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leon-b
18-11-2006, 22:34
hi guys british red gave me the idea so i thought i would put a few things up

2 x british army mess tins brand new you can have both or just the one - reserved

1 x brand new scrim net - gone

8 x cartrige match cases gone

first to pm me gets what ever they want

i would like some sinew, a small piece of antler etc but dont feel that you have to give anything if you are hard up

leon

British Red
18-11-2006, 22:37
What type of antler are you after Leon (size , type, purpose etc.).

I have a few bits that might be suitable

Can't help on the sinew front right now

Red

leon-b
18-11-2006, 22:38
well any size really what ever you can spare
leon

P@ul
18-11-2006, 22:40
Nice gesture Leon, well done.

P@ul

Edited spelling mistake, wish I could spell :rolleyes:

bent-stick
18-11-2006, 22:43
PM'd re sinew

British Red
18-11-2006, 22:45
I'll look some out Leon - what do you want it for (then I can find the right size bits) (or is it like me for general messing with)?

Red

leon-b
18-11-2006, 22:46
well i would like to make some firesteel handles so the tip of the antler would be good
what do ya want for it ?
leon

British Red
18-11-2006, 23:00
Hmmm tips I may only have one or two - I have some lovely wood though (real knife handle quality). Would you like some brass tube too for making lanyard tubes in the handle?

PM me your address and I get some stuff off to you

I don't want anything mate - I have a lovely match case and spatula from you - pay it forward to someone else - that kind of the point. The wood I will send you came free to me from fantastic members here (Bushwacker Bob, Stuart Mitchell etc. - take a bow). They sent me more than I can ever use, so I send some on to you. Thats how it works

Red

leon-b
18-11-2006, 23:05
red you have pm
leon
guys the mess tins and match cases are still left
leon

weaver
19-11-2006, 03:48
Is deer antler hard to come by there? I can get a plenty if you need it. It's the plain brown stuff not the beautiful red like I have seen on here.

leon-b
19-11-2006, 08:26
weaver you have pm
the mess tins and cartridge match cases are all left guys pm me or post on here if you want them remember these are free of charge and postage is also free
leon

g4ghb
19-11-2006, 12:08
well done that lad!:You_Rock_


and who say the young are selfish!!!! (and you have rep btw ;) )

I don't want / need anything,( just thought i'd add my praise!) - it's there for somone who needs it after all!

leon-b
19-11-2006, 12:28
6 x match cases and 2 x mess tins left
so far ive got

fred gordan - match case
beachlover - match case
bent stick - scrim

and thats it, tell me if i have missed you out
leon

leon-b
19-11-2006, 12:37
i have some boots on ebay at the moment they have 5 hrs left and no bidders, if they dont sell would any body on here be interested for a son or daughter
they are size 5
tracpac 100g thinsulate insulation
leon

leon-b
19-11-2006, 13:09
who ever has pm'd me please could you send your address so i can get them all posted on monday
leon

weaver
19-11-2006, 13:56
All my antler is now spoken for. Thanks guys!

British Red
19-11-2006, 16:02
Leon,

weaver is going to put your antler in with a parcel he is sending me, so I'll add his to mine and send it all to you in one go if thats okay with you?

Thanks weaver - you are a gentleman sir!

Red

weaver
19-11-2006, 16:20
You may want to send your parcel along. It seems to my old rememberer that your package to here took a few weeks.

leon-b
19-11-2006, 17:33
sounds good i am getting a fair bit of antler coming to me some will be for a firesteel handle and if i get a big enough bit i am going to rehandle an old full tang knife we have
bent stick please send me your address so that i can get it off to you tommorow
leon

leon-b
19-11-2006, 17:36
sorry guys but the boots are sold
leon

leon-b
19-11-2006, 19:07
bent stick - scrim
fred gordon - match case
beach lover - match case
all are packed and ready to be posted tommorow morning
i still have 5 match cases and 2 mess tins left if anybody wants them
leon

Too Much Kit To Carry
19-11-2006, 19:46
Hi Leon,

Would you please make some for me to give as Christams presents to my family for me??

I'd like to take 3 off your hands if that is ok??

I don't have anyting to swap except a 57mm army belt that I don't use - could post picturese if you're interested?

Phil.

leon-b
19-11-2006, 19:49
it is now deleted

leon-b
19-11-2006, 19:50
damn that was suppose to be a pm, please could the mods delete it for me
leon

British Red
19-11-2006, 19:52
Leon,

Edit your post mate and remove your address! Never publish your address in a post - only via PM :twak: :nono: :nono:

Red

British Red
19-11-2006, 19:53
Lol

Its gone mate

Red

leon-b
19-11-2006, 19:55
i know it was an accident red
it wont let me delete it
leon

ScottC
19-11-2006, 19:59
Leon I would physically remove the address, it is still visible!

leon-b
19-11-2006, 20:02
it is now deleted, sorry about that guys
leon

leon-b
19-11-2006, 20:55
right i now have left
2 match cases and 2 mess tins who wants them
leon

Too Much Kit To Carry
19-11-2006, 21:21
Leon,

Nikki has packaged your belt, attached your address label and drawn a smiley on the back :D

She has promised me to get this in the post tomorrow some time. Hopefully be with you later in thw week - don't expect 1st Class postage 'cos she'll only take it out of her house keeping allowance :rolleyes:

Looking forward to getting your match cases.

