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Doc
26-04-2004, 12:19
I like real (ie made from ground up coffee beans and hot water) coffee, especially in the morning. I know this is a bit of a luxury, but "any fool can be uncomfortable in the field" and I don't see any reason to deprive myself of it just because I'm out in the woods.

Interestingly Nessmuk devotes several pages to making coffee, so I'm not alone in this.

On the other hand - I don't want to carry a lot more kit, especially if heavy, bulky or easily broken, and I don't like bits of ground coffee floating in the cup.

Any tried and tested techniques?

Great Pebble
26-04-2004, 12:33
I have a gadget for making it (you do need pre-ground though) sort of like half a cup with a screw down filter element, all stainless, you pop it on top of a cup and pour water over it, allowing the coffee to filter down... Actually for something so simple it's hard to explain :-D

Gary
26-04-2004, 12:42
I like a good strong coffee too - I usually carry ground coffee such as Java Lava or the swedish stuff sold by Ikea.

Trick here is to fill your billy with cold water and add one spoon of coffee gounds per cup plus one for luck - bring this to the boil and remove from the flame.

Now (and I know this sounds daft) tap the side of your billy 3 times then leave it for a mo.

All the grounds should sink to the bottom of the can so you can dip in your cup without stirring up the dregs at the bottom and then enjoy your strong coffee.

This is an ideal time to use a flexi-cup or a Kuksa by the way - unless you have a ladle I wouldnt think a metal mug would be much use.

jamesdevine
26-04-2004, 13:18
I to like a cuppa Joe in the morning,evening, afternoon, mid-afternoon, mid-morning. well you get the picture.

Nessmuk talks about using a cloth filter which been pretty light to carry and idea I was going to try myself.

How do you carry your coffee if pre ground?

James

Keith_Beef
26-04-2004, 13:31
There are two ways I can think of for making good coffee:
1. Espresso
2. Greek


1. Espresso method.
Yes, I'm not pulling your leg, you can have real espresso coffee on camp. Get a Bialetti (or knock-off) screw-together espresso maker.

It looks like a "heaxagonal jug". You unscrew the top half from the bottom half to reveal a sort of funnel that sits on the rim of the bottom half. Take this out. Fill the bottom half with cold water. Put the funnel in place and fill it with ground coffee. Screw the top half down onto it, and set it to cook. The water boils, forces its way through the coffee, through a perforated plate, up a tunnel into the top half.

2. Greek method (or Turkish, or Russian...)
This is like a small, narrow, deep saucepan with a "waist" and pouring lip. I bought a small one (one cup) on Crete, and another (four cup) in Paris. Its called a "kaffeinik" in Russian.
You put one desertspoon of ground coffee per cup in the kaffeinik, and add water (it's better to take the chill off the water, or even get it hot, first). Leave enough room for it to well up. Bring it to the boil, and let it well up, but take it off the heat before it boils over. The coffee grounds float on the top at this stage. Hold it off the fire for a few seconds, and return it to let it well up two more times. Finally, let it stand for about twominutes, so the cofee grounds fall to the bottom, before pouring it into heat-resistant glasses (or kuksoja).


Keith.

Great Pebble
26-04-2004, 14:11
We've got one of those espresso makers....

And now I know what it is.... Which I didn't until I read that post.

stevec
26-04-2004, 16:04
how about the filter paper holder by ortleib? you need to take paper filters, not that these weigh much and you can burn them afterwards.
http://www.ortlieb.de/_prod.php?lang=en&produkt=filt er-coffee[/url]

EdS
26-04-2004, 16:05
Keith,

You beat me to it.

I got my pot in Crete as well - nice copper one with tin lining. Works a treat on a camp fire or more often than not the open fiore at home.

