to these things food is not that important!!!! lack of shelter, water, and salt will kill you if you do not attend to them first


These symptoms could be avoided with some simple carbohydrates.

what makes you think that i disagree with you that carbohydrates are the most important sorts of survival food?? where have i intimated this??

my statement is simply that i would eat any fungi i see that i can identify as edible, not just dismiss it because it does not contain carbohydrates

I also stated that food is very low on a list of priorities and that if you are in a situation where you will have a lack of food you will survive longer by fasting for the first three days and letting your body switch over to starvation mode where it will use food in a more efficient manner


How will you make your water safe to drink, maybe on my big fire?

when i said that i would consider things such water shelter and salt

I simple stated that there was no need for a huge fire, a small fire will purify water just as well and use less calories to maintain


How many calories will be burnt making a shelter? probably more than making a fire

when did i say i was against fires??? (though i am against huge fires with no more practical value than a small fire)


Whats the salt for?? seasoning your bland mushrooms??

may i suggest that you explore the answer to this yourself, you may find you learn an interesting fact

Stuart
29-04-2004, 20:41
The easiest way to obtain salt in the wild is from animal blood

there is no danger of you receiving to much salt if obtained in this way

Adi007
29-04-2004, 20:44
The easiest way to obtain salt in the wild is from animal blood

there is no danger of you receiving to much salt if obtained in this way
Beat me to it!

Back in the days before Tesco and Safeways people managed to get everything they wanted from the wild ... it's just a matter of knowing where to look!

Adi007
29-04-2004, 21:01
So now your body is in starvation mode how exactly are you going to go chasing animals?


Here in the western world were very few people go to bed hungry and fewer still know the meaning of starvation it easy to overlook the fact that there are still places in the world where if you don't go out and contend with the elements and other animals for food, you won't get any.

Starvation mode isn't crippling, it's the way the body knows best to prolong our ability to go out and seek food so that we can go about our business of living.

jason01
29-04-2004, 21:02
Hmmmm TROLL!

Tony
29-04-2004, 21:23
Hmmmm TROLL!

Which ones do you think? I recon there are a few of them :rolmao:

Adi007
29-04-2004, 21:34
Fee .. Fi ... Fo ... Fhum ....

Oh, hang on, it's giants that say that, not trolls!

Tony
29-04-2004, 21:40
There seems to be quite a bit of traffic on here from Plumpton, I'm surprised you guys havn't run into Woodcraft school that teach there. I expect that they could really point you in the right direction and give you much more indepth answers than we can. It may be worth your while looking them up. :wink:

the naughty boy
30-04-2004, 10:11
can i get a ringside seat for the final bout?

steve a
30-04-2004, 10:28
I'll be a cornerman, his only gathering mushrooms,for Gods sake!!.
Many more people would be interested in the joys of foraging in the woodlands than an theroretical debate on calorific values in a senario that whilst possible,is unlikely.

Adi007
30-04-2004, 11:07
I am on the Bushcraft Leadership Course at Plumpton College. Myself and other students here are only speaking our minds and questioning some information posted on this site.

Hmmmm TROLL!

Sorry did I miss something, am I doing something wrong?

That's great ... nothing at all worng with that.

Anyway, I feel that this thread has digressed wildly from the original post I made about Chicken in the Woods ...

If you come across one and wat to try it out, find a young, fresh specimen adn if it's your first time trying one, eat only a little.

the naughty boy
30-04-2004, 17:03
what is a troll? im sure it aint one of those fairytale chaps who sit under bridges is it?

jason01
30-04-2004, 19:01
From a google search:-

To post an ostensibly sincere article on an Internet newsgroup for the real purpose of eliciting a reaction from readers. A well-crafted troll may not be detected at all the first time around, in which case the poster usually follows it up with an more outrageous and less plausible variation.

A troublemaker who deliberately posts provocative, hostile or annoying messages in a newsgroup or mailing list with the specific intent of starting a flamewar. The practice is known as trolling.

Sorry if I was mistaken Greyowl and friends but you did seem to be playing devils advocate!

I'm making a mushroom pie tonight ;-)

Jason

Hoodoo
30-04-2004, 23:50
Hey folks, DON"T EAT THE MUSHROOMS. Because that leaves more for me. :-D

http://www4.gvsu.edu/triert/images/morels1.jpg

http://www4.gvsu.edu/triert/images/morels2.jpg

Stuart
03-05-2004, 15:10
Grayowl22
Sorry but everything I said was genuine

If this is true and you really don’t understand:

1. The importance of salt for survival
2. That making unnecessarily large fires is a waste of energy
3. That you should take advantage of any and every food you can identify as edible
4. The reality of starvation mode
5. That you should always choose trapping over active hunting

then I suggest you ask these questions to your lecturer before stating your opinion as fact in a deliberately argumentative manner


So if i ever get stranded at sea is it ok to drink salt water?!

