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As some of you might know, I'm off to the UK this summer (next week!!) to do some bushcraft ;)
At the moment I'm working on my travelschedule, and found some difficulties I can't figure out ... :rolleyes:
Schedule:
First: I'll arrive in Harwich on Wednesday 21 June at 10.10 in the morning by ferry.
Next leg in my journey will be a train transfer from Harwich to London Liverpoolstreet:
- Departure from Harwich (Town) at 11.00
- Arrival at London Liverpoolstreet at 12.33
Third part will be a transfer in London :eek: from London Liverpoolstreet to London Paddington.
Don't know yet. Don't like using the tube with a big rucksack ... :cool: It's not a big succes with lots of people and small entrance door ... Not to mention the fact I would get lost ...
Gives me the opportunity to do some sight seeing ;) And have lunch :D
Fourth leg is from London Padddington to Newton Abbot by train.
Here I plan to use the following. There is a connection an hour earlier, though it has an extra transfer in Cardiff, and I'll arrive in Newton Abbot at 16.30, so that's no good really.
- Departure from London Paddinton at 13.58
- Arrival at Newton Abbot at 16.40
Fifth leg is from N-A to Widecombe
Questions:
1. What is are the fares on the leg London Paddington - Newton Abbot?
I came on a price of 25.00 GBP (Leisure Advance A) ... Is this correct? Or do I need another ticket? (I just want a single / one way ticket, second class, with no fuss ...).
I do not need a ticket from Harwich to London, as it's included in my ferry ticket :D
2. Is it possible to walk from Liverpoolstreet to Paddington? I've got 1.5 hrs ... Or would it be mad? ;)
I know my way around a bit and have a good map ...
3. Anyone knows how to get from N-A to Widecombe by bus?
- What number? (Towards?)
- Where to get a ticket? (Station or buy at busdriver (as you can here)?)
4. Any thought, comments, recommondations, etc. are more than welcome!
Cheers in advance :You_Rock_
Try http://www.thetrainline.com/ for your train journeys.
You could hire a car and travel round a bit instead?
Just stuck Liverpool St to Paddington in Autoroute and it's 5.5 miles. I'd get the tube.
http://www.traveline.org.uk/index.htm Has info on bus, coach and train.
bogflogger
14-06-2006, 15:04
You could (just!) walk from Liverpool St Stn to Paddington, but it is really pushing it for time.
You would also be fighting your way through all the Brainless Office Drones and Tourists, at Lunchtime, in the busiest part of London!
Go by Underground!
Take the Circle Line (Yellow on the Map) Westbound direct from L'pool St to Paddington.
Be aware that there is increased Police Security checks with Metal Detectors in use on the Underground, so if you see one, approach one of the Police Officers and Explain that you have your Bushcraft Gear with you (especially Knives or Axes) and what you are doing.
I would forget about sightseeing, you do not really have the time for it and anyway London is a Stinking Pit (I live here :p ) so get out of the place as fast as you can!
And Have a Good Holiday! :D
First: I'll arrive in Harwich on Wednesday 21 June at 10.10 in the morning by ferry.
Say hello to the ferry port whilst you're there, I work with port statistics... :D
Third part will be a transfer in London from London Liverpoolstreet to London Paddington.
Liverpool St to Paddington is a bit of an unfeasable journey on foot A bit - as you say - mad... If you have problems with rucsacs & the underground, would a taxi be a viable alternative? You'd get to see the sights and potentially get a colourful commentary on the way!
I came on a price of 25.00 GBP (Leisure Advance A) ... Is this correct? Or do I need another ticket? (I just want a single / one way ticket, second class, with no fuss ...).
You may find that a single ticket is actually far more expensive than other sorts, especially if bought on the day. Most UK rail operators offer massive discounts if you book tickets in advance with specific dates of travel set.
3. Anyone knows how to get from N-A to Widecombe by bus?
I've just pulled this link off the net: it's a bit out of date but may help: http://www.carlberry.co.uk/rfnshowl.asp?L1=NEW014
If Leon's around he might be able to give a bit more local info.
I hope this is useful
2. Is it possible to walk from Liverpoolstreet to Paddington? I've got 1.5 hrs ... Or would it be mad? ;)
I know my way around a bit and have a good map ...
:confused: :) :lmao: :lmao: :lol: :22: :naughty: :yikes: :yikes:
British Red
14-06-2006, 15:51
The tube really is your best bet - 9 stops, no changes on the clearly marked yellow "Circle Line Westbound". Wouldn't cost much in a taxi though. Book your ticket on the link Scanker sent you and its £12.50 if you are quick!
Red
:confused: :) :lmao: :lmao: :lol: :22: :naughty: :yikes: :yikes:
Shut up Marts ;)
As Womble mentioned a taxi would be a good idea - as the underground isn't my favourite with a big rucksack :eek:
If Leon's around he might be able to give a bit more local info.
