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Martyn
01-11-2006, 11:35
Post your 3 day menu's....

I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread with lists of people choices for menus, together with packing totals. So see if you can come up with one, or post your if you already have one...

I'll start...

Full substantial menu for 3 days, including condiments and sundries.

This menu is something I've knocked together to help me plan what food I need to take with me on camping trips. You can chop & change or just multiply it according to your taste and duration of your trip, though for longer camping trips, some perishables would need to be replaced with other things. The menu is for 3 full days and 2 nights. This assumes you arrive at your location before 6am on the first day and leave late on the 3rd day. If your travel time eats into the day, then you can adjust the menu accordingly, replacing meals with trail snack and coffee with water. Or, you can extend the menu for 3 full days and 4 nights by adding a very few extra's.

It's not a menu for through hiking or ultralight backpacking, but more for backwoods camping trips. The kind of trips where there are no pressures on time, where you have the options to brew up often, cook easily on an open fire or stove and have a good supply of water. I like to eat and drink well. :)

Cooking equipment: One 12cm zebra billy plus British army mess tins, knife, fork, spoon and a mug or cup. An open campfire is preferred, but a stove will be fine.

Day 1:

6am:
1 cup of coffee

7am:
1 cup of coffee
1 Oat so Simple & maple syrup (or jam)

10am:
1 cup of coffee
1 pitta bread, melted cheese & bacon sandwich

1pm:
1 cup of coffee
1 savory rice & salami chunks
1 pitta bread & butter

5pm:
1 packet of chicken curry, plain rice & salt
1 pitta bread, peanut butter & maple syrup (or jam)
1 cup of coffee

7pm:
1 cup of coffee

9pm:
1 cup of instant soup

11pm:
1 cup of malted milk

3am:
1 cup of malted milk

Day 2:

6am:
1 cup of coffee

7am:
1 cup of coffee
1 Oat so Simple & maple syrup (or jam)

10am:
1 cup of coffee
1 pitta bread, melted cheese & bacon sandwich

1pm:
1 cup of coffee
1 savory rice & salami chunks
1 pitta bread & butter

5pm:
3 fresh pork sausages, instant mash, instant gravy, salt & pepper.
1 pitta bread, peanut butter & maple syrup (or jam)
1 cup of coffee

7pm:
1 cup of coffee

9pm:
1 cup of instant soup

11pm:
1 cup of malted milk

3am:
1 cup of malted milk

Day 3:

6am:
1 cup of coffee

7am:
1 cup of coffee
1 Oat so Simple & maple syrup (or jam)

10am:
1 cup of coffee
1 pitta bread, melted cheese & bacon sandwich

1pm:
1 cup of coffee
1 savory rice & salami chunks
1 pitta bread & butter

5pm:
1 packet of chilli-con-carne, plain rice & salt
1 pitta bread, peanut butter & maple syrup (or jam)
1 cup of coffee

7pm:
1 cup of coffee

9pm:
1 cup of instant soup

11pm:
1 cup of malted milk

3am:
1 cup of malted milk

Totals:
20x heaped spoons coffee
40x heaped spoons of coffee mate
3x Oat so Simple
9x pitta bread
1x block of cheese (enough for 6 good slices - or tube of primula)
3x full rashers of bacon
1x chunk of salami
3x pkts savory rice (or instant noodles)
3x fresh pork sausages
1x instant mash (enough for 1 meal)
1x instant gravy (enough for 1 meal)
1x pkt chicken curry
1x pkt chilli-con-carne
2x plain rice (enough for 2 meals)
3x cup-a-soup
6x malted milk
1x tube of butter (Olivio works for me)
1x tube of peanut butter
1x tube of maple syrup (or jam if preferred)
1x bag salt
1x bag pepper

Sundries:
1x bag chilli flakes
1x beef stock cube
1x chicken stock cube
1x bag of mixed spices

This err's on the side of the greedy, you could easily leave out the melted cheese and bacon sandwich, which would save you 3x pitta breads, the lump of cheese and the 3 rashers of bacon for example. You could leave out the peanut butter, jam, salami, malted milk and the cup-a-soups with minimal effect and still have a decent menu.

Whatever. :)

moduser
01-11-2006, 12:10
Wow martyn that is a very detailed menu plan.

Mine goes something like this - this is assuming I'm walking and have to watch the weight. If I'm in a fixed camp site menu is as varied as possible and always fresh ingedients.