I feel that you already know the answer to this and are still deliberately attempting to bait, but the answer is simple NO


but I did think this was an OPEN forum

it is an open forum but it will not tolerate miss use to get a rise out of someone

enjoy your course

Stuart
03-05-2004, 15:13
Hoodoo mmmmmmmmm morel!! I had some last week stuffed with goats cheese and chives and baked

Ed
03-05-2004, 16:36
Please confine your posts to constructive comments. Please refrain from having a go at people personaly. Flaming or having a go at 'anyone' by 'anyone' will result in this thread getting locked.

Thankyou for your time.

Ed
(Forum Moderator)

Powderburn
03-05-2004, 18:59
Morels and morel hunting are two of the finer things in life. This is the time when they start popping up here in Michigan, but I probably won't get to do any shrooming this year. :cry: The horror.

Justin Time
03-05-2004, 19:39
It might be worth reflecting on a couple of things when posting. The forum here is a bunch of people getting together who all share an enthusiasm for bushcraft. Some have more expertise than others but claiming expertise and authority can get annoying, especially if no supporting evidence for opinions is offered.

It might be good to think of our posts as part of a conversation by the camp-fire. The point of the conversation is more than just about correcting others... exploring different opinions is good, providing facts to help that exploration is also good especially if opinions are offered which might be harmful if acted on.

I'm always most impressed by people who can tell me, "this is what works for me, and this is how it might be different for you" of course there's a place for facts from books, no point in depriving ourselves of that store of human knowledge, but I suspect that that some of the "facts" that people express, and that are taught in various schools and courses, are really just opinions which might have little substance.

Wayne
03-05-2004, 21:46
Andrew.

I can't agree more. The beauty of a forum such as this is that it allows people with a variety of backgrounds a chance to meet and share their views regardless of their location or experience level.

I teach Ninjutsu. It took me along time to realise that a technique that works for me being short and fat will not always work for someone else. However both approaches are not incorrect. It is the result that counts within limits.

I am always worried by people that are too certain. Sadly there is never enough time to know it all. Long may we all continue to learn from each other.

That's my 2p worth

stuart f
04-05-2004, 11:07
This is in no way meant to upset or point a finger at anybody, i just thought i would like to share it with you all.This is one of my old mans philosophies: Opinions are like ar*eholes everybody has one. 8-)

Again i reiterate this is not to flame or incite world war 3.

I think its very humbling, sobering and mabye puts things into perspective.
CHEERS
STUART F.

Tony
04-05-2004, 11:47
Sorry but everything I said was genuine, I was only putting across my opinion and I feel that there is alot of incorrect information on this site that I thought other people should be made aware of. I appologise if anyone has taken offence but I did think this was an OPEN forum.

Greyowl

Then thanks for your comments :biggthump the whole thing about the site is that no one professes to be an expert although some people do have a great deal of knowledge in different areas. We are all here as people interested in the great outdoors and anyone that contributes is welcome. The best thing for anyone to do that disagrees or has another opinion, is to share it and help everyone improve themselves.

You're obviously a knowledgeable person and I know I speak for everyone in saying that we appreciate any knowledge that is given freely to the rest of us, the whole thing is about sharing. If there are inaccuracies on the site then just point them out.

It's good to have you and I hope that along with the faults you have found you find some knowledge that is useful to you which makes the time spent here worth it.

Hoodoo
04-05-2004, 14:07
Maybe this will help us to get back on topic. :wink:

http://www4.gvsu.edu/triert/images/chicken1.jpg

Tony
04-05-2004, 14:23
:rolmao:

This has a few good bits

http://www.btinternet.com/~arb_exchange/trunkline/pests/aie_pd_chicken.html

Kath
04-05-2004, 14:54
Does anyone know if there are any indications for who might be allergic to it? or is it just the general allergics eg asthmatics, hayfever, peanut allergy sufferers ... redheads? :lol:

Any clues for the wary, Sargey?

the naughty boy
04-05-2004, 18:23
is THAT what it looks like??? bizarre! like someone threw an omlette at a tree.think i,ll wait till i see someone else eating a bit first then wait 24 hours :shock:

Wolfie
04-05-2005, 17:35
Just thought I'd let everyone know that chicken of the woods is out again.

