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Martyn
20-10-2006, 10:09
Following on from the survival kit thread (http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=16076), I thought I would share the contents of my survival tin. This tin forms part of my "macro" kit, ...that is a pouch sized kit.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i273/Martyn_s30v/pics/sk002.jpg

It's based around a ritter pocket survival kit and a BCB mini mess kit.

The BCB mini mess tin...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i273/Martyn_s30v/sk/sk002.jpg

Well packed with instructions on the top...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i273/Martyn_s30v/sk/sk003.jpg

Under the instructions...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i273/Martyn_s30v/sk/sk004.jpg

the full contents...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i273/Martyn_s30v/sk/sk005.jpg

Mess tin with handle, large zip lock bag to storte contents and foil sheet for a windbreak or utensil oraigami...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i273/Martyn_s30v/sk/sk013.jpg

tampon, fabric plaster and steri strips...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i273/Martyn_s30v/sk/sk012.jpg

Small roll of duct tape, one handed firestarter, tinder bundles, jet scream whistle, nylon line and mini chemical light stick...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i273/Martyn_s30v/sk/sk011.jpg

Waterproof paper, pencil, fresnel lens and survival instructions...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i273/Martyn_s30v/sk/sk010.jpg

Red photon, white photon, signal mirror, mini compass, tin opener, mini multi-tool and scalpel blade...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i273/Martyn_s30v/sk/sk009.jpg

Fishing weights, spinners and clips, safety pins, fishing hooks and split-shot, brass wire, steel wire, spool of thread and nylon line...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i273/Martyn_s30v/sk/sk008.jpg

Drinking straw, salt, condom, aquatabs, stock cube, and vial of blended spices...
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i273/Martyn_s30v/sk/sk007.jpg

Mess tin handle, made from a coathanger...
http://www.britishblades.com/pics/bcb/DSCN0137.jpg

In use, the handle replaces on of the roller clamps to function like the handle on a british army mess kit. As you can see, the result is a nice fit on an esbit stove but could be used on an open fire...
http://www.britishblades.com/pics/bcb/DSCN0160.jpg

The handle packs away inside the BCB tin...
http://www.britishblades.com/pics/bcb/DSCN0153.jpg

Full list:
BCB mini mess tin
Coathanger handle
Survival instructions
Large zip lock bag
Large foil sheet x2
Tampon
Fabric plaster
Steri strips
Small roll of duct tape
One handed firestarter
Tinder bundles x4 in ziplock bag
Jet scream whistle
Nylon fishing line
Mini chemical light stick
Waterproof paper
Pencil
Fresnel lens
Red photon
White photon
Rescue Flash signal mirror
Mini silva button compass
Army tin opener
Mini multi-tool
Scalpel blade
Fishing weights
Spinners and clips
Safety pins
Sewing needle
Fishing hooks - various
Split-shot
Brass snare wire
Steel wire
Spool of sewing thread
Braided nylon line
Drinking straw
Salt x2
Condom
Aquatabs
Beef stock cube
Vial of blended spices

:)

moduser
20-10-2006, 10:25
Nice one Martyn,

Have you used this either in anger or as a evaluation test?

I've heard good things about the Ritter kits and I'm interested in durability etc.

Thanks

david

Cap'n Badger
20-10-2006, 10:27
Nice kit bro.....likes the tin espesh........how much does it retail fer?...

g4ghb
20-10-2006, 10:32
I like it! - is amazing what you can fit in a small space if you pack it well! (perhaps I should get swmbo to pack mine though - she always seems to get twice as much as me in a suitcase!!!)


btw - is that foam on the inside of the lid?

Martyn
20-10-2006, 10:38
Nice one Martyn,

Have you used this either in anger or as a evaluation test?

I've heard good things about the Ritter kits and I'm interested in durability etc.

Thanks

david

Not either, the kit is virgin - I suppose that's how I want it to stay, though I would like to know how it all performs for real. I've used the tin (or rather another the same as this) and it works very well as a cooker.

I can say definitely that the contents of the basic ritter kit are very high quality, tough and durable - that much is clear to me without testing it. :)

Martyn
20-10-2006, 10:40
Nice kit bro.....likes the tin espesh........how much does it retail fer?...

I got a couple of ebay, I think they go for somewhere between £7 to £12 each depending on how lucky you are with the bidding. I know Andrew at outdoorcode sells em.

Full to capacity, it holds 250 mls or just over 8 fl/oz, you can comfortably boil 1 decent cup of water in it.

It's just a tad larger than a tobacco tin...

http://www.britishblades.com/pics/bcb/DSCN0147.jpg

Martyn
20-10-2006, 10:42
btw - is that foam on the inside of the lid?

