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MagiKelly
21-06-2006, 10:28
Tarp Group Buy / Special Offer
This group buy is for Tatonka Tarps. This time there is a bigger range of sizes available. There are two versions of most sizes, a cotton one and a polyester one.
The picture below shows the pack size of the 3 x 3m one I used a pint mug for scale as I knew it would be something you could relate too http://www.songofthepaddle.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
http://www.magikelly.co.uk/tarp1.jpg
The cotton version is on the left, the poly one in the middle and on the right is a Hennessy Hex Fly. Despite the way the picture looks I would say the volume of the polyester one is the same or slightly more than the Hex Fly.
Weight wise the Poly one is quoted as being 0.8 or 0.9 kg depending on which label you read. The cotton one is 1.3 kg. I have no reason to doubt these weights but could not check them. What I was able to find out was that the poly one is 50 grams heavier than the Hex Fly.
Coverage wise the area of the 3 x 3m tarp is pretty much the same as the Hex Fly but obviously in a different shape. The 3m length is still a bit neat for my liking when using a hammock but if pitched diagonally there is plenty of length.
http://www.magikelly.co.uk/tarp2.jpg
The fixings points on the corners are very secure and the load is spread well with the webbing so should not damage the tarp.
http://www.magikelly.co.uk/tarp3.jpg
The fixing points on the edges are also well designed and transfer the loading well.
http://www.magikelly.co.uk/tarp4.jpg
Obviously you do not have to set the tarp on the diagonal. Here it is set to shelter from the wind, with the aid of an Old Town Pack canoe to break the wind. The height of the ridge line is just under 6 foot so this could easily be reduced to give a bigger area. The full size thermarest is to give a sense of scale.
http://www.magikelly.co.uk/tarp6.jpg
You can also set it up with one tree or pole.
http://www.magikelly.co.uk/tarp7.jpg
As usual I am not making any money on this group buy it is just a chance to get a bulk discount on a product that I like. So what do I like about these Tarps? Well they are very well made and they are obviously built to take a lot of hard use.
Between the cotton one and the polyester one my preference is for the cotton one. It just feels better but it has to be remembered I am not carrying it on my back, it is just ballast in my canoe. If i was carrying all my gear I would probably still go for the cotton one unless I was covering large distances and wanted to keep weight to an absolute minimum. Cotton is also likely to be better near a fire although it is still not fire proof. The cotton is coated to make it waterproof. Not sure how long the coating lasts though. I would imagine re-coating should be straight forward, as it is with my Tentipi.
The tarp comes with a bag in the same material as the tarp ( a bit big for my liking) and four guy lines as sen in the pictures. The guy lines are yellow or orange (may even be other colours) and are plenty strong. Thicker than I would normally use but I will not hold that against them.
Price wise these have gone up since the first group buy but I still think it is a good deal
The group but prices are
Tarp 1 = 4.5 x 4.5m Cotton £66 and Poly £58
Tarp 2 = 3 x 3m £37.50 Cotton and Poly £33
Tarp 3 = 4 x 4m £55.00 Poly only
Tarp 4 = 3 x 4m £46.00 Cotton only
These prices include postage in the UK but are based on you sending me a cheque. I am more than happy to take paypal but you need to add £0.20 then 3.6% to the total order value to cover fees.
Also I should highlight that the cotton one is not 100% cotton but is still far more durable than the Poly one but not as heavy as a truly 100% cotton option.
If you want to take advantage of this offer then post a message here saying which one you want and how many. I will then get back to you with the payment details.
Hi John,
I've been hoping this group buy would crop up again :D
Please may i have a cotton 3x3.
Thanks very much.
Biddlesby
21-06-2006, 10:37
Put me down for one cotton 3x3 also, ta.
Buckshot
21-06-2006, 10:41
Yes please John.
1 x 3x3 cotton
1 x 3x3 poly
:You_Rock_
Mark
MagiKelly
21-06-2006, 10:46
Bloody Hell! That was quick. Have you all just been sitting here waiting for this?
Anyway so far
andyn 3x3 Cotton
Biddlesby 3x3 Cotton
Buckshot 3x3 one cotton and one poly.
4 so far. I will make up the PM with the payment options and send it off.
Can I have a 3x3 cotton one as well please. Cheers MK!
MagiKelly
21-06-2006, 11:29
andyn 3x3 Cotton
Biddlesby 3x3 Cotton
Buckshot 3x3 one cotton and one poly.
mark a. 3x3 Cotton
5 so far
Without giving the supplier any free advertising people will soon see that this is the same supplier that I used for the first group buy. Although different from the hammock supplier, Insect netting supplier and dry bags supplier. To head off any thoughts that I am just taking the easy route I can confirm that I spoke to another supplier as well for these tarps and got discounted prices for the tarps. It just happens that the original supplier was cheapest.
one 3x3 Poly for me m8 =)
:You_Rock_
Btw. no Hexfly's planned? :P:P:P
MagiKelly
21-06-2006, 11:58
one 3x3 Poly for me m8 =)
:You_Rock_
Btw. no Hexfly's planned? :P:P:P
No Hex flys planned and also postage to Sweden will be a bit higher. I'll need to check and will PM you once I have a figure.
Dougster
21-06-2006, 12:44
Could I put my name down for a 3x3 cotton tarp please?
Much appreciated again.
Richard
PhilParry
21-06-2006, 13:21
Hi John...
Managed to get on here before I go!
May I have a Tarp 4 = 3 x 4m £46.00 Cotton rather than a 3x3? :rolleyes:
Better suited to my hammock, which, btw, I tried for the first time last night....
SOOOOO Comfortable!!! :beerchug:
According to my maths this should work out as £47.86 as I'll be paying with Paypal?
Thanks again!
Phil
Hi MagiKelly,
Could you put me down for one cotton 3x3 please.
many thanks for this, a true gent :)
Monkey
Buckshot
21-06-2006, 13:50
Bloody Hell! That was quick. Have you all just been sitting here waiting for this?