Thanks mate,

Phil.

leon-b
19-11-2006, 21:22
look forward to recieving your belt please could you pm me a photo of it
leon

Too Much Kit To Carry
19-11-2006, 21:32
Will post to this thread as soon as my camera has a little charge in it - been out in the woods with my son palying today.

gimme a few mins to get the battery going and I will post.

Phil.

Too Much Kit To Carry
19-11-2006, 21:34
Will post to this thread as soon as my camera has a little charge in it - been out in the woods with my son palying today.

gimme a few mins to get the battery going and I will post.

Phil.

D'oh - it's already packaged up ready to post :lmao:

Phil.

leon-b
19-11-2006, 21:35
oh well dont worry about it mate
leon

Too Much Kit To Carry
19-11-2006, 21:37
I'd love to send a picture - but Mrs. Too Much Kit To Be Compalined About :D would have to re-wrap it and I'd get an ear-full of grief.

I'll make sure she gets it off to you soonest though so you can see if it is of any use to you.

Phil.

leon-b
19-11-2006, 21:38
if its not any use i will put it up on here and see who wants it
im sure i will find a use for it though
leon

Too Much Kit To Carry
19-11-2006, 21:49
Cool.

I'm sure you find a use for it mate.

Phil.

leon-b
19-11-2006, 21:51
come on guys take your pick 2 mess tins and 2 match cases free to a good home
leon

Bisamratte
19-11-2006, 23:20
Leon you have a pm :D

But unfortunately I cant rep you at the moment :(

Ill try again tomorrow :rolleyes: :cool: :D :You_Rock_

leon-b
20-11-2006, 07:28
bisamratte, yours is packed and ready to be posted this morning, the mess tins may be gone im just waiting for a pm
leon

leon-b
20-11-2006, 17:04
add fishing gear to my wanted list aswell, i am going to have a look and hopefully stick a few more things on here later
leon

leon-b
20-11-2006, 17:09
now only 1 match case left, the mess tins are probebly gone but im waiting for rapid boy to pm me, if you pm me i will get it off to you tommorow
leon

Bisamratte
20-11-2006, 18:02
bisamratte, yours is packed and ready to be posted this morning, the mess tins may be gone im just waiting for a pm
leon


Cheers Leon :You_Rock_

Andy

leon-b
20-11-2006, 18:11
everybodys went out today i hope you recieve them soon, tell me what you think of them when they arrive, when i get some more cartridges i will make some more and put them on here again, who would be interested
leon

Too Much Kit To Carry
20-11-2006, 20:30
Leon your belt is in the post - Nikki posted it this afternoon prolly via Super Economy Class. :eek:

Expect before Christmas :lmao:

Phil.

leon-b
20-11-2006, 20:31
great i cant wait untill it arrives
leon

Too Much Kit To Carry
20-11-2006, 20:33
Cool - it is very sturdy, hope you can get your new SFA to fit on it ;)

Phil.

leon-b
20-11-2006, 20:33
sorry but im lost how would i get my sfa on it ?
leon

Too Much Kit To Carry
20-11-2006, 20:37
the "sheath" for the SFA can also attach to a belt by passing the leather strap attached to the sheath with female press-stud can be passed through the back of a belt and then be refastened to attach it to the belt.

Phil.

leon-b
20-11-2006, 20:39
oh i get it, thanks for explaining
1 cartridge left who wants it
leon

leon-b
20-11-2006, 21:13
if rapidboy takes the mess tins that will be the lot gone as dave is having a match case in return for some fishing gear
leon

leon-b
20-11-2006, 21:14
keep watching this thread as in about 2 weeks i will have some more match cases made up
leon

leon-b
21-11-2006, 07:38
i will give rapid boy 2 days to pm me and if he doesnt i will put them both back on here
leon

falcon
21-11-2006, 10:53
Leon....I think Rapidboy might be working away from home during the week and may not be able to get on line....perhaps you could check him out at the weekend..? ;)

leon-b
21-11-2006, 15:38
ok i will wait untill the weekend
bent stick your stuff arrived today i like the knife well done, what can i do with the sinew, i was thinking about making string would this work
singteck your pouch arrived today well done mate great craftmanship
leon

bent-stick
21-11-2006, 16:25
Glad you like the burnishing knife. You'll find it useful for finishing any wood carvings.

You need to prep the sinew by
a) wet it - I soak it in lukewarm water (don't cook it) for a couple of hours

b) bash it. I have a nice smooth river stone and I bash it with that on a piece of wood. When you think you have bashed it enough, bash it some more.

c) while you are bashing it it will go from yellow and clear to white and fibrous

d) now comes the tedious bit. When it is dried you can pull off fibres and gradually split them down until they are the thickness you want. I get them thin as fine cotton for bow backing and thin as linen thread for tieing feathers on
arrows and reinforcing nocks.

