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Buckshot
07-06-2006, 08:51
After a couple of years of not having a uniform for scouts I've been invited to get one so I thought I'd make a woggle for myself.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/BCUK/Mark/woggle.jpg
It's a pineapple or Gaucho Button Knot and is basically an interweave of two turks head knots. One is a seven part, six bight , the other a five part, six bight. It can be done using just one thread or using a different one for each knot as I've done here.
I followed the instructions from this book - very good for braiding knots of all sorts but can be a little tricky to follow sometimes...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/BCUK/Mark/encyclopediaofbraiding.jpg
I'm fairly pleased with the result although the white lace has darkened quite a bit with the dressing on it, it looked better with white and purple laces.
Cheers
Mark
Ogri the trog
07-06-2006, 09:07
You've starred once again Mark,
Is there anything you can't braid?
ATB
Ogri the trog
Here we go Mark - "Pimp My Woggle" :p
Buckshot
07-06-2006, 09:13
Is there anything you can't braid?
Lots ! I'm not that good !!!
Here we go Mark - "Pimp My Woggle"
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Cheers guys.
The picture doesn't do it justice really, the darker thread is a really nice purple colour. I'll try and take another pic.
Mark
lads i am looking for new ideas for woogle making have tried a couple variations over the years but am looking for something new
do ye have any pics of wopgles ye have mage
also if ye would be interested in a badge swap please PM me
thanks in advance
I used to have one made from a sheep vertebrae - one of the leaders caringly said I'd get anthrax - so I left the scouts!
Buckshot
07-06-2006, 13:47
My fathers' got a load of woggles from his days.
I'l have to speak to him....
I make the more normal size turkshead woggle in washing line. But for specials I use basketry cane (presoaked).
jdlenton
07-06-2006, 14:01
nice work mark that looks great we used to do them in the unit necker colours when i was a leader (red and black)
i also had a cane woggle haven't got it anymore would love another one i might have to go and get som willow on the way home
James
if i am out in the field with my lot i use a piece of red antler that has had the inner core drilled out
Buckshot
07-06-2006, 16:18
I make the more normal size turkshead woggle in washing line. But for specials I use basketry cane (presoaked).
We've got a load of 'paracord' in various colours cut to length but no-ones been bothered about making them yet... perhaps that will change now.
I like the idea of a cane woggle. Is that a turks head just made from cane rather than leather/ cord? Any idea of the type of turks head used and is there anything special done when making them?
James, sounds a very nice colour combo. We're an air troop so only have sky blue neckers and blue shirts (almost the same colour) so not much good really !
Cheers
Mark
jdlenton
07-06-2006, 16:25
if i am out in the field with my lot i use a piece of red antler that has had the inner core drilled out
ohh now that sounds nice i think i may be doing some antler carving tonight
mark my cane woggle was the same sort you can tye round your hand really easy i cant remeber the number of bites and leads though but i'll look them up when i get home
James
Mark,
Since there's no such thing as a stupid question on BCUK:
What on earth is a 'woggle' (I've seen your pic, but can't figure it out ... :eek: ), what do you do with it, why do you want to have one and what has it to do with the Scouts (I've never joined them)?
Questions, questions, ... :confused:
;)
Cheers mate!
jdlenton
07-06-2006, 17:05
Johan a woggle is used to hold the scalf(necker) around a scouts neck
just stick woggle into google and all will become clear
James
Johan a woggle is used to hold the scalf(necker) around a scouts neck
just stick woggle into google and all will become clear
James
Cheers James, that helps!
Now ... why didn't I thought about Google ... :confused: :bandit:
http://www.seascouts.ca/knots/images/woggle.jpg
Clears things up.
Found this site, maybe usefull for those who want to do a rope / string version of a woggle (learnt a new word!): http://www.seascouts.ca/knots/turk.htm (Seascouts though ;) :ban: )
EDIT:
Mark, completely forgot to say it looks very good (especially now I know what it is ;))
Nice one Mark...looks like the scouts are keeping you pretty busy.. :)
Looks good Mark; welcome to the few - the proud - the scoutleaders...
:D
Buckshot
08-06-2006, 09:02
This is a pic of my lad modeling it for me...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/BCUK/woggle3.jpg
You're quite right, they are keeping me busy, off to Marlow camp in a couple of weeks to do the 'aqua camp' ;)
Mark
Forgive the ignorance....what's an "aqua camp" and what activities do you cover...?...canoeing etc ?.. :)
Buckshot
08-06-2006, 11:53
It's all water based activities...
canoeing (not sure if they're open or not)
sailing
raft building and racing
rowing (or as the scout leader called it 'pulling'. When I was younger that term had a different meaning)
There are instructors to cover the sessions so we're just needed for food and evenings. We can jion in the activities if we want at cost, the canoeing is a possibilty but I'm not to worried about the rest.
I'm hoping to be able relax a little as well... Perhaps that's not the right term to use in the same sentance as 24 kids!!!
I'm hoping to be able relax a little as well... Perhaps that's not the right term to use in the same sentance as 24 kids!!!
:lmao: :lmao:
Relax?
On a Scout camp????
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Relax?
On a Scout camp????
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
I did on the last one I went on! :D - had loads of time to 'play' in the woods (yippie) while they just got on with it and organised themselves!
Mind you I only went as an extra pair of hands/ knowledge and skills store/ keep the wife warm;) but then again as DC - I was essentially in charge i guess! :rolleyes:
last camp i was on was the cuboree last week 1700 cubs
totaly relaxing(cough)
I did on the last one I went on! :D - had loads of time to 'play' in the woods (yippie) while they just got on with it and organised themselves!