JeremyH
26-04-2004, 16:24
Ortlieb is the best by far. We have had one for the past nine years and use it regularly. It works, is simple and easy to keep clean. Filter papaers can be a bit of a pain but worth it in my book. Last time it was in use? - Yesterday at Port Mor when eight of us paddled down the coast,
had a beach sausage sizzle and drank fresh coffee - grat pick me up for the paddle home - following sea, four foot swell and high mental concentration! :lol:

Bug Boy
26-04-2004, 17:55
I usually carry my millbank bag, it filters coffee fine, then reverse it and rinse it, good as new.

sam
26-04-2004, 18:05
looking at the filters from ortlieb, they seem a bit big. Across here (holland) you can get packages of individual filters that you put coffee in and just pour your water through.

here's the link (kitchen utensils page 3 ithink?)

http://www.coghlans.com/home.html

NickBristol
27-04-2004, 11:36
Does anyone know if you can still buy coffee bags? These are identical to your usual tea bags, just with ground coffee inside obviously :roll:

I used to love using these out in the field as they make suprisingly good coffee. I used to get mine from Somerfield or Tesco but since I moved over to using those little coffee sticks liberated from various hotel rooms I stay in I've not been looking for them anymore.

Cheers
Nick

Doc
28-04-2004, 09:37
Thanks guys.

Just found Lyons coffee bags in Asda. Individually packed in sealed foil pouches, so very handy.

They do warn you that although it will turn the water brown and smelling of coffee instantly, you do need to give them three minutes to brew.


Tried them and very good - not quite as strong as I like, but still good.

I guess the other methods make better coffee but weigh a bit more.

Keith_Beef
28-04-2004, 10:57
Thanks guys.

Just found Lyons coffee bags in Asda. Individually packed in sealed foil pouches, so very handy.

They do warn you that although it will turn the water brown and smelling of coffee instantly, you do need to give them three minutes to brew.


Tried them and very good - not quite as strong as I like, but still good.

I guess the other methods make better coffee but weigh a bit more.

The kaffeinik that I mentioned is useful for heating water for dry foods like powdered soup and noodles. If you're going to use coffee bags, you still need a billie can or a kettle to heat the water, so I don't think weight is much of an issue here.

Also, although I didn't buy mine for camping, both are quite light; the Cretan is aluminium, the other is thin Chinese stainless.


Keith.

Roving Rich
29-04-2004, 11:22
Fantastic, I love coffee, but haven't found the ideal field solution yet.
I knew folding filter holders were available and have been looking out for one for years. So where can i get the ortleib filter?
I currently use an enamel coffee pot, just let the grounds settle, pour it gently and dont drink the bottom bit.
I do the same in my mug, let it settle and sup it through me teeth :-o
Cheers
Rich

EdS
29-04-2004, 14:32
Rich,

Get your self an ibrik/kaffeinik the only way to make coffee.

Kath
29-04-2004, 15:40
I love coffee but never bothered about whether it's 'proper' filtered coffee or not. I'll take it any way! :twisted: My favorite camping java is the Rocket Fuel brand ... a GREAT way to start the day! 8-)

NickBristol
29-04-2004, 15:52
mmm Rocket Fuel - i still have cravings for that stuff and I gave it up two years ago :shock: Had to stop as it was making me twitchy and stopped me sleeping at night if I had a cup after about 10am... :lol:

Roving Rich
29-04-2004, 16:09
EDs wrote

Rich,

Get your self an ibrik/kaffeinik the only way to make coffee.
where? i still can't picture it, any chance of a link?
Cheers
Rich
PS Just bought some Coffee bags to try this weekend :wink: (well i couldn't go without now could i)

jason01
29-04-2004, 17:26
If youre an espresso addict theres only one way to go, you need a mini mocha pot, these are widely available in outdoor shops. Mine gets used several times a day at home because it makes a perfect size double shot espresso for one and my other half dont like real coffee ;) nothing else comes close, instant, filter, caffatiere...(except greek/turkish which is good too)

Mind you, Im quite fussy about using freshly ground beans of my preferred type but I havent yet resorted to carrying a grinder!

Heres a pic next to an old Primus for scale. My only complaint, its made of aluminium, would like a stainless one!


http://www.jasonbhall.freeserve.co.uk/mocha.jpg

Adi007
29-04-2004, 17:28
Wow! Blast from the past - does that old Primus still work?

jason01
29-04-2004, 17:33
It certainly does, I have a few of em, love em but use em in the field rarely for fear of stinky leaking paraffin, they are as hot as any modern multifuel stove but no regulator on most of em.

You can still get spares for them believe it or not, that one has a new flame ring.

Jason

Adi007
29-04-2004, 17:38
Had several years ago (as a youngster) but eventually binned them all for a variety of issues (one had a leaky fuel tank, others just no spares at the time ... jets, flame ring and so on).