You'll end up with a load of fibres with no hard bits in them. Its amazin how much you end up with from a single sinew.

To use the sinew for whipping I chew the fibres, they become self adhesive so you can whip on arrow points etc and they stay put. It takes a day or so for the sinew to fully dry and it keeps shrinking for weeks. To make absolutely sure they are not going anywhere I wipe them with a trace of hide glue.

Making string can be done but it is a bit of a mission with leg sinew. The longest fibers you'll get out of the leg sinew is about 8". You can produce a bow string from it (theres a picture in the Trad Bowyers Bible I think) but you have to do a lot of joining in. I managed to get a bit about 16" long with a dozen fine fibres in it it was stunningly strong. If you keep licking your fingers that puts enough moisture in it to keep it workable. I used it for square whipping some bamboo just to see how tough it was. The cat ate it...lesson learned keep sinew away from carnivores. Both cats and dogs think it is great stuff for chewing.

If you don't fancy doing it with spit you can dip it in warm water...

leon-b
21-11-2006, 16:42
thanks mate, is there anything else i could do with it if not i will make the string
leon

bent-stick
21-11-2006, 16:47
Have a go with the string. I'll be interested to see it.

You can also use it for stitching but I haven't tried that.

leon-b
21-11-2006, 16:51
how thick shall i make the string, i dont want it really thick but i spose i would have to make it even bigger so that when it shrinks it is the right size
leon

leon-b
21-11-2006, 17:47
i have just put the sinew in warm water and in about 2 hours it should be ready for making into string
leon

leon-b
21-11-2006, 17:49
so once i have bashed it i leave it to dry ?
leon

leon-b
21-11-2006, 18:08
on the next batch i have reserved a few for beachlover as he has already pm'd me, who else would be interested in some more match cases so i know how much more cartridges to get
this is not a list so that as soon as i get them i can send them out it is just to see who is interested
leon

weaver
21-11-2006, 18:19
Leon,

Have you a pic of the match case? I don't need one just would like to see how you went with it.

Could be a craft thing for our Boy Scouts to try.

leon-b
21-11-2006, 18:50
here is a pic of one of the very first ones i made, hope you guys like it
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/2993/openedmatchcasemv2.jpg
leon

bent-stick
21-11-2006, 19:42
so once i have bashed it i leave it to dry ?
leon

Yes I find it easer to split out when it is dry.

leon-b
21-11-2006, 19:44
i have just started to bash it, how do i know when i have bashed it enough
leon

leon-b
21-11-2006, 19:45
my mum is going to a meeting tonite and there one of her mates who shoots is going, she is going to ask him if he has any used cartdridges so hopefully i will have some made up sooner than i had expected
leon

leon-b
21-11-2006, 19:47
deleted has i posted it twice by accident sorry
leon

leon-b
22-11-2006, 15:48
today i have recieved my sfa from british red, my belt and some antler, they also left some things with the neighbours but they are not in at the moment, i will pick them up later
thanks guys
leon

leon-b
22-11-2006, 15:59
toddy sent me an od heavy canvas belt to use as a waist strap for my LK 35 but the belt that too much kit to carry sent me is alot bigger and it looks very strong so i think i will offer the other belt on here, its green and about an inch wide who wants it
leon

leon-b
22-11-2006, 16:37
well i went round the neighbours and they said nothing has been left with them, the postman must have got it wrong
leon

Too Much Kit To Carry
22-11-2006, 21:06
Wooohooo - cartridge cases have arrived in todays post that Mrs. Too Much Kit To Be Complained About has just give me!

Thank you so much Leon - they are beautiful and look like they will work really well in the field - I can't wait to load them up and give them a try :D

Thanks for including the strike area - top work mate :You_Rock_

I did try to leave you some spot on rep. but it would appear I have to spread it around before I can do so - sorry for now, but I won't forget :D

Your match cases will be very well received and very well used :cool:

cheers mate,

Phil.

PS - did your belt arrive today as Hunter_zero's and rapidboys's slings did??

leon-b
22-11-2006, 21:08
yes my belt arrived today and i love it, it is very sturdy
leon

Too Much Kit To Carry
22-11-2006, 21:14
yes my belt arrived today and i love it, it is very sturdy
leon

COOOOOOOOL :lmao:

Do you think that you will be able to get some use out of it??

How did you like the way Nikki wrapped it with the hazard tape? Bet your postman was wondering what was in there :lmao:

Phil.

leon-b
22-11-2006, 21:15
i think i will be able to get some use out of it
leon

Shinken
22-11-2006, 21:32
Hello leon, if you would like some antler for a stick tang. See member classifieds and choose a piece that isnt sold and i will send it to you. It's top stuff.

This is thanks for teaching me so much with your enthusiasm and willingness to learn without being embarresed to ask about the things you didnt know on a forum full of poeple who know there stuff!


Oh and before you lot get any ideas i cannot give it all away free, im not made of money :D

leon-b
22-11-2006, 21:33
i am now looking at the antler you have
leon

leon-b
22-11-2006, 21:35
i would like antler piece 8 if it is not sold, i will pm you my address
leon

Shinken
22-11-2006, 21:35
No worries mate when you have decided pm me your address and i will send it of to you!

