View Full Version : Quilts for hammocking!
Many folks have bought and ordered a group buy under hammock quilt in the recent group buy's very kindly organised by Wanderinstar.The underquilts are made buy Snugpack,now I wonder if Snugpack would consider making a top quilt to use instead of a sleeping bag which are to me less than ideal! What do you learned bushcrafter types and experienced hammocker's)Magic Kelly ect!) think to this idea? Obviousley the experienced hammock campers would need to point out the best design to go for and features to add!
wentworth
07-10-2006, 10:08
There are already lots of top quilts on the market, but I can understand that it'd be nice to have a matching set.
Fanatic Fringe do top quilts with Polarguard Delta (the best synthetic insulation on the market) http://www.fanaticfringe.com/page6.html
Ray Jardine sells quilt kits which are very cheap and include a hood and draftstopper. (for those that sew). http://www.ray-way.com/quilt/index.shtml
My Girlfriend and I use a Jacks R Better Quilts either under or over us in our hammocks. Annette's weighs 400 grams... www.jacksrbetter.com
Speer Hammocks also sell down filled top quilts for a reasonable price www.hammockcamping.com
If Wanderingstar or Magikelly do decide to get matching top quilts made up, the one feature I'd recommend is a head hole in the centre sealed with omni velcro tape. This allows the quilt to be used as a insulated poncho (a la Jacks r Better http://www.jacksrbetter.com/Stuart%20Bilby-Dolpa%20Nepal.JPG) and would possibly negate the use of a thick jacket to wear at camp.
Just my thoughts. Boy what a rant....
Wouldn't it be great if they made an underblamket and top blanket that zipped together to make a sleeping bag? Just a normal Softie bag with an all round zip and baffle. A brilliant idea in fact, you should speak to Snugpak and see what they say!!
Anymore thoughts folks???
dommyracer
07-10-2006, 23:42
Wouldn't it be great if they made an underblamket and top blanket that zipped together to make a sleeping bag? Just a normal Softie bag with an all round zip and baffle. A brilliant idea in fact, you should speak to Snugpak and see what they say!!
I was thinking about this the other day, A sleeping bag that could be zipped apart into two halfs for use as a top and bottom quilt. It'd be doing themselves out of money in one way, but in another it mighht be very popular......
wentworth
08-10-2006, 00:25
It'd be a good idea, but taking into account the size the finished sleeping bag would be... the top quilt would have to me a minimum width of 48 inches, if the underquilt is a similar size, you could just about stick two people in the sleepingbag!
A quilt has to be more comfy in a hammock than a bag I reckon!
Why aren't there lines sewn into the bottom of a hammock sleeping bag to let folks just hang the whole thing up as is? Windproof the bottom layer, give it a thin dense foam base. Centre zip on the bag with a baffle behind. Nothing to fall off, slide out of the way or get in the road; just sit into it, swing around and zip up like a pea pod, or if it's too warm leave the bag sides hanging open. The whole thing woudl roll up like a bedroll.
Cheers,
Toddy
p.s. now I'll get a dozen references to hannock bags just like this :rolleyes: :D
M
I've been thinking along the same lines, the tension would have to run through the internal bag surface or you would lose the loft.
It should be do-able but it would need some very careful design.
How would long full length, 6cms wide, strips of velcro work on the present hammocks and sleeping bags? The under quilt/sleeping mat could be 'confined' within the velcro frame and the sleeping bag wouldn't move about.
Cheers,
Mary
Interesting suggestions chaps! reason I posed the question is that to be a sleeping bag has allways felt very restrictive to me and I figured that a quilt would be a much better idea! Now I dont think that I must be alone in reaching this conclusion.Some of you on here are regular hammocker's and must have some ideas on this very thing!
Something I have considered is that the sides of the magikelly hammocks will pull right around and over you.
If an under-quilt was large enough, would you need a sleeping bag at all if the quilt could wrap right around with a bit of overlap?
Has anybody tried sleeping in their hammock with the new under quilts and using their sleeping bag unzipped as a quilt.
MagiKelly
09-10-2006, 16:55
Has anybody tried sleeping in their hammock with the new under quilts and using their sleeping bag unzipped as a quilt.
Yes. I don't see the benefit in a quilt. Unzip your sleeping bag but leave about the last foot zipped. This gives you a "bucket of blanket" to keep your feet in and the rest of the sleeping bag goes over you like a blanket.
Works as treat but I think in colder conditions I might still want it zipped up.
wanderinstar
09-10-2006, 18:56
I had wondered about this in the first group buy. I asked the question and nearly everyone wanted underblanket.
I couldn't quite figure out where to put the face hole in top blanket. Because in a bag you have the hood that you can tighten round your face, to keep the heat in.
No no I am not even going to think about it. Besides I just bought myself a new -10deg bag
British Red
09-10-2006, 19:13
Naah it would be great Ian...think "camp blanket"...over large sigle balnket that can be worn Clint eastwood poncho style with a head hole that seals up dead centre in the quilt
Go on...you know you want to........I'll help with the design.......
Red
No no I am not even going to think about it.Oh its far too late for that now Ian my friend,you have allready started to think about it! :D
wanderinstar
09-10-2006, 19:44
Give over the pair of you.
Give over the pair of you. :lmao: :D
British Red
09-10-2006, 22:21
But Ian...it would sooo complete the "sleep system". Just think of the weight advantages too. Add a couple of velcro side ties and it would be the worlds snuggliest Gilet...great for camp fires....come on Ian....I'll talk the missus round...you know it makes sense.....
;)
Red
wentworth
10-10-2006, 00:59
Waylander, were you envisioning something that wraps around the entire hammock like this?
http://www.jacksrbetter.com/index_files/DSC00817.JPG
Has anyone seen these Wallcreeper (http://www.exped.com/exped/web/exped_homepage.nsf/b43HomePageE?openframeset) sleeping bags from Exped? They are a sort of jacket/sleeping bag hybrid with a centrally located zipper, arm slots, pockets and draw cord openable base so you can get out of your hammock in the middle of the night while wearing your sleeping bag. Seems great for those of us who like to fidget in the our hammocks and don't like getting cold when getting up half-way through the night for a wee. I would really like one but can't find a UK retailer on the net.
Sorry, can't seem to link straight to the product but click: products>sleeping bags>synthetic>wallcreeper DL.
wentworth
16-10-2006, 11:06
I know that some hammockers use them. Speer Hammocks also makes a similar bag with arm holes.
Also their poncho & quilted liner makes a basic sleep system
I find the German sleeping bag used with a Swiss Army blanket is ideal.
http://www.surplusandoutdoors.com/ishop/images/877/SBAG-GERMAN.jpg
http://swissmiss.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/64481.jpg
Top half of the bag zips off so you've a warm and waterproof coat as well.