SotP Group buy – Norwegian Lavvu tents & stoves [Archive]

MagiKelly

01-11-2006, 12:18

There is a group buy being run on SotP for the above. This thread has the details

http://www.songofthepaddle.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=2073

Post here if you are interested. If there enough numbers for this to go ahead I will help to liaise between the two forums even though it is not me that is running it.

I thought there would be too many of you interested not to let you in on it.

Bigman

01-11-2006, 13:20

I'm interested in this group buy for a Tundra 8, stove & chimney plus the ground sheet.

When do you want the money?

MagiKelly

01-11-2006, 13:29

The money will be payable in advance but not until final numbers are known. The overall discount will depend on the numbers so the price is not set till then.

Bigman

01-11-2006, 13:43

That's okay then, I will put the money aside for this.

To get a Tipi and all the extra's is a real plus point. :D

Have been after a Tipi for ages, a few months ago there was a post about this and I expressed a huge interest and Moonraker provided loads of information about Tipi's etc but sadly I didn't have the funds. :(

billycan

01-11-2006, 19:37

Hi John,
I am interested but not sure yet which, i've just had a look on SOTP and the link to Beaver tipi's, but still i need of some more specific details of the Tinde and Tundra 3 and 4 eg weight?
Wonder if you might be able to help,
Cheers Magikelly

Mr_Rimps

01-11-2006, 19:37

I am sooo tempted.
The Tundra 8 would be a smidge too big for my requirements.
Would meanderer over on SotP be flexible on the size of the Tundra's? I would prefer a Tundra 4

Andy

billycan

01-11-2006, 19:39

LIke andy, i too would prefer a 4.

CLEM

01-11-2006, 20:11

Very very very tempted! Sadly I am broke :o .Nothing new there then! :lmao:

MagiKelly

01-11-2006, 20:11

Jon will be watching this thread and I suggest you keep an eye on the SotP thread. If you look at his last post you will see that he can mix the different sizes of tipis and will be posting indicative prices soon.

When he does I will try to remember to post here pointing it out.

MagiKelly

01-11-2006, 21:59

Prices for different sizes and materials now posted on the SotP thread

As promised, here are the prices for all of the single-pole Lavvu tents from Bison.

The details on the links are jpegs from a brochure but there is info on www.beaver.no (http://www.beaver.no/) (in Norwegian as well) but most of the specs are obvious from the units they're measured in.

First, the Tinde range, ripstop polyester, size, weight etc. details here (http://www.africussion.org/tinde_data.jpg).

Tinde 3 - £165

Tinde 4 - £180

Tinde 8 - £250

Tinde 16 - £365 recent piccy (http://www.africussion.org/tinde16.jpg)

Then the Tundra range, 185gsm cotton/polyester, size, weight etc. details here (http://www.africussion.org/tundra_data.jpg).

Tundra 3 - £190

Tundra 4 - £225

Tundra 8 - £280

Tundra 16 - £405

The steel stove, which is basically 40cm x 40cm x 22cm wide has legs which raise it 10cm and a 5cm stub on top where the flue sits, pictures here (http://www.africussion.org/stove1.jpg) and here (http://www.africussion.org/stove2.jpg).

Stove with flue - £185

Heavy duty groundsheets to fit the 3, 4, 8 & 16 ranges are £45, £55, £60 & £70.

These prices are delivered into the UK, duty and VAT paid. I have included a small contingency which covers the as-yet unknown carrier fee and other possibilities. It is always easier to come down a fiver or tenner than go up! UK delivery is then additional at cost – around £10-20 depending on what is ordered is not far wrong for UK mainland.

If you go looking at their website and fancy the 13m diameter, 180kg monster traditional, forget it! It will really mess up my sums!!!

While I've been typing, Budvar asked about leadtime – my friend picked one up from stock recently but I will ask about the general stock situation. I guess it also depends on who wants what...

Again, any queries please PM me or post here. I have checked the links but shout if they give trouble.

Enjoy!!!

billycan

01-11-2006, 23:08

Is the polyester Tinde suitable for the stove/ fires as well as the tundra?

Cheers

bilko

02-11-2006, 02:37

Is the polyester Tinde suitable for the stove/ fires as well as the tundra?

Cheers
Apparently so
http://webvertical.greit.no/webvertical/Rammeverk/rammeverk3.asp?KID=25&PRID=184&Action=Visprodukter
What an excellent deal magikelly. you are a very good man to offer your services YET AGAIN! :)
Do you think you would need an inner though to stop it raining inside. Don't know much about Lavus. Can i be realy thick and ask if the number4, 8 16 etc equates to the amount of people it sleeps. Also what are the advantages of cotton over nylon with regards to condensation?, Don't think i could afford an inner too.
i think that if i were to buy one i would get the stove too but with your experience in tipis what size would be the minimum for having an open fire albeit a small one?

MagiKelly

02-11-2006, 09:41

Yes you can use the stove in the polyester one. They do say you can have a fire but I would not recommend it.

My current tipi is just over 4m in diameter and that is big enough for a fire in a firebox but it is cotton and I would not want to do the same in a polyester one. I only have experience of the cotton one so cannot comment on the condensation issue. You will see it is discussed a bit on the SotP thread and that cotton is better than poly but that the poly should still be okay with a ground sheet and an eye on ventilation.

Also much as I would like to take credit for the work on this I am not running the group buy. I am just a messages passing the information over here from the buy on SotP and I will pass the information back as well. It is not me who will be placing the order or sending out a big bunch of tipis and stoves.

rik_uk3

02-11-2006, 13:24

How waterproof are the poly cotton ones? I'm very interested :)

MagiKelly

02-11-2006, 15:15

How waterproof are the poly cotton ones? I'm very interested :)

You can't use them underwater but they will keep rain off :D

meanderer

02-11-2006, 17:26

Hi peeps

Meanderer here, joined up so MagiKelly and I don't have to exchange PMs or emails many times per day!

Any questions on the group buy - first try the SotP thread, then ask away. I'm going to give it another week or so to give it the best chance of achieving sufficient numbers.

Enjoy!!!

Jon

Emberglow

02-11-2006, 22:04

I am very interested in this but wondered if I bought a polycotton version 8 would I need an inner liner?

meanderer

03-11-2006, 01:23

You'd have to ask MagiKelly whether he uses an inner liner...

Personally I wouldn't, but then I'm going to have a stove :)

Also, I'm not at all sure that inners are an option from Bison - unfortunately my Norwegian isn't what it should be!

Some kind of groundsheet is needed really, but a B&Q cheapie will do the trick - especially if you use a firebox/open fire! The ones supplied are not cheap but lay nice and flat and fit the shape of the Lavvu.

The numbers are indeed sleeping counts - would be pretty cosy mind, the 8 & 16 have you laid out radially with your toes near the stove and a gap where the door is.

Cheers

Jon

billycan

03-11-2006, 09:32

Hi, well done for organising this Jon (meanderer) :You_Rock_
Very keen on Tundra 4, will confirm soon.
Are the groundsheets the same i.e hexagonal and do the clip in somehow? If you were using a fire box/stove would the legs keep the stove high enough from the groundsheet for safety reasons etc. I was thinking maybe half a ground sheet or sheeted area for sleeping etc while stove in middle on un groundsheeted area.
Also what is the arrangement round the skirt of the tipi, where it meets the ground? Does it just peg down or is there an extra small material flap to turn in like some of the other tipi's.

Thanks

Billycan

ggfh666

03-11-2006, 10:01

great that this is being organised, altough I'll probably won't fit in as I'm in Belgium? Maybe postage would be just too much.

I also miss the inner tents. Is noone taking them so far?