Shinken
22-11-2006, 21:37
Argh 5 and 8 are sold mate! already with there owner! you need to make another choice!

leon-b
22-11-2006, 21:46
looks like it will have to be no.7 then, what could i use this for ?
leon

Shinken
22-11-2006, 21:48
You could use it for a stick Tang knife or a stick tang spoon knife etc. I may even have a stick tang blade somewhere

leon-b
22-11-2006, 21:56
shinken you have pm
singteck i recieved the pouch and i love it thanks
leon

bent-stick
22-11-2006, 21:59
i have just started to bash it, how do i know when i have bashed it enough
leon

It will be white and start to pull apart.

I'll try to do some pictures at the weekend. There used to be an article on the forrest knights site but it looks like it didn't survive the refurb.

Cheers,
David.

leon-b
22-11-2006, 22:00
ok look forward to the pics
leon

leon-b
23-11-2006, 15:37
fred gordon i recieved the antler and that tip looks like just what i nee
scottish wolf i am now fitting that lanyard to my sak now and that keyring is great
all i need now is a firesteel without a handle on, who wants to trade one for that belt i have
leon

leon-b
23-11-2006, 17:15
fred i have drilled the hole that the firesteel will go into in the antler tip that you gave me
leon

leon-b
23-11-2006, 18:12
who has a firesteel without a handle that they would be willing to trade me
leon

fred gordon
23-11-2006, 18:41
fred i have drilled the hole that the firesteel will go into in the antler tip that you gave me
leon
Thats great news. I'm glad it was what you were looking for. Since then I have been given another complete antler so I now have to look for things to do with it! :)

leon-b
23-11-2006, 19:06
you could use the antler for firesteel handles, knife handles
leon

Bisamratte
24-11-2006, 11:56
Hi Leon, the match case arrived today :) ....its brill :D

Thank you very much for "paying it forward" ;)

:You_Rock_

Danke

Andy

leon-b
24-11-2006, 15:47
its ok mate
does anyone on here want that belt i have
leon

leon-b
24-11-2006, 16:17
the postman came today with a parcel for me but they took it back as it wouldnt fit through the letter box, why couldnt they of just left it with a neighbour. anyway my mum is going to pick it up tommorow but i am camping this weekend so i wont know whats in there or who sent it untill sunday
leon

leon-b
26-11-2006, 20:59
my mum didnt collect my package so my dad is going to try and pick it up tommorow
leon

leon-b
27-11-2006, 15:47
another package arrived thanks mate in it was lures, hooks, rigs and something else inside a filkm container what was this
sorry i dont know who sent it to me as i am getting a fair bit of stuff coming through the post, i think it was dave though
my dad has picked the package up today so i will find out whats in it at about 5 pm
leon

leon-b
27-11-2006, 17:21
my dad vrought the package home and inside it was two reels, some lures, some hooks and other bits and bobs
thanks very much bushyboo
leon

bushyboo
28-11-2006, 21:02
no problem leon i hope you can get some use from them

leon-b
28-11-2006, 21:03
i sure will, i am most probebly going fishing next weekend, im going to try out some of them lures
leon

leon-b
30-11-2006, 16:04
i still have that belt left does any one want it ?
leon

bushyboo
30-11-2006, 19:33
hi leon what species are you fishing for ?... be sure to let us know how you get on

leon-b
30-11-2006, 20:50
im not sure if i will be going freshwater or sea, if i go freshwater theres a good chance of some carp but there is also bream and a few others in there, if its sea probebly bass
leon

leon-b
01-12-2006, 15:56
kevin my fishing bits arrived today thanks very much, there was a variety of stuff in there, the lures look great but most of them didnt have hooks in them i suppose that you just attach a hook when you are going to use them
thanks leon

leon-b
05-12-2006, 17:40
the belt and two mess tins are left who wants them ?
leon

chrisanson
05-12-2006, 18:08
would the belt fit a fat bugger like me?? ;)
chris

leon-b
05-12-2006, 18:13
probs it can adjust to fit most people
leon

chrisanson
05-12-2006, 19:30
probs it can adjust to fit most people
leon


nice one leon, then i would be very grateful of a new belt! and in the spirit of this thread I would like to offer some bone needles to any one who could use them
thanks chris

leon-b
05-12-2006, 19:56
if you want i will trade my belt for a bone needle, at the moment im not much of a sewer but i am hopefully going to start making a few pouches and that
pm me your address
leon

British Red
05-12-2006, 20:12
Chrisanson,

Well done mate - you have rep

If you have any more to send out, a new thread is probably in order!

