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British Red

10-10-2006, 20:46

Okay, a lot of you know I am a serious coffee head. Following an insomniacs conference between morch, Spikey da Pikey and me back in August, here is my guide to the perfect cup of coffee. Now the roasting and grinding can be done before leaving home – but if “Base Camping” there is nothing more guaranteed to occasion a good wake up than fresh roasting coffee!

Now I haven’t compromised making this – I’m after the PERFECT brew here. So we will start with roasting our own beans. This needs a lot of heat and movement. It takes about 10 minutes and needs 200 degrees plus C (500F). So, take your green beans of choice. Green beans keep much longer and fresher than roasted beans. You can buy online from a number of sources and then roast them as needed. They are much smaller than roasted beans as they “pop” like popcorn when roasted. Some people do this in a popcorn maker or specialist air roaster. But we are bushcrafters right? So we’ll use a skillet. Put a good double handful (or more) of beans in your skillet. Here’s what they look like in the pan

http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/6697/greenbeanslp8.jpg

Now we need to get our pan hot. In camp, a good bed of coals is ideal, but I’m doing these photos at home as I just had a load of beans delivered. A good excuse to try out my new MSR Dragonfly. A lid is useful here to get the heat up

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Keep the beans moving in the pan. You can leave the lid on at this stage – the idea is to stop them burning on one side (they will cook a little unevenly – just try to minimise it so it evens out over time. After a few minutes they start to change colour

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5575/browningte3.jpg

Soon you will hear faint popping (like popcorn). This is where the right pan is handy. You can do this in a billycan, but in a skillet, you can move and “toss” the beans. This lets the skin catch the breeze and blow away (like the fine skin you get making popcorn). See the stuff stuck to the sides of the pan? That’s the skin.

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Now, you can roast darker or lighter at this stage. Not sure how dark? Well roast it a while, take some out, put in a bowl, roast some more to a darker roast. You’ll soon find what’s best for you. It varies with the type of bean too…

When you are happy with the roast, ideally let it rest for 3 or 4 hours. If impatient, just let it cool and transfer the cooled beans to your hand grinder. If you have loads of chaff, toss the beans in the air with a bit of a breeze – the chaff blows away (like winnowing wheat)

http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/9047/grind1sv8.jpg

Crank your hand mill to grind the beans. You can adjust the coarse / fine nature of the grind. The one shown here was a little coarse so I tightened the mill and put it back through.

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Grind enough coffee for the percolator basket. See below for the main parts of a percolator – a pot with a glass lid (important that bit – you’ll see why later). Fill the pot with cold water so that the basket, when put in the pot, is just clear of the water. Put the lid on the basket, put in the pot and close the lid. Put the pot on the stove or fire and raise the temperature

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Raise the temperature of the put till “blurbs” of water force themselves up the pipe in the middle of the basket and filter back through the coffee into the water. Now regulate the temperature until you get a “blurp” of water every couple of seconds. The best coffee is not boiled hard but kept at a lowish even temperature. You can monitor the colour of the coffee and the speed of “blurp” through the glass lid

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After five minutes – or when the coffee looks right, remove from the heat and pour into favourite mug. I take mine with a dash of milk if available – otherwise black. Purists say always black but hey – this is MY perfect coffee :D

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5240/pourms2.jpg

Hope that’s interesting to someone

Red

ArkAngel

10-10-2006, 20:54

Most informative, i like a nice brew myself.

That stove looks familiar :D
For future info, the 3 legs actualy clip into the base. It's very close the way you have it but you have to squeeze the legs together to clip into the three baseplates. That way it's stable in any environment.

Of course if you knew that already, please feel free to ignore me and hurl any justifiable abuse at me you deem fit :lmao:

Not sure about roasting the beans myself. SWMBO HATES the smell of coffee so i don't think i could get away with that in the house.

Now where did i put that MSR Dragonfly stove so i could do it outside?.......DOH!

leon-b

10-10-2006, 21:06

i dont like coffe but great tutorial anyway
leon

British Red

10-10-2006, 21:07

Martin - they are "sort of" clipped - one part in a hole with a flange - the other in one of them turn buckly things. God thats hopeless - I'll take a pic of how I did it and you (or someone who knows) can tell me how it should be done!