No, it's a silicon-rubber gasket which makes the tin airtight when the roller clamps are clamped over the ends. The little tab you see on the gasket is to lift it out of the lid with, to leave you with a small eating plate.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i273/Martyn_s30v/sk/sk003.jpg

g4ghb
20-10-2006, 11:10
cool - that makes sence - now I know what i'm looking at I can see a 'white' gasket rather than 'black' foam ;)


Hmmmm is it 2 faces or a candlestick!? :lmao:

Martyn
20-10-2006, 11:18
cool - that makes sence - now I know what i'm looking at I can see a 'white' gasket rather than 'black' foam ;)


Hmmmm is it 2 faces or a candlestick!? :lmao:Ahhhh, I see what you were seeing. :D

lou1661
20-10-2006, 11:28
here is one evilbay link (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MINI-MESS-TIN-ULTIMATE-SURVIVAL-KIT-SAS-COOKING-FIRE_W0QQitemZ110044012466QQih Z001QQcategoryZ36077QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Tengu
20-10-2006, 22:08
Mines a little different

candle
matches
flint
beta light
flexible saw
potassium permangnate
painkillers
aquatabs
needles and thread
fishing kit (line, hooks, weights, and a few coloured bits to make lures with)
compass
beta light
whistle
mirror
couple of ready made snares
plasters
scapel
steri strips
condom
saftey pins
foil sheet
ziplock bag
couple windproof candles

Stutoffee
03-11-2006, 20:29
Heres mine. Its changed a little since the picture was taken, Ive upgraded to "proper" (blackhawk) paracord, a new design glowring & added some glow-in-th-dark beads (55p for a pack of 100 or so from Hobbycraft!) onto the paracord.
I AM in the process of switching to a BCB mini mess tin & will swap the SAK Classic SD (with scales removed NOT to save weight but coz I broke 'em!) to a Leatherman Micra or maybe even a full-size SAK (Huntsman?).
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c309/Stutoffee/Kitcensored.jpg

spamel
03-11-2006, 21:13
What's the cheeky ID disc about?!!

Tipi
03-11-2006, 21:49
i was thinkin the same, but we shouldnt dwell on such things!
what are the day glo rectangles at the top left for?

tp

Martyn
04-11-2006, 00:08
What's the cheeky ID disc about?!!

Moral booster I wopuld think. :D

The little black squares seem to have got bigger. :lmao:

swyn
04-11-2006, 08:38
My tin was a Players Navy (now collectable!) and due to this thread has been replaced by the BCB tin as it has those super roll over clips. My only observation is from an experience fishing. Remember to have some small hooks too with the bigger ones. I caught twelve small fish once to feed myself and the people that I met in the hut (NZ). While gutting the small fish a couple of big fish came along and ate the offal. One of these would have fed the party but I had no suitable big hook. Although this could have another ending as the big fish could have broken the line and we would have had no supper at all!!
I think today as my eyes are not as good as they were I would add a reading glass lens as this would enable me to see better. A one eyed view of the world is always positive!

Stutoffee
05-11-2006, 16:39
Moral booster I wopuld think. :D

The little black squares seem to have got bigger. :lmao:

Yep! Definate morale booster! I read on some US site about having a pic of a loved one in your kit as "a reason to survive" so I have the dogtag with my ID details on one side & pic of SWMBO on t'other!
(Censored mainly for the US sites, dontcha know!) :rolleyes:

The dayglo rectangles are just pieces of paper which I figure could double as markers or lures.

Ahjno
23-11-2006, 19:11
I came across this a few minutes ago:

http://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/military/index.asp
select: Fieldcraft >> Survival

http://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/products/SVL052.jpg


Survival mess tins. Black. Code: SVL052
This fits easily into most pockets and pouches. Aluminium tin with roll top closed lid. 5.5cm high, 16cm long and 11.5cm wide. Ideal for an extensive survival kit, pot can be used for cooking in an emergency. £5.99

&

http://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/products/SVL053.jpg


Survival mess tins. Silver. Code: SVL053
This fits easily into most pockets and pouches. Aluminium tin with roll top closed lid. 4.5cm high, 16cm long and 10.5cm wide. Ideal for an extensive survival kit, pot can be used for cooking in an emergency. £3.99


Hope it's of some use for someone in future :approve:

spamel
23-11-2006, 19:54
I'm a bit annoyed that they charge extra to deliver to a BFPO address, it shouldn't cost a penny more to post to BFPO as it is delivered to Mill Hill in London and then moved from there to it's destination by Military Postal Couriers. I may send them a message as I think they are trying to rip off the BFPO people! :aargh4:

MagiKelly
23-11-2006, 20:41
I'm a bit annoyed that they charge extra to deliver to a BFPO address, it shouldn't cost a penny more to post to BFPO as it is delivered to Mill Hill in London and then moved from there to it's destination by Military Postal Couriers. I may send them a message as I think they are trying to rip off the BFPO people! :aargh4:

It does cost extra to post to a BFPO address. The hammock postage for one hammock is £2.20 for one but to a BFPO address is £3.70 approx. I think the rules have changed as the person I was sending it too expected it to be the same as normal UK postage.

spamel
23-11-2006, 22:22
Well, it shouldn't be any different. I know that some post offices will charge more if you put germany in the address, but if you put Mill Hill, London that will stop them charging extra. Unfortunately most PO's don't know it costs nothing extra, and so you basically need to argue with them!