Mind you I only went as an extra pair of hands/ knowledge and skills store/ keep the wife warm;) but then again as DC - I was essentially in charge i guess! :rolleyes:
<stands to alert and salutes when realises he's in the presence of a DC>
SIR ! YES SIR!!!!
Buckshot
19-06-2006, 10:44
Back at work after the weekend...
The McDonald's sketch
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/BCUK/Mark/DSC00211.jpg
Can't show any more pics I'm afraid but suffice to say they really enjoyed it.
My hammock was a real magnet for everyone and I did a bad carving of a cockrel and a twig whistle which they all loved !
Mark
Looks like a laugh! :D
I do miss my Scouting days.
Nice woggle too!!
Back at work after the weekend...
...My hammock was a real magnet for everyone
Mark
We had our District Troop camp at the weekend, and my Hennesy hammock drew a lot of attention as well. One of the troops was sleeping in net hammocks that they had made, and some of them came over and had a look. Once they realised that it wasn't as small as it looked, and how comfy it was they all wanted a go.
The thing was - they were going on about how they wanted one of mine, and I was going on about how great it was that they had made their own!
The thing was - they were going on about how they wanted one of mine, and I was going on about how great it was that they had made their own!
The grass is always greener....
Now there's an idea, get the scouts to make their own hammock (and while they're at it, they can make me one too...I still sleep on the deck :D )
Here are some of the woggles I have made.
From left to right
A piece of spalted birch a piece of sycamore branch from our scout hut land (varnish is a bad ide) a branded one I did at camp (a base I ran at camp) a piece of ash
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s269/alf-branch/woggle2.jpg
A piece of spalted birch that one of my young leaders has now
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s269/alf-branch/woggle1.jpg
John Fenna
06-05-2008, 20:25
When I held a warrant with 3rd Cardigan Sea Scouts we all made Turks Head Woggles using leather boot laces (or tied the neckers in a flat square knot) but those who went on our Mega Road Trip to Hungary got hold of some sort of tree gall drilled these out and wore those.
The cubs favoured Hazel (easily drilled out with a penknife on camp) and those who got flash aquired hand carved items made by one of the leaders - who went on to become a pro sculpter/carver - having started with woggles on camp!
I wish I had some of his work to show you as they were the non-plus-ultra of woggles!
i have a sponge bob square pants woggle, pics shall come soon, when i work with young ages and my sheeps marrow for scouts and dress activites
any good ideas on how to make cool woggles with scouts
any good ideas on how to make cool woggles with scouts
Have a look here (http://www.e-scoutcraft.com/) for some great ideas.
I printed some the info from this site and showed my scouts the woggles I have made and my ASL showed his collection and we set them a challenge to make one at home best one won a prize. Only 3 brought one some (several each) which were all good so I gave them all a prize.
Ben Trout
03-09-2011, 18:19
A couple I've done. Both copper wire (electrical laquered and tinned) 0.6mm. Seven part, eight bight and five part, eight bight.
Spot the mistake on the darker one!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/bentrout/IMG_0833.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/bentrout/IMG_1241.jpg
you've gone and got me started now!
silentbob
11-09-2011, 09:56
Here are a couple I've made. The one on the left was made from the middle section of a dog's bone (not a bone from a dog - a sterilised bone like you buy for your dog!) with the small blade from a SAK. Once it was carved I stained it with a little watered down paint then added a layer or two of varnish. The middle one is made from paracord with a reflective thread running through it. The one on the right is a standard issue plastic woggle covered in weatherproof reflective tape. I use this on night hikes as, even though it looks a bit cheap and tatty in daylight, it glows like anything in the light of a headtorch - or more importantly, a car's headlight. Makes me easy to keep track of for the Scouts and lets motorists know we are there on the road sections.
7281
Oops, can three be a couple? What I meant was, here are a few I've made...
just stick woggle into google and all will become clear
Or stick woogle into goggle... :D
Lovely workmanship, we never did anything like this in the scouts
This is a woggle that i made for myself as the cubs named me after Bear Grylls, but when he visited somerset, i gave to to him with our group necker, no thinking i would see it worn again, but while watching a clip of the opening of the world scout jambo in sweden he was wearing it!!!
silentbob
25-09-2011, 19:10
This is a woggle that i made for myself as the cubs named me after Bear Grylls, but when he visited somerset, i gave to to him with our group necker, no thinking i would see it worn again, but while watching a clip of the opening of the world scout jambo in sweden he was wearing it!!!
Have you got a photo of it Giles?
tried to upload a pic but couldn't get it to work. any ideas? its a .jpeg on my comp.
silentbob
25-09-2011, 19:26
I think, though I'm not certain, that you can't post pics direct yet (I gather it is something to do with how many posts you have submitted). I think the only way to do it is to upload it to photobucket or similar then create a link to that in your post - if that makes sense?!
thank you I will do my best to over come the problem and post the pic, but the woggle is a piece of deer antler with 'bear' carved in the front. hope to get pic up soon.
G
http://www.leicestershirescouts.org.u k/2011/07/leicestershire-foxtons-meet-bear-grylls-today-at-wsj-sweden/ the woggle is the one under the big one with the scout sign on it, not as good as my pic tho
G
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r16/Bikething/BCUK_sales/bear-1.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r16/Bikething/BCUK_sales/bear-2.jpg
Fingers crossed
It worked, See the WOGGLE!!!!
thanks to Steve for posting it on his photo bucket.
G
drewdunnrespect
06-10-2011, 11:01
http://www.seascouts.ca/knots/images/woggle.jpg
(Seascouts though ;) ;))
nothing wrong with puddleducks (aka seascouts) cos i was one and proud of it
drew ex puddleduck
I have a woggle collection including one made at Bushmoot 2011 by Dave Budd the blacksmith that is very cool. Will try and put a pic up soon.