Great kit though and as you rightly say, powerful.

Feel sad now I threw them away if spares are available. :cry:

Kath
29-04-2004, 17:42
Do you guys plan on grinding your coffee beans in the field too? (Remember what happened when Billy Crystal tried it and made the cattle stampede! :nono:)

:lol:

jason01
29-04-2004, 17:59
That is a shame Adi :-( theyre becoming collectible now too, particularly the very early ones. Parts availability is patchy depending on the model but there are people with old stocks and there were many models by Primus and Optimus with common parts, they mustve sold millions of them, popular in third world countries and middle east too, I have one with arabic text on it.

Optimus still make the Hiker range which are much the same but in a square tin with a regulator and SVEA still make the classic "Climber", both descendants of the type in my pic.

Jason

Adi007
29-04-2004, 18:02
Thinking back I don't think any of mine had english on them bar the name ...

Wish I hadn't thrown them away now ... the stoves and the Aladdin pressurized lamps! :shock: (got to a point where there were no parts for them - pre internet - but the other day I came across some in a local store!).

jason01
29-04-2004, 18:14
I think Optimus came up with the pressurised lamps first, I have one of those too :) fabulous thing, noisy as hell, very bright and stinks when its going! The Swedish (I think Optimus or Primus) pretty much started it with the invention of the pressurised paraffin blowlamp circa 1882, the stoves came out soon after. All of these things are great fun to light and quite spectacular if you turn on the pressure before the manifold is hot enough!

People forget that MSR multifuel stoves and the likes are just modern versions of these old paraffin burners!

Jason

Keith_Beef
30-04-2004, 10:12
If youre an espresso addict theres only one way to go, you need a mini mocha pot, these are widely available in outdoor shops. Mine gets used several times a day at home because it makes a perfect size double shot espresso for one and my other half dont like real coffee ;) nothing else comes close, instant, filter, caffatiere...(except greek/turkish which is good too)

Mind you, Im quite fussy about using freshly ground beans of my preferred type but I havent yet resorted to carrying a grinder!

Heres a pic next to an old Primus for scale. My only complaint, its made of aluminium, would like a stainless one!


http://www.jasonbhall.freeserve.co.uk/mocha.jpg


I can't find any pics of a kaffeinik, maybe if you know the Greek name for it, you'll have better luck.

I'll try to find the time to take pictures of mine this weekend.

In the meantime, have a look at the Bialetti site:
http://www.bialetti.it/nonsolomoka_eng.html

This claims:
Aluminium is porous and absorbs the coffee taste giving it back more fragrant with every boiling: just like a pipe!

Hmm...

As for grinding your own in the field, you could try crushing the beans between flat rocks, like you would grind chestnuts to make flour...


Keith.

Martyn
30-04-2004, 13:08
The only problem with fresh coffee in the field, is having it pre-ground. I find pre-ground coffee goes stale extremely quickly - 24 hours opened and it's tainted and tastes disgusting. At home, once I've opened my bag of beans, I keep the beans in a tupperware container in the freezer and grind them straight from frozen. They'll keep like this for months and every cup tastes like you're using freshly opened bag of beans. I suppose if your trip is only for a day or two, then you could get away with pre-grinding, but any longer and the coffee would go off for sure. I think for longer trips, the individually sealed coffee bags would be better.

BTW, Taylors Kenyan beans are delicious. ;)

stevec
30-04-2004, 13:10
for those of you who want spares for old primus, tilly,etc stuff try this site.
http://www.base-camp.co.uk

jason01
30-04-2004, 18:51
The only problem with fresh coffee in the field, is having it pre-ground. I find pre-ground coffee goes stale extremely quickly - 24 hours opened and it's tainted and tastes disgusting. At home, once I've opened my bag of beans, I keep the beans in a tupperware container in the freezer and grind them straight from frozen. They'll keep like this for months and every cup tastes like you're using freshly opened bag of beans. I suppose if your trip is only for a day or two, then you could get away with pre-grinding, but any longer and the coffee would go off for sure. I think for longer trips, the individually sealed coffee bags would be better.