Well - you did ask me to ensure it got used - it was a good opportunity to get familiar with the stove too (its a beaut by the way - thanks buddy).

To be honest, I wouldn't suggest skillet roasting indoors. The smell is fantastic but theres a lot of (great smelling) smoke. Its a chance to enjoy the ritual too. LS and others will tell you I am more than willing to take time over my coffee!

Red

British Red

10-10-2006, 21:08

Leon - its cos you have had nasty instant stuff mate - trust me - when we get a weekend out you'll try this stuff and change your mind!

Red

seany boy

10-10-2006, 21:30

Great tutorial Red, can almost smell that coffee! Never tried to roast my own beans but this has really got me wanting to give it a go :You_Rock_

dommyracer

10-10-2006, 21:55

nice one red, nice tutorial. I was in Jamaica not long ago and drunk more coffee on that oliday than I have in a long time. Couldn't get enough of that Blue Mountain.....

I like your perculator BTW, I use one of those two part stove top ones I bought from TK Maxx

http://www.lacafetiere.com/Consumer/Products/ProductShotsImages/Moka%20ExpressSmall.jpg

EdS

10-10-2006, 22:03

I tend to grind the beans in a pestle and mortar and simmer in the pot for little while,

Or make Turkish in an Ibrik (spelling?) on the fire

wanderinstar

10-10-2006, 22:03

Sounds brill does that. 2 questions. where do you get the beans from and the grinder and perculator?
Dont suppose your going to Loch Achray?

British Red

10-10-2006, 22:17

The coffee pot was a kind gift from Nemesis (Dave) on the forum when I burned out my last one! It is a little cracker for two people. I've just had to buy a big enamel pot for meets though (strange how the smell attracts fellow coffee heads). I envy you the trip to jamaica - and especially the Blue Mountain - fantastic coffee (and a small mortgage in this country)!

As for sources - these guys are great

http://www.hasbean.co.uk/

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Mulberries-Coffee-Shop (ring them - they are great)

Sorry Ian - not going to the meet (wish I could though) :(

Hows about a tutorial on the Turkish coffee Eds?

Red

chickenofthewoods

11-10-2006, 01:55

Hmmm..... This looks mighty familiar Red! ;) :lmao:

Spikey DaPikey

11-10-2006, 02:06

Mmmmmmmmmmmm coffee :rolleyes:

OldJimbo

11-10-2006, 02:08

Now roasting beans is something I've never tried. I do have a stovetop/camp expresso maker, though. I guess I'm going to have to give roasting a try.

British Red

11-10-2006, 07:02

First time out for me recently Jimbo. I've heard people go on about air roasters etc. which is all abit too high tech for this country boy (read simpleton). Theres also some stove top roasters out there that are manual (basically a pan with a paddle like a butter churn). But reading around the subject I cam on references to roasting in a skillet. Got into grinding my own beans years ago which does give a noticeable fresher cup. Problem is the beans don't keep in the roasted state too well (you can freeze em and stuff but that doesn't help in the field). So the thought of

1. Smaller size to pack with the green beans
2. Fresher roast and taste (and boy it does help)
3. Abilitiy to roast in a billy can or dutch oven

Sold me on the whole thing. It really does make a nice brew too :D

I've bunged the photos onto a few forums now as I really would encourage people to give it a try (you can get half a pound of beans on the hasbean link above). You will need some sort of grinder though. I've tried in a pestle and mortar with poor results to be honest....could probably manage with a blender though. Wish I could think of a practical way ow doing it in the field (I guess a cloth bag, log and a rock would work in a push :))

Red

gregorach

11-10-2006, 09:57

It's not the perfect brew if you're using a percolator, IMHO... Gotta be a stovetop esspresso pot (like the ones in dommyracer's post). :)

Lurch

11-10-2006, 10:02

Good stuff Red mate!
I just tried some of the Kopi Luwak from Hasbean, this is the civit cat poo coffee.
Tastes like coffee.

EdS

11-10-2006, 10:17

Turkish coffee or mud as SWMBO calls it.

For each small (large expresso size):

1 desert spoon coffee (good dark roast) - very finely ground (powder) is possible
1 desert spoon sugar (I use slightly less sugar than coffee as I like a little bitterness)
1 cardomon pod (and also use cinnamon if you like).