MagiKelly

03-11-2006, 10:01

I don't have an inner tent and have never used one so can't comment on their effectiveness,

Mr_Rimps

03-11-2006, 16:35

I like a Tundra/Tinde 4 with groundsheet and stove please.

To help make my mind up on the Tundra or Tinde could someone give me a run down on the advantages and disadvantages of ripstop polyester over cotton/polyester as used in the Lavvu Tents.

Thanks
Andy

meanderer

03-11-2006, 17:09

Weight is the big advantage of the ripstop models.

In speaking to the Bison guy, the canvas is stronger, spark tolerant and breathable but is twice (ish) the weight. For me, it's the 'feel' of canvas too.

The hydrostatic head (vertical column of water) of the material is far better for ripstop but the shape of the tents will mean there's no puddling anyway. If your tent is under 4m of water I would suggest a different camping spot....

Unless you need to carry your tent some distance, the general advice is go for canvas.

Other comments welcome, PLEASE! I started a thread on this very subject over on SotP prior to deciding (foolishly) to set up a group buy - Me?, I'm going to get a canvas Lavvu!

Let me know and I'll add you to the 'interested' list - no commitments at this stage.

Cheers

Jon

Mr_Rimps

03-11-2006, 17:30

Thanks Jon, very helpful.

Please put me down for the canvas one, 1x Tundra 4 with groundsheet and stove.
Cheers
Andy

ggfh666

03-11-2006, 17:51

I'm interested in the 4 person, probably Tinde + floor.
But only if Belgium is an option of course.

billycan

03-11-2006, 19:23

Hi Jon,
Could you put me on the definately interested list for a Tundra 4, not sure about the groundsheet yet, would like to know more, do you or would you use the groundsheet with the stove?

Cheers

mojofilter

04-11-2006, 00:43

Very, very tempted indeed, but its a lot of money so near to christmas... :cool:

Does anyone know if the size 8 could be put up single handed, and how long will these little stoves burn for on a fill?

meanderer

04-11-2006, 08:41

One of the big costs is getting the tents accross the water to the UK. For onward shipment to Belgium you would not be far off bringing the cost back to full price - but I'm assuming that shipping would be less for a single tent if it doesn't cross the North Sea, I'll check!

The groundsheet will get holed as it's not a fancy zipped jobbie like the Tentipi. I will be making a aluminium case for mine and have decided that the lid (or a baking tray until the lid exists) will sit under the stove as protection. I guess that fire users have to modify their groundsheets.

All models can be put up single-handed. Three of the peg loops are connected to each other by a triangle of webbing, peg these three in first. In you go with your centre pole, up goes the middle and you have a stable structure straight away.

Strange world observation.... Some see Christmas as a reason TO get one, others as a reason against... :dunno:

Hope this helps.

Jon

Rob

04-11-2006, 08:53

Does anyone know the height of the chimney?

meanderer

04-11-2006, 12:25

The standard kit is enough to clear a 3.5m high tent.

Sections are around 300mm high (allowing for overlap) and can be ordered seperately or the whole thing can be bought together by specifying the height of the tent it's for.

Flue sections are only £7 each.

Hope this helps.

Jon

Too Much Kit To Carry

04-11-2006, 13:03

Hi,

I'm really very interested in one of these tents - our family dome style tent gave up the ghost at Wilderness Gathering earlier this year and we have got to replace it.

I have had no experience with the Lavvu tents and but we, as a family, love the whole concept.

Could somebody please help with chosing the right size? We are a family of 3 - 2 adults and a 6 year old - SWMBLT said that she get too cramped in a tent that she cannot stand up in so height is an issue. We would obviously need to have space for 3 sleeping mats, stove and a seating/food prep/ eating area.

I have two expeditions booked for next year but the year after i plan to take the entire summer holiday off and travel through Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denamark etc. and then back to the UK. Having something that is quick and simple to errect yet comfy enough for a prolonged camp would be great.

Any pointers, advice, tip etc would be greatly appreciated :D

Many thanks in advance,

Phil and family.

Rob

05-11-2006, 08:54

CLEM

05-11-2006, 10:02

I am really hoping that there will be a second group lavvu buy at some point in the not too distant I tell you as right now I am too broke to take advantage of this one :o

richardnhunt

05-11-2006, 21:37

Hi,
I have had no experience with the Lavvu tents

Yep, I'm in this bracket too. Quite like the idea although my better half is yet to be convinced. Thinking about using it as a family tent with one very young child. Will be all summer camping

Any thoughs, help or experience welcomed

Rich

CraigM9

05-11-2006, 22:18

John,

I'm interested in the complete package - things just keep coming up to stop me from buying a rigid canoe eh!

I will keep an eye on the thread for further info!

Cheers,

Craig.

bilko

06-11-2006, 00:09

Hi Jon
put me down for a Tundra ( canvas ) 8 man plus groundsheet and stove please.
i would have liked the 4 but i'm thinking i'll only use it for car camping as even the tinde 4 with all my normal kit is too big for carrying on your own. After all the main attraction is the stove otherwise i would go for a hex shelter or something.

Might as well have the extra room with the kids or just the luxury of space by myself.
I was wondering about cooking on the stove, any thoughts?. Maybe get someone to grind out a hole on the top and fix wire mesh under the hole/lid then replace the cutout circle with a hinge. There would be some heat loss but negligable in our british climate i would think.

Anyway, thanks for doing this, i was hesitant because it is a lot of money ( although not for this item ) but i guess one has to snatch this kind of offer whilst they can. :)

Bigman

06-11-2006, 08:57

A huge thanks goes out to MagiKelly and meanderer for arranging this group buy. :You_Rock_

My order is;

Tundra 8 - £280

Stove with Flue - £185

Heavy Duty Groundsheet - £60

And approx £20 or maybe a bit more for postage.

All I need to know is "when" and "how" you would like the money, either cheque or paypal.

Too Much Kit To Carry

06-11-2006, 09:13

Bigman

06-11-2006, 09:22

Ummmmmmmm 1 or 2 but it's the amount of kit that will brought along as well plus I need space to "Party". :lmao:

Too Much Kit To Carry

06-11-2006, 09:27

Ummmmmmmm 1 or 2 but it's the amount of kit that will brought along as well plus I need space to "Party". :lmao:

I'm considering this size need to sleep 2 adults and my son who is six. SHMBLT wants the extra space to be able to cook/prep food etc and it would be great to have the space just to chill out and make things bushcrafty.

I have two expeditions planned and booked for next year but in 2008 I want to do a summers-worth of travelling through Norway, Sweden etc prolly take 9 countries and have a big comfy tent with a stove really appeals to us. I'd prefer to have too much space than too little and as this adventure requires a lot of driving the weight aspect is of no importance.

Looks like we will buy the same as you :D

Cheers,

Phil.

ggfh666

06-11-2006, 09:33

Since these come without inner tent, I was wondering about using a mosquito net as inner tent.
Especially when going to Scandinavia this is a must, if you don't have the inner tent.

Too Much Kit To Carry

06-11-2006, 09:37

Since these come without inner tent, I was wondering about using a mosquito net as inner tent.
Especially when going to Scandinavia this is a must, if you don't have the inner tent.

Good point - SHMBLT was wondering about the Mozzy situation in a Lavvu :rolleyes:

Is an Inner Tent/Mozzy net available for these Lavvus??

Phil.

Tony

06-11-2006, 09:41

Ooo, I'd so like to have one of these, nice big one, stove snowing outside.....Maybe one day!!