Errm - yes ;)
MagiKelly
21-06-2006, 16:23
andyn 3x3 Cotton
Biddlesby 3x3 Cotton
Buckshot 3x3 one cotton and one poly.
mark a. 3x3 Cotton
HuBBa 3x3 Poly
richeadon 3x3 Cotton
PhilParry 3 x 4m Cotton
Monkey 3x3 Cotton
9 so far plus 2 on SotP
(the minimum order was 10 but I was sure that was going to be no problem)
raskusdrotti
21-06-2006, 17:05
I'll take a 3x3 cotton please John......
:D
Can anyone please advise on the most suitable size to cover the group buy hammocks.
obsession
21-06-2006, 18:21
Hi John,
a real masochist aren't you! :You_Rock_
one 3x3 cotton please.
Thanks,
Gav
jamesoconnor
21-06-2006, 18:23
3x4 cotton please john.
regards
james
hi john
can you please put me down for a 3x3 cotton one
thanks
Hello John
3x4 cotton please...............Jon
Can anyone please advise on the most suitable size to cover the group buy hammocks.
3x3 should do you if you set up the tarp diagonally, see picture 2 above.............Jon
MagiKelly
21-06-2006, 20:20
andyn 3x3 Cotton
Biddlesby 3x3 Cotton
Buckshot 3x3 one cotton and one poly.
mark a. 3x3 Cotton
HuBBa 3x3 Poly
richeadon 3x3 Cotton
PhilParry 3 x 4m Cotton
Monkey 3x3 Cotton
raskusdrotti 3x3 Cotton
maddave 3x3 Cotton
obsession 3x3 Cotton
jamesoconnor 4x3 Cotton
sparks 3x3 Cotton
Jon Pickett 4x3 Cotton
dommyracer 3x3 Cotton
16 so far plus the ones on SotP. I know I should be used to it by now after all the hammock group buys but I thought that this would have been a bit slower after the previous buys.
MagiKelly
21-06-2006, 20:24
3x3 should do you if you set up the tarp diagonally, see picture 2 above.............Jon
True but if you get the 4 x 3m one and set it so that it is 4m along the ridge line it is giving you plenty of cover and as it is shorter than the 3 x 3m on the diagonal it is easier to hang the hammock closer to the underside of the tarp.
In truth both will give plenty of cover in the worst conditions so it is a matter of personal preference. Even the 3 x 3m set with 3m along the ridge line will probably keep you dry. Just look at all the people using hootchis.
dommyracer
21-06-2006, 20:26
3x3 cotton please!!
MagiKelly
21-06-2006, 20:32
List updated and PM sent.
Paypal sent, cheers John..................Jon
Neanderthal
21-06-2006, 21:51
Could you put me down for a 3x3 Poly please.
Cheers
FYI. If anyone is interested, according to RM's website, Hootchies measure 2.7 m long and 1.75m wide and weighs 684 grams.
MagiKelly
21-06-2006, 22:48
andyn 3x3 Cotton
Biddlesby 3x3 Cotton
Buckshot 3x3 one cotton and one poly.
mark a. 3x3 Cotton
HuBBa 3x3 Poly
richeadon 3x3 Cotton
PhilParry 3 x 4m Cotton
Monkey 3x3 Cotton
raskusdrotti 3x3 Cotton
maddave 3x3 Cotton
obsession 3x3 Cotton
jamesoconnor 4x3 Cotton
sparks 3x3 Cotton
Jon Pickett 4x3 Cotton
dommyracer 3x3 Cotton
Neanderthal 3x3 Poly
17 on here so far.
PhilParry
22-06-2006, 07:09
Paypal also sent.
Thanks a million :D
Phil
Paypal sent from me also,
Many thanks, I am truely grateful!
regards
Monkey
MagiKelly
22-06-2006, 10:08
one 3x3 Poly for me m8 =)
Airmail to Sweden will be an extra £6 or and extra £9.5 for signed for. I will drop you a PM with payment details.
MagiKelly
22-06-2006, 10:36
I have now added the price for the 4 x 4m tarp. It is £55 including postage and is only available in Poly.
could you put me down for a poly one please john,
thanks mate,
MagiKelly
22-06-2006, 11:40
andyn 3x3 Cotton
Biddlesby 3x3 Cotton
Buckshot 3x3 one cotton and one poly.
mark a. 3x3 Cotton
richeadon 3x3 Cotton
PhilParry 3 x 4m Cotton
Monkey 3x3 Cotton
raskusdrotti 3x3 Cotton
maddave 3x3 Cotton
obsession 3x3 Cotton
jamesoconnor 4x3 Cotton
sparks 3x3 Cotton
Jon Pickett 4x3 Cotton
dommyracer 3x3 Cotton
Neanderthal 3x3 Poly
Dingo 3 x 3 Poly
Moff8 3 x 3 Poly
18 on here so far.
Hi John,
One 3x3 cotton please.
Thanks,
Alex
MagiKelly
22-06-2006, 16:29
andyn 3x3 Cotton
Biddlesby 3x3 Cotton
Buckshot 3x3 one cotton and one poly.
mark a. 3x3 Cotton
richeadon 3x3 Cotton
PhilParry 3 x 4m Cotton
Monkey 3x3 Cotton
raskusdrotti 3x3 Cotton
maddave 3x3 Cotton
obsession 3x3 Cotton
jamesoconnor 4x3 Cotton
sparks 3x3 Cotton
Jon Pickett 4x3 Cotton
dommyracer 3x3 Cotton
Neanderthal 3x3 Poly
Dingo 3 x 3 Poly
Moff8 3 x 3 Poly
aswbcuk 3 x 3 Cotton
19 on here so far.
paypal sent
thanks again
:You_Rock_
andyn 3x3 Cotton
Biddlesby 3x3 Cotton
Buckshot 3x3 one cotton and one poly.
mark a. 3x3 Cotton
richeadon 3x3 Cotton
PhilParry 3 x 4m Cotton
Monkey 3x3 Cotton
raskusdrotti 3x3 Cotton
maddave 3x3 Cotton
obsession 3x3 Cotton
jamesoconnor 4x3 Cotton
sparks 3x3 Cotton
Jon Pickett 4x3 Cotton
dommyracer 3x3 Cotton
Neanderthal 3x3 Poly
Dingo 3 x 3 Poly
Moff8 3 x 3 Poly
aswbcuk 3 x 3 Cotton
Gibbsy 3x3 cotton please
20 so far on here
I have updated and added myself to the list hope you don't mind.