I don't think Tiffers had to pay any extra to send my Halloween stuff over.

ArkAngel
23-11-2006, 22:32
Okies here's mine.......

Please no comments on the fact that it's a Ray Mears pouch.
Like most bushcrafty things i own they bought before i knew this site existed so i wasn't aware of the different things available to me.

The original kit is the military survival tin from Penrith survival (NATO button compass, much better quality). I have substituted the weedy flint and steel for a full size firestick, added some cut to size plasters along with some inner tube and blue flame lighter for bombproof firelighting in an emergency.

In the future i would like to get one of the roller clip mess tins as they look slightly larger. I would then like to add a better knife (opinel or the like) a small LED torch and maybe some form of long lasting emergency food.

Anyway the full kit laid out......
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k98/ArkAngel_06/DSCN2982.jpg


Packed away....
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k98/ArkAngel_06/DSCN2984.jpg


In the pouch......
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k98/ArkAngel_06/DSCN2985.jpg


And the pouch on it's own.....
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k98/ArkAngel_06/DSCN2986.jpg

comments, things i may have missed out?

MagiKelly
23-11-2006, 22:32
I don't think it was the Germany part. They had a table of all the BFPO numbers and the charge varied depending on what BFPO number there was. I have queried it and it has happened in a number of different post offices.

scanker
24-11-2006, 05:42
I did look at the RM website last night and it appeared that First Class and HM Forces Mail were exactly the same price. BFPO is free to operational zones and some ships on operational duties AFAIK.

scanker
24-11-2006, 05:46
...comments, things i may have missed out?

Mine's based on the Ritter kit and the main differences I can see are a small roll of duct tape and the heavy duty foil for making into a water container/pan.

Some sort of torch? A photon or similar?

ArkAngel
24-11-2006, 08:36
Mine's based on the Ritter kit and the main differences I can see are a small roll of duct tape and the heavy duty foil for making into a water container/pan.

Some sort of torch? A photon or similar?

Yes thats the idea with a no8 opinel maybe. I'd need a bigger tin and pouch to fit everything in so it goes on the back burner until i feel i really need it (or maybe a second pouch.
Don't want to look like a jedi knight though! :D

And the advantage of the small pouch at the moment is, it is small enough to wear and no be aware it's there.....untill i forget and get back in the car, stabbing myself in the kidneys with it :lmao: :censored:

MagiKelly
24-11-2006, 09:59
I did look at the RM website last night and it appeared that First Class and HM Forces Mail were exactly the same price. BFPO is free to operational zones and some ships on operational duties AFAIK.

The key might be the operational zones bit. I am not sure if Germany is classed as an operational zone.

Also I did not know the Ray Mears site had such detailed postal information ;)

scanker
24-11-2006, 10:06
No you're right, Germany wouldn't be operational (and therefore free), but it should (I think) be the same price as First Class.

Price Finder: http://sg.royalmail.com/portal/rm/PriceFinder?reset=true

MagiKelly
24-11-2006, 10:20
Looks like I was charged for a Mail Parcel instead of Airmail. Seems to be the same service but one is dearer. I'll know better the next time now.

Burncycle
03-12-2006, 06:17
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(direct link: http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7151/largejh4io1yd5.jpg )

SunDog
10-12-2006, 20:26
Heres the MOD issue Escape and Evasion / Combat Survival Kit.
It doesn't actually come with a lot of items. A couple of things are missing, like the magnifying lens for fire starting, and I have added a red pyrotechnic kit.
Its a slim, discreet pouch and kit, can be tucked away in the poachers pocket of a windproof jacket.

Items in the picture are: Pouch (doubles as water carrier), Magnesium spark stick, Wire saw, NATO fishing kit, Mini brass compass, Snare wire, Heliograph, Pyrotechnic flares.

You can tell the difference in the quality of the individual items compared with a lot of the stuff that is commercially available. It isn't a comprehensive set up, but designed as a lightweight kit for "prone to capture" troops / aircrew.

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/2060/eandekitlt3.jpg