View Full Version : Hammock underblanket --- Group Buy
wanderinstar
16-08-2006, 18:58
Well there are only two people who can answer your first two questions and they are the people who reviewed it. [I personally haven't tried it out yet]
With regard your third question, ask me again in 5 years time.
Ian.
stuart f
16-08-2006, 20:29
HI Wanderinstar i would like to order a large one please.
wanderinstar
16-08-2006, 21:03
PM sent.
Ian.
MagiKelly
16-08-2006, 21:54
Hey, the larger one looks interesting! Though I think £55.34 is a high price for me, so I definately have some questions to consider if it's worth buying for me.
Postage to you will be quite a bit extra too.
Is it possible to sleep diagonally ( so that you sleep almost flat) with this underblanket ?
With the longer one, yes. If attached the way I described you can actually turn the blanket a little as well so it is at the same angle.
Do you think it would keep you warm on the underside even in winter ? For example at -10 degress Celcius.
Provided your sleeping bag etc is up to it I would say yes but at those temperatures I would have a thermarest with me as well on the first few trips until I was completely sure. I have slept at close to that temperature with a thermarest in the sleeping bag and I think the underblanket provides more insulation so it should work but at those temperatures you want a back up plan.
Is it good long lasting quality ?
I obviously depends on your treatment of the blanket but if you are not too rough with it it should last okay. I would expect it to last as long as your sleeping bag lasts you.
Hope that helps
wanderinstar
16-08-2006, 22:38
Gunnix,
I am very sorry for being so short with you. Its been one of those days I'm afraid.
The all in price to Holland was £59.99 so I would imagine it would be the same to Belgium and I believe Magikelly has answered your other questions.
The reason I havent used it yet was that I wanted to get some reviews done on it, because a review done by myself would have been rather biased.
Hope that answers all your questions.
Ian.
MagiKelly
16-08-2006, 23:02
Gunnix,
I am very sorry for being so short with you. Its been one of those days I'm afraid.
The all in price to Holland was £59.99 so I would imagine it would be the same to Belgium and I believe Magikelly has answered your other questions.
The reason I havent used it yet was that I wanted to get some reviews done on it, because a review done by myself would have been rather biased.
Hope that answers all your questions.
Ian.
:D That was not being short with someone. You should see some of the posts I deleted before posting on various group buy threads. My favourite ones are the "I've not read the whole thread but how much are they etc etc" The amount of times I have typed "Well if you can't be bothered to read the thread I can't be bothered to repeat myself" but deleted it before posting.
None of this of course is relevant to Gunnix who was asking a question that had not been fully addressed before. I just thought it was funny you thought your response was abrupt when it seemed to me perfectly pleasant.
wanderinstar
17-08-2006, 05:24
It's all starting to tell on me John, glad I didn't wait for 50 orders. You know, youv'e missed your calling, you should have been a diplomat. Still remember your reply to Patrick.
Ian.
Keep up the good work Wanderinstar! :D :D Swyn
Ok thanks for the answers, looks great, but just don't have the money right now, maybe if they're sold again in some months.
Sorry if my questions were annoying, since I've only read the whole thread twice before asking. A third time might have been necessary. Just don't want to be in for surprises if I buy something on the internet.
jamesoconnor
17-08-2006, 13:46
Sorry to be a complete pain in the a***e but I had a look in the list of people who have ordered and see that my name is not on it. Just incase the order is not compete I'd thought I better say. Again, sorry.
Cheers
weekender
18-08-2006, 17:17
I would just like to say well done to Ian for organising this, :You_Rock_ :beerchug: owe you one.
weekender
wanderinstar
19-08-2006, 11:20
James, you weren't on the list on here as this was a list of people that had paid.
You are now on it.
The list is now closed, sorry for anyone who has missed it, maybe next time.
Final list.