Breakfasts
In portion bags - Oats, milk powder & sultana's -just add water & honey

Lunch
Often bits from a ration pack, biscuits brown & pate
Cheese and digestives
Fruit - dried or fresh

Dinner
Rice, fresh or dried veg, seasoning - I carry a mixure of herbs and spices and a small bottle of olive oil always.
Salami or tin of makeral/sardines if I fancy some meat
This is my staple. I'll alter the seasoning to give me taste variety

Snacks
Jordans special Museli bars, dried fruit (partial to figs) and nuts/seed mix (sometimes added to the dinner pot for added texture)
Biscuits fruit
Chocolate - weather permitting

Supper
Waitrose Tomato & Basil SOUP (not making that mistake again Pete :D)

Beverages
Lyons Coffee bags, dried milk & honey
(I always have a bottle of squeezee honey in my pack :)
Tea bags - a selection of herbal and normal - taken black with a drop of honey

It may not sound like much but it's filling and meets my needs of carbs/protein/fats reasonably well.

david

stovie
01-11-2006, 12:23
Difficult one this, as I don't have a set menu. And if we are talking fixed camp I like to cook from scratch...so rabbit and pigeon is often on the menu (as are other meats), veggies are cooked from fresh and I enjoy experimenting with making breads. So the menu will always be varied depending on my mood and ingredients.

Fresh coffee is probably the only constant (now that the smokes have gone :( :rant: :rant: :rant: )

A sweet bannock with honey for afters :p

Martyn
01-11-2006, 12:26
Wow martyn that is a very detailed menu plan.
It is a bit OTT isnt it, but I think it helps with working out your quantities.

I can trim it down to...

3x oat so simple
3x instant noodles
3x curry/chillie
3x rice
1x bag of instant coffee
1x bag of coffee mate
salt, pepper & spices.

I can live off it, but it's a grim diet. :D

Martyn
01-11-2006, 12:30
Fresh coffee is probably the only constant (now that the smokes have gone :( :rant: :rant: :rant: )



Good luck with the tabs. I managed 3 months earler this year but I'm back to square one. :(

What kind of coffee do you use? Bags?

torjusg
01-11-2006, 12:35
Difficult one this, as I don't have a set menu. And if we are talking fixed camp I like to cook from scratch...so rabbit and pigeon is often on the menu (as are other meats), veggies are cooked from fresh and I enjoy experimenting with making breads. So the menu will always be varied depending on my mood and ingredients.

Fresh coffee is probably the only constant (now that the smokes have gone :( :rant: :rant: :rant: )

A sweet bannock with honey for afters :p

If you go around obsessing about your smoke you will soon start again. You should be happy to get rid of that filthy, stinking stuff.

Anyway, back to food. I usually bring too little food (a very bad habit indeed). And usually very boring food. Usually it is one big piece of meat per day + rice.

andyn
01-11-2006, 12:46
Martyn, How on earth do you survive till day 3 with only 3 hours sleep each night!!!!! :eek: :notworthy

spamel
01-11-2006, 12:54
I have a cereal mix for breakfast, weetabix are normally in there and some raisins for sure. I pre pack them in ziplock bags as otherwise I'd eat the lot day 1!! I brew up quite a bit, but I use the small folding cup now as I find it better to just have small hot drinks whilst I'm out otherwise I spend the rest of the time peeing!! I use condensed milk in a carton as I can't get the brand of milk powder that I used in Britain which seemed to be the only stuff I could use without it going lumpy!

Midday meal is usually something simple and quick, maybe rice but I think I am eating rice a bit too much on my trips so Ineed to reconsider this. I could go for pasta. I get cartoned beans so that the pack can be burnt or if I am stovie cooking it weighs little so I can carry it out. I don't like to leave any rubbish at all, especially a I have a few places where nobody else goes so why spoil them?

My wife gets me pork belly from the shop which I take and cube up when I get out on the ground. I use this in stews and the like and it is a bit fatty so you sleep really warm. I take rice from the Uncle Ben range, it is heavier as it is quick cook rice and therefore not dry weight. It comes in various flavours so there is variety. I also take a sommer wurst salami which is sliced and spitted or cubed and chucked in the pot. Oxo goes in to the pot to boil the pork with some home dried onion and then the excess water is drained off before adding rice to the meal. The drained off stock is used as a filling and tasty soup with pitta which seems to be a good durable bread for the pack.

At present I am supplementing my meals with funghi growing in the area, last trip I went on at the weekend saw myself and Jamie picking parasols, Boletes and puffballs. I had only ever eaten Boletes before and I think the same for Jamie so it was interesting to try them out. When they were added before draining off the stock, the resulting soup was absolutely fantastic!!

Add some choccy bars, they are always a good boost for morale and energy.