Bigman

06-11-2006, 09:52

I'm considering this size need to sleep 2 adults and my son who is six. SHMBLT wants the extra space to be able to cook/prep food etc and it would be great to have the space just to chill out and make things bushcrafty.

I have two expeditions planned and booked for next year but in 2008 I want to do a summers-worth of travelling through Norway, Sweden etc prolly take 9 countries and have a big comfy tent with a stove really appeals to us. I'd prefer to have too much space than too little and as this adventure requires a lot of driving the weight aspect is of no importance.

Looks like we will buy the same as you :D

Cheers,

Phil.

I have been after a Teepee style tent for some time because I am fed up with trying to srcamble into a tent on my hands and knees.

I am not into hiking around anymore with a bergen on my back because simply I cannot do this anymore.

I have a trailer so carrying a tent like this is not a problem.

I wanted something that had a generous amount of room plus I would be able to stand up in.

And the most important thing is a stove to keep the coffee hot on. :lmao:

Mooney

06-11-2006, 17:30

Tundra 4 please, no groundseet

meanderer

06-11-2006, 22:17

To throw in my ha'pennorth...

There will be 3 or 4 of us camping and I'm going for a Tundra 8. The feeling of height and space in the 16 was amazing but the 8 is only a metre less in diameter and just as high.

They can all be put up single-handed and although we cooked (for 6) on a primus the stove boiled up the kettle pretty quickly and the new style stove (as being supplied) has room for two pans I'm told.

If you're not planning on carrying it far, go big, the space is wonderful!

CraigM9 - I'll probably start to firm things up around the weekend so we can have 'em for Christmas... Keep an eye on the thread.

Cheers

Jon

ggfh666

07-11-2006, 12:24

for those interested, I've inquired about inner tents :

Hello! We do not jet have innertents. We are working to get it made,
but
we have no idea before spring 2007 when it can be made. Not many
customers are asking for it. If you are considering to by a Tundra
tent,
it is 185 g cotton/polyester per m2 - and you do not need a innertent
if
it's not extremely cold. Because it is so much cotton there is no
problem with condense either.

Med vennlig hilsen / Best regards
Beaver Kanosenter / Bison Telt

Vidar Falck-Muus

Mr_Rimps

07-11-2006, 14:43

Thanks for that ggfh666. It reinforces the lack of condensation in the Tundras and answers the question regarding the need for an inner tent in a Tundra too.
However, it would be good to see some sort of mozzy netting behind the door.

A friendly note: As this is Meanderers group buy it would be a good idea to contact him before approaching the manufacturer. ;)

Cheers, Andy

meanderer

07-11-2006, 15:47

Fear not Mr Rimps....

Twas me that gave ggfh666 the contact details. I do not claim 'ownership' of the Bison Telt contact and all are at liberty to get in touch - this is after all an expensive item for group buy so everyone must satisfy themselves as to what they're buying!

That said... It's nice to feel protected.... :lmao:

Cheers

Jon

Mr_Rimps

07-11-2006, 15:58

Cool...as longs as we're all happy :D
(We mid summer boys stick together.. :rolleyes: )

Apologies ggfh666 for jumping to conclusions.

ggfh666

07-11-2006, 16:40

No problem Andy.

Squidders

07-11-2006, 21:44

Me too... although, looking back, ordering a tundra 16 was a little... well.... overkill!

It's a little on the big size :eek:

Ooo, I'd so like to have one of these, nice big one, stove snowing outside.....Maybe one day!!

paulcd

08-11-2006, 11:58

Hi
Am interested in the full canvas package, groundsheet, stove...any pictures of the canvas 8 readily available?
Am new to group buy...how do we conclude? PCD

richardnhunt

08-11-2006, 12:42

Me too... although, looking back, ordering a tundra 16 was a little... well.... overkill!

It's a little on the big size :eek:

Sorry - may be slow on the uptake here/missed something. Does this mean that you already have one of Bison's tipis - If so, how do you rate it?

Rich

Squidders

08-11-2006, 18:39

It's here but I haven't had the chance to unpack it all yet, I'm hoping to have a good look this weekend but we'll see what happens.

I'll take some photos of it when I do though... it's 6m diamiter and 3.5m high :eek:

i'm out in the woods with it on the 24th, 25th & 26th so i'll check it out fully then ;)

Sorry - may be slow on the uptake here/missed something. Does this mean that you already have one of Bison's tipis - If so, how do you rate it?

Rich

meanderer

09-11-2006, 11:20

Hey, Squidders. That's one hell of a tent!

I did camp in a Tinde 16 and was VERY tempted but, like you say, 'tis massive.

I hope you get it all unpacked over the weekend as I (and many others) would be really keen to hear your first impressions. I thought that the quality of the Tinde was good but have not seen a Tundra in the flesh - and that's what I'll be getting for myself.

I shall be confirming interest and finalising the order over the weekend and next week so an early report from you about yours would be MUCH APPRECIATED!

Did you get a stove as well or are you going to use a firebox?

Hope to hear soon.

Jon

meanderer

09-11-2006, 11:33

Hi
Am interested in the full canvas package, groundsheet, stove...any pictures of the canvas 8 readily available?
Am new to group buy...how do we conclude? PCD

Paulcd - I'm fairly new to group buys too.....

Current plan is that the offer rounds up during next week and I divide the import carriage by the final numbers and get a fixed (within reason) price. Then it's members cheque book time and then I order the whole lot - over £5K at the moment :eek:

I'm still chasing a photo of the Tundra 8 but it could be the one on this (http://www.africussion.org/tundra_data.jpg) datasheet - but I think that may be a 4.

I will add you to the 'interested' list as an 8 and confirm soon.

Cheers

Jon

CLEM

09-11-2006, 11:47

It's here but I haven't had the chance to unpack it all yet, I'm hoping to have a good look this weekend but we'll see what happens.

I'll take some photos of it when I do though... it's 6m diamiter and 3.5m high :eek:

i'm out in the woods with it on the 24th, 25th & 26th so i'll check it out fully then ;)Very much look forward to seeing this Squidders! :)

stuart f

12-11-2006, 10:23

could you put me down for a tinde 3 please
thanks

billycan

12-11-2006, 15:55

Please could you put me down for a Tundra 4, thanks...

Too Much Kit To Carry

12-11-2006, 16:37

Hi,

Thank you so much for getting this group buy sorted :You_Rock_

May we please order: -

Tundra 8

Ground sheet for Tundra 8

Stove

Many, many thanks,

Phil and family

meanderer

13-11-2006, 20:11

Hi Folks

With the boost to the SotP numbers that you guys have given, we're ready to go ahead and close the group buy. I've just posted this over on SotP but I hope you don't mind me recycling the words....

Numbers are better than predicted so prices should be a bit down on first estimates (carriage to UK is divided equally) but not by loads. I've even received the first cheque (!!!!!) from a member going on holiday and not wanting to miss out.

After a fair bit of messing around, I'm back to ParcelForce for carriage but highlands and islands is not going to be cheap, still a significant saving over direct though.

I shall go through and PM everyone on my 'interested' list - although a few have confirmed recently anyway. I will need confirmation and a postcode to start with and from that I can price up carriage and totals.

Bison have informed me that the tents now have a little window and mosquito netting in the doors.

If you've expressed interest, keep an eye on your BCUK inbox. If you want to go on the list, post here or PM me.

Cheers

Jon

bilko

13-11-2006, 21:51

Great!
pm returned, thankyou :)
I better get making some pegs then.

Bigman

13-11-2006, 22:09

Pm sent. :D

Too Much Kit To Carry

13-11-2006, 23:37

PM sent.

And once agian many thanks :You_Rock_

Phil.

Mr_Rimps

14-11-2006, 18:37

PM sent.