Fill he post with cold water and slowly bring a rolling boil. Remove from the heat for a minute then bring back to simmer, remove again and rest for a minute and bring to simmer for 3rd time. (This 3 simmers makes most of the coffee settle to the bottom.) Leave for a minute or so for it to settle. Pour in to small cup and drink. Just watch the last part as there will be some coffee grounds in the cup.

Serve with a large stick baklava and glass of water.

Remember coffee should be: black as night, hot as hell and as sweet as an angels kiss.

morch

11-10-2006, 20:30

You're a star Red, I've just ordered myself a coffee pot, and when it arrices I'll be following your 'how to' to the letter.

Cheers mate.

Dave

Rebel

11-10-2006, 20:41

Looks like a good brew British Red but I would forego the percolator in favour of a cafetiére myself. I have a stainless steel one that is great for the outdoors (and the house too). I find the cafetiére gives a better taste myself.

I also have the stove top espresso makers that "dommyracer" mentions but this type of gadget is only good for very finely ground coffee. The blend is also important.

Usually the coffee that goes into this kind of machine is dark roasted with a full body and has robusta beans blended in to give it an extra caffeine bite. Only a small amount of water is used per cup. If you want more liquid the normal practice is to either add hot water to make an "Americano" or hot milk to make a "Latte" (café au lait).

weaver

11-10-2006, 21:05

I have had my coffee from a percolator since I was a country youth in Alabama (redneck capital of America). But the roasting is another matter. I have heard that green beans will last a long time and I have thought of buying a 50 pound bag since the price seems to jump so often. There is a distributor in my area, so no shipping expense.

Now I know I will step up and make the purchase, I never knew it was so easy to roast. At least YOU make it look easy! I'll probably bungle the first batch. :lmao:

Toddy

11-10-2006, 21:17

Remember coffee should be: black as night, hot as hell and as sweet as an angels kiss.

Now that's how I like my coffee :D like that even cold I love it.

Nice tutorial Red. :You_Rock_ I didn't know green beans stored well :cool:
Thanks for all the links,

Cheers,
Toddy

Tadpole

11-10-2006, 21:19

It's not the perfect brew if you're using a percolator, IMHO... Gotta be a stovetop esspresso pot (like the ones in dommyracer's post). :)
I’m sorry but I have to disagree. The perfect cup of coffee is made thusly
Grind enough Hawaiian elephant beans to make your coffee. I use 1 1/4 spoon of ground coffee per cup.
Boil a pint of filtered water (Brita type of filter) you must filter it as tap water is full of dissolved metals and chlorines that you need to get out.
Warm the Cafetiere before putting in your fine ground coffee, add the water (that has boiled and allowed to settle in the kettle for a minute) stir the Cafetiere once, then add a pinch of green cardamom (if you can get it, if not a tiny grating of nutmeg ) put in the filter plunger let stand for five minutes. Wrap the Cafetiere in a tea towel or pot cover. Wen it has settled Pour in to a small thick china cup (china keeps the coffee warmer for longer and does not taint the coffee like plastic or metal could.)

Now if you plan to drink a couple of cups of coffee in one go, then you can either dip a hard lump of “Chinese rock sugar” into the cup ( drinking the coffee before refreshing the cup with more hot coffee, the sugar will take quite along time to dissolve. When you have finished turn the cups upside down on the tray, turn the tray upside down over you head, the cups should stick to the tray. I find that three demi-tasse cups of coffee will dissolve the lump.) Or if you are feeling ethnic make your coffee in the way described, but lodge the lump sugar in the corner of your mouth. And drink the coffee, swilling it in your mouth and around the sugar as you go.

Now that is the perfect way to drink coffee. I was taught this method by the coffee buyer for one of the better coffee import company in Bristol. Mr Carwardine, the elder. Not his sell out of a grandson, who sells decaff******ted coffee beans. A "percolator" will burn the grounds making the coffee overly bitter
and esspresso coffee is a fad ;)

Lithril

11-10-2006, 21:24

Excellent tutorial, cheers Red. Coffee for me should be black hot and strong, really can't stand it sweet. Milk is only to make instant taste passable, decent coffee doesn't need... but then thats me. Right to get some green beans now :D Wonder if they'll let me roast them over a bunsen at work :rolleyes:

Toddy

11-10-2006, 21:37

I've just bought one of the £3.99 chestnut roasting pans from Lidl's.....wonder how that would work with coffee beans over an open fire :D

atb,
Toddy

Lithril

11-10-2006, 21:44

bugger was up there today and missed that one, will have to have another look.