Hi John
I was only just thinking about this yesterday and a group buy appears.
can I have 1 3x3 poly & 1 4x3 cotton
Thanks
Nick
Per question in second post - YES WE HAVE!!!! :D
Two 3x3 Cotton please.
Tired and emotional - can you PM me if you want paying by Paypal now and how much - sorry for spoon feeding! :(
Going for a lie down!
PS may be snozzled - but just remembered - thank you again for all our efforts on these group buys. Deeply appreciated by myself and many others.
Please can I have 1 3x3 poly and 1 4x3 cotton please
Thanks Gord
MagiKelly
22-06-2006, 21:41
andyn 3x3 Cotton
Biddlesby 3x3 Cotton
Buckshot 3x3 one cotton and one poly.
mark a. 3x3 Cotton
richeadon 3x3 Cotton
PhilParry 3 x 4m Cotton
Monkey 3x3 Cotton
raskusdrotti 3x3 Cotton
maddave 3x3 Cotton
obsession 3x3 Cotton
jamesoconnor 4x3 Cotton
sparks 3x3 Cotton
Jon Pickett 4x3 Cotton
dommyracer 3x3 Cotton
Neanderthal 3x3 Poly
Dingo 3 x 3 Poly
Moff8 3 x 3 Poly
aswbcuk 3 x 3 Cotton
Gibbsy 3x3 cotton
NickC 3x3 poly & 4x3 Cotton
Oakleaf two 3x3 Cotton
gordy1 3x3 poly & 4x3 Cotton
26 on here so far. I have to say I am stunned by the response to this group buy. I thought we might struggle to get 10. Anyway PMs sent with PayPal details of address for cheque.
dangerous
23-06-2006, 12:13
could I get a 4mx3m cotton tarp on the group buy please?
Oh go on then I'll join the rest of the gang ;)
3 x 3 Cotton for me please sir.
Many thanks.
bambodoggy
26-06-2006, 10:36
Oh go on then, canged my mind...I'll have a cotton one too please John :)
Thanks,
Bam. :D
MagiKelly
26-06-2006, 11:13
andyn 3x3 Cotton
Biddlesby 3x3 Cotton
Buckshot 3x3 one cotton and one poly.
mark a. 3x3 Cotton
richeadon 3x3 Cotton
PhilParry 3 x 4m Cotton
Monkey 3x3 Cotton
raskusdrotti 3x3 Cotton
maddave 3x3 Cotton
obsession 3x3 Cotton
jamesoconnor 4x3 Cotton
sparks 3x3 Cotton
Jon Pickett 4x3 Cotton
dommyracer 3x3 Cotton
Neanderthal 3x3 Poly
Dingo 3 x 3 Poly
Moff8 3 x 3 Poly
aswbcuk 3 x 3 Cotton
Gibbsy 3x3 cotton
NickC 3x3 poly & 4x3 Cotton
Oakleaf two 3x3 Cotton
gordy1 3x3 poly & 4x3 Cotton
dangerous 4x3 Cotton
scruff 3x3 Cotton
bambodoggy ? x? Cotton
As an update. I will be placing the order on Wednesday morning for the ones I have payment so far. The 3 x 3m ones are in stock so will get posted pretty quickly. The other sizes, between holidays and delivery from Tatonka, will probably take 2 - 3 weeks.
bambodoggy
26-06-2006, 11:28
So paying by paypal the 3x3m Cotton works out to £39.06 right? :)
MagiKelly
26-06-2006, 13:16
Oh go on then, canged my mind...I'll have a cotton one too please John :)
Thanks,
Bam. :D
I think you are a few pence over but that is fine by me :D
bambodoggy
26-06-2006, 16:52
I think you are a few pence over but that is fine by me :D
Lol...yer, I rounded up a bit out of politeness but hey it's still cheep so I'm happy too :D
PM on it's way to you re payment, MagiKelly. Thanks from Swyn
Barblade
27-06-2006, 00:43
Tarp 4 - 4 x 3 in cotton please.
Cheers John :You_Rock_
magicaltrevor
27-06-2006, 13:08
I'd like a 3x3 Cotton (tarp 2) if possible thanks
Andrew
(magicaltrevor)
Buckshot
27-06-2006, 14:37
Oops, just realised I need to send the cheques off!
In the post today.. :o
Thanks John
Mark
MagiKelly
27-06-2006, 15:32
andyn 3x3 Cotton
Biddlesby 3x3 Cotton
Buckshot 3x3 one cotton and one poly.
mark a. 3x3 Cotton
richeadon 3x3 Cotton
PhilParry 3 x 4m Cotton
Monkey 3x3 Cotton
raskusdrotti 3x3 Cotton
maddave 3x3 Cotton
obsession 3x3 Cotton
jamesoconnor 4x3 Cotton
sparks 3x3 Cotton
Jon Pickett 4x3 Cotton
dommyracer 3x3 Cotton
Neanderthal 3x3 Poly
Dingo 3 x 3 Poly
Moff8 3 x 3 Poly
aswbcuk 3 x 3 Cotton
Gibbsy 3x3 cotton
NickC 3x3 poly & 4x3 Cotton
Oakleaf two 3x3 Cotton
gordy1 3x3 poly & 4x3 Cotton
dangerous 4x3 Cotton
bambodoggy 3 x 3 Cotton
swyn
Barblade 4x3 Cotton
magicaltrevor 3 x 3 Cotton
30 so far. I will update the list tonight to confirm those that I have recieved payment for and that will be ordered tomorrow.
se160269
27-06-2006, 22:26
If i am not too late i would like a 4x4 Poly one if possible.