Thanks again

Andy

Paw Print Paul

16-11-2006, 12:38

Hi am I too late to grab myself a bargain tepe, what I want is ;
TUNDRA 4
GROUNDSHEET TO MATCH
STOVE WITH FLUE
Cheers.

hunterman

16-11-2006, 21:52

put me down for a Tundra 8 with ground sheet please
cheers steve

Mr_Rimps

19-11-2006, 15:34

Not had any communication for a while. Is every thing going OK?
If you need a hand with organising etc. Meanderer give me a PM. Happy to help.

Andy

meanderer

20-11-2006, 10:38

Hi Folks

All OK on the group buy! As this is a huge buy, the prospect of a cock-up does not thrill me... I'm just getting all the details bang up-to-date from the supplier before I do the last sums and ask for cheques.

The currency seems fairly stable but I need to know what the carriers are going to charge EXACTLY! With no margin to play with I want to make sure I've got it right!

There have been a couple of late-comers but they're now included.

I'm fairly close by to Bigman down yer in Devon so when a huge pallet of stuff arrives he may get a PM but otherwise I'm doing fine.

I should be finalising early this week if all goes well.

Thanks for support, patience and interest! More soon.

Jon

Rob

20-11-2006, 10:47

Good man :You_Rock_

Mr_Rimps

20-11-2006, 12:22

Good man :You_Rock_

I second that! :)

stuart f

22-11-2006, 22:14

Hi all just a quick question, i have ordered a Tinde4 and i was wondering if anyone knows how many tent pegs i will need,i know that the tipi comes with metal pegs but i'm making wooden ones from hazel just for aesthetics.Any help much appreciated.

meanderer

23-11-2006, 12:10

Stuart f

I don't speak the lingo but I think it's 14 pegs on a Tinde 4.

Cheers

Jon

stuart f

23-11-2006, 15:33

Stuart f

I don't speak the lingo but I think it's 14 pegs on a Tinde 4.

Cheers

Jon

Cheers Jon, much appreciated.

meanderer

23-11-2006, 18:58

Information update!

We have a minor snag, but otherwise we're there!!!!

Bison have run out of stoves... The factory where they're made has moved and delivery is now scheduled for early February '07.

However, this doesn't effect the tent supply and the success of the group buy means that we are on TWO pallets for delivery to the UK anyway. I can either post separately or hang on to tents until stoves come in. Those in the South West or who know someone down here can collect in the Exeter-Plymouth area.

On the assumption that this isn't going to cause many people to have second thoughts, I'm going to close the offer today/tomorrow and really start organising payment and delivery.

You are all putting faith in me with your funds and at present I'm reckoning that I will do the postage out to everyone at my risk on the basis that we can have a sort out afterwards on the extra bits! Otherwise I have to try and calculate individual package weights based on manufacturers figures and guessing packaging weights!

Anyone ordering recently or in the next day or two will be included – life is particularly hectic at the moment so PM's have not always been responded to instantly!

So, keep your eyes on your inboxes and dust off your cheque books! I have to do a tad more spreadsheet work and then I'll be PM-ing any changes and an address.

Thank you all for your interest and support – I'd like to think that the workload will soon be easing but I've yet to package and resend this lot...

More later.

Jon

stuart f

23-11-2006, 19:09

Champion! thanks for the update Jon.

Mr_Rimps

23-11-2006, 19:32

yes, thanks for the update.
I can collect.

Andy

bilko

23-11-2006, 23:36

No problem mate, i'll just have to invest in a small firebox untill the stoves arrive as the stove was the clinch or at least the ability to have fire in your tent..
Have i got it right that the stoves are still on just comming at a later date?

Rob

24-11-2006, 07:08

Are you able to order them at the same time to secure the price? Or will it make no difference come Feb (I still want one anyway). :)

billycan

24-11-2006, 17:50

Will probably collect as well, on my way to see my girlfriend...

Cheers for the update

antwerpman

25-11-2006, 14:37

last year I bought the tentipi cp 9. I was in doubt between the 7 and the 9, but somebody who owned one told me to take the biggest size and I am glad I did so. If you buy the cp version even the smaller lavvu is only suitable for car or eventually canoe trips. I didn't buy an inner tent nor a groundsheet. In the wintertime I use a basha. the cotton polyester from Tentipi is waterproof and I suppose the Bison lavvu will also be. Cotton polyester will certainly be more comfortable than polyester and I would abolutely prefer it in combination with a tentstove. Camping in the snow with a tentstove is abolutely fantastic, you will love it

greetings

Bigman

26-11-2006, 10:37

Hi meanderer,

I'll come and collect from you.

If you need any help when the pallets arrive, just let me know and I will come over and give you a hand.

Neil

Squidders

27-11-2006, 17:06

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC_0092.jpg
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSC_0094.jpg

Huuuuuuuuuuge!!! :lmao:

bambodoggy

27-11-2006, 17:21

That looks wicked Joe! Nice one :D

Mr_Rimps

27-11-2006, 17:54

Squidders, you're just teasing us! (Looks great)

I'll be camping outside meanderers house waiting for them to arrive :D

Andy

Squidders

27-11-2006, 20:43

Don't forget, mine is the "16" and is 6m in diamiter... Maybe I should have opted for something a little smaller :lmao:

CLEM

27-11-2006, 21:01

Don't forget, mine is the "16" and is 6m in diamiter... Maybe I should have opted for something a little smaller :lmao:That looks the dogs clacker bag Squidders,I am proper envious mate!

Nigel

27-11-2006, 21:13

Don't forget, mine is the "16" and is 6m in diamiter... Maybe I should have opted for something a little smaller :lmao:

Hi Squidders,

Looks a nice bit of kit.
How many would this sleep comfortable? What’s the build quality like?

Cheers
Nigel

Squidders

27-11-2006, 21:22

Hi Nigel, mine would easily sleep 8 plus their gear... it's utter overkill.

Well, I took it down in a hurry because it was getting dark and I didn't want to leave any of it in the front garden over night but first impressions are very good. I'm quite impressed.

My thinking (before this thread) was that it's a local company in the north of Norway making tents for the local market... how bad can it be?!?

Nigel

27-11-2006, 21:35

Hi Squidders

From the photo it looks pretty good. Have you got the stove?
I had been looking at the moskoselkatan, but not that impressed with the price. It does look a much better deal.

Cheers
Nigel

Squidders

27-11-2006, 22:11

Yes, I have the stove also... it's very cute and chucks out LOADS of heat. nice little folding legs and all but 2 of the pipe sections fit inside the stove for transport... on the smaller models, the entire chimney may fit in side.

Regarding the tentipi ones... the top of the range canvas ones are... in a word... lovely.

These, I would say, match the lighter tentipi models for most functionality but I can't really draw a comparison with the quality as I simply don't know.

Bigman

28-11-2006, 08:27

Looks superb. :D

At least it gives me an idea of what the "8" will look like.

Squidders

05-12-2006, 23:43

You all got your tipis yet? I want to see some "action" shots!!!

meanderer

06-12-2006, 09:36

Too Much Kit To Carry

06-12-2006, 09:40

Sorry peeps...

Just ran out of time so have done nothing on this for over a week :(

Anyway, back now and should be getting payment details off in PMs tonight.

The delay on the stoves is a nuisance but I will withold payment until they're ready to ship the second pallet.

More later.

Jon

Hi Jon,

Do you think delivery of the Lavvus will be before Christmas? And are the stoves still expected for Feb. next year?

Sorry to be a pain but we had a trip planned for the New Year period :o

Thanks for all your efforts :You_Rock_

Cheers,

Phil.