Toddy

11-10-2006, 22:08

They've been in our store for about a fortnight now, there were half a dozen or so left this afternoon. It's long handled and comes with a chestnut cutter; like a pair of small salad tongs with a serrated blade inside. :cool: All right for under £4 :D

atb,
Mary

Spikey DaPikey

12-10-2006, 02:33

Now THIS is the coffee ya need Red ;) :p

http://www.firebox.com/?dir=firebox&action=product&pid=616

Toddy

12-10-2006, 09:24

Y'have to wonder, you really do. :confused:
How hungry must one be to eat weasel sick? yet folks buy it as a 'speciality' food.

Funny old world. :cool:

cheers,
Toddy

British Red

12-10-2006, 10:27

Weird stuff huh? The Kopi Luwak Lurch was describing above is similar. Don't know how to describe this on a family fourm...but I'll try :D

Its been through the digestive tract of a civit cat - although it progresses normally rather than making the animal sick :eek:

I'm kinda with Lithril and weaver here...I do like cafitieres (French Press for our colonial cousins :nana: ) but they do tend to cool the coffee too much. I also enjoy the occasiona espresso but I like a big mug of coffee too - if that was espresso I'd be bouncing off the trees!

Love to have a cup of EdS's or Tadpoles though....may have to try that myself! Anyone have a source for "Chinese Rock Sugar" please?

Quite like the sound of that chestnut pan though....nooo must resist! :D

Red

chickenofthewoods

12-10-2006, 10:39

:lmao: Ha! I've got one Red. And no, you can't borrow it.

British Red

12-10-2006, 11:25

Guess I'll have to persevere with the big cast iron skillet jobby then mate. Sadly actually, there are very few sweet chestnuts round here - I'm blessed with so much else that I can't complain but we have a few horse chestnuts and very few sweet ones which is sad. Farmer is arranging to plant a new walnut plantation though...how very cool of the man (going to try to talk him into a few mulberry trees too - not that I'l ever get one but my grandchildren might) :D

Red

chickenofthewoods

12-10-2006, 11:51

I think your iron skillet would probably be better for beans anyway, it'll hold the heat better and more evenly.

But I'm still wondering why it is that chestnut pans have to have holes. :confused:

bilko

12-10-2006, 15:35

Great tutorial Red, thanks.
I'm realy tempted to get a perc now and try some green beans.
I just love the idea of cowboy coffe , ie in an enamel pot on the stove although they never seem to use a perc. Maybe that's why it's so bitter, actualy they don't use a pec which is why they chuck the grounds over the fire with the last inch of coffee. I had no idea it could be so easy to roast your own beans either. have to be careful though, skillet, grinder, perc and beans could easily cost a ton! and that would have to be one fine cup of coffee.

addyb

12-10-2006, 15:49

Good stuff, guys. I've been a coffee fiend of years, I think I started when I was 13. I'm drinking a delicious cup of Black Gold right now, it's part of my morning routine before I go to class to sit here with a big steaming cup and check the forums.

I've had ulcers a few times from the stuff too; I get stressed out about exams and then I end up chain smoking, drinking too much coffee and in a couple of days...bam! Ulcer time.

And EdS, this one's for you: I like your turkish coffee recipe, but you gotta remember one thing: When you're making it in the cezve, remember to let it foam at least three times before you take it off the heat and allow it to settle! :)

Cheers,

Adam

PS: If you're making really strong coffee and you know it'll be bitter, add a pinch of salt to the grounds before you add the water. It's an old US Navy trick and it works amazingly well.

Lithril

12-10-2006, 16:48

I'm kinda with Lithril and weaver here...I do like cafitieres (French Press for our colonial cousins :nana: ) but they do tend to cool the coffee too much. I also enjoy the occasiona espresso but I like a big mug of coffee too - if that was espresso I'd be bouncing off the trees!