Thanks
Steve
Prometheus
28-06-2006, 02:34
Hi John
I hope that I can sneak in a cheeky last minute order for a 3x3 cotton, In the hope that it's OK I have made a Paypal payment to you straight away (for £39.50 - just to be sure) so that I can get in on this round (to the paypal payment address that I used the last time I bought from you). Sorry to leave it so late, I only just saw this one and I was gutted I missed the last one, so I hope this doesn't cause any problems :o
Many many thanks & Warmest regards.
;) :rolleyes: :D
Dave K
MagiKelly
28-06-2006, 09:59
Hard to cheeky in a cheeky last minute order in a group buy that still has a couple of weeks to run :p
I send of the first order last night but will see if I can add the two I go payment for since.If not they will go on the next order at the end of the week.
MagiKelly
28-06-2006, 16:49
I placed the order last night and all the tarps that were paid for at that point have now been posted, except the 4 x 4m one for se160269 as it was not in stock. We were fortunate that another delivery came in today so we got the other sizes as well.
The group buy is still open so anyone else who wants can still put there name down and anyone who has put their name down but not paid yet, there is still time.
Magikelly do you have any idea how long this buy may be open - just working out how it fits with payday!! :)
I'd like a cotton 3x3m one please.
Thanks for organising all this.
Wills.
PayPal sent.
well, I am gobsmacked!!!
I was awoken this morning by a delivery man at the door, trying to deliver my new tarp!!
I only read a comment yesterday that they were being ordered, and less than 12 hours later it arrived!!!
I haven't unwrapped it yet, as I am still in shock from the speedy delivery.
Many many thanks MagiKelly for the supremely great work that you have done.
A very happy,
Monkey
Buckshot
29-06-2006, 13:24
Can I put an order in for another 3x3 cotton please
So that's 2 3x3 cotton and 1 3x3 poly
Cheers
Mark
John
Tarps arrived by Citilink this morning - great service, lovely kit.
Done to death - but thank you.
Oakleaf
MagiKelly
29-06-2006, 15:42
Magikelly do you have any idea how long this buy may be open - just working out how it fits with payday!! :)
Another two weeks at least.
Buckshot, you can of course have another just send the payment as before.
andyn 3x3 Cotton
Biddlesby 3x3 Cotton
Buckshot two by 3x3 one cotton and one poly.
mark a. 3x3 Cotton
richeadon 3x3 Cotton
PhilParry 3 x 4m Cotton
Monkey 3x3 Cotton
raskusdrotti 3x3 Cotton
maddave 3x3 Cotton
obsession 3x3 Cotton
jamesoconnor 4x3 Cotton
sparks 3x3 Cotton
Jon Pickett 4x3 Cotton
dommyracer 3x3 Cotton
Neanderthal 3x3 Poly
Dingo 3 x 3 Poly
Moff8 3 x 3 Poly
aswbcuk 3 x 3 Cotton
Gibbsy 3x3 cotton
NickC 3x3 poly & 4x3 Cotton
Oakleaf two 3x3 Cotton
gordy1 3x3 poly & 4x3 Cotton
dangerous 4x3 Cotton
bambodoggy 3 x 3 Cotton
swyn
Barblade 4x3 Cotton
magicaltrevor 3 x 3 Cotton
se160269 3 x 3 Cotton
Prometheus 3 x 3 Cotton
Wills 3 x 3 Cotton
Tarp was waiting for me when I got home. The tarp is great, very very well made.
Big thanks to John for sorting out another great group buy, and another big thanks to Andrew from Outdoorcode for a super speedy delivery!!!!!
Wahaaaaaayyyyy It's here. Very impressed with the quality. Thanks for sorting these John :You_Rock_
MagiKelly
29-06-2006, 20:24
Got my 4.5 x 4.5m tarp today and it is enormous. I have also had a revised idea for how to make it practical for hammocking as well. Will post more once I have given it a try.
dommyracer
29-06-2006, 20:26
Awesome work MagiKelly.
Mine was delivered today (yay!)
Unfortunately I wasn't in so have to travel to the **** end of SE London to get it. (Booo!)
Neanderthal
30-06-2006, 08:17
Cheers John,
Tarp received yesterday. Highlight of the day seeing the bemused looks due to some of the stuff that I get delivered to work. :)
Biddlesby
30-06-2006, 09:07
Mine was delivered, but I missed it too. Just too speedy for it's own good! Will have to wait until next tuesday, but it'll be worth it.
Cheers john!
Bums! - how did I miss this one :rolleyes:
Ah well - next time!
Matt
MagiKelly
30-06-2006, 09:38
Bums! - how did I miss this one:rolleyes:
Ah well - next time!
Matt
Missed what? A half dozen posts above I confirmed that this will be running for another two weeks.:confused:
MagiKelly
30-06-2006, 10:17
Also on a side note, if you missed the delivery, you can call the courier and arrange them to deliver it on an alternative date, free of charge?
Missed what? A half dozen posts above I confirmed that this will be running for another two weeks.:confused:
Ah - that'll teach me to read threads properly - for some reason, I 'd convinced myself that I was too late - in that case, could I put myself down for a 3x3 poly please?
many thanks
Matt
Dougster
30-06-2006, 15:31
I am really grateful for this John, and I'm sorry to be negative. Is there any way we can pay a couple of quid more and not use Citilink? I have never had anything but trouble with them (including now).