Red

chrisanson
05-12-2006, 20:31
It’s a done deal leon PM sent m8. And thanks red I’ll start a new thread as soon as I figure out how! I am not bad at practical things but computers take some figuring sometimes ( a bit modern for me?)
Chris

leon-b
05-12-2006, 20:32
thanks, i dont have the pm mate
leon

leon-b
05-12-2006, 20:36
pm recieved thanks mate
leon

leon-b
05-12-2006, 20:43
ive just dug the belt out and it has a maximum waist of about 40 inches will this fit ?
ps i still have 2 never used mess tins up for grabs here
leon

chrisanson
05-12-2006, 20:53
just got your address i'll post them as soon as i can, probably be saturday tho( work :(
thanks again
chris

leon-b
05-12-2006, 20:56
will it fit you ?
leon

chrisanson
05-12-2006, 20:57
ive just dug the belt out and it has a maximum waist of about 40 inches will this fit ?
ps i still have 2 never used mess tins up for grabs here
leon

yep that will just fit nice. i need to lose some weight :o
must do some more walking ;)
chris

leon-b
05-12-2006, 21:00
good good
leon

leon-b
07-12-2006, 17:18
chris the belt went in the post today, if it doesnt fit you just put it back on here
leon

chrisanson
07-12-2006, 17:31
chris the belt went in the post today, if it doesnt fit you just put it back on here
leon
nice one Leon, thamks alot m8, i get the needls in the post ASP
chris

leon-b
07-12-2006, 17:32
thanks, next weekend i will get some more cartridges, who would like a match case so i can get an idea of how much to get
leon

kobalt01
07-12-2006, 18:07
I would like one if possible as i have been interested in making one myself for ages but havent ever been able to get any cartridges from near where I live. Either that or if you could just send me a few not made into cases i would be very grateful.

Matt

leon-b
07-12-2006, 18:36
what would you prefer, me to make you one or me to send you a couple of cartridges ?
leon

kobalt01
07-12-2006, 18:51
Umm very kind either way, if you could send me a couple of cartridges as they could be a something interesting for me to do.

Matt

leon-b
07-12-2006, 18:53
ok as soon as i get some i will send them out to you
if you could pm me now with your address i could get them sent out to you earlier allthough it will still be a week
leon

OzaawaaMigiziNini
07-12-2006, 22:19
hi guys british red gave me the idea so i thought i would put a few things up

2 x british army mess tins brand new you can have both or just the one - reserved

1 x brand new scrim net - gone

8 x cartrige match cases gone

first to pm me gets what ever they want

i would like some sinew, a small piece of antler etc but dont feel that you have to give anything if you are hard up

leon


What kind of sinew? Synthetic or Genuine Animal tendon? I can get you either... I have a few rolls of syntheic and four (maybe three) tendons from last year's moose. Don't worry about sending me anything or owing me, My own version of paying it foreward, need some good karma sooner or later in my life :yelrotflm

British Red
07-12-2006, 22:38
OMN

You have rep!

Red

chrisanson
09-12-2006, 09:49
Leon,
got the belt this morning, fits a treat. thanks very much m8.
am of to post som needles now .
Chris

leon-b
09-12-2006, 09:54
glad you like it, looking forward to recieving the needles
any pics ?
leon

chrisanson
09-12-2006, 17:25
glad you like it, looking forward to recieving the needles
any pics ?
leon
sorry leon i hve allready posted them
chris

leon-b
09-12-2006, 17:27
should recieve it soon then
leon

leon-b
09-12-2006, 17:36
ok dont worry about it
thanks leon

beachlover
11-12-2006, 00:04
As leon has started this, I thought I'd carry it on in his thread.
I have these;
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8256/dsc00102xp1.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00102xp1.jpg)
One MSR stainless steel pot that locks shut and holds 475ml - GONE

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/7248/1139164381origvx5.th.jpg (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1139164381origvx5 .jpg)
One Stainless steel Tiffin. About 4" tall and 4" Diameter when put together gone

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6380/dsc00103nc3.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00103nc3.jpg)
One mini Trangia minus the burner unless I find it befpre posting. GONE
Can't say I need anything really, so free to good homes,
BUT unless it is someone who has contributed to the "good Karma" thing, I'd like them to go to people with less than 150 posts, rather than regulars with quick fingers.

Aragorn
11-12-2006, 00:23
i'd love to have the trangia, pm sent.

beachlover
12-12-2006, 11:10
Trangia and pots all posted today.

leon-b
12-12-2006, 15:45
thanks mate, chris i have recieved the needles they look great now all i have to do is get some sewing practice
leon

Aragorn
12-12-2006, 16:01
that's great thanks again, hopefully i can find some surplus gear so i can return the getsture for somebody

leon-b
12-12-2006, 16:13
chris how did you make these needles and what tools did you use ?
leon

leon-b
17-12-2006, 15:45
i recieved the two pots and the spade, compass and torch
i really love the msr pot but i dont think the other will get used so im putting it back on here, i hope you dont mind mate
its a small pot with two clips either side to keep the lid on and a hoop on the top so it can be hung over a fire
i cant remember who but someone wanted some cartridges, well ive got them and they should be sent of to you on monday
thanks leon

Dougster
17-12-2006, 15:57
Leon I'd love that pot. PM sent.