At the moment I am trying to decide whether to eat two times a day with a massive meal or three smaller meals with snacks and brews thrown in in either case. We don't tend to roam around too far though, last trip I think we used about a square kilometre, but the good thing was we never saw another person in four days! Bliss :D

Martyn
01-11-2006, 13:21
Martyn, How on earth do you survive till day 3 with only 3 hours sleep each night!!!!! :eek: :notworthy

The 3am drink is for when I wake up in the middle of the night dude. Often happens - in fact usually. Sometimes I sleep through, but I budget my brews for one in the middle of the night.

andyn
01-11-2006, 13:28
The 3am drink is for when I wake up in the middle of the night dude. Often happens - in fact usually. Sometimes I sleep through, but I budget my brews for one in the middle of the night.

Oh , Im not as impressed anymore. ;)

stovie
01-11-2006, 13:38
Good luck with the tabs. I managed 3 months earler this year but I'm back to square one. :(

What kind of coffee do you use? Bags?

Wash your mouth out young man! A fine arabica in the trusty pot (see below)
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a252/stovie/roastrabbitcopy.jpg

But i have been known to roast and grind dandelion roots and acorns....but only out of curiosity :D

To be honest, as far as the smoking goes, I'm doing okay....one day at a time.

Martyn
01-11-2006, 13:39
Oh , Im not as impressed anymore. ;)

The other thing is, I cant remember the last time I actually went out for 3 full days, ...it was definitely a long time ago.

Chance
01-11-2006, 13:46
For the lightweight trekking part, a cornish pastie: a fully-balanced meal in every bite; with edible packaging. And pork scratchings, replacing those important salts, fats and additives that you sweat out during the day.
(you'd probably want to take some other stuff as well, but you'll have forgotten them by the end of the trip)

Martyn
01-11-2006, 13:47
Wash your mouth out young man! A fine arabica in the trusty pot (see below)
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a252/stovie/roastrabbitcopy.jpg

But i have been known to roast and grind dandelion roots and acorns....but only out of curiosity :D

To be honest, as far as the smoking goes, I'm doing okay....one day at a time.

Aha, looks fantastic. Bit of a weight penalty though I would think?

Martyn
01-11-2006, 13:51
My wife gets me pork belly from the shop which I take and cube up when I get out on the ground. I use this in stews and the like and it is a bit fatty so you sleep really warm. I take rice from the Uncle Ben range, it is heavier as it is quick cook rice and therefore not dry weight. It comes in various flavours so there is variety. I also take a sommer wurst salami which is sliced and spitted or cubed and chucked in the pot. Oxo goes in to the pot to boil the pork with some home dried onion and then the excess water is drained off before adding rice to the meal. The drained off stock is used as a filling and tasty soup with pitta which seems to be a good durable bread for the pack.



Love the sound of that (apart from the UB rice, I dont like the stuff). I'd not thought about belly pork.

spamel
01-11-2006, 13:57
I had to scoot off and make some food after posting that, it made me really hungry!!

Feygan
01-11-2006, 19:06
Martyn thats a whole lot of coffee :confused: I hope you increasing your water intake to counteract the dehydrating effects of it??? Personally Id be needing an addition 2-3 litres of water just to stay upright on that much.

dommyracer
01-11-2006, 19:37
I was thinking the same. Strictly Rooibos for moi.

Martyn
01-11-2006, 20:00
Martyn thats a whole lot of coffee :confused: I hope you increasing your water intake to counteract the dehydrating effects of it??? Personally Id be needing an addition 2-3 litres of water just to stay upright on that much.

Yeah, but I'm addicted to the stuff and have kind of adjusted over the years.

stovie
01-11-2006, 20:07
I was thinking the same. Strictly Rooibos for moi.

Ooooo errrrr! La di da!!!

Makes good tinder though :morpheus:

Martyn
01-11-2006, 20:13
Ooooo errrrr! La di da!!!



I bet he only sleeps under the better class of lean-to's! :D

stovie
01-11-2006, 20:17
I bet he only sleeps under the better class of lean-to's! :D

A 57 patten silk basha ;) Delicate skin and all that :D

Tadpole
01-11-2006, 20:35
Martyn thats a whole lot of coffee :confused: I hope you increasing your water intake to counteract the dehydrating effects of it??? Personally Id be needing an addition 2-3 litres of water just to stay upright on that much.
:rolleyes:
Coffee is only mildly diuretic; anything that you drink is a diuretic, (all diuretic means it something that makes you want to urinate). So water in and of itself is a diuretic. :p
Coffee consumed during the average day can make a positive contribution to the two litres of fluids that the human body needs everyday. A fact supported by the British Nutrition Foundation which confirms simple fact this by stating that you do not need to drink more water to compensate for consuming caffeinated drinks. Mind you they recommend only drinking 4 or 5 8oz cups per day. :eek:

Iím sure that all the bad press for coffee comes from the rabid anti coffee lobbies (weak tea drinkers) who put about the ďcoffee is bad for youĒ malarkey, ;) claiming that tea is better and more refreshing, as it has only 60 milligrams of caffeine per 8oz cup, where as coffee has 100 to 140 milligrams per 8oz cup. :sulkoff:

Feygan
01-11-2006, 20:48
Ah my bad then I didnt realise they had changed their standpoint, last I knew It was tea that contributed to your daily fluids, and coffee took away from it. They could all do with making up their minds though.:)

spamel
01-11-2006, 21:00
Both tea and coffee in moderation is good for you, but beer is better!! :p

:D

Angus Og
01-11-2006, 21:08
Both tea and coffee in moderation is good for you, but beer is better!! :p

:D

Yep I agree with you. :eek: :D

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4726/img0090qt1.jpg

Oh I also take a Mars bar and a packet of crisps or two. :)

EdS
01-11-2006, 21:11
what ever there is in the cupboard plus the hipflask (or 2) of sloe gin.

Tadpole
01-11-2006, 21:16
My three day menu

Breakfast (normally I am at home so it would be coffee and toast. I hardly ever set of before 10am
Lunch
Some form of a baguette, homemade with maybe chicken salad, or tuna and mustard
coffee
Evening meal
Something quick, normally Iíd make something at home and deepfreeze it. By the time I got to camp and have set up, the meal (be it stew or lobby even a casserole) would have defrosted, ready to be reheated on the campfire. Eaten with thick slices of homemade granary bread
Coffee black and strong (I donít drink milk as it is incredible bad for you)
Supper
Oats with water sugar and fruit
Beer or whisky
Midnight snack
Anything that is to hand, like fruit or toast

Breakfast
Bannock (or damper)
Bacon, scrambled eggs
Coffee
Midmorning snack
Fruit (either dried or fresh)
Lunch
Bacon, poached eggs, fruit
Coffee
Evening meal
Corned beef hash, peas carrots mashed potato.
Damper with fruit
Whisky
Midnight snack
Cold damper with butter.
coffee

Breakfast
Oats with fruit
coffee
Midmorning snack
Crackers with primular cheese
Lunch
Salami on pita bread.
Handful of fruit, (dried)
Coffee
Evening meal
Baked potato with curry beans topped with spreading cheese
Baked apple
Coffee
Midnight snack
Beef jerky
Coffee

Breakfast
What ever is left (Iíve eaten curried beans and fruit flapjacks before now)
Coffee

My midmorning snack is normally purchased from a garage on the way home.

wingstoo
01-11-2006, 22:57
To make my choices easy I go for "A" "C" "B"
British military nutritionists have done it all for me so much easier than having to think about it.lol

LS

rich59
02-11-2006, 00:15
3 day menu? Well I worked out a plan for this for bushcraft meets this year that suits me so far.


Breakfast - Muesli mixed with dried milk , pre mixed - just add water. Water to drink.

Lunch - Bannock - 3 parts flour, 2 parts milk powder, - pre mixed + 1 part found food. Water to drink.

Dinner - Day 1 - Millet dish
- Day 2 - Rice dish
- Day 3 - Pasta dish

Each one will have a variety of vegetables and a protein such as cheeze, sausage etc. Water to drink.


Snacks - a packet of buiscits, a slab of fruit cake. Some fruit.

A touch of spirits for sharing.

That's it really. It is based on needing to keep it small volume so I can get it in my rucksack, an easy breakfast so I don't have to worry about a fire if it is difficult, and keeping my options open for food that might turn up. I don't drink much tea and coffee anyway.

rik_uk3
02-11-2006, 00:17
My three day menu

Breakfast (normally I am at home so it would be coffee and toast. I hardly ever set of before 10am
Lunch
Some form of a baguette, homemade with maybe chicken salad, or tuna and mustard
coffee
Evening meal
Something quick, normally Iíd make something at home and deepfreeze it. By the time I got to camp and have set up, the meal (be it stew or lobby even a casserole) would have defrosted, ready to be reheated on the campfire. Eaten with thick slices of homemade granary bread
Coffee black and strong (I donít drink milk as it is incredible bad for you)
Supper
Oats with water sugar and fruit
Beer or whisky
Midnight snack
Anything that is to hand, like fruit or toast