Jon Pickett Large
Aliwren " "
Swyn 2 X " "
Brian " "
Don Redondo " "
Angus Og " "
Hawsome 34 " "
Beamdune " "
Grahan S " "
Soa UK " "
Colin McCade " "
Outdoorgirl " "
Phil Parry " "
PJMCBear STD
Calypso Large
Wills STD
Magikelly 2 X Large
Baghera " "
Pteron " "
Clcuckow " "
Pumbaa " "
Bikething 2 X " "
Weekender " "
Wildrover " "
Nigelp " "
Gregorach Got the sample.
Lardbloke " "
KevB STD
P@ul Large + 2 STD
Moduser Large
Stuart F " "
Meagaidh " "
James O'Connor " "
Canyon " "
John S o TP 2 X " "
Dingo 2 X " "
Nick C " "
As you can see 36 0rders. Thats 38 large and 5 standard.
The order has gone in. AHHHHHH.
Ian.
outdoorgirl
19-08-2006, 12:32
Well done Ian! Now just the deliveries to get through - or are Snugpak handling the delivery side? :)
wanderinstar
19-08-2006, 17:51
No I'm doing that,but that should be the easy bit. Delivery will be in 2 - 3 weeks.
Ian.
jamesoconnor
19-08-2006, 18:28
Thanks for doing this. Much appreciated.
Ian, many thanks for organising the group buy, I look forward to trying it out!
Ian, thanks for the PM, can't reply your box is full, just back from my hols, will have to wait till the second buy ;)
wanderinstar
20-08-2006, 13:28
Will put you on the list Phil.
Ian.
hawsome34
20-08-2006, 19:39
Ian, as well as thanking you for the effort in sorting this group buy out.
I think this is on behalf of many on here, HAPPY BIRTHDAY, sorry its a day late.
Happy Birthday,Ian. Hope you are having a good day, can you put me down for the next group buy, at the moment i,am on ship going round Landsend on the way to Dublin having a good drink, sorry i could not get the money to you yesterday. :beerchug:
wanderinstar
20-08-2006, 21:28
No problem. Seems a long way round To Dublin. West Yorkshire-Landsend-Dublin
Ian.
Ian, allways do it the hard way as,after that its only easy plus iam not doing the hard work- nxt scotland,norway,holland,france , have to try a local beer in each location :beerchug: any advice on shopping, just for bushcraft kit, ANYONE :rolleyes:
wanderinstar
28-08-2006, 13:38
Have just written all the bags for posting blankets, hopefully this Friday. [fingers crossed] Haven't written so much since I left school.
stuart f
29-08-2006, 10:26
Hi Ian, i hope manual dexterity has returned after writing all those names and addresses. I'm looking forward to getting my mitts on the blanket as its starting to feel a wee bit chilly at nights up here now,anyway thanks for the update and all the hard work. Oh i just noticed that you are doing another group buy, man you must be a glutton for punishment.
wanderinstar
29-08-2006, 18:19
Just been in touch today, hoping for a Friday collection. But afraid its gonna be next Friday, 8 Sept. Will post as many as I can on the Friday so quite a few of you should get them on Saturday. Its only a small Post Office and he cant take too many at a time. Think 44 will swamp him out.
Yes Stuart I must be mad.
Big Bad Stu
30-08-2006, 13:28
I am interested on putting my name down for an underblanket, I have no idea how to do so.
Please confirm that I will have no problems using the underblanket with a Hennessy Expedition Hammock. I think I need the large model.
Please contact me regarding the procedure, costs, payment etc.
Thanks
Stewey. :D
Hi Ian,
Did you recieve the underblankets from Snugpak?
Just wondering what the status is?