BTW, Taylors Kenyan beans are delicious. ;)

Completely agree re freshly ground coffee Martin, and "Kenya AA" rocks:)

Jason

jason01
30-04-2004, 19:10
Anybody ever managed to sample Kopi Luwak? Also known as cat pooh coffee?

Allegedley this rare and expensive coffee from Indonesia attains an exceptional and uniquely smooth flavour from being eaten partially digested and then errrm poohed out by the paradoxurus, a tree-dwelling animal that is part of the sibet family. Long regarded by the natives as pests, they climb among the coffee trees eating only the ripest, reddest coffee cherries. The plantation workers collect the pooh and roast the bean which cost around $300 per pound!

For real!! Allegedley! ;-)

Jason

Stew
30-04-2004, 19:36
Anybody ever managed to sample Kopi Luwak? Also known as cat pooh coffee?

Allegedley this rare and expensive coffee from Indonesia attains an exceptional and uniquely smooth flavour from being eaten partially digested and then errrm poohed out by the paradoxurus, a tree-dwelling animal that is part of the sibet family. Long regarded by the natives as pests, they climb among the coffee trees eating only the ripest, reddest coffee cherries. The plantation workers collect the pooh and roast the bean which cost around $300 per pound!

For real!! Allegedley! ;-)

Jason

Firebox sell something similar (I've not tried either)

Weasel Coffee (http://www.firebox.com/index.html?dir=firebox&action= product&pid=616)

jason01
30-04-2004, 20:06
Roflmao Ive just read the description for Weasel coffee, it sounds even more implausable than Kopi Luak, they couldnt make that up could they?!!!! :lol:

And check out the customer reviews!!! :lol:

ChrisKavanaugh
10-05-2004, 16:02
I carry a supply of whole beans. For crushing I use my Wetterling and toss them into my billy. Once boiled I take it off and add another cup of cold water. This settles the grounds.

mamos
06-12-2004, 18:25
Hi Guys

I have been using one of these for a couple of years now and they are fantastic.
http://www.lakelandlimited.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/GBP/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=1A552y04jByQWWyMdjF1 3YX4abtsqbxxuw0=?ProductID=IVD Cy5OSXzUAAADnqr1uwHlq

Mamos

Schwert
06-12-2004, 23:10
A Turkish Ibrik is a small pot with handle, usually copper or brass.

http://www.natashascafe.com/images/photos/ibrik.jpg

Finely ground coffee is heated with water to boil up 3 times then decanted for a grand cup....usually with a fair amount of sediment.

Grabbed the image from:

http://www.natashascafe.com/html/ibrik.html

I usually drink tea in the field but I have used a Bodum nylon mesh tea filter device that sits in my mug. Grounds in the mug, add boiling water and cover to steep. I usually carry coffee that I have ground at home.

http://store1.yimg.com/I/stashtea_1823_325973571

This place also lists a stainless mesh version:

http://shopstashtea.com/accessories-infusers.html

For large parties I usually just make Cowboy coffee...boil it up in a can and let settle with a splash of cold water.

I have made my own coffee bags with some tea bag envelopes but I find this too much trouble.

Viking
06-12-2004, 23:20
I like a good strong coffee too - I usually carry ground coffee such as Java Lava or the swedish stuff sold by Ikea.

Trick here is to fill your billy with cold water and add one spoon of coffee gounds per cup plus one for luck - bring this to the boil and remove from the flame.

Now (and I know this sounds daft) tap the side of your billy 3 times then leave it for a mo.

All the grounds should sink to the bottom of the can so you can dip in your cup without stirring up the dregs at the bottom and then enjoy your strong coffee.

This is an ideal time to use a flexi-cup or a Kuksa by the way - unless you have a ladle I wouldnt think a metal mug would be much use.

I have heard of a similar way to make coffe:
You should make it come to a boil and then take it off the fire and let it cool off and let it cool of a bit, this you should do 3 times and the last time you should add some a handfull of snow or some water. The snow/water are supposed to make the dreg fall to the bottom.

And if you are in lappland you might even get some salt in your coffe.

Not that I have tried any of it...

DMBackpacker
07-12-2004, 04:26
I take this along on solo trips:

http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?storeId=8000&catalogId=40000008000&productId=203977&parent_category_rn=4500495&vcat=REI_SEARCH

Burnt Ash
02-01-2005, 18:07
I like real (ie made from ground up coffee beans and hot water) coffee, especially in the morning. I know this is a bit of a luxury, but "any fool can be uncomfortable in the field" and I don't see any reason to deprive myself of it just because I'm out in the woods.