We're meeting up ;)
Excellent help guys, please continue :D
bogflogger
14-06-2006, 16:01
Lunch: Find one of the older Italian Sandwich Bars around Liverpool Street Station, as they are much better than anything inside the Station. :D
Or walk five minutes through Spitalfields and grab a curry in Brick Lane :)
dommyracer
14-06-2006, 16:35
Transport for London Journey Planner says you can get a 205 bus from Liverpool St to Paddington, but this takes over an hour.
Seriously, I'd get the Tube.
I wouldn't have thought it would be THAT busy at that time of day, and Circle / District Line trains are pretty big and wide compared to other lines.
ilovemybed
14-06-2006, 16:50
There's nothing wrong with walking through London, but with about 5 miles between the two the time is not on your side.
You should be able to get a ticket all the way from Liverpool Street to newton abbot which includes an Underground transfer. However, I've always found that the station staff are pretty helpful. Just tell them where you need to go and when, they should be able to take you through all the options and get you the best fare. Remember that UK train fares are ridiculously expensive so best check in advance to avoid fainting at the train station...
Taxi will also be pricey - probably in the region of £10 to £15.
As for lunch, I think the Pasty shops in the train station can't be beat!
Enjoy the trip :)
No help I'm afraid, but just want to say, have a great time over here................Jon http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6643/bushcraftersfire6if.gif
Shut up Marts ;)
As Womble mentioned a taxi would be a good idea - as the underground isn't my favourite with a big rucksack :eek:
We're meeting up ;)
Excellent help guys, please continue :D
I'll see what I can figure when I get home as I am away at the moment Johan, but one way or another we'll get upto Widecombe:D
I'll see what I can figure when I get home as I am away at the moment Johan, but one way or another we'll get upto Widecombe:D
Is that on the jubilee line ?...............Jon :D
That would make for an interesting game of Mornington Crescent... :D
Johan I will meet you at the station if you can confirm the rough time you will arrive.
I am trying to arrange a lift from the station at the moment
Johan I will meet you at the station if you can confirm the rough time you will arrive.
I am trying to arrange a lift from the station at the moment
:You_Rock_
Train from London Paddington, arriving at Newton Abbot station @ 16.40 hrs (UK time).
This is the set up giving me the most time in case I miss a train :rolleyes: Though I'm probably an hour earlier at the station, this doesn't matter: I'll just wait (for a ginger haired guy popping up ;) )
Cheers Johan, I had read the same time in your earlier post, but just wanted to make sure, I will keep you informed over the next couple of days:)
bikething
18-06-2006, 17:20
How long is your visit to Widdecombe guys?
Steve
Steve, Johan and I would like to be there for about a week.:)
bikething
18-06-2006, 17:48
if it's ok with you guys, i'll see if i can get a couple of days off work and join you.
unfortunately, can't do saturday as it's my nephews 18th birthday (and i haven't got him a present yet :o )
the days will depend on workload which i'll know more about tomorrow.
cheers
Steve
Yep, no problems Steve, it'll be good to meet another of the West Country mob:D.
bikething
18-06-2006, 17:59
I've managed to miss every meetup i've known about so far.. 2 while on bushcraft courses, and a third because i was in the lakes, so i went to the north meet instead!
Hopefully meet you soon
Steve
if it's ok with you guys, i'll see if i can get a couple of days off work and join you.
unfortunately, can't do saturday as it's my nephews 18th birthday (and i haven't got him a present yet :o )
the days will depend on workload which i'll know more about tomorrow.
cheers
Steve
Of course Steve, no problems mate! Would be great to meet you, and put a face to a name :D
Hope you can sort the work thing - and I'll see you there!
What day ?
I may be able to give you a lift from the station to Widecombe. And I'll probably pop up for a few days.
Neil
What day ?
I may be able to give you a lift from the station to Widecombe. And I'll probably pop up for a few days.
Neil
This Wednesday (June 21) Neil. Would be great if you'd pop up too :D
Thought it was next week, bugger, may have to re-gig everything , but should be able to do it.
Neil
bikething
19-06-2006, 21:16
Well that's me shot down.... apparently i'm fixing a machine in south wales on Thursday :eek:
not looking good :(
Nevermind Steve, Neil and I are about a bit so maybe next time :)
I'M BACK!!!!! :lmao: :D
Had a great time and learnt alot!! Leon: :You_Rock_
Weather was absolutely fanbloomintastic, accept for the 16 hour non stop rain on one day ... very depressing, and it wasn't even winter!!
Dartmoor is place that must be taken seriously!
Some things I learnt:
- Navigation, incl. passing (I do 56 paces in 100 mtr on level ground), disecting / triangulation, route set up, etc.
- Knots (including one for a makeshift abseil harness :lmao: )
- Axe work :D, incl. feathersticks made with the help of an axe (They are better than my feathersticks made with a knife :rolleyes: ).