Urmm yeah, I was meeting someone at Heathrow once and they were late getting in, so I just sat there drinking coffee, think it was half way through my 4th large, strong americano from Starbucks that I decided it might be time to slow down or stop as sitting still was getting interesting and I definatly felt... unusual (more than normal)... bizarre feeling.

British Red

12-10-2006, 17:29

Bilko - doesn't have to cost much mate - second hand percolators can be had for a couple of quid from charity shops or just use your billy can and a tea strainer, a cafitiere etc.

I'll happily send some gree beans to try it out if you want (no charge). Hand grinders and electric grinders can both be had for under £15. I've heard you can use some food processors but I couldn't advise on that - never tried it.

As for roasting, use a wok, frying pan, heavy saucepan, dutch oven - whatever you have!

Other than the grinder and the beans, everything can be improvised - so you shouldn't be out more than £20

Red

bilko

12-10-2006, 22:11

Red :)
You are so kind, thankyou for your generous offer.
What i will do is scout around for bits and pieces as you have said and then when the time comes i will send off for some green beans. :D
I am not a great coffee drinker although i prefer 'proper' coffee to tea. i must admit that when i visited Italy and tried 'real' espresso, icouldn't get enough of it.
Funnily enough i have turned into a decaf person at home. not that i have anything against caffein but too much of it was interupting my sleep in a nasty way ( and i mean bad side effects ). like when you are just about to drop off you HAVE to turn over otherwise you are going to die.
i know, dramatic hugh, but i was getting worried.
still drink coffee at work though and i treat it more as an indulgence at home. gave up milk too for soya milk but i wouldn't dare put that in my coffee in front of any of you lot :lmao: ;)
Anyway i'm waffling.
thanks mate.

Tadpole

12-10-2006, 22:38

Love to have a cup of EdS's or Tadpoles though....may have to try that myself! Anyone have a source for "Chinese Rock Sugar" please?

Red

You can find all kinds of Rock sugar at your local Asian (Chinese) convenience store. It comes in several types white, yellow or even black. Yellow is the more traditional type. you can get rock sugar in som of the better tea and coffee shops butthe lumps tend to be smaller.

Once up on a time nearly all white sugar was sold in the form of a sugar loaf. You’d chop of bits of the loaf and crush or grind it into the grade of sugar you wanted. I guess not having to crush the sugar to put in your coffee was a simply a time and labour saving practice.

rik_uk3

13-10-2006, 01:02

Spikey DaPikey

13-10-2006, 03:18

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Classic-Sona-stove-top-coffee-percolator_W0QQitemZ1300333912 79QQihZ003QQcategoryZ20671QQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VINTAGE-COFFEE-PERCOLATOR-BRITISH-STOVE-TOP-AGA-HOB_W0QQitemZ290037747684QQihZ 019QQcategoryZ982QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Coffee-Percolator-Stove-Top-Cafetiere_W0QQitemZ26003980027 5QQihZ016QQcategoryZ14309QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VINTAGE-RETRO-SWAN-COFFEE-PERCOLATOR_W0QQitemZ2300382001 34QQihZ013QQcategoryZ14309QQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem

Yup, im bored again LOL :red:

British Red

13-10-2006, 06:06

Thanks Tadpole (and Mr Da P).

Sadly, my local Asian store is probably an hours drive away (indeed the newsagents is a 10 minute drive :D) - perils of country living and all that. I'll keep an eye out next time I'm in town though.

Rather like the £1.99 one Spikey - but that just me being cheap!

Red

Too Much Kit To Carry

13-10-2006, 06:43

The Prefect Cup of Coffee.

I'd just like to add a little to this thread.

Follow Red's comprehensive instructions to the letter, BUT THEN allow all of the coffee to cool so that it is no more than tepid. Take the coffee to a safe and uninhabited area - this obviously includes animals - and throw it into the nearest hedge! Re-brew this time making a nice cup of tea. Job done. :lmao:

Top tutorial Red BTW.

Phil.

chickenofthewoods

14-10-2006, 00:18

:lmao: Earl Grey for me - no sugar please :cool:

leon-1

14-10-2006, 12:46

Red can't give you any rep at the mo mate as I have to spread some about before it will allow me to give you any more.