Mr_Rimps

07-12-2006, 15:54

PM sent. Cheque on its way. Woohoo!

Too Much Kit To Carry

07-12-2006, 20:10

Meanderer,

Cheque is in the post -honest :lmao:

Should be with you in the morning.

Thanks for all you efforts once again :You_Rock_

Phil and the family Lavvu of Kent.

bilko

08-12-2006, 16:41

Cheque went in the post at lunchtime mate.

Bigman

08-12-2006, 17:30

Cheque will be in the post tomorrow.

:You_Rock_

stuart f

08-12-2006, 17:53

cheque away in the post thanks again :thanks:

billycan

12-12-2006, 22:06

Payment sent, cheers again

meanderer

13-12-2006, 10:11

Hi Folks

Cheques are rolling in so I hope to be able to order soon.

Revised prices were based on the 'confirmed' replies so please, check your inboxes and send off the revised amounts if you haven't already done so.

I'm sending PMs on receipt of cheques so you know when it arrives!

Cheers

Jon

Bigman

29-12-2006, 11:54

Any news on what is happening with this group buy?

meanderer

30-12-2006, 11:38

Hi Folks

Just a quick update on what's happening. I've paid the cheques in and just have to organise payment. There should be an invoice and payment details waiting at work but I've been laid up with a bad back for a few days - going to try and get in there now...

More news when I have it...

Cheers all

Jon

meanderer

02-01-2007, 16:30

Hi Peeps

Apart from having to do battle with my own bank to send what is effectively my own money abroad, we're winning!!

Invoice arrived today and payment for the first pallet - tents and groundsheets - was filed just now. Max 5 days on transfer so watch this space for further news!

Cheers

Jon

bilko

02-01-2007, 18:40

Thanks for the update Jon. :)

ggfh666

04-01-2007, 11:15

I've still not figured out what size I should take.
If some of you could post a pic of the inside with some people lying on the floor that would be great.
It may give me an idea on how big I should go.I'm still thinking about a Tundra 8 but 5 by 5 seems huge. But 1 size smaller could be too small.....

bilko

04-01-2007, 18:21

ggfh666

05-01-2007, 14:34

ai no (sic)

But I'll start a thread including other brands.
It can be helpful to see these things in use, rather than only read about them.

jamesoconnor

05-01-2007, 19:39

Woodsmoke over on Sotp has a thread about his new tinde 8 with pics. It gives you a good idea of how big it is. Its in the camping section.

Bigman

07-01-2007, 01:26

meanderer

09-01-2007, 10:47

Just heard that the first pallet (tents & groundsheets) is on it's way!!!

No ETA just yet as the carriers have to contact me first re duty and VAT.

Watch this space.

Jon

Mr_Rimps

09-01-2007, 18:22

Thats great news. Thanks for the updates Jon.

Too Much Kit To Carry

09-01-2007, 18:49

Thanks for the news :You_Rock_

Phil.

stuart f

09-01-2007, 21:40

Cheers for the update Jon :)

meanderer

17-01-2007, 17:09

They've arrived.... :lmao:

300kg pallet of tents and groundsheets - now counted and loaded (JUST!) into the back of the 110. Phew.

Earliest opportunity to further sort these is going to be Thursday evening so please be patient for a little longer....

For those who are coming in late, let me sort out how this one has gone before I promise anything. I will get round to PMs and posts after the bits are done.

Back with more news soon!

Cheers

Jon

Mooney

17-01-2007, 19:32

excellent!

:You_Rock_

Mr_Rimps

17-01-2007, 19:48

Great news!!! I'm off work this week and next...when can I collect! :D

stuart f

17-01-2007, 22:02

Nice one,thanks for the update :)

mojofilter

18-01-2007, 09:35

Wish I'd got one now. :(

meanderer

18-01-2007, 20:36

Too Much Kit To Carry

18-01-2007, 20:41

Hi Folks

A few of you mentioned collecting your tents and you guys should have PMs to that effect.

There a couple of you just having tents so I will get them sorted and sent.

Those that require a stove as well need to decide whether to pay more for carriage and have two deliveries or wait until Feb for the stoves. I'm OK either way as there isn't much extra work in sending two parcels.

More soon.

Cheers

Jon

Hi Jon,

Missed yesterdays post!

Great new that the tents have arrived :D

I'd be happy to take two deliveries as my son is sooooooo excited about getting the Lavvu.

Any rough idea when the stoves will be over in Feb??

Thanks for all your efforts and for keeping us posted :You_Rock_

Cheers,

Phil.

Mr_Rimps

19-01-2007, 16:22

I'm collecting my Luvva on Monday.

If anyone living in Hampshire would like me to collect theirs too, then pick up from me, I'm happy to do so.

I live in Fareham. PM me before 9pm -ish Sunday.

Cheers
Andy

MikeDB

19-01-2007, 21:24

Hi Jon,

Missed yesterdays post!

Great new that the tents have arrived :D

I'd be happy to take two deliveries as my son is sooooooo excited about getting the Lavvu.

Any rough idea when the stoves will be over in Feb??

Thanks for all your efforts and for keeping us posted :You_Rock_

Cheers,

Phil.

Yep, total agreement, soooo excited, coupled with the possibility of moving to Sweden I am as excited as a very big bag of excited things!

Mike

meanderer

20-01-2007, 21:05

Hi Folks

There's an SotP member collecting his Lavvu next weekend (27/28 Jan) and he's offered to take any others for collection from the Chessington area.

Delivery for a Tundra 8 & groundsheet is around £20 so see if this option makes sense on mileage.

Off to sort some more tents now.

Cheers

Jon

Mr_Rimps

22-01-2007, 17:37

Picked up my Luvva from Jon lunch time and now its up in the garden. Fantstic!

Thanks Jon. Looking forward to the arrival of the stove.

:You_Rock_

Andy

ggfh666

22-01-2007, 17:39

Pics, Mr Rimps, pics please.

Make us jealous....

Too Much Kit To Carry

22-01-2007, 18:34

Picked up my Luvva from Jon lunch time and now its up in the garden. Fantstic!

Thanks Jon. Looking forward to the arrival of the stove.

:You_Rock_

Andy

Get your camera out then Andy!!

Phil :D

meanderer

22-01-2007, 19:27

B :censored: y hell Andy...

That's quick!

I still haven't had a chance to unpack mine yet!!!!

Pics please.

Jon

Mr_Rimps

23-01-2007, 10:10

OK folks here they are.
Sorry to keep you waiting..had to wait for the sun to come up!

http://i11.tinypic.com/4bf51yf.jpg

The Luvva went up without any problems despite no instructions. There are three peg loops connected via a webbing strip
I pegged these out first and put in the pole. It stood up OK, despite a windy afternoon, then I went around the base and put the rest of the pegs in.

http://i3.tinypic.com/440jc53.jpg

He he he ha ha ha ....great!

http://i18.tinypic.com/2w582zq.jpg

Enough room for four and our kit with the added advantage that if the weather's not to good for sitting outside there's room to play inside.
I brought the ground sheet too its a quality pice of kit (not just a cheap tarp) as is the whole thing.

I'm thinking of making some adjustments to the groundsheet to enable it to be put in after the tents up. Also going to add some eyelets.

Now the weather is chilling up nicely I really need a stove ;)

Andy

MikeDB

23-01-2007, 11:29

Mine arrived this morning, fantastic!

A very happy me and an over excited small person had breakfast in the Lavvu, -2 and frosty but brilliant.

:D

Mike

Don Redondo

23-01-2007, 15:30

Bugger... now I'm really regretting pulling out of the group buy :(

Meander I don't suppose there's any spare room on the next pallet load is there? I'm sure there will be some gaps to fill ;)

ggfh666

23-01-2007, 16:16

thanks for the pics.

