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stovie
28-11-2006, 13:50
Based on patricks £5 canoe, last night the scouts put together a skeleton for a canoe made from leftover Tonkin Bamboo. The plan is to cover with canvas (yet another old tent) and seal with boat varnish.....

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a252/stovie/DSCF4783copy.jpg

More pics as and when we reach the next stage.....Ultimately if this "works", I will get some ash and hazel and they can make several....can you imagine what the "District" will have to say :rolleyes:

schwuk
28-11-2006, 14:03
can you imagine what the "District" will have to say :rolleyes:

Would love to be there when you show/tell them!

Fantastic project - something I might copy.

Are you covered for taking the Scouts out on the water though?

Buckshot
28-11-2006, 14:57
Great idea
I wonder if this can go towards a badge???

woodmunky
28-11-2006, 15:09
I'm feeling a tad inspired now :) right.... where's that bamboo...

spamel
28-11-2006, 15:58
As you all know, Ray Mears has close ties with the military, and he often gets roped into survival and special forces training. A friend attempted Special Forces selection this year, and on a briefing was shown a canoe that Ray had made from an old MFO box, the large boxes used to send kit through the freight system! He used umpteen rolls of black nasty to hold it together and I'd imagine to waterproof it a bit. He apparently got in it on the water and it worked a treat!

Love the bamboo frame, I can't wait to see the skin once it's put on and decorated. It just goes to show that you don't need to spend a lot of money on a canoe!!!

stovie
28-11-2006, 17:11
Great idea
I wonder if this can go towards a badge???

It goes towards the "DTD" badge...... :D Dodge the District badge :lmao:

seriously though, it could be squeezed into a number of badges....Depends on which one they haven't got..... :confused:

stovie
28-11-2006, 17:15
Love the bamboo frame, I can't wait to see the skin once it's put on and decorated. It just goes to show that you don't need to spend a lot of money on a canoe!!!

I think my whole point here, spamel, with the tipi (cost £0) bamboo bows (£20) canoe (£0), is exactly that....and I always thought that one of the central tenets of bushcraft was "self sufficiency"...I like the idea of creating new out of old. in this day of disposable society, it's cool to recycle :cool:

chrisanson
28-11-2006, 17:22
I think my whole point here, spamel, with the tipi (cost £0) bamboo bows (£20) canoe (£0), is exactly that....and I always thought that one of the central tenets of bushcraft was "self sufficiency"...I like the idea of creating new out of old. in this day of disposable society, it's cool to recycle :cool:


yopu have got 100% ov my vote on that m8
chris

spamel
28-11-2006, 17:56
You've got me there, I don't throw anything away, I'm like bloody magpie when it comes to shiney things and I hate to throw something away because I might need it one day!! And it has happened before, so I hoard :D

chrisanson
28-11-2006, 21:38
You've got me there, I don't throw anything away, I'm like bloody magpie when it comes to shiney things and I hate to throw something away because I might need it one day!! And it has happened before, so I hoard :D

you have seen my shed


http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=16691&highlight=lads+bow

chris

OzaawaaMigiziNini
30-11-2006, 16:00
I think my whole point here, spamel, with the tipi (cost £0) bamboo bows (£20) canoe (£0), is exactly that....and I always thought that one of the central tenets of bushcraft was "self sufficiency"...I like the idea of creating new out of old. in this day of disposable society, it's cool to recycle :cool:


Tipi? :confused: Gotta find that thread!

stovie
30-11-2006, 17:22
Tipi? :confused: Gotta find that thread!

Here you go http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=16545

and here's the scout weekend in the tipi http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=17053

Chopper
30-11-2006, 20:33
Based on patricks £5 canoe, last night the scouts put together a skeleton for a canoe made from leftover Tonkin Bamboo. The plan is to cover with canvas (yet another old tent) and seal with boat varnish.....

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a252/stovie/DSCF4783copy.jpg

More pics as and when we reach the next stage.....Ultimately if this "works", I will get some ash and hazel and they can make several....can you imagine what the "District" will have to say :rolleyes:

Stovie, I hope you don't mind me saying, but you really do need to put some kind of waterproof covering on the frame that you have made, cos without it it will sink. :)

OzaawaaMigiziNini
30-11-2006, 23:43
Here you go http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=16545

and here's the scout weekend in the tipi http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=17053
Amazing man :You_Rock_ Where'd the canvas come from? Had some spare tents?

stovie
01-12-2006, 16:42
Stovie, I hope you don't mind me saying, but you really do need to put some kind of waterproof covering on the frame that you have made, cos without it it will sink. :)

Ye of little faith :lmao:

stovie
01-12-2006, 16:43
Amazing man :You_Rock_ Where'd the canvas come from? Had some spare tents?