We're out in the day, can't arrange re-delivery, they won't call the driver now I am at home (I drove past him on my way - he's in town).
They won't deliver to work as it's in another depot area so it's an hour round trip.
It'll be worth it when I'm out in a week or so, but give me Royal Mail and higher costs anyday.
bambodoggy
30-06-2006, 16:57
I picked mine up today too, had to drive 20 miles to the citylink depot (and 20 back! lol) to get it as they tried to deliver it yesterday and I was out at work......having said that I've not got a few things sent to me via royalmail in the last few weeks so I don't trust them much now!!!!!
Thanks for sorting it all out John.
Bam. :)
Many thanks to you John and Andrew, really pleased with my new tarp.
I have to agree with the others about citylink, I had a note from them yesterday saying phone this number, its all automated, you can't talk to anyone. I wanted to ask them to leave it with my neighbours, who are in all day at the mo, but I couldn't and had to take a couple of hours off work today to go and get it................Jon
Spikey DaPikey
30-06-2006, 17:22
Wahaaaaaayyyyy It's here. Very impressed with the quality. Thanks for sorting these John :You_Rock_
Can i have ya old one cheap now then :o ;)
Eric_Methven
30-06-2006, 19:51
Mine arrived yesterday morning. Lovely! That's Cameron and me all set up with a full set up each. Time for a wild camp out.
Eric
sxmolloy
30-06-2006, 20:22
John, can I have a 3x3m poly please? PM sent, very grateful.
Stu (sxmolloy)
MagiKelly
30-06-2006, 20:32
Sorry about the problems with citylink. I will mention it to Andrew. If you have a particular preference, mention it when ordering and I will see what I can do. Certainly I know that because of the weight of the cotton ones Royal Mail is a lot more expensive.
Dougster
30-06-2006, 20:42
No need to apologise about them, it's not your fault. As usual (unpacking tarp) your group buys are top notch and I am again very grateful.
Richard
I'm so tempted, but the missus is sick of hearing me say "That's it!! I have everything I need for bushcrafting, I don't need to buy any more kit!!" Then, a few days later, "Honey, can I buy a Swedish Snow Smock/GB SFA (Cheers Andy, it was razor sharp when it arrived and is fantastic!)/insert anything else I suddenly want to buy!" I have an Aussie hootchie, and umpteen issued bashas, so I think I will have to sit this one out.....
That is until I see the pictures of them being used by you all, then I'll probably crumble!!
bambodoggy
30-06-2006, 23:25
I'm so tempted, but the missus is sick of hearing me say "That's it!! I have everything I need for bushcrafting, I don't need to buy any more kit!!" Then, a few days later, "Honey, can I buy a Swedish Snow Smock/GB SFA (Cheers Andy, it was razor sharp when it arrived and is fantastic!)/insert anything else I suddenly want to buy!" I have an Aussie hootchie, and umpteen issued bashas, so I think I will have to sit this one out.....
That is until I see the pictures of them being used by you all, then I'll probably crumble!!
Spam that's so true.....I sat out the first buy and then saw Phil562's and Squidder's and couldn't help myself....despite having heaps of tarps, ponchos and bashas!!!!!! :lmao: You can't escape it for long..... :eek: :lmao: :lmao:
Can i have ya old one cheap now then :o ;)
you've already got one the same...Machine mart special :D
Dougster
02-07-2006, 20:59
I put my tarp and hammock in my parents garden today - amazing. Thanks again magikelly. Superb stuff - toddlers jumping in and out too.
MagiKelly
02-07-2006, 21:03
I should really sell hammocks as a toy for children. They are drawn to them like a moth to a flame and it seems to keep them occupied for ages. I frequently set up my hammock to keep my two girls amused.
Hi MagiKelly,
Any chance I can have a 3x3 poly one?
I can paypal you so can you please confirm the cost for me.
:You_Rock_
Rob
Mine arrived today. I set it up with the hammock, they are very good
Thanks Magikelly.
Wills
se160269
03-07-2006, 22:57
Cheers John, mine arrived today.
Can you put me down for a 3x3 poly please?
Steve
Thanks John I got mine today
Gord
I'm very interested in a 4,5 x 4,5 tarp, but do you, MagiKelly, have any clue how much the weight is of the poly and cotton (both versions, too compare) 4,5x4,5 tarps?
I'm living now in a small caravan with a fronttent, but it'd be nice to have some extra shelter with a big tarp like that one :). It's not raining at the moment, but I know it will rain a lot in the future here :) Also I'd maybe put it up above my caravan to protect it from the sun...
Also, do you have an idea how much more it would cost to send it over to Belgium?
I'm also interested in a 3x3 cotton tarp, but I'll let you know in a following post in one of the next days what I'll decide clearly.
Edit : it seems that these tatonka tarps are very widespread and I can get them cheaper in germany. At least if this is the same 4,5x4,5 poly tarp: http://www.outdoor-discounter.de/store/product_info.php?manufacturers _id=9&products_id=280
I think it has to do with lower taxes in germany.
But cotton tarps are not be found anywhere! I'm still interested.
MagiKelly
04-07-2006, 18:12
Weights etc are on this (http://www.outdoorcode.co.uk/Merchant2/4.13/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ta001&Category_Code=Tatonka) page.
The supplier is away till the 12th July so can't confirm postage till then.
dommyracer
05-07-2006, 19:32
Out of interest, has anyone noticed that the 3x3 'cotton' Tarp has a label on it saying "100% Nylon"
MagiKelly
05-07-2006, 22:12
Yes, some of us even asked for a replacement as we thought we had the wrong one :rolleyes:
MagiKelly
06-07-2006, 23:33
I have just found out about this offer
http://www.genuinearmysurplus.co.uk/pages/products/offers/detail/name=tatonka-tarp-2-tc/rowid=595
It works out £1.50 cheaper than the group buy price for the same tarp. I am most annoyed as I got a price from this supplier and they quoted me £35 per tarp and postage of about £3 each if posted direct to the individuals, with a minimum order of 20. A total of £38 so I went with the other supplier as it was £0.50 cheaper but cheaper none the less.