That's a 4 i take?

Too Much Kit To Carry

23-01-2007, 18:58

Collected our Tundra 8 this evening.

Can't wait to get it errected

This weekend I'll be mostly sleeping in the garden :D

Can't wait for the stove to come ;)

Phil.

MagiKelly

23-01-2007, 22:00

Mine arrived today. Just need to get a chance to erect it now.

Don Redondo

23-01-2007, 22:31

John are you coming down to the Lakes meet... and if so are you bringing your bison tipi?

bikething

23-01-2007, 22:56

lakes meet???

did i miss something ?? :confused:

MagiKelly

23-01-2007, 23:21

John are you coming down to the Lakes meet... and if so are you bringing your bison tipi?

Nope I don't think I will be going to the Lakes Meet. If I was I would bring the tipi for you to see. If I change my mind or anyone local is coming I can get them to bring it for you to look at.

Yes, Bikething you missed your canoe ;) It's a SotP meet.

Don Redondo

24-01-2007, 09:42

No that's fine John, maybe there will be another one there, otherwise I'm sure I can wait until the next Loch Lomond meet. Will there be a LL meet soonish?

MagiKelly

24-01-2007, 09:57

Will there be a LL meet soonish?

Might be. Need to look at dates. Keep an eye on SotP.

I better stop clogging up this thread with off topic comments now

stuart f

24-01-2007, 14:31

Mine arrived this afternoon cheers Jon :D

billycan

24-01-2007, 22:38

Got my tundra 4, Cheers Mr Rimps for collecting it, top man!! :You_Rock_

Whats the correct way to attach the guy lines to the tipi? What purpose do the lower webbing tabs with the two eyelets on the outside do/have?

Cheers all

Rob

25-01-2007, 07:51

Still looking forward to getting the stove - got a Tentipi that is crying out for it.

Fingers crossed we will get some more snow next month, then I can feel all authentic ;)

bilko

25-01-2007, 11:40

GOT IT!
Thanks Rob.
First impressions, Quality...quality, quality, quality and did i mention that this feels like a quality tent? :D
Well i just took the groundsheet out to the back garden and unravelled it, and kept unravelling it!. This thing is huge and could be mistaken as the group shelter at a meet.
have to wait till tommorrow to put up the lavvu as i'm off to work shortly.
Thing is it barely fits in my garden which isn't small.
Very pleased with the bag and compression straps that allow for bodged putaways :D as so often you have to wrestle getting a tent back in the bag.
Very impressed with the big galvanised pegs. Impressed with the quality guys that are almost identical to good paracord.
Had a close call as the boys said they didn't want to go camping this weekend because it was too cold but they changed their minds so i'll be out in it this weekend.
It's very heavy too, although light for it's size if you see what i mean. When i just unrolled the groundsheet i got a pang of guilt feeling that somehow i had ended up with a 16 man but judjing by the other pics i'm sure it's an 8. Those Danish blokes are pretty big you know ;)
Can't wait for the stove as it will realy make it. I'll let you know how we get on this weekend.

meanderer

27-01-2007, 11:42

Hi Folks

I've now heard from most of those I sent tents to so I'm assuming that the method is working OK. PMs will follow when the bill comes in at work for the carriage charges.

STOVES!!!!!

The news yesterday is that Bison expect to be able to ship stoves around the 12th of February. Given that, we can expect them the same week and I hope they will be quick and easy to turn round and ship onwards.

FURTHER SUPPLY

There were a few who missed out on the first buy and others who have seen all the news and are now interested. The upcoming stove pallet will allow a few extra orders to be taken and supplied at the same time. Let me know ASAP.

However, it is also simplicity itself to order direct. Price comparison depends whether HM Gov catch up with your import! :bandit: If they don't, a Tinde 8 (ripstop) & groundsheet is around £40 cheaper than the group buy (duty and VAT paid on import). If they do find you, it's £45 dearer than the group buy.

So, it's your choice. Vidar at Beaver Kanu/Bison Telt is very approachable and speaks very good English. He's also pretty good at replying promptly to emails, again in English.

Direct contact.

Vidar Falck-Muus

+47 9439 8444

vidar@beaver.no

www.beaver.no

Or send me a PM with what you would like and I can price it up for you for delivery in February with the stoves.

Thanks to you lot for being so supportive – this has not been all easy!

Cheers

Jon

ggfh666

27-01-2007, 12:58

I ordered directly from them and the next day it was in the mail.

Unfortunately it is now at Belgian customs:(

Hope I have it next week.

Mr_Rimps

27-01-2007, 17:06

Thanks for the update Jon.
I'll look out for a PM from you soon after the 12 Feb. If all's well I'll collect on the Saturday.

Again, many thanks
Andy

MikeDB

28-01-2007, 12:37

Please excuse my lack of photographic ability :C

A tad windy and our garden just isn't big enough for this so it was a quick pitch without the cap and flooring but with a very, very happy small person :D

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/MikeBuckley/DSC_0020.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/MikeBuckley/DSC_0037.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/MikeBuckley/DSC_0021.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/MikeBuckley/DSC_0029.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/MikeBuckley/DSC_0030-1.jpg

:D

Mike

Aliwren

28-01-2007, 12:59

Which tent is that MikeDB?

MikeDB

28-01-2007, 13:11

Which tent is that MikeDB?

Oops, it's the Tundra 8, very nice indeed

Mike

bilko

29-01-2007, 15:26

Took my tundra 8 out at the weekend with the boys.
They were very impressed as was i. Very easy to put up in a random fashion and then a few minutes alteration of pegs and guys. I didn't bother with the guys this time as there was no wind and it's pretty sturdy without them. The thing that bothered me was the tophat though.Why 8 or 9 seperate guys for it?, i think the thing to do in future is leave 3 undone and just tie them off to prevent the mammoth tangle i ended up with. Not a design fault but more over design if there is such a thing. The quarterizing webbing straps which lay on the floor could proove a nuisance when locating a fire or stove but a minor niggle compared with the overal quality to price ratio.

My biggest regret is getting one so big purely from a sitting point of view. I have a lenght of string now ( the same width as the lavvu ) that i use when choosing a site. However there are benefits for a small family with oodles of space.

My youngest got up in the night to answer the call of nature and on his return chose a superman style leap/flight into the center of the lavvu presumably for his own reasons :rolleyes: :) only to land on my sleeping head :eek: :p .
both kids have videoed the lavvu on their mobiles :rolleyes: to report back to their friends on what a cool dad they have. :p .

The 8 man makes an excellent base for a family or superb den for a fistfull of jollied up lifelong buddies, if i had the 4 size i could't imagine buying another tent again ...ever!

Squidders

29-01-2007, 15:36

you should try the 16 :lmao:

Mine was visible from space :o

meanderer

02-02-2007, 19:04

H Folks

I THINK I've PM'd everyone who was interested in further orders but if not - shout NOW!

Last orders will be early next week with payment required later next week.

I'll have limited connectivity over the weekend but will try and keep up to date.

Cheers

Jon

CLEM

02-02-2007, 22:31

Aliwren

05-02-2007, 19:06

Any more reviews??

ggfh666

06-02-2007, 16:01

I got mine finally.
Not due to Bison, but due to the Belgian customs/posts methods.

It is a Tundra 8.
I set it up on my own. Did need 2 tries as the pegs aren't suitable for my garden.
They get pulled out of the ground too easily. But my garden is loose marsh ground.