Richard

Dougster
17-12-2006, 17:47
I'll leave it and let Scottishwolf have this one.

leon-b
17-12-2006, 17:53
thanks very much mate, scottish wolf looks like its yours then, pm me your address and i will try and get it in the post tommorow
thanks leon

leon-b
17-12-2006, 17:55
i think its you that im sending the cartridges to lol, i accidentaly deleted your pm so please could you send me your address again
thanks leon

chrisanson
17-12-2006, 17:57
chris how did you make these needles and what tools did you use ?
leon


sorry leon, didnt see your post( lots of work on :()
i made the needles from bone from the butcher. If you are in a hurry get a dog bone from the pet shop. I use a coping saw mostly but you could use a hacksaw. I used a pin vice to drill the holes and a file and sandpaper to finish them. Hope this helps.
I will look forward to seeing you first leather pouch.
Chris

scottishwolf
17-12-2006, 18:12
Nice one leon and dougster, much appreciated :D

leon-b
17-12-2006, 18:37
chrisanson i think the next thing i will trade for will be some leather and maybe a few tips on how to make a simple pouch
i have two more matchcases made up all i need to do is put a striker on top which i will do tonight
if you want them please pm me your address so i can get them off tommorow otherwise they wont arrive before chrimbo
leon

leon-b
17-12-2006, 20:46
if you want them say quickly because i would like to get them in the post tommorow
leon

g4ghb
18-12-2006, 16:22
what sort of pouch would you like to make mate? - and what tools have you got?

leon-b
18-12-2006, 16:25
i would like to make a simple tinder pouch, at the moment i have a bone awl and some bone needles, thats it
leon

g4ghb
18-12-2006, 16:40
so a soft pouch like I sent you before?;)

drop me a pm with your details and i'll send you some leather out! :)

leon-b
18-12-2006, 16:48
thanks very much
yes exacltly like the pouch you sent me, how did you make it and what tools did you use ?
leon

spamel
18-12-2006, 16:54
Leon, look for a post by PatrickM he makes some antler needles using traditional methods. It is amzing and will inspire you no end. I made a needle out of bamboo, and although it works a treat, it tends to split every now and then leaving it a bit thinner each time. Eventually it will dissapear!

leon-b
18-12-2006, 17:01
i might get some bone next time im in town, what bone should i get ?
leon

chrisanson
18-12-2006, 18:06
if you have a wilkinson's near you just get one of the dog bones( the ones that are wraped in polythene) there are some that have bee filled with somthing for the dogs but you need the ones that are hollow. then just pick any one and start cuting :) if you want to carve it, i find it easyer to carve before i cut. use a pencil to draw an out line.
chris

leon-b
18-12-2006, 18:13
so the hollow dog bones with the filling are no good ?
leon

g4ghb
18-12-2006, 18:58
thanks very much yes exacltly like the pouch you sent me, how did you make it and what tools did you use ?

leon

It dosn't require much...

a knife (or strong scissors) to cut the leather
a needle (not sharp)
thread (thick and strong - I used upholstry thread for mine)
a pen (to mark out)
a stitch marker (though you could use a ruler)
a bradle
and a board (scrap bit of 'contiboard' ) to punch the holes on


Hmmm - that seems a long list but it isn't really I guess......

leon-b
18-12-2006, 19:01
i have most of that i just need a hole marker and some strong thread
leon

g4ghb
18-12-2006, 20:46
you can get away with just using a ruler and a pen to mark the holes - just takes a little longer!

leon-b
18-12-2006, 20:52
ok thanks
chrisanson, can i use the hollow dog bones with stuff in the middle ?
leon

g4ghb
18-12-2006, 21:33
Ok, this is my method (in words) howe to make a pouch like this



http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/4994/pouch7cq.th.jpg (http://img330.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pouch7cq.jpg)


- If people want I may try to make a pictoral tutorial one day.......


1. With 2 pieces of leather 'faces' together mark out a U shape just larger than the size you want your final pouch (remember that when closed the top is drawn in and thus you loose some of the final volume)

2. I temporally fix them together in the middle with double sided tape so they don’t move hen punching the holes

3. Mark the holes round the edge of the bag leaving the top of the U open

4. Punch the holes with a bradle onto a piece of scrap board

5. Thread your needle with just over 3 times the rough length of your stitch line around the pouch (don’t skimp – there is nothing worse than running out with 50mm to go!)

6. Starting about 40mm or so down one side to sew with a simple running stitch (in one hole out the next etc) down the pouch side round the bottom and up the other side – as you start leave ~100mm or so excess thread and be careful not to accidentally pull it through at the start – this is what you will use to finish it of with!

7. At the ‘top’ of the other end sew right round 3 times to make a really strong edge and then continue ‘back the way you came’ – your stitches should now be opposite to the first way so it looks like a continuous line of thread rather than thread gap thread gap…

8. Continue back to where you started and on past to go up to the end (with the 3 extra stitches again) and then back down to your starting point

9. Tie a knot with the two ends and then continue to sew the ends in to the stitching you have made then cut of close to your final knots

10. Turn ‘right side out’

11. Punch holes for the thong in the top

12. Thread a thong through the holes to fasten

13. Fill it with stuff and use it! :D
hope this makes sence! - Shout if ypu need clarification anywhere?

leon-b
18-12-2006, 21:35
thanks i will try a pouch like this when i get the leather
leon

g4ghb
18-12-2006, 21:37
I'll go and pack it now! ;) - otherwise i'll forget! :o :lmao:

leon-b
18-12-2006, 21:38
lol thanks mate
got any more tips ?
leon

g4ghb
18-12-2006, 21:48
Tiz Packed! :)



lol thanks mate
got any more tips ?
leon

Take it slow - you can always 'unpick and start again' but a hole is a hole!