That's exactly where it came from. Old patrol tents and the like....

stovie
13-12-2006, 11:00
It's taken a couple of weeks but the troop have stitched the canvas onto the frame and applied a first layer of paint. The question is,who's going to be brave enough to sit in it first??? :rolleyes: I'm far too big, of course.... :D

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a252/stovie/DSCF4805copy.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a252/stovie/DSCF4807copy.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a252/stovie/DSCF4808copy.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a252/stovie/DSCF4811copy.jpg

Not perfect, by a long shot, but an interesting exercise all the same....Any volunteers out there... ;)

torjusg
13-12-2006, 11:04
I think it looks very good, but also very tippy. :D I would test it for you, but I live a little far away....

Edit: Maybe you should throw a fair bit of weight in the bottom before trying, or make outriggers.

Pignut
13-12-2006, 11:06
Nice one!

Guess what my explorers are going to be up to!

jojo
13-12-2006, 12:23
I like this little canoe. It just shows what can be achieved by young people with a bit of ingenuity, time and a few inexpensive materials. Well done Stovie and your scouts :) :You_Rock_

big_swede
13-12-2006, 17:11
Very Impressing! What kind of paint did they use?

jon r
13-12-2006, 17:30
nice stuff! Will have to let us know how it padles! :)

chrisanson
13-12-2006, 17:32
nice one m8, if it is a bit to "tipy" you put an outrigger on it.
chris

jon r
13-12-2006, 17:40
just found this interesting website:

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://web.mit.edu/people/robot/lepalepa/draw/2dassembly.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.mit.edu/people/robot/lepalepa/index.html&h=504&w=700&sz=23&hl=en&start=15&tbnid=L82Pigkz-sBQtM:&tbnh=101&tbnw=140&prev=/images%3Fq%3Doutrigger%26svnum %3D100%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa% 3DN

Bit about outriggers on there and its quite interesting :)

chrisanson
15-12-2006, 17:58
just found this interesting website:

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://web.mit.edu/people/robot/lepalepa/draw/2dassembly.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.mit.edu/people/robot/lepalepa/index.html&h=504&w=700&sz=23&hl=en&start=15&tbnid=L82Pigkz-sBQtM:&tbnh=101&tbnw=140&prev=/images%3Fq%3Doutrigger%26svnum %3D100%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa% 3DN

Bit about outriggers on there and its quite interesting :)


Nice!! Very interesting and (to my eye) elegant boat.
Have book marked that page. ;)
Chris

stovie
18-02-2007, 00:51
Just by way of a taster...Me afloat, in what was supposed to be a scout canoe and nothing more...The whole day will be listed as another thread...

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a252/stovie/P1010263copy.jpg

jon r
18-02-2007, 10:45
Truely fantastic! Feels good does'nt it! Looks like you made a good job on the outrigger! Veyy nice! :D

Nice one Stovie and Scouts! :You_Rock_

Jon :)

BorderReiver
18-02-2007, 12:09
Ooh,no personal floatation jacket,bad example to set the scouts. :eek: :p :p

Very well done though. :cool:

Dino
18-02-2007, 12:50
:confused: i saw the thread, and i though you had got a half a dozen scout and tied them together to make a canoe :confused: , but i was wrong,
it look like a good canoe project. i will try it out with my sea cadets.

stovie as a leader, you are showing a very bad example to your scouts, it look like you canoeing in your uniform :lmao: & without a lifejacket/bouyancy aid :( .

stovie
18-02-2007, 13:57
All the scouts wore the only floatation aid we had...it was too small for me, and I only took to the water when the scouts cajoled me :D

yes I was in uniform cos wee'd just had an investiture, and me floating was not planned...But my street cred is intact... ;)

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a252/stovie/DSCF4987copy.jpg

Just to prove my point...

webbie
10-06-2008, 09:44
sorry to bump up a old thread but what did you paint the canoe with and was it just the inside use painted or inside and outside?

webbie

jon r
10-06-2008, 20:25
Im not sure if stoivie painted the inside as well as the outside. I have made two canvas canoes myself and i have only ever painted the outside of the canvas.

Why do you ask? are you making a canoe too?

Links to my canoe tutorials:

http://www.jonsbushcraft.com/canoe2.htm
http://www.jonsbushcraft.com/building%20a%20canoe.htm

webbie
10-06-2008, 20:39
Im not sure if stoivie painted the inside as well as the outside. I have made two canvas canoes myself and i have only ever painted the outside of the canvas.

Why do you ask? are you making a canoe too?

Links to my canoe tutorials:

http://www.jonsbushcraft.com/canoe2.htm
http://www.jonsbushcraft.com/building%20a%20canoe.htm

yup i want a filler for a few weeks between my holiday and blair atholl scout camp :) so i thought of doing a canvas canoe ( ur second walk through ) and the bamboo bow.

then it will be a few weeks worth of programmes when the scouts and explorers are back on after summer camp.

webbie