Not sure on how to put the top hat on tboh. I intended to pull it up using the ropes.
1 on each side around the tent using the conical shape to get it lifted towards tht top. That worked but I had not enough control to not pull it over the top. I used a stick instead then.

The tent is huge.
Can't take pics at the moment as it is raining ice over here. I will check on water/ice proofness now.

pics : http://users.pandora.be/ggfh666/Tent/01%20(Small).JPG
http://users.pandora.be/ggfh666/Tent/02%20(Small).JPG

bigger pics :http://users.pandora.be/ggfh666/Tent/

Too Much Kit To Carry

06-02-2007, 16:04

I got mine finally.
Not due to Bison, but due to the Belgian customs/posts methods.

It is a Tundra 8.
I set it up on my own. Did need 2 tries as the pegs aren't suitable for my garden.
They get pulled out of the ground too easily. But my garden is loose marsh ground.

Not sure on how to put the top hat on tboh. I intended to pull it up using the ropes.
1 on each side around the tent using the conical shape to get it lifted towards tht top. That worked but I had not enough control to not pull it over the top. I used a stick instead then.

The tent is huge.
Can't take pics at the moment as it is raining ice over here. I will check on water/ice proofness now.

I'd love to see some pictures of this Tundra 8 and a bit of a review as I have also go one that I've not had the time to set up yet :(

Phil.

meanderer

07-02-2007, 10:01

Hi Folks

I've just heard from Vidar at Bison that they should be collecting the stoves next week, so we are slipping a week or so from expectation.

They have asked me to pass on their apologies for the delay - the reason for the original lack of stock was a factory move where they get them made and it sounds like a laser cutter didn't survive the move!

I will, of course, keep you all posted.

Last Orders to run through this site will now continue until the weekend!

Cheers

Jon

ggfh666

07-02-2007, 10:32

Condensation.

Well the tent has been up during the night. It has been snowing, melting and freezing.
The tent was covered in ice.
I did not put the groundsheet in.
The pole is condensed. If you touch it you feel some wetness. And you can see a thin layer of humidity.
The fabric on the inside feels a little wet. But there is no dripping whatsoever.

If I were to camp in it right now, I would take a stove. Don't like getting up in the cold.

Rob

07-02-2007, 13:45

EdS

07-02-2007, 22:45

how much did the tipi and stoves come to? May be next time.

Aliwren

08-02-2007, 07:46

Could anyone please give an idea of total cost of aTundra 4 and groundsheet ordered direct from the company?

I am particulary interested in how much roughly ontop of the list price I should expect for shipping, duty etc etc. Unfortunately I havent the spare cash at the moment but having seen the reviews I hope to order later in the year.

Many thanks :)

meanderer

08-02-2007, 10:23

In no particular order, here are some answers....

The prices are on the website, subtract the 25% Norwegian VAT. I believe that shipping for one item from Norway is about 500NOK on top. 12NOK to 1GBP. IF they get you on import, duty is 12% for tents and VAT 17.5% on top of all of it. Basically adds 32% to the shipped price.

The group buy price for a Tundra 8 (5m diameter poly-cotton canvas), groundsheet and stove with flue is £503 in to the UK with around £25 for onward shipment.

I had an email yesterday from a Norwegian friend who was camping at the weekend in their Tinde 16 (polyester 6m, Squidders knows how huge these are...) with the new style stove. It was -20 overnight. They were taking jackets off in the tent and he says the new design is much better and more efficient than the previous version. If it's really cold, they run a fire-watch through the night to keep the fire going.

This guy is nothing to do with Beaver/Bison, just a tent user, which was how I found out about these tents last October (see Avatar) and literally, the rest is in this thread!

Have FUN

Jon

ggfh666

09-02-2007, 12:03

Experiences continued.

Well these are not yet camping experiences.

The tent has been up in the garden since I got it.

points of interest:

- the pole: you may need to put something underneath (woodblock, paving). It has sunk over 20 cm in the ground.
- the pegs: altough big and wide not suitable in my garden. I needed to saw my own wooden pegs to keep the tent put.
- yesterday was a day of snow (5cm), hail, and loads of rain. This morning the fabric was completely dry. Except where it touches the ground of course.
- I hung the tent to dry in my garage but of course this is not high enough. A²+B²=C², remember. C being what I need of height to hang it up.

andyn

12-02-2007, 12:24

- the pole: you may need to put something underneath (woodblock, paving). It has sunk over 20 cm in the ground.

FYI and just as a suggestion I have heard of people using the lid from a tabaco tin to solve this problem. :)

ggfh666

12-02-2007, 12:56

FYI and just as a suggestion I have heard of people using the lid from a tabaco tin to solve this problem. :)

Ok I will take up smoking;)

I will make a square board with a circle depression in the middle to put the pole in.

andyn

15-02-2007, 13:49

jamesoconnor

19-02-2007, 20:03

Any more news about the stoves yet?

meanderer

20-02-2007, 15:56

Yes! There IS more news.... :lmao:

Just heard that they are loading stoves onto a truck at the factory! I assume that they will be back home this week!

I have to sort out last details and pay this week so that they will ship ASAP. We should then have the kit with us next week.

This Group Buy is now closing – finally.... :beerchug:

If you want to join in, you can do so tonight, but you'll need to pay by electronic transfer online.

I will, of course, keep you all informed of progress and post an ETA as soon as I know.

Bison have again apologised for the delay and thanked us for our collective patience regarding the stoves.

More when I know it.

Cheers

Jon

Paw Print Paul

21-02-2007, 14:50

Thanks for update

meanderer

02-03-2007, 15:30

Just a quick update.

The second pallet should land at the dockside this weekend. I guess I'll have them by the middle of next week if all goes OK.

I will be shipping week commencing 12/3 once I've sorted stuff out, apparently there's a bit more sorting of flue sections and insulation pieces to be done.

IMPORTANT

I am advised that the FIRST lighting of the stoves should be done OUTSIDE.

The stove paint gives off some smelly gasses (I don't know about toxicity) the first time it gets hot.

I will put a note to this effect with each stove but this is an early warning!!

More soon.

Jon

Aliwren

02-03-2007, 16:42

Incase anyone else missed the group buy like myself - I spent too long looking at photos and deciding :rolleyes: I followed the advice and phoned Vidar @Bison.

Ordered a Tundra 4 and ground sheet last Friday and it arrived yesterday!!. Delivered via parcel force and no charges ontop (yet?? :confused: ) Vidar did say he was in discussions with a UK retailer but no further info at the moment.

I havent had a chance for a proper play yet but it looks huge!! Although I didnt make the group buy a big thanks for arranging this and all the info and reviews submitted which persuaded me to invest!!!

meanderer

08-03-2007, 13:03

AT LAST.........

They're HERE!!!!

Arrived yesterday but I didn't have time to do anything...

Unwrapped the six foot high pallet and had a peek earlier - there is one tent/stove guy who was desperate for this weekend so sorted that one out.

I'm going to get some boxes and take the whole lot home to sort over the weekend. Anyone who can collect (from Ashburton/Exeter, Devon), please get in touch. The remainder will be shipped out next week.

Keep your eyes peeled.

Jon

andyn

12-03-2007, 21:33

Mr_Rimps

19-03-2007, 18:14

Yay!!! Thanks Jon.

Just let me know when you need postage details and payment for shipping costs. Unless there is anyone from Hampshire that is picking theirs up and wouldn't mind transporting mine back too for a small fee?

Andy, I'm collecting my stove tomorrow. I'll pick yours up too. PM sent with my contact details.

Thanks for all your hard work on this Jon.