Interestingly Nessmuk devotes several pages to making coffee, so I'm not alone in this.

On the other hand - I don't want to carry a lot more kit, especially if heavy, bulky or easily broken, and I don't like bits of ground coffee floating in the cup.

Any tried and tested techniques?

Life is often about compromises. Unless you want to carry paraphernalia, you might consider really high quality instant coffee instead (e.g., Dow Egberts, Carte Noire). Make sure it's fresh and kept in watertight/airtight container. Sure, it won't be as good as the very best fresh-ground coffee made under ideal conditions, but I'd far rather drink the aforementioned brands of instant than a great many varieties of so-called 'real' coffee that I've tried. Crappy coffee is crappy coffee, whether real or instant (frankly, you can keep your roasted dandelion roots and acorns and boiled donkey droppings, etc.).

Burnt Ash

Bob Hurley
02-01-2005, 19:29
Do you guys plan on grinding your coffee beans in the field too? (Remember what happened when Billy Crystal tried it and made the cattle stampede! :nono:)

:lol:
I usually roast and grind (crush, really) in the field, but then I don't camp near cattle. :wink:

A skillet works far better than a pot for roasting, and it takes a little while. I can have a campfire where I go, so that isn't a problem. Just roast until most beans are brown, tie up loosely in a piece of heavy muslin, crush with the back of a tomahawk and boil in the bag - takes a bit longer than ground.

A buddy just roasts and boils the whole beans. The coffee is weak looking and a bit milky, but it has a heck of a caffeine kick. You have to boil for quite a while with this method. It has a very different taste from the coffee you'd make at home, but it's good.

suburban bushwacker
19-01-2008, 21:08
Now (and I know this sounds daft) tap the side of your billy 3 times then leave it for a mo.


Tapping defiantly works, and works even better if you 'sprinkle' a couple of spoons of cold water onto the surface of the coffee. As the cold water sinks to the bottom it takes the grinds with it. straining through your teeth represents the last line of defense!

SBW

BIG_emu
19-01-2008, 23:05
I do quite alot of other outdoors stuuf besides bushcraft and am a big fan of the jetboil (as most campsite don't like open fires) and you can get that with a coffee press http://www.jetboil.com/Products/Accessories/Coffee-Press

but tbh for the time and effort I'd much rather use instant coffee.

Ben

British Red
19-01-2008, 23:18
Burn the heretic!

andy_e
20-01-2008, 00:14
Lyons coffee bags, no mess, no straining, no cold water tricks, just 5 minutes of bleary-eyed anticipation in the morning. Gets my vote, coffee press? Hah! Next you'll be telling me it runs on that new-fangled electricity. :D

BTW Kopi Luwak - is mighty fine coffee, I've treated myself to a packet every xmas for the last 3 - 4 years from http://www.edible.com

British Red
20-01-2008, 00:26
Swissgold cofffee filter - fantastic things!

No paper, no press no weight.

For car camping it has to be a proper enamel coffee pot, green beans to roast, a skillet to roast them in, a hand grinder etc.

For a wander a swiss gold works. I ahve an areopress, a metal cafitierre and all sorts - but the swiss gold wors and weighs nowt, Better and cheaper than Lyons bags!

Red

andy_e
20-01-2008, 00:29
Sounds interesting Red, where could I find one?

British Red
20-01-2008, 01:04
I hot mine for a fiver in Whitards sale - I've seen them online but they are about a tenner there - cracking bit of kit - simple and no consumables!

Red

BIG_emu
20-01-2008, 01:08
Burn the heretic!

I think I should keep well away from food & drink discussions on here. so far I've have the 'proper' oatcake discussion and now I'm being burned for drinking instant coffee. :p

oh well

Ben

andy_e
20-01-2008, 01:34
Instant is fine as long as it's a gourmet brand ;)

Am partial to Douwe Egberts myself :D

andy_e
20-01-2008, 01:41
I hot mine for a fiver in Whitards sale - I've seen them online but they are about a tenner there - cracking bit of kit - simple and no consumables!