Many thanks
Moduser
You're hoping you'll have yours for the weekend after next...?
bikething
06-09-2006, 22:58
Thought they were due at Ians on the 8th :confused:
you'll appreciate it more if you have to wait (or so my dad used to say... i'm still waiting for the ice cream, and i'm now 36 :eek: :lmao: )
outdoorgirl
06-09-2006, 23:48
Yeah, allowing for late delivery to Ian's, packing and postage time for Ian, and postal delays in general, I wasn't expecting to receive mine anytime before the 15th...
wanderinstar
07-09-2006, 11:59
Sorry for the delay, did say they would be 2-3 weeks. Going to pick them up Fri morning, will post as many as my little sub post office will let me tomorrow. Will post the rest Saturday. So as it's next day delivery some of you may get them Sat am the rest should be Monday.
wildrover
07-09-2006, 16:49
Ian could you leave mine till Saturday.
I won't be able to get it till monday any way
Thanks
Thanks for the update Ian
Good of you
Rgds
David
Graham_S
07-09-2006, 17:04
i'll not be able to get mine until monday anyway, so no need to put mine in the first batch.
i'm not working next week. i might go for a night in the woods.....:D
outdoorgirl
07-09-2006, 18:16
Same for me, Monday delivery will be great...
ODG
Ian
Thanks again. Monday or whenever will be fine.
Nigel
Either day is good for me. I'm in no rush so if you dont manage to get them all out on Saturday you can leave mine a little longer.
Thanks
wanderinstar
08-09-2006, 19:38
Well, have picked them all up now. Was in at Snugpak at 0715 this morning. You wouldn't think 44 underblankets would fit in a little Morris Minor would you. I was getting worried when we got 40 in, but finally managed to get last 4 in. Phew!!
Managed to post 28 of them this morning, you may get them Saturday but if not, definately Monday.
Think you will all be pleased with a little touch I've added. Wait and see..
bikething
08-09-2006, 22:37
ooh ooh ... i love surprises! :red:
Well done Ian :You_Rock_
Graham_S
08-09-2006, 22:53
can't wait, i love unwrapping presents :D
I've just said good mornin' to the postie. Yippee! They've arrived. Thanks Wanderinstar. I love the little detail, well done for thinking of that. Won't say any more or it will spoil it for others who won't see theirs 'til Monday.
Will set it up this morning and be in it tonight and perhaps one of the children may join me. Also perfect for next weekend with Wayne & Co. Thanks again from Swyn :D :D :D
Postmans just been , so my underblanket is here .
Many thanks Ian for the group buy , and thanks for the suprise , Nice touch
Cheers
Pumbaa
Just received my underblanket from the postman, looks a great bit of kit many thanks for arranging this Wanderinstar! :You_Rock_ Nice extra touch!
Thanks Ian,
All three arrived this morning, I like the finishing touches.
Cheers P@ul :You_Rock_
Got mine today. Thankyou :D
Will give it a go today.
Angus Og
09-09-2006, 11:14
Mine just arrived, like the small details.
Many thanks
/Iain
Got mine, cheers Ian............
Colin McGlade
09-09-2006, 11:37
I just received my underblanket from the postman.
Thanks for all the hard work.
Look forward to trying it out.
Regards Colin
wanderinstar
09-09-2006, 12:51
Well, they have all gone out now. 24 actually delivered today.
Thank you all. [the second one MUST be easier]
Don Redondo
09-09-2006, 14:30
arrived this am, many thanks :You_Rock_
MagiKelly
09-09-2006, 17:13
Got my two too ;) I almost did not notice the extra touch and I knew about it in advance :rolleyes: Size looks perfect. I have tried it in the garden and it seems ideal.
jamesoconnor
09-09-2006, 18:32
Recieved mine today too. Many thanks go to Wanderingstar for setting this up. Thanks very much.
Recieved mine today, many thanks ian you have done a sterling job and i am sure everyone appreciates it.
Thanks again ian :You_Rock_
Adam.
lardbloke
10-09-2006, 12:23
I picked mine up this morning and am most impressed (especially the added extras).
Many thanks for all your hard work on this and am looking forward to trying it out.....
cheers LB
I did try mine out last night. No tarp over so watched the stars for a while. Slept really well in my thin bag. Woke up in a thick fog and everything covered in dew but the material seems to be very water resiststant so no problems there. The cockerel started at 0630 so crept back inside the house....