Cheers
Andy

Paw Print Paul

22-03-2007, 23:32

All arived yesterday. 3 big boxes, just need some time to open them.
Thank you so much.
Paul

Too Much Kit To Carry

23-03-2007, 08:55

Hi Jon,

Is there any update as to dispatch of the stoves please?

Best regards,

Phil.

AT LAST.........

They're HERE!!!!

Arrived yesterday but I didn't have time to do anything...

Unwrapped the six foot high pallet and had a peek earlier - there is one tent/stove guy who was desperate for this weekend so sorted that one out.

I'm going to get some boxes and take the whole lot home to sort over the weekend. Anyone who can collect (from Ashburton/Exeter, Devon), please get in touch. The remainder will be shipped out next week.

Keep your eyes peeled.

Jon

meanderer

23-03-2007, 09:17

Phil

The last 8 boxes are in the Landy to go out today, delivery Monday. That obviously includes yours....

I got to use my Lavvu AND stove weekend before last, just before I went down with the stomach bug and lost a week :(

Absolutely brilliant! Some bits were a bit mickey mouse but overall it did a grand job, even cooked breakfast on the stove!!

It warmed and dried the tent very quickly.

If anyone has any queries, please post them here or PM me.

Those with parcels on the way will get PM'd, I won't do you Phil as you now know the answer anyway!

Cheers

Jon

Too Much Kit To Carry

23-03-2007, 09:27

That's great news Jon - thanks very much :You_Rock_

Really looking forward to getting away with the family and getting some use for the Lavvu and stove.

Many thanks for all your efforts in this monster of a group buy. I'll be sure to get you a dram or three when I get to meet you.

Best regards,

Phil.

Phil

The last 8 boxes are in the Landy to go out today, delivery Monday. That obviously includes yours....

I got to use my Lavvu AND stove weekend before last, just before I went down with the stomach bug and lost a week :(

Absolutely brilliant! Some bits were a bit mickey mouse but overall it did a grand job, even cooked breakfast on the stove!!

It warmed and dried the tent very quickly.

If anyone has any queries, please post them here or PM me.

Those with parcels on the way will get PM'd, I won't do you Phil as you now know the answer anyway!

Cheers

Jon

bilko

24-03-2007, 15:23

Jon, do the straps at the top hold the chimney in place alright and does that enormous aluminium seperater fit through the straps?
Havn't had a chance to get mine up yet although iv'e been camping in the lavvu several times.
thanks so much for doing this gb Jon.
Send a pm for clarification on delivery .
:You_Rock_

MagiKelly

24-03-2007, 16:01

Got the stove yesterday and fired it up last night to burn off the new smell.

Today I had a lot to do in the garden and thought I would try the stove with my Tentipi. I have 6" nails drilled into my patio in just the right places for my Tentipi so I can set it up to dry and also for the girls to use as a summer house. Now with the stove it can be a winter house too.

The pictures

http://www.magikelly.co.uk/tipistove1.jpg

http://www.magikelly.co.uk/tipistove2.jpg

http://www.magikelly.co.uk/tipistove3.jpg

http://www.magikelly.co.uk/tipistove4.jpg

It was well toasty with the stove but it was a warm day anyway and I had all the vents and door open. The heat mask thing works well and the tent does not get any heat damage at all.

andyn

07-04-2007, 13:03

Thanks Jon ofr organsing this and to Mr_Rimps for collecting my lavvu and stove for me. :You_Rock_

Ended up going down to Dartmoor this week with the missus and took hte tipi and stove with us.

Other than being sold some dreadful "seasoned" (read part seasoned, still green in the middle and some that were so damp had mould growing on them :( ) logs that wouldn't burn so ended up mainly using kindling in the stove. We were really impressed by the stove and tipi though. We even had a couple of people who were doing their DofE come over and ask about it. The farm's dog liked it in there too :lmao:

Temperatures were pretty low over night and Helen who normally complains of the cold in the summer stayed warm all night long <Shock Horror> :eek:

Anyway heres a couple of pics:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/170/447308443_9248a3d13e_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/171/447308449_0670fde63b.jpg

paulcd

08-04-2007, 22:52

Mr_Rimps

10-04-2007, 01:25

A bit of advice please...have a lavvu 8.+ stove Should I 'break' the poles to bring down the apex so that I can then put in the flue/chimney, and add sections as I then re-raise the pole?
Cheers, Jon, a good effort!

I set up my luvva (all pegged out) and then installed the stove. Put the chimney together poke it through the top (making sure the heat guard is touching the luvva and not the chimney) and then attach to the stove. You might have to move the stove to ensure the chimney is straight and take care with the spark guard the edges are sharp.

Andyn, mines a pint of ale ;)

paulcd

12-04-2007, 20:48

Thanks Mr Rimps
We did have a go of something similar yesterday...great to see it in all its glory, but the weather is so nice, I have yet to 'pump up the volume'

godfather

18-03-2008, 13:07

Mr Rimps,

what size tundra do you have?

littlebiglane

18-03-2008, 18:23

edit: [I've been a bit of a doughnut again :o :o :o - this is an old, old thread. Sorry. I really should read the date on these things - I still would like to understand how different they are in quality compared to the price]

Wow. This seems a huge price difference from the Tentipi. As a Tentipi owner I wonder how they can justify the premium - not having compared like-with-like. The same tipi + floor + stove would set you back three times as much for a Tentipi. I must admit I am tempted to buy even though I have no need for one!

I would like to know what the difference in quality is though. I know that a CP Varrie has material made out of 250 gms/m2 compared to 185gms/m2 for the Tundra. The skirting around the outside is 130gms/m2 for the Tentipi Varrie compared to ? (look a bit lighter though) for the Tundra.

Even though. It seems great value. Has anyone done a head-to-head comparison?

LBL

Mr_Rimps

18-03-2008, 21:56

Mr Rimps,

what size tundra do you have?

Its a Tundra 4 (4m diameter) !

godfather

18-03-2008, 23:21

Mr_Rimps,

thanks for the info. Sorry to have resurrected an old post!!:o

spamel

31-08-2008, 11:45

I'm gonna ressurect this one, as I'm interested in moving up tipi size wise. Currently, I'm in a Hex 3 when I tent camp. In comparison to these beasts, it looks like a kids play tent and leaves me feeling a bit inferior! :rolleyes:

Was there ever gonna be a chance of another GB on these, it's been quite a while since this one ran and more people have joined the forums since. Is it feasible or is there a place where Bison tents are now available in the UK?

Aliwren

31-08-2008, 18:55

There are now two uk importers who are:

http://www.pointbarwilderness.co.uk/index.htm - though web site says its closed and:

http://www.madbearoutdoors.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=tinde

I bought direct from Vidar at Bison and all went smoothly :)

spamel

31-08-2008, 19:25

My tipi fund stands at 250 notes, another trip to the scrap yard with some more scrap from the van this week will hopefully boost that up. I'm gonna fund this straight from that source and maybe some kit sales, so keep your eyes peeled! :D Apart from that, I supose I better decide on a 4 or 8 and where to purchase from!

Squidders

31-08-2008, 22:18

Buy my tentipi vagge 7 spam ;)

bikething

31-08-2008, 22:32

Buy my tentipi vagge 7 spam ;)

... then sell me your Hex-3 :D

spamel

06-09-2008, 19:47

Buy my tentipi vagge 7 spam ;)

Too big! I've decided on the Bison Tundra 4, I'm five quid off getting the tent, need to save for the stove now! Another 70 notes went into the fund today, lead, copper and brass prices are doing quite well at the moment! :D

... then sell me your Hex-3 :D

Gonna hang on to it for "lightweight" back packing, an oxy moron in itself when you consider the amount of kit I take! :D