Red

Cheers Red, will have a look next time I'm in there. Am a fan of their instant fruit teas, just finished a tub of Turkish Apple tea..

British Red
20-01-2008, 01:47
I think I should keep well away from food & drink discussions on here. so far I've have the 'proper' oatcake discussion and now I'm being burned for drinking instant coffee. :p

oh well

Ben
Ben,

Camp coffee is a serious business - not to be undertaken lightly

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16039

The last time I roasted coffee in camp I was approached by a large animal. Fortunately it was friendly and went by the name "Spikey da Pikey" :)

Red

weaver
20-01-2008, 03:51
Life is often about compromises. Unless you want to carry paraphernalia, you might consider really high quality instant coffee instead (e.g., Dow Egberts, Carte Noire). Make sure it's fresh and kept in watertight/airtight container. Sure, it won't be as good as the very best fresh-ground coffee made under ideal conditions, but I'd far rather drink the aforementioned brands of instant than a great many varieties of so-called 'real' coffee that I've tried. Crappy coffee is crappy coffee, whether real or instant (frankly, you can keep your roasted dandelion roots and acorns and boiled donkey droppings, etc.).

Burnt Ash

AHH, but the good life is about making no compromises. Go for the best and settle for nothing less.

Of course, I'm still looking for the good life. :(

SimonM
20-01-2008, 15:11
Lyons coffee bags, no mess, no straining, no cold water tricks, just 5 minutes of bleary-eyed anticipation in the morning.

Same here - Lyons or Sainsbury's Finest coffee bags for me.

Individually foil wrapped - what could be simpler? :rolleyes:

Simon

Elessar
20-01-2008, 16:32
I'm confussed as to why you couldn't take a small box of Kenco, that doesn't go stale 24hrs after you open it........ problem solved.....or am i missing the point.

J

SimonM
20-01-2008, 17:05
I'm confussed as to why you couldn't take a small box of Kenco, that doesn't go stale 24hrs after you open it........ problem solved.....or am i missing the point.

J

For me the bags are a convenience thing. I leave a few in my hobo stove all the time, so I know that I can at least have a decent brew whilst I'm out & about.

I also work in a residential special school, and like to introduce the pupils to some of the finer things in life during my regular out doorsy friday afternoon activity session - after all who else will, if not me?

fishfish
20-01-2008, 22:07
a jar of lidles coffie does me well!

British Red
20-01-2008, 22:16
Note to self, take own coffee when meeting the philistine.

You do the bacon, I'll do the coffee fishfish ;)

Red

Matt Weir
20-01-2008, 22:33
I know that coffee is the theme but I heard mention of '''proper''' oatcakes whilst camping so have to comment that the best camp breakie has been Bodge's bacon,cheese and mushroom Staffordshire oatcake wraps followed by Andy e's Lyons coffee bag coffee.

Tasty shizzbit indeed :D

Dr Onion
20-01-2008, 22:38
To each their own but to me - Life's too short - I just boil some water and whack in some instant! Job done!

Dr O

British Red
20-01-2008, 23:06
All those that love instant should stir it with their wooden sppon they bought from the shop and boil the water on a fire they made with bag of logs from the garage!

Wheres the rush?

Red

Dr Onion
20-01-2008, 23:30
Hmmmm....I drink instant at home, at work and at friends and yet you are advocating that I use fresh ground when I am out and about?! Did I miss the memo that said "instant coffee is anti-bushcraft"? ;)

I really don't get the problem here - you like it your way and I like it my way. I just think (and again it is just my opinion here and I am not imposing it on you or anyone else) that there are other things I like doing rather than sitting and grinding coffee beans in a field - and again, I don't knock those that do this. To each their own I always say!

Wouldn't the world be a horrible place if we all just liked one thing one way?

Now, join hands and sing...."Kumbayah my lord, Kumbayah..."

;) :D

Dr O

British Red
20-01-2008, 23:37
(puts hand on Onion's forehead)

"Out foul Nescafe - go back to the floor of the coffee house whose sweepings you stemmed from.

Begone oh foul and flavourless brew - return to the 1970s cafe whence you came

Know now that you face the rightous sword of green beans roasted by hand and allowed two days to de-gas.

Tremble in the face of water cooled from the point of boil before introduction to the beans.