- New and easier sharpening technique (I can sharpen my knife sharp enough to remove the hairs on my arm)
- Plants (Neil, I loved that long walk mate. My interest for plants is grown even more! ... I now know plant names of which I don't know in dutch ... :rolleyes: )
- Fire management ... there's a lot of wood needed for one day :eek:
- Had a trie on flint and steel
- Tried flint knapping - very interesting subject, and definately something I want to learn more about.
- Bow drill ... :aargh4: I still don't like that one, don't know - just not interested in it ... Is it just me and am I now frowned upon? ;) Or are there any others who have the same?
- and probably some other things I can't remember at the moment.
A few pics:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/ahjno/PICT0137.jpg
Neil and Leon looking for a lost contact lens.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/ahjno/PICT0138.jpg
Only found some pignuts
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/ahjno/PICT0139.jpg
Oxalis - don't eat this one, it's deadly! Looks pretty though!
I notice it's on it's side (picture) - will sort that out tomorrow.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/ahjno/PICT0142.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/ahjno/PICT0141.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/ahjno/PICT0140.jpg
View
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/ahjno/PICT0143.jpg
My basha positioned at a stone wall, that also house some mice :eek:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/ahjno/PICT0146.jpg
The small stream that provided us with water.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/ahjno/PICT0151.jpg
Me chopping billets with a GB hunters axe.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/ahjno/PICT0147.jpg
Me next to our fire. Tripod designed and made by Leon. Note the poles: made from wood ... and no chain to suspend the pots from but: (start the drums) linnen thread and a wooden pothanger.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/ahjno/PICT0149.jpg
Someone ran out of cigarette paper and decided to make a pipe ... :rolleyes: ;) :lmao:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/ahjno/PICT0152.jpg
Fungi found on roots / at base of a pine tree.
Tony feel free to use the pics if you want to.
Looks like a great time was had by all.
leon and Neil are both very skilled with a quiet authority. It is always a pleasure to share their fire.
Or walk five minutes through Spitalfields and grab a curry in Brick Lane :)
Now yer talking :You_Rock_
Strange, but true I live in Devon Johan lives in Holland and he managed to get home before I did.:rolleyes:
Johan, it was a pleasure meeting you and I hope to meet you again, I had a good time including having to make a pipe when I ran out of rolling papers:).
I can only repeat what Leon said Johan, it was a shame I could'nt spend more time out with you guys.
I have put some pictures in my gallery of our "wild food afternoon tea", hope you enjoy and come over again soon.
Neil
Strange, but true I live in Devon Johan lives in Holland and he managed to get home before I did.:rolleyes:
Johan, it was a pleasure meeting you and I hope to meet you again, I had a good time including having to make a pipe when I ran out of rolling papers:).
Fraser beamed me up :lmao: :p :D :rolleyes: :eek: :cool:
Was a pleasure meeting you too Leon, I'm sure we'll meet again: I still have to attend one of the BCUK bushmoots. So: I'll be back :D
I can only repeat what Leon said Johan, it was a shame I could'nt spend more time out with you guys.
I have put some pictures in my gallery of our "wild food afternoon tea", hope you enjoy and come over again soon.
Neil
Great pics Neil!
Thank you for the plantwalk!! Hope we meet longer next time!
Thanks to the both (actually: three) of you for having me in your country and showing me all those things that makes Dartmoor to what it is!
:You_Rock_
great stuff mate, I'm glad that it all came together. :D
Well here are a few more pictures:)
Neil and Johan having a brew by the fire
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2716/neiljohan0jc.jpg
The ingredients for the bread that Neil made, including bilberries and wild strawberries
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/2275/ingredients4rk.jpg
One of the other occupants of the site
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/4282/damselfly4uq.jpg
This was the cord that I made from waxed linen thread that was in my repair kit, it worked well with the pot hanger and the tripod
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/9031/cord6me.jpg
My hat as it dried on top of the tripod, it reminded me of the Harry Potter sorting hat:D
http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/4512/sortinghat3sn.jpg
Haytor from one of its carparks
http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/7175/haytor0hj.jpg
Johan and I in the same carpark just as we were leaving (gives a bit of scale to Haytor)
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3303/johani6nw.jpg
Thanks to all that were involved with helping Johan with his travel arrangements and sorry about the couple of days of rain Johan.
Hay Tor looks great in those shots - takes me back to a couple of fantastic camps with Leon, lithril, Moduser, Wayne Jakunen Artic Hobo, Joker...
jdlenton
03-07-2006, 14:28
Sounds like you all had a great time and i'm glad you had a good time in the uk Anjho its a shame your not going to be here for the bushmoot at the end of the month but there will be others
those pictures take me back too wheyyyyyyyyy back :D
<note to self> must get down to dartmore soon
James*
Just let us know when your coming James :D
Neil
As Neil said James, anytime it would be good to meet with you:D