Sounds silly but you can practice on thick paper or an old tshirt etc until you are happy with your technique!

Perhaps most importantly - HAVE FUN!

....and finally don't forget the piccies! - the people here are suckers for piccies! ;)

leon-b
18-12-2006, 21:51
thanks mate my nan is a sewer so i think i will do it rnd hers so she can help me
leon

g4ghb
18-12-2006, 22:00
good plan! - is always nice to have someone on hand even if they don't know exactly what you want / mean - together you can come up with a way round most things that works for you!

leon-b
18-12-2006, 22:00
yes and i sleep round hers every other week so thats good
leon

chrisanson
19-12-2006, 18:58
ok thanks
chrisanson, can i use the hollow dog bones with stuff in the middle ?
leon
hello again,
yes you could use bones with stuff in the middle but its much easyer to use the ones without as you wuld need to remove it befor you can work the bone.
chris

g4ghb
20-12-2006, 16:38
leather posted leon! ;)

leon-b
20-12-2006, 17:44
chris i will get some bones as soon as i am near the pet shop, g4ghb thanks very much
off topic but i was wondering why did you choose your name to be g4ghb ?
leon

g4ghb
20-12-2006, 18:32
A longish story but in short it is a combination of my nickname G4 and my initals ghb (because g4 is not long enough)


the g4 kinda came from the idea of a is for apple, b is for ball....

leon-b
20-12-2006, 19:20
thanks lol
leon

leon-b
22-12-2006, 11:24
leather recieved
thanks leon

g4ghb
22-12-2006, 11:27
ace! - see the Royal Mail can work well when they want to!

Should be enough to keep you busy over xmas ;)

leon-b
22-12-2006, 11:31
yes my mum is going to town today i think so i will go in with her and buy a fee leather making bits and bobs
leon

g4ghb
22-12-2006, 11:47
have fun! ;) - and lets see the results :)

leon-b
22-12-2006, 14:42
well it turns out that she isnt going to town now, i rang her up and she said she is in tescos so i told her to have a look round ther, but i dont think they will sell any
leon

ScottC
22-12-2006, 14:44
Leon I'd love a couple of cartridges if poss so I can make some match cases.

leon-b
22-12-2006, 14:45
i dont have any caartridges left but i do have a match cas ready made up, is this any good ?
leon

ScottC
22-12-2006, 14:47
That's ok I like to make my own bits, but if you ever have any empty cartridges available it would be great if I could have a couple.

Cheers
Scott.

g4ghb
22-12-2006, 14:51
I'll send you some ;) - drop me a pm with your addy....not sure when I will get to the post office though! ....... I'm sure i'm busy doing something the next few days! :lmao:

leon-b
22-12-2006, 14:51
remind me in about a fortnight and i should have some more
leon

ScottC
22-12-2006, 14:53
I'll send you some ;) - drop me a pm with your addy....not sure when I will get to the post office though! ....... I'm sure i'm busy doing something the next few days! :lmao:

Hi g4 was that to me re: cartridges or to leon re: leather making stuff? :)

g4ghb
22-12-2006, 14:56
Hi g4 was that to me re: cartridges or to leon re: leather making stuff? :)

oops! - sorry should have been more clear! - it was to you mate! ;)

leon-b
22-12-2006, 16:04
my mum came back with some thread, some needles and a hole puncher with about 10 different sizes, it can punch through leather plastic ect, i am starting my pouch now
leon

g4ghb
22-12-2006, 16:08
good ol Mum! :D

Unless the punch is v small you are probably still better of with a awl for the stitch holes but will sounds just the job for the 'thong' holes at the top ;)

leon-b
22-12-2006, 16:16
yes it goes from fairly small to fairly big and is a revolving leather punch, i have done all the holes with it already and i will begin sewing in a little while, how much times should i sew it ?
leon

g4ghb
22-12-2006, 16:24
one double row should be fine - like this?....... ( a poor diagram but hopefully you understand)


http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/5116/stitchingoy5.th.jpg (http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stitchingoy5.jpg)

leon-b
22-12-2006, 17:04
i have done one then tyed it and started again, i am going to do this twice?
i think i am going to have trouble turning it right side out though
leon

leon-b
22-12-2006, 17:17
well i turned it right side out and what a mess it looks, i used some old leather that i had lying about, i think next time i will use your leather, i need to get some better thread
leon

g4ghb
22-12-2006, 18:32
can you explain why / how it looks a mess? - that way we may be able to work out what to concentrate on to improve things.


depending on the size of your first pouch you could create more seams, making it smaller - that way you can improve your technique without wasting any more leather

g4ghb
22-12-2006, 18:32
oh yes.... whats wrong with the thread?