Today I have found a way to attatch the underblanket using three wooden parell beads and four plastic beads designed for sailing dinghies. Two plastic at each end on each pair of elastic strings and the wooden ones acting like toggles on the three pairs of web loops, one side attatched with some of that black elastic string. The midle one is on a slightly thicker piece of 5mm elastic this has to be un-buttoned to get up but it keeps the underblanket snug up underneath and streches without restriction. This idea enables it to be attatched or un-attatched quickly without knots as the plastic beads are designed specially for elastic type applications. The beads just pop in between the lines from the hammock and the S hooks so can't pull out unless you do it. I suppose an alternative to the parell beads is a trio of toggles beautifully turned or made of bone, similar the plastic ones.
Swyn.
wanderinstar
10-09-2006, 18:18
What I did with original sample was tie all shockcords in a loose knot, then got a loop of paracord about 6" in length. Fixed this onto hammock rope/tape with a Prussic knot, then formed a loop in other end [sure there's a name for it but I dont know it ] then put all cords through loop and tightened. This could then be moved up or down hammock rope to suit. The black loops on the corners are for fixing across hammock, possibly with a bit of shockcord and fastened with a springclip, possibly plastic for lightness, if you think its needed.
Graham_S
10-09-2006, 19:03
what i did with the prototype was this.
the central two shock-cords were tied together with a fig8 and clipped into the karabiner atthe end of my hammock.
the outer two were threaded through loops tied into the ridgeline i have above my hammock (it's only usually used for hanging stuff from).
that's how it was most of the time. at night i added a little touch.
the shock-cord ends with the cord-locks in the centre of the underblanket were clipped together over the ridgeline. this kept the underblanket wrapped up around my shoulders.
cosy :D
Any chance of some photos of these hanging methods please
Pumbaa
Will try to get some pictures tomorrow, but they seem to only come out very small even using photobucket...... I really need some advice here re this! Will let you know. Swyn
Angus Og
10-09-2006, 20:00
A good size for forums is about 640x480.
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/324/img012615ta.jpg
Or one you click on.
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/324/img012615ta.th.jpg (http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img012615ta.jpg)
Will try that.... Thanks Angus Og.
Swyn.
Graham_S
10-09-2006, 20:41
i should get my underblanket tommorrow. i'll put it up and take some pictures.
My underblanket arrived Saturday morning just as promised. Unfortunately the DIY Gods have been on my back this weekend and the planned sortie for a quick test of a night out hasn't come off ! Hopefully one night after work this week will rectify this. However I have managed to inspect it thoroughly through a few tea breaks and I must say the quality looks excellent. Great extra touch that adds a unique feel.
A BIG THANKS to Wandrinstar for all the hours put in to organising this group buy. Not many people would go to this much effort to source a 'made to measure' professional item like this and then offer to supply it at cost to others.
Thanks again and Best of British to ya matey !!!
Hi Ian,
Mine arrived on Saturday - excellent stuff.
Although the weather won't justify it I'll use this coming weekend at Waynes instead of my reindeer skin.
Many thanks mate, your a star.
Best wishes
david
My beautifully stuff-sacked, nicely embroidered underblanket arrived this morning.
Thanks for all your hard work.
I anticipate quite a bit of fiddling with it to get it "just right".
SWMBO said, "Mmm. Going to be fun getting that on with the mossie net.". Sigh.
Now, I can't wait for the cold weather to arrive.
PJMCBear
11-09-2006, 11:41
Arrived safely. :D Not had chance to have a good look, but will be using it in anger this weekend :AR15firin
Cheers Ian :You_Rock_
PJ
PhilParry
11-09-2006, 12:41
Arrived safely. :D Not had chance to have a good look, but will be using it in anger this weekend :AR15firin
Cheers Ian :You_Rock_
PJ
Ditto.