Good tutorial and good links, was the coffe percolator one of the old Swan ones by any chance???:)

British Red

14-10-2006, 13:04

leon-1

14-10-2006, 13:14

Your very kind Leon :o

Wow you know your percolators :eek: . Yep its a 1 1/2 pint Swan - tbh, it fills my old US metal mug rather nicely when out and about (and a bit left over for the GF :D ). I have just invested in a 14 cup Coleman for larger meets and group outings since the Swan is too small when there's half a dozen of us. Its a nice blue enamel jobby and makes me feel like I should be using a saddle as a pillow :D

Red

I know what you mean about them not being quite large enough for groups:D. I had one whilst in the forces for a while, unfortunately like so many things it sprouted it's own little set of legs and walked:aargh4:

atraildreamer

15-10-2006, 05:38

Start a fresh pot...I'll bring a box of donuts! :You_Rock_

Spikey DaPikey

27-03-2007, 00:10

Hey Red, seen this, and i thought of you ;)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ENAMEL-COFFEE-PERCULATOR-BRIGHT-YELLOW-SHABBY-CHIC_W0QQitemZ160099983443QQca tegoryZ13933QQssPageNameZWDVWQ QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

British Red

27-03-2007, 06:39

Its a bit.....yellow though huh?

Glad you remember it though :)

Red

Geuf

27-03-2007, 08:06

wow, tis tread has exploded. illustrates how many people like coffee. I love coffee, especially made this way. great tutorial Red.

:You_Rock_

redcollective

27-03-2007, 08:43

Y'have to wonder, you really do. :confused:
How hungry must one be to eat weasel sick? yet folks buy it as a 'speciality' food.

Funny old world. :cool:

cheers,
Toddy

Hate to break it to you Toddy but it's not the *sick* of the animal that they harvest it from - it's from the other end!

It's the enzymes in the stomach of the animal which are reputed to impart the much sought after flavour.

Value added, if you know what I mean.

Spikey DaPikey

27-03-2007, 11:05

Its a bit.....yellow though huh?

Glad you remember it though :)

Red

Woodsmoke will soon hide the yellow ;)

twisted firestarter

27-03-2007, 12:59

I like an occasional mug of filter coffee. For anyone who also prefers filter these look like a good bit of kit and take up practically no space :)

http://www.withoutdoors.co.uk/product.php?WSCam=froogle&WSEvt=Ortlieb+OD10F+Coffee-Filter+Holder&id=4147&node_id=3763

oetzi

27-03-2007, 17:04

Great tutorial Red, can almost smell that coffee! Never tried to roast my own beans but this has really got me wanting to give it a go :You_Rock_

Hah, nothing smells worse than the beans while roasting. Makes me sick everytime I do it.
But I would never do roast by contact in a pan, only with an air gun. This means roasting and grinding before leaving home, but thats no problem on a short trip.

An excellent source for coffee, as already stated:
http://www.hasbean.co.uk/
or if you want to know more about home roasting:
http://www.toomuchcoffee.com/index.php
and here something to read about my start :
http://www.toomuchcoffee.com/index.php?module=ContentExpres s&func=display&btitle=CE&mid=&ceid=81

How come it took me so long to discover this thread?

Danceswithhelicopters

27-03-2007, 18:00

Chaps
I will stick my neck out and say that the best way to make coffee is using the new Aeropress.
I've ran through all the types of the last 20 years and this one ABSOLUTELY wins.
Smooth, flavourful, with simple and functional design.
I found the roasting aspect fascinating and that combined with an Aeropress would be fantastic.
Kop Luwak was nice...quite chocolately... :o
But for me Java is the growing area of choice.
After much, much, much, much testing.

British Red

27-03-2007, 18:40

Perhaps - you're next on the grinder though

Oetzi - are you serious about the roasting smell? Everytime I do it in camp I have to beat people off the pan with a stick :D

I guess its one of those "love it / hate it" things. That and some grilling bacon are a great smell to wake up to in my book!

Red

Lurch

28-03-2007, 10:09

Hah, nothing smells worse than the beans while roasting. Makes me sick everytime I do it.

Blimey, it's one of the joys of home roasting for me. Mind I get complaints if I don't put the extractor fan on when I'm roasting.