leon-b
22-12-2006, 18:49
i spoke to singtech and he said that i should use more stiches per inch, the thread is nylon monofilement and apparently not flexible enough, i have started a new pouch which doesnt involve any stiching and is held together with some old brown shoe laces
i will post pics later
leon

g4ghb
22-12-2006, 19:33
cool - experementation is the way forward buddy! ;)

leon-b
30-12-2006, 19:42
i got about 6 more cartridges today so if any body wants any, i would like knife making parts in return if anybody has any. but you can have these for free if you want
leon

chrisanson
30-12-2006, 20:55
allo leon,
what are ya looking for?
chris

leon-b
30-12-2006, 21:31
anything to do with knife making really
leon

leon-b
08-01-2007, 19:38
i would like to trade for some flint so i can start basic knapping, i have a variety of stuff to trade just name what you want and i will see if i have it
leon

British Red
08-01-2007, 20:20
Leon,

Quality knapping flint I can send you for free. I have huge pieces (half a metre across). Trouble is the postage would be HUGE. I don't know what a large flint nodule weighs...20lbs? More? Think like 4 house bricks size but much heavier....

If you and your dad ever get down here I'll save you some good bits - but you don't want too many - five or six weigh more than you do!

Red

British Red
08-01-2007, 20:21
Tell you what - I could flake you off some arrow head sized bits that shouldn't hurt me too much to post (I have to split some for someone else) - would that be any use?

Red

leon-b
08-01-2007, 20:22
yes please red but im also looking for some smaller bits to keep me busy in the mean time
leon

leon-b
08-01-2007, 20:23
yes please red a few small bits sounds great
leon

leon-b
01-02-2007, 07:43
i have some more stuff first off is two brand new mess tins never used, i will also throw in some inertube and a tiny bit of birch bark to whoever wants it
second is a leather pouch for my sak, i never used it so its going up here, it cost me £20 and as it has never been used i would like something for this, maybe a few woolen blankets, im open to interesting offers though
leon

leon-b
01-02-2007, 18:32
any one ?
leon

huntersforge
01-02-2007, 20:57
very generous offer leon .
I am sure you will get some interest :You_Rock_

leon-b
01-02-2007, 21:01
not yet but i hope i will
leon

davef
02-02-2007, 09:40
I've got a pocket full of used 12b cartridges if anyone wants them... did have loads but cleaned out the back of the car recently, got sick of standing on the loose ones rolling around! :lmao:

scottishwolf
02-02-2007, 11:00
pm sent :)

davef
02-02-2007, 16:39
will get them in the post to you ASAP

leon-b
03-02-2007, 17:54
mess tins are gone pouch is still left, who wants it ?
leon

bushtank
03-02-2007, 19:26
yes please mate what do you want for it :beerchug:

leon-b
04-02-2007, 19:11
pouch is still left as he already had one like it, but i have some blankets coming so i am looking for something walking related or even cash
leon

ady05
04-02-2007, 19:13
do you have any pics of the pouch leon :)
ady

leon-b
04-02-2007, 19:16
yes i do
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n9/leon-b_2006/SAKpouch.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n9/leon-b_2006/SAKpouch2.jpg
leon

Bushcraft4life
04-02-2007, 19:27
Very nice leon. Wish i had an sak. (prefer fixed blades tho).
Hope you get something good for it.

leon-b
04-02-2007, 19:30
you should get an sak mate, great things
leon

leon-b
04-02-2007, 19:43
ady05 you like ? do you have anything walking related to trade ? what do you have to trade ?
leon

ady05
04-02-2007, 20:20
nothing to trade leon but if the price is right i may be interested :D

ady05
04-02-2007, 21:07
pm sent :)

leon-b
04-02-2007, 21:39
all gone now, might have something else to trade soon
leon

leon-b
28-03-2007, 19:18
i have dug something else out now, its a navy blue thinsulate wooly hat which seems very thick and warm, i would use it but its far to big for me, i think it cost me under a fiver
looking for a poncho but am up for offers
leon

leon-b
09-04-2007, 12:48
more stuff up for trade here
1 Roe deer antler
A compass, i can put pics up if needed
leon

chrisanson
09-04-2007, 21:39
more stuff up for trade here
1 Roe deer antler
A compass, i can put pics up if needed
leon


what ya lookin for , for the antler?
Chris

leon-b
09-04-2007, 21:42
anything what have you got ?
leon

chrisanson
12-04-2007, 00:01
what do you need?

leon-b
12-04-2007, 12:44
you have PM, roe antler might be gone, but the compass and thinsulate wooly hat are still left
leon

leon-b
14-06-2007, 20:25
more stuff !!!!! i got some army woolen blankets off a member here in a trade but havent actually ever used them :( so one of the two is up for trade now :) i might be persuaded to give both away if the trade is good enough, i think there worth about £7 each but im not 100% sure
what have ya got ?
leon

Dougster
14-06-2007, 21:03
Without wishing to sound churlish Leon, why are you offering stuff up for trade under the 'pay it forward' banner? Surely starting a new thread would be clearer?

leon-b
14-06-2007, 21:20
sure mate, good idea
leon