Just got back from 3 days in Sweden. (not that I would have had room for it in my back anyway!!) but will try it out shortly.
Thanks again!
Phil
Graham_S
11-09-2006, 14:01
got mine.
seems to have more insulation than the prototype. the extra width is nice too.
the extra tape loops will come in handy in winter. i may attach shock cord with toggles to them to "wrap around" more securely when the temp really drops.
weekend_warrior
11-09-2006, 14:09
Graham, Did they fix the "shockcord in seams" issue I had? :confused:
Graham_S
11-09-2006, 15:17
remind me..
the construction seems sound to me so far though.
weekend_warrior
11-09-2006, 15:34
remind me..
the construction seems sound to me so far though.
The two pieces of black shockcord at each end - used to attached to the hammock ring/crab etc.. were sewn into the seam panels and would make replacing them nigh on impossible short of unpicking the thing - suggestion was they use web tabs there and attach cord to those.
Ian
Got mine today and looks great the small touch is fantastic and a stuff sack too. Thanks again for sorting this out, any time you fancy a trip in a canoe then let me know!
Nigel
:D
Angus Og
11-09-2006, 15:55
The two pieces of black shockcord at each end - used to attached to the hammock ring/crab etc.. were sewn into the seam panels and would make replacing them nigh on impossible short of unpicking the thing - suggestion was they use web tabs there and attach cord to those.
They are still sewn into the seems but there are also web tabs at each corner and in the middle. I'll try and get a picture up later
Angus Og
11-09-2006, 16:15
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3314/img0083sy0.jpg
PIcture of corner..
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6938/img0082vm3.jpg
Picture of the middle.
Hope this helps.
weekender
11-09-2006, 17:15
Got mine today, once again thanks for organising that and i like the detail you added :D
weekender
wanderinstar
11-09-2006, 19:44
Weekend Warrior,
See where your coming from. But I dont recall having any communication from you on subject before. IF I had I may have altered design.
However I dont really see any problem as the shockcords in question do not come into tension once blanket is hung. May do slightly with HH on entry and egress. That is why they are shockcords and not solid cord ie paracord, so they can absorb any tension and prevent this being transfered to blanket.
weekend_warrior
11-09-2006, 20:19
Weekend Warrior,
See where your coming from. But I dont recall having any communication from you on subject before. IF I had I may have altered design.
However I dont really see any problem as the shockcords in question do not come into tension once blanket is hung. May do slightly with HH on entry and egress. That is why they are shockcords and not solid cord ie paracord, so they can absorb any tension and prevent this being transfered to blanket.
Quite correct - you didn't hear from me. By the time I'd seen the blanket at the moot, made my observations, gone on family holiday and returned the original buy had been closed. So I was a bit too late to add my $0.02 worth. Mistakenly I thought Magikelly's post regarding corner tabs and shockcord refered to the same, but having re-read it, clearly it doesn't! :rolleyes: :D
Not a problem, I can mod it myself quite easily. :cool:
wildrover
11-09-2006, 20:37
Received the underblanket today. :D
Top stuff, exceeded my expectations :cool:
Thanks very much for all your effort in organising this.
Have some well deserved rep :You_Rock_
Bhageera
11-09-2006, 21:15
Mine arrived today :D . Looks a nice bit of kit.
A big thank you Ian for all the time and effort taken to get this project sorted :You_Rock_ .
Also a pat on the back the lads who tested the beta version and contributed to the final product :beerchug:
Cheers
Gary
stuart f
11-09-2006, 21:15
Hi Ian, i received mine today many thanks, i've been out trying it in the garden and its mighty fine,the wee touch looks good to, looking forward to the cold weather now :)
beamdune
12-09-2006, 09:26
Mine arrived yesterday, just collected it from the sorting office.
Impressed so far, thanks again for sorting this out :You_Rock_
wanderinstar
12-09-2006, 18:19
Well they have all been delivered now,according to Post Office.