I can't understand how they can now sell them individually for £29..05 when the best they could quote me was £35 each for an order of 20 :banghead:
I'll look into this and see what I can do about making up the difference.
genuinesurplus
08-07-2006, 10:55
Hi just a reply to Magikelly please do not take this the wrong way these group buys are a very good idea the lads and the ladies get a bargain and we can shift some bulk. But when we get customers who come in to the store and ask the staff about the pros and cons about the tarps for an hour and then says he just wanted to check them out because he can get them a few pence cheaper on this forum we were quite annoyed as we have overheads and wages to pay. But for a few pence we are more than willing to give our expertice and service that is what you pay for .But we do not feel that he had to rub our noses in it.
Unlike most of the internet stores we carry as stock the tarps these are paid for in the hope a customer wants one unlike the internet shops who take the payment then order them in. And if you look on our website and our ebay shop you will see that our prices are very good and we pride ourselves on our customer service .
Thats our 50p worth :rant:
bothyman
08-07-2006, 13:16
Hi just a reply to Magikelly please do not take this the wrong way these group buys are a very good idea the lads and the ladies get a bargain and we can shift some bulk. But when we get customers who come in to the store and ask the staff about the pros and cons about the tarps for an hour and then says he just wanted to check them out because he can get them a few pence cheaper on this forum we were quite annoyed as we have overheads and wages to pay. But for a few pence we are more than willing to give our expertice and service that is what you pay for .But we do not feel that he had to rub our noses in it.
Unlike most of the internet stores we carry as stock the tarps these are paid for in the hope a customer wants one unlike the internet shops who take the payment then order them in. And if you look on our website and our ebay shop you will see that our prices are very good and we pride ourselves on our customer service .
Thats our 50p worth :rant:
So why are you now selling them cheaper than the Group buy ?? why not before??
genuinesurplus
08-07-2006, 14:15
Hi the reason that we are selling them at cost is so that we can compete on a level playing field so when someone orders and pays for one we then order one that way we keep the cost down .
This is not the way we like to run the store but if people want to open and look at and feel the tarps and then turn round and say that they can get it 50p cheaper on this forum why should we stock the item??? .
It is annoying we had approx 30 tarps in store at the time that is one of the reasons that we can sell them cheaper than most people is because we buy in bulk and sell cheaper unfortunately we can not compete with people that order the items after some one has paid for the item .
If this is the way forward in retail I think is a step backwards what about customer service and the staffs knowledge in the items they are selling.
It may be alright for someone in a bedroom or there office to leave there computer on get paid for the item then order. While they do there day job.
We have 4 full time staff and 3 part time what happens to them I think 50p is not much to ask for this service.
What happens when there is a fault with the item that you have bought all too often we have people coming into the store asking if we can replace faulty items or fix items that they have bought online and cannot get in contact with the original supplier??
Sorry for the rant but all too often we getting more and more people saying I can get so and so for 10p cheaper off the internet this is because the trader is not laying any money out he can charge what he likes because he doesn’t have the overheads and in the end it benefits no-one. :(
bogflogger
08-07-2006, 14:48
Oh so is this why you trade on ebay?
Or am I missing something here?
And as for "Product knowledge" and "Customer Service" would you like to discuss why the S.A.Wetterlings Axe advertised by you on ebay 'transformed' into a Banko Axe on delivery.
Or why you had my full payment for 48hrs without sending the goods? :cool:
genuinesurplus
08-07-2006, 15:21
Unfortunatly bogflogger i think you are missing the point the only reason we posted was to highlight the fact that magikelly asked why we could do it cheaper now and we explained that we had a customer in the store trying out our tarp before saying he just wanted to check them out before buying one off here i think we have reason for being a bit annoyed :confused: .
As for the axe it was never described as being a wetterling it was descibed as "Swedish Army Axe" quality swedish steel with an american hickory handle and the delivery was in 3 working days all for £15.95.If you would like to look at the British Blades Forums you will see that it was one of their members who said it was a wetterlings not us.Out of 30 axes you are the only one who is dissatisfied and when you brought the matter to our attention you were offered a full refund even though it was not our fault.What more could we do???
MagiKelly
08-07-2006, 16:06
I think we are at crossed purposes here. First of all I have nothing but respect for Genuine Surplus. I have bought from them in the past and expect to again in the future.
I was annoyed because the price was suddenly much lower singly that I had been quoted for bulk. Had this price been made available when I asked about the group buy I would have ordered through you as you would have been cheapest. I now understand that you have done this because you have had someone in the shop looking at the tarps and getting all the information on them before saying they had no intention of buying them as they could get them on the group buy cheaper. As far as I am concerned that is unacceptable behaviour on their part.
Group buys are not designed to be some sort of punishment for suppliers, it is just using our buying power as a group when we all want to get the same product. If I could not get the product cheaper than it is available for I would not bother. Indeed if you look above you will see that as soon as I saw your price were cheaper than the group buy I highlighted it and pointed people to the offer.
I can understand your frustration when you had someone in the shop taking advantage of your service but not buying, however, slashing your price seems to the level you have does not strike me as being a productive response.
I would much rather buy from MagiKelly through his efforts on this BCUK website than any 'honest john' on the wider internet. There is a genuine reason for this; He is NOT in this as a bussiness and consequently his opinions are not commercially clouded. The group buy thing is a superb tool for us as a way to acquire stuff that we may ,or in some cases, may think, we need.
I have a feeling that this action will become more common as time goes on. Consequently all the more power to the group buy. This can only benefit surplus bussiness suppliers as they end up selling more.