Breakfast
Bannock (or damper)
Bacon, scrambled eggs
Coffee
Midmorning snack
Fruit (either dried or fresh)
Lunch
Bacon, poached eggs, fruit
Coffee
Evening meal
Corned beef hash, peas carrots mashed potato.
Damper with fruit
Whisky
Midnight snack
Cold damper with butter.
coffee

Breakfast
Oats with fruit
coffee
Midmorning snack
Crackers with primular cheese
Lunch
Salami on pita bread.
Handful of fruit, (dried)
Coffee
Evening meal
Baked potato with curry beans topped with spreading cheese
Baked apple
Coffee
Midnight snack
Beef jerky
Coffee

Breakfast
What ever is left (Iíve eaten curried beans and fruit flapjacks before now)
Coffee

My midmorning snack is normally purchased from a garage on the way home.

Tadpole, how is milk so bad for you?

Martyn
02-11-2006, 03:38
To make my choices easy I go for "A" "C" "B"
British military nutritionists have done it all for me so much easier than having to think about it.lol

LS

Hey if it's nutritional efficiency you're after, check out nutrison satndard (http://www.nutriciame-clinicalnutrition.com/tubefdis.htm) ...one litre per day is all you need to meet your full nutritional requirements. Three bags for three days, what could be simpler? Of course the stuff tastes like bile, so you'd need a nasogastric tube to bypass your mouth and get it into your gut, but hey so do rat packs... :lmao:

rik_uk3
02-11-2006, 12:04
I'd go for the Nutrison Multi fiber, does not give the squits so much :eek:

pierre girard
02-11-2006, 12:24
Day 1

Breakfast: flapjacks, maple sugar, coffee

Lunch: jerk, hard tack, raisins, water

Supper: bannock, stew (jerk, carrots, potatoes, onions - all dried) and coffee

Day 2

Breakfast: steel cut oats, raisins, maple sugar, coffee

Lunch same as day 1

Supper: wild rice, jerk, and onion hotdish, bannock, and coffee

Day 3

Breakfast: Wild rice, maple sugar, raisins, and coffee

Lunch: same as Day 1

Supper: rubbaboo (peas, onions, bacon, one clove), bannock, and coffee

JFW
02-11-2006, 14:33
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4726/img0090qt1.jpg

Oh I also take a Mars bar and a packet of crisps or two. :)


Yes, but what do you drink for the other two days? :D

Cheers

JFW

Angus Og
02-11-2006, 17:40
Yes, but what do you drink for the other two days? :D

Cheers

JFW
Water and try and recover. :D
But not bad for £25. 120 bottles of beer 500ml a bottle. :D

rik_uk3
05-11-2006, 18:57
Three day menu

Friday night
Army boil in bag main meal and dessert
Or can of tuna and 5 minute rice / instant custard and apple flakes
Biscuits
Tea

Supper

Tea or hot chocolate and biscuits

Saturday

Breakfast
Instant oats
Boil in bag dried egg omelette and chopped spam
Tea
Biscuits and jam

Lunch
2 cup a soups or 1 mug a soup (type with pasta in)
pepperami or salami
pitta bread
primula cheese spread
fresh onion or tomato if available
tea

Dinner

Home made corned beef stew, now with dried veg, smash/rice/pasta (take your pick), pitta bread
Apple flakes with instant custard and crushed digestive biscuits
Tea

Supper

Tea or hot chocolate and biscuits

Sunday breakfast

Instant oats
Fried spam and beans or boil in the bag beans/sausage
Tea
Biscuits and jam

Lunch

Same as Saturday

On top of this I take chocolate bars/boiled sweets, extra cup/mug a soups biscuits and alcohol of some sort. As this is a backpacking menu, the booze would be something like brandy in the winter (goes well with tea) or Jack Daniels in the summer, nice on its own or with water. For backpacking I use instant white tea and sugar I mix at home and carry in a zip lock bag. I canít drink instant coffee. I make good bannock bread, but wonít bother for a weekend unless there are a few of us

For car camping etc, I would use a lot more fresh fruit, bacon, meat etc, plus fresh coffee and of course Stella Artois

Having typed all this, I still like the ease of the 24 hour ration pack, and as I have around 30 at home, Iíd better start to use them up :rolleyes:

Ogden
08-11-2006, 04:12
For me there is actually no difference between 3 days and 3 weeks:
Two meals:
1. freshly grained oats, milkpowder, honey, more honey, a little cardammom and
cinnamom...
2. rice, red lentils, dry Impala meat, fat, vegetable dry paste (good one), salt

I choose between sweet and salty - what the body needs.

And in between: nuts, dry fruits, dry Impala meat, tea, water