Hide not behind the paper that removes the oil of flavour upon filtration

Leave this innocent and return to the Lord of foul brown brews - I name him Mellow Birds"





aaaaaand relax :D

DoctorSpoon
21-01-2008, 11:48
British Red :You_Rock_

and from one doctor to another :yuck: coffee flavoured drink

... who would have thought such a simple thing would raise such strong feelings :lmao:

andy_e
21-01-2008, 12:04
Coffee is important though divisive - only Hot Chocolate is the true unifier of men (and women), topped with marshmallows and whipped cream only in the Holy Cocoa is salvation truly found :D

SimonM
21-01-2008, 12:08
Coffee is important though divisive - only Hot Chocolate is the true unifier of men (and women), topped with marshmallows and whipped cream only in the Holy Cocoa is salvation truly found :D

Thats a whole different arguement tho.

Now whipped cream - real or from a can (lights touch paper and steps well back)!

Simon

andy_e
21-01-2008, 12:25
Thats a whole different arguement tho.

Now whipped cream - real or from a can (lights touch paper and steps well back)!

Simon

LOL! HC is an inclusive faith - room for all denominations - the warm chocolatiness transcends all boundaries :D

Edit: actually, there is nothing I like better than to be in the middle of nowhere on a still and starry night, with the glow of a small campfire warming my camp and a mug of hot chocolate between my hands - bliss.

John Fenna
21-01-2008, 12:40
Rat Pack chocolate powder....Mmmmmmmm!

fishfish
21-01-2008, 14:07
Note to self, take own coffee when meeting the philistine.

You do the bacon, I'll do the coffee fishfish ;)

Red

sounds like a good idea! ille bring a ferret too see if we cant get a conie too!

British Red
21-01-2008, 17:52
Mmmmm bunny :)

Deal!

suburban bushwacker
13-02-2008, 20:56
i was thinking about this thread earlier today, there is a device that I've seen online the aerobie (yes the same people who make the Frisbee alternatives) Aeropress. Not used one yet. http://aerobie.com/Products/aeropress.htm

Oh and for the record
'there is no such thing as instant coffee'

SBW

British Red
13-02-2008, 21:03
Got one :rolleyes: . They are okay but too much of a faff for field use tbh.

The latests device I have found which is as near perfect as possible is the Swissgold filter. No papers, lightwieght, perfect filtration (no grounds left), allows water to be added at the right temperature. Very, very good. Normally about £10 but recently I found them on clearance at half price and stocked up

Well worth the money for coffee heads!

Red

Newbie woodworm
27-02-2008, 19:27
http://www.coffeepotshop.co.uk/index.html?lang=en-uk&target=p37.html abit more expensive than when I bought mine but works well.

spamel
27-02-2008, 19:38
I use a stainless mug that fits on the bottom of a 1 litre Nalgene. The press bit from an old knackered press fits in perfectly, and I like a brew from it on a trip out. Wierd because I drink tea at home! Ratbag seems to be a bit partial to it too! He says I make mine Navy, due to adding a bit of salt. I haven't roasted or ground my own yet, but some stuff I had a while back was great and I once made a coffee up that tasted like chocolate, I kid you not. It was sweet and nutty, absolutely the best coffee I ever had!

DoctorSpoon
27-02-2008, 19:54
http://www.coffeepotshop.co.uk/index.html?lang=en-uk&target=p37.html abit more expensive than when I bought mine but works well.
That's very cool! It is rather expensive though - I use a plastic cafetiere mug (http://www.smartcafe.co.uk/products/hot_cafetiere_mugs.asp) which does the job for a quarter of the price!

British Red
27-02-2008, 20:01
Trade you a better device for a nice spoon :)

Schwert
27-02-2008, 20:37
That's very cool! It is rather expensive though - I use a plastic cafetiere mug (http://www.smartcafe.co.uk/products/hot_cafetiere_mugs.asp) which does the job for a quarter of the price!

I like that Cafeitere mug too. It makes a great cup and is simple too. I ended up sending some knives over to Britian to a fellow on BB to get a pair of these. About 3 weeks later I found them in a local grocery.:D

I like the gold fiter too.

Decaf coffee and Instant are crimes against nature...there should be some sort of international law against such vile practices.