This is not a knock of people in the surplus bussiness but 'MY OPINION' before it becomes a slaging match. Swyn
bogflogger
09-07-2006, 02:53
It's always a pity to spoil a good "Fairy Story" with a few Facts, however:
1. The reason that these were described as Wetterlings Axes by a BB member, is because YOU had an ebay advert with a photo and a caption describing the goods as: "made by S.A.Wetterlings."
2.This caption was subsequently removed by you, in the period between my making a full payment to you and late delivery of the goods.
3. I made a full payment for the goods on 15/2/06 and sent you a seperate, additional, email with my delivery adress and order details.
4. On 17/2/06 as I had heard nothing from you about any of my emails, or recieved your confirmation of reciept of payment, I telephoned you only to discover, that in spite of having been paid in full two days previously, precicely nothing had been done about my order.
5. The goods did not arrive until 20/2/06- Five days after full payment, not Three days as you claim for your delivery times.
6. Perhaps you would be kind enough to enlighten me as to when your Three day delivery period starts?
Is It:
A. When a Customer makes a Full Authenticated payment into your bank account?
B. When you can be bothered to see how much interest you have made on unprocessed customer orders?
C. After you have given negative ebay feedback to a customer, for daring to point out your Shoddy and Indifferent service?
And as for customers 'window shopping' in your store, this is a fact of life in retail today, deal with it, or sink.
I don't want to drag this further off topic but I wanted to say that I've dealt with Chris at Genuine Army Surplus at least half a dozen times and cannot fault the service and certainly not their prices.
BF's obviously got his pants in a twist about the axe transaction and that's his perogative, but I have to say that's not really relevant to a tatonka tarp group buy IMO. The thread about the axes is here: http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17135. I remember it as I bought one at the time too. I don't honestly recall them ever being advertised as Wetterlings. The first few people got Wetterlings and said so in that thread (along with a tone of surprise IMO), then I and many others got Banko. Other people posting in that thread said "oh, I got a Banko", not "they said it was a Wetterlings and sent me a Banko", that's only you BF. YMMV. If they said they'd deliver in 3 days and it took 5, that's obviously a different matter. If that's the sort of thing that geniuinely upsets you, I'm sure you won't be using that trader again.
Anyway. To my point. I can see John (magikelly's) point - it makes him look a bit daft (through no fault of his own I assure you - I can't think of a better way of putting that) if a trader he approached then starts selling items at less than John can on a group buy - which should be the most favourable price - that is after all why he organises such excellent group buys. His time has been wasted, apart from anything else.
Also though, I can see Chris' (GenuineSurplus) POV - they're a bricks AND clicks operation, complete with overheads (staff, a shop people can visit) and I'm sure I'd have been annoyed if someone visited the shop, fingered the goods, chatted about them and then said, "right, I'm off to buy it cheaper somewhere else".
I haven't got a solution. I was just wanting to try and point out that there are two sides to the coin.
MagiKelly
09-07-2006, 10:48
The more I think about it the more I too am annoyed at the person who went tot he shop then bought through the group buy. They were saving 50p but after they put a stamp on the envelope to send me a cheque they were only saving about 20p. Now I do not run these group buys to make money I run them as a way to get a discounted price myself, on this occasion for a 4.5 x 4.5m tarp and to save people money. It is the fact that they are saving a considerable amount of money that makes it satisfying. Me having to cash the cheque, gather all their details together, send the order to the supplier, with address etc all so that they could save 20p seems insulting to me as well as Genuine Surplus.
As to the axe issue, I agree with Scanker that it is not relevant to this thread and would prefer if it could be discussed elsewhere.
Dougster
09-07-2006, 11:07
I can only see any fault in the person who saved their 50p. Everyone has to make a living and I can't understand people wanting to always go through non-profit systems. How can people expand their business and offer more products at competitive prices if they make no profit?
I buy on Magikelly group buys and am grateful to him for arranging them. I hope to reciprocate at some point. When I received my hammock I went to my local climbing shop and bought tapes karabiners and accesories to fix them, I did not begrudge the guys almost as much as I spent on the hammock. They work hard and don't make a huge amount of money. On the one or two occasions I have tried things on and bought off the internet I said I was going to think about it, I certainly didn't rub their faces in it.
My little brother works for a major UK producer of kit, the shop guys know this and are happy for me to try things and have him buy them. As a result I buy all my other stuff there. Swings and roundabouts - and a bit of common courtesy.
Blimey - all this grief so someone could gloat at saving 50p. It makes you wonder.....
bogflogger
09-07-2006, 19:43
Sorry to have taken this offtopic Magikelly.
However, I would like to make one final post on this issue and will then leave this thread to go back on topic.
The Axe transaction is not actually the issue, it was mentioned purely to challenge some of comments made by GAS.
This Bleeding heart sob story about being undercut by the internet and window shoppers, simply does not work for me I am afraid.
I spent six years working for the three largest mountaineering/backpacking/skiing shops in Central London, and at least 45% of customers a day would be browsing, with the intention of looking at goods and buying the best deal they could get, either in our shop, or in the competitions.
This is simply a fact of life in Retail Sales.
genuinesurplus
10-07-2006, 17:03
Hi sorry about this the only reason we answed was that we thought magikelly deserved an answer.It was not our best idea to sell them at cost but we just got our knickers in a twist .
And as for Bogflogger he does not seem happy with the Swedish Army Axe we said at the time he could have a full refund but he did not take us up on our offer .
If he wants he can still have a full refund even if it as been used .And if anybody would like to look on our ebay shop and read our feedback your more than wecome.
Just look up GENUINESURPLUS.
Steven :swordfigh
If he wants he can still have a full refund even if it as been used .
Steven :swordfigh
Well I think that clears up that.
Steven welcome to the forum and thanks for posting to John's question it's appreciated.