I know where some grows and have been meaning to try it for about two years now. Normally I forget and by the time I remember somebody has usually bashed it to a pulp :(

This year I remembered and managed to get there first :) . Tried it last night and its not too bad. Has the texture of chicken but doesn't particularly taste of much. Even my wife tried some and eat all that I gave her!

As for allergic reactions I only read this thread today :eek: We both had eaten quite a bit but I'm glad to report that there were no ill effects apart from a little dizziness - that may have something to do with the wine though ;)

Wayland
04-05-2005, 18:48
[QUOTE=Wolfie Has the texture of chicken but doesn't particularly taste of much. [/QUOTE]

Perhaps Bernard Mathews could bring out "Chicken of the woods twizzlers". ;)

Hoodoo
04-05-2005, 22:18
I feasted on this last spring.

http://www4.gvsu.edu/triert/images6/sulfurshelf1b.jpg

CatFisH
05-05-2005, 02:54
good...dehydrated and used in soups...Wood Ear mushrooms
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/kingfish711/WoodEarR.jpg

better....Sulphur shelf...cousin to Chicken of the Woods
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/kingfish711/Laetiporussulphureus1.jpg

excellent...Chantrelles
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/kingfish711/Chanterelles3.jpg

absolutely the best...battered and fried serve on toast with mayo...Morels
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v722/kingfish711/handful.jpg

R-Bowskill
05-05-2005, 11:06
I find chicken in the woods useful as a stir fry ingredent when I'm doing one for a veggie, also just the fact of the quantity you can harvest makes it good as a bulker for foraged meals.

There is more to food than calories, otherwise we could all live on a diet of chips, porridge or bread, many fungi are useful sources of trace elements, plus they add texture, colour and flavours to meals.

This is the first time I've seen 'Jews ears' or 'Judas ears' listed as 'Wood Ears'. Is bushcraft going politically correct? or is this an old name for them in some places that I havn't encountered before? Are we going to see mention of 'heroism challenged in the wood fungi' or 'ethnic minority birds'?

CatFisH
05-05-2005, 11:39
my reference book (A Field Guide to Southern Mushrooms) on fungi refers to them as Wood Ears....this is the problem with using common names when refering to plants...the scientific classification is Auricularia auricula...the reference also states that it is common in many parts of the world...it must be the same as the Chinese Wood Ear availiable dried in many chinese markets

there isnt much flavor but it adds an interesting texture to casseroles and stir-frys

FeralSheryl
05-05-2005, 14:05
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Can anyone can give me positive ID on this one please:
[url="http://www.nemorosa.co.uk/2004/10/freaky-fungus.html"]Is this Chicken of the Woods? (http://www.nemorosa.co.uk/2004/10/freaky-fungus.html)

Wolfie
06-05-2005, 09:22
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Can anyone can give me positive ID on this one please:
[url="http://www.nemorosa.co.uk/2004/10/freaky-fungus.html"]Is this Chicken of the Woods? (http://www.nemorosa.co.uk/2004/10/freaky-fungus.html)

Looks like it to me.

R-Bowskill
06-05-2005, 09:55
CatFisH

Well I live and learn, another name for the same thing so if I hear anyone using that name I'll know what they're on about. Hope you didn't think I was being funny with you just my Yorkshire humour coming out.

P.S. great pics

FeralSheryl
06-05-2005, 18:07
Thanks Wolfie. It's great to have some confirmation on that one. The "well I think it is, but you see I wouldn't like to say..." thing has been driving me mad for months.

Curiously, it was growing on the side of a tree (well duh :rolleyes: ) , at the edge of the main road leading into Cheltenham and not in a Woodland area at all. It lasted for ages, gradually fading from the brilliant yellow to a rather dull shade of grey.

Wolfie
09-05-2005, 09:34
Thanks Wolfie. It's great to have some confirmation on that one. The "well I think it is, but you see I wouldn't like to say..." thing has been driving me mad for months.

Curiously, it was growing on the side of a tree (well duh :rolleyes: ) , at the edge of the main road leading into Cheltenham and not in a Woodland area at all. It lasted for ages, gradually fading from the brilliant yellow to a rather dull shade of grey.

No problem FeralSheryl. Its always hard to get confirmation on fungi as a lot of them are really hard to identify and a lot of people don't want to put their necks on the block. I must admit that at first I was a bit hesitant about posting a reply confirming it.

As for where you saw it growing, it seems that they like to grow in places that are in full view to the public. The specimen that I know of grows on a tree right next to a busy car park on a nature reserve and yet it hardly ever gets picked. (Probably will do now though :rolleyes: )

FeralSheryl
10-05-2005, 21:18
It's a cunning plan to take over civilisation. Nature bites back :D