DoctorSpoon
28-02-2008, 14:03
Trade you a better device for a nice spoon :)

:D sounds like an interesting offer. I'm off to Dover for a few days :yuck: but will be in touch when I get home.

oetzi
28-02-2008, 14:40
Lets face it, a good coffee doesnt come easy!
First one need a good supplier of green beans,
then a quantity of them has to be carefully roasted at home,
put to rest, to de-gas, for 24h.
Then comes preparation, for which there are several ways to choose from.
Afterwards, it must be drunk from a ceramic mug. Not paper, not plastic, not any kind of metal.
All of these rules I can abide to when having a brew outdoors, with the exempt of the mug“s material, but thats a small compromise.
These days, on an overnight trip, I carry preground coffee and sugar in nalgene bootles, also some cream in small pre-packed containers as available in the supermarket.
Then this:
http://intranet.tatonka.com/infosys/infocgi/artinfoe.dll?4123&0
and some paper filter to fit it and it works really well!!!

spamel
28-02-2008, 15:19
I find coffee from a wooden kuksa tastes just fine!

British Red
28-02-2008, 15:37
I'll look forward to it Dr Spoon - the haggling scene from "Life of Brian" :D

robin wood
28-02-2008, 16:11
Dr Spoon doesn't do Life of Brian Red...says its a man thing but she will haggle. :D

littlebiglane
28-02-2008, 17:18
I have asked a friend about this in the past. He was an absolute coffee fiend. He has now given it up and drinks more booze instead (citing its less disruptive to his life).

I remember his tip when I asked him about taking coffee on a long hike.....

"I have in the past made lots of shots of espresso (or espresso corto) with a robust bean, place the shots in a 500ml PET bottle - half fill it. That will be about 10shots (250ml). I make sure I then pop it straight into the freezer (the coffee can oxidize very quickly and degrade once made). Once frozen I can either wrap it and pack it. Its good for a couple of days. Or freeze it, partially thaw it, pour off excess water (to concentrate it even more) then 3/4 fill film containers and freeze the crude oil thick coffee concentrate. I then have a rocket-fuel when I need it - in easy use containers. Just add hot water!

Please note: this coffee can wake the dead."

:)

I have not actually tried it. But he was a bit of pro....so I hope he was not full of :censored:

EdS
28-02-2008, 17:44
what a lot of fuse over nothing. If really wherre decerning you would be drinking tea, loose leaf (an Assam or Ceylon maybe) made in a tea pot. With a nice piece of home made cake or flapjack to boot.:D

Buckley8219
28-02-2008, 17:54
Just got hold of a couple of the swiss gold filters, really very good for what they are!

Cheers Red.

littlebiglane
28-02-2008, 19:00
what a lot of fuse over nothing. If really wherre decerning you would be drinking tea, loose leaf (an Assam or Ceylon maybe) made in a tea pot. With a nice piece of home made cake or flapjack to boot.:D

hear! hear!!

More tea vicar? Yes, I'll have another slice of that Angel cake too. It was :censored: delicious!

British Red
28-02-2008, 19:04
Make sure you use the liner thingy though - I forgot once - very messy :o

Red

andy_e
28-02-2008, 19:04
Tea? Pteugh! Fresh coffee and a wedge of carrot cake ... :D

British Red
28-02-2008, 19:05
Dr Spoon doesn't do Life of Brian Red...says its a man thing but she will haggle. :D
Ere...this bird won't haggle :D

Look "10 sheckels for that - you must be mad"

I was looking forward to doing the voice :(

andy_e
28-02-2008, 19:10
Ere...this bird won't haggle :D

Look "10 sheckels for that - you must be mad"

I was looking forward to doing the voice :(

Make sure you get your complementary gourd Red.

British Red
28-02-2008, 19:19
I was hoping for a better beard - mines turning grey :(

robin wood
28-02-2008, 20:20
Are there any women here today?

British Red
28-02-2008, 20:23
<gruffly> NO No NO

and I want no stones thrown....even.....and I want to make this absolutely clear....even if someone says ...Jehova

SOAR
28-02-2008, 20:30
Spare a sheckel for an ex leper

andy_e
29-02-2008, 00:06
I think it should be clear by now that BR is just a very naughty boy.

DoctorSpoon
02-03-2008, 16:56
:confused: scratches head, wanders back to British Blades ...