MagiKelly you missed a bit out of your equation, the drive into town and park so that that personb could then go into the shop and have a look at thier merchandise would probably of taken the group buy cost over:rolleyes:.
MagiKelly
10-07-2006, 22:43
MagiKelly you missed a bit out of your equation, the drive into town and park so that that personb could then go into the shop and have a look at thier merchandise would probably of taken the group buy cost over:rolleyes:.
I had thought of that but I was being generous and assuming they were in town anyway. I did not even allow for the cost of the envelope :)
Please can I order a tarp no 4 - the 3 x 4m Cotton one :) . I can pay cheque or PP please PM with payment details.
Thanks for arranging another great group buy! :You_Rock_
Cyclingrelf
16-07-2006, 09:49
Hi John,
Is this buy still open? Am I able to order a 4.5m x 4.5m cotton one?
Thanks,
cyclingrelf
can i order the tarp 4-, 3 by 4 cotton one please, i can also pay by pp or cheque what ever suits you, please pm me to let me know, as this is my first group buy :present: thank you
MagiKelly
16-07-2006, 15:33
PM about to be sent :cool:
Hi John,
Any idea on timescales for the tarps? - it's been getting on for three weeks since I ordered / payed for mine. Not desperate - just making sure I've not been forgotten :)
best
Matt
MagiKelly
18-07-2006, 10:08
You should be getting it shortly. The supplier was on holiday and returned late last week. So that is when I placed the second order as there was no point before. He is catching up with the backlog but I would expect the tarps to all be out this week .
Great! - thanks John.
Matt
sxmolloy
18-07-2006, 10:48
Hi John,
Any idea on timescales for the tarps? - it's been getting on for three weeks since I ordered / payed for mine. Not desperate - just making sure I've not been forgotten :)
best
Matt
i was a little worried too, glad you mentioned it matt.
and thats great news john, im not desperate either, just an impatient little so and so eagerley awaiting the courier. i think the posties that deliver to my area are a little worried that i am staking them out each delivery they make :rolleyes:
Buckshot
18-07-2006, 13:20
I received 2 out of the 3 tarps I ordered today.
Thanks John and Andrew.
I think I'm just waiting for the poly one now. Has there been a delay in those do you know?
Cheers
Mark
MagiKelly
18-07-2006, 15:07
I think I'm just waiting for the poly one now. Has there been a delay in those do you know?
My understanding is that all the tarps except the last one ordered will be delivered y close of play tomorrow.
Now you may be the last order (I would need to check) or it may be because the cotton ones go by courier and the poly ones go by Royal mail. If you do not get it tomorrow let me know and I will look into it.
Just recieved mine this morning. Quality item! Thanks to MagiKelly and Outdoorcode as usual for another fine piece of kit. Swyn
Mine arrived today :)
Many thanks to John and Andrew for sorting this out.
best
Matt
Buckshot
19-07-2006, 14:04
My understanding is that all the tarps except the last one ordered will be delivered y close of play tomorrow.
Now you may be the last order (I would need to check) or it may be because the cotton ones go by courier and the poly ones go by Royal mail. If you do not get it tomorrow let me know and I will look into it.
Nothing received so far John.
Cheers
Mark
Biddlesby
19-07-2006, 18:59
After being sent back and forther between me and supplier I got it in the end, cheers!
sxmolloy
19-07-2006, 20:26
Got mine today, many, many thanks John.
ATB Stu
MagiKelly
19-07-2006, 22:34
Nothing received so far John.
Cheers
Mark
I have spoken to the supplier and due to a slight mix up your poly one did not go out. It will go with the next batch early next week. The supplier passes on his apologies.
Buckshot
20-07-2006, 08:32
I have spoken to the supplier and due to a slight mix up your poly one did not go out. It will go with the next batch early next week. The supplier passes on his apologies.
OK, so I should have it for the moot.
Cheers John :)
Mark
Picked mine up at work as planned. Cheers John.
se160269
21-07-2006, 15:51
Hi John,
Not recieved the 3x3 poly yet. I take it I was also involved in the mix up you mentioned in the earlier post?
Cheers
Steve
MagiKelly
22-07-2006, 10:19
Hi John,
Not recieved the 3x3 poly yet. I take it I was also involved in the mix up you mentioned in the earlier post?
Cheers
Steve
Not sure. I'll ask.
Picked mine up. Very happy :D
Thanks
MagiKelly
24-07-2006, 16:24
I take it I was also involved in the mix up you mentioned in the earlier post?
Yes. .
se160269
24-07-2006, 19:16
Yes. .
Ok mate, no problem. Sometime this week then?
Cheers
Steve
Wettstuff
26-07-2006, 12:47
Jon, am i to late to put an order in for a 4x3 in cotton?
Mark
MagiKelly
26-07-2006, 13:18
Jon, am i to late to put an order in for a 4x3 in cotton?
Mark
Probably not. PM coming
Angus Og
26-07-2006, 13:56
There's someone over on BB wanting a 3x3.
http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22849
MagiKelly
26-07-2006, 14:44
There's someone over on BB wanting a 3x3.
http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22849
Already PMed them. Just forgot to put a note on the thread.
Cyclingrelf
29-07-2006, 22:20
Thanks Andrew and MagiKelly - collected mine from the PO today. :)
I've just seen Biddlesby's, is it too late to nab a 3x3 cotton one?
I was hoping for a 3x3 cotton one as well if i'm not too late...
Thanks
Luke
Hiya John
Is this group buy still openplease?
If so I'd like a 3x3 cotton one.
Cheers
Ray
Got mine Friday, top bit of kit. Thanks Magikelly for organising the buy :You_Rock_ .
MagiKelly
13-08-2006, 22:12
Hiya John
Is this group buy still openplease?
If so I'd like a 3x3 cotton one.
Cheers
Ray
Group buy is over for this time but you might want to try asking Andrew at Outdoorcode for a discount ;)