It has been an interesting experience to say the least, there was a time when I was thinking of jacking it all in. But I am glad I persevered, it was worth it in the end. There are a few people that I haven't heard from yet, probably on holiday.
Thank you all for your appreciation.
Meaghaidh
12-09-2006, 20:23
Thank you,
mine arrived yesterday apparently. Looks great. Hope to try it out this weekend.
Thanks for yours and the test teams work.
Meaghaidh. :) :) :)
MagiKelly
12-09-2006, 23:30
Well they have all been delivered now,according to Post Office.
It has been an interesting experience to say the least, there was a time when I was thinking of jacking it all in. But I am glad I persevered, it was worth it in the end. There are a few people that I haven't heard from yet, probably on holiday.
Thank you all for your appreciation.
Glad it was not too traumatic. By the sixth one you will hardly even notice you are running it :D
Mine arrived on Monday, thanks Ian!
gregorach
15-09-2006, 14:55
Well, I just got back yesterday from a 5-night trip out at Loch Laggan using the original prototype. It performed splendidly, once set up right. Although it wasn't cold most nights, you really could feel the difference it made - initially I had it a bit slack and got a couple of cold spots forming, so I know it works. Graham's trick of taking the middle of the side shockcords over the ridgeline of your hammock is a good one - it helps keep the blanket nice and snug. Although I was only using a very light bag, I was so toasty I had to sleep half out of it on the warmest night.
It's a splendid bit of kit, and a big thank you again to Ian for making it happen!
wanderinstar
15-09-2006, 18:53
Great to hear from a satisfied customer. Wondered where you had got to.
:( :( :( if only I was smarter and had a better job :(
Got back from a course last night to find a lovely warm and very well made hammock underblanket, thank you very much Wanderinstar for all your effort in getting this set up mate, I'm well chuffed :D
Brian
PhilParry
17-09-2006, 20:32
Well,
Tried it out last night during a off-roading event - camped in a nice little copse and whilst it wasn't cold, the underblanket certainly worked well! Was almost too hot for most of the night (until just before dawn) - had my sleeping back open all night too!
Basically followed the instructions above - the two end shock cords got secured to the hammock ring, and the others were secured to the netting "ridge line" using a clove hitch knot.
Once I'd "tightened" up the adjusters I tied these in the same manner.....as snug as a bug in a rug!!!
Thanks again Wanderinstar!
Phil
Used mine this weekend at the Wilderness Firstaid Course down at Forrest Knights.
Easy to install and adjust. I just had a single season cheap bag from Decathlon and Friday night I was so hot I had to undo the bag, similar story Saturday night.
Excellent pice of kit. In fact as I purchased the large one it would be possible with a bit of thought to use the underblanket as full envelope in really cold temps, it that big.
Looking forward to winter temps when I can try it properly.
Ian great piece of kit, thanks again for organising and I love the logo detail, nice touch.
Cheers David
wanderinstar
20-09-2006, 22:10
Hi all you happy campers,
I have been thinking about slinging underblanket. Was not too happy about idea of tying two outer shockcords over top of mozzie net line. May cause problems to edge of blanket.
My thought was to pass end of cord through loop at end of blanket, then pass it over hammock, through other loop at other side and then tie off with middle two cords.
Had thought originally to tie piece of shockcord to one loop then pass over hammock and secure to other loop with some sort of snap ring, like on a dog lead.
Also if you are getting to hot ( Moduser ) you could try loosening cord adjusters in middle to let blanket gape open at sides. Tightening up adjusters is more for real cold weather.
Your thoughts will be greatly appreciated,
Ian,
You know it didn't even cross my mind to do that :banghead:
On the subject of hanging with the group buy mossie, what i did was ran the underblanket shockcords through the hammock line hole in the net and then just retied the mossie end. Worked great the hammock and underblanket are then all nice snug inside the net.
A tiny bit of a pain to put up and take down as my hammock and net are encase in some homemade snake skins (which won't take the underblanket as well) but worked a treat.
Many thanks
David