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Calling all Landy owners!
Anyone else experienced any instabilities in their landy when using mixed crossply/radial tyres (crossply front, radial rear)? I'm not overly fussed because I'm gonna replace the two crossplys soon but it's something odd that we've noticed. Before on 4 crossplys it was rock solid at all speeds but that changed after we changed two tyres.
Great Pebble
02-03-2004, 07:23
I use hi-milers..... s
Stability has never been a problem.
Sounds excellent though.
Nick in Belfast
MartiniDave
02-03-2004, 10:28
Adi,
I've got some really cheap cross-plys on my Series 3, cost me a fiver each from a mate who's Mum had had them fitted to a defender but didn't like them 'cos it wouldn't go round corners anymore!
I find they are OK in the dry, excellent in the clag but an absolute nightmare on wet roads. I hate to think what it would be like with them on one end and radials on the other. I'd like to beplase with BFG All terrains, but it would double the value of the vehicle! :shock: #
Dave
I'm beginning to think that this whole "you can mix crossplies and radials as long the radials are on the back axle" business is nonesense. I can still hear the ads from the late 70s/early 80s in my head but I'm now sure it's rubbish.
I also think that since the Stage 1 is permanent 4x4 that this makes a difference too ... but I've not come across anyone who can confirm or deny that yet.
Basically, before this tyre swap, it was rock solid even at motorway speeds (and beyond :oops: ), now it can be dicey on certain road types at 50 - 60 mph. :shock:
Adi,
I done it by mistake on my 110 and it frightened the life out of me.
Its not only dangerous but also illegal.
Now you have a Landy you need to keep an eye open for the sodbury sort-out 10 acres of Landy auto jumble held twice a year and you will love it, its held at newbury just off the M4, when I get details of the next one I will post it for all to see. :-)
No, I've had it confirmed that it's not illegal - except in the case of temporary use spare tyres, it is illegal in the UK to mix radial and crossply tyres on the same axle, or to have radial ply tyres on the front axle and cross ply tyres on the rear axle. This applies to all two axle motor vehicles whether front or rear wheel drive.
So, while it's legal, it just seems crazy!!!!
Adi,
Its not only dangerous but also illegal.
Thanks for that info Chopper I ned to replace my tyres and I will bear that and the Hi-miler comment in mind.
Good thread Adi.
gurushaun
02-03-2004, 17:47
Adi
PM me I sell tyres for a living :cry: I never recommend mixing Crossply/Radials on any 4x4, particulaly one like your Stage 1 with perminent fourwheel drive. :evil: :evil:
Cheers
Shaun
SquirrelBoy
02-03-2004, 18:38
As you all probably know , cross-ply tyres have a near enough rock solid tyre wall, this doesnt help in cornering !! :shock:
With radials the wall is designed to `give` or `flex` to keep more of the tread on the road - hence better handling.
I had a Mk1 mini on cross-plys , it gave a really hard ride and there was quite bad tyre `scrabble` going around a tight corner - not good for the trousers :oops:
I will remember that you revealed your trade Gurushaun - next time I need some tryes ;)
The Old Sodbury sortout is a pretty good day out - but take plenty of cash with you, and be prepared to part with it.
We got loads of stuff there last year when we were kitting out the 90. You just have to know what you want, and get it when you see it at a fair price.
If you think it will still be there later, then it will probably have been sold whilst you were seeing if anyone else did it cheaper.
April and October are the months that it is held - get there early and join the biggest que of Land Rovers you will have ever seen. :-)
Ain't that always the case with a landy!
I think that the motto of the Landy Owners Club should be ...
"And you thought a Jag was expensive to run!!!" :-D
The Old Sodbury sortout is a pretty good day out - but take plenty of cash with you, and be prepared to part with it.
Adi,
Sorry I misread your post, I thought you were mixing on the same axle, anyway not a good idea as you have found to mix on the same vehicle.
As far as being expensive to run, wait until you have been to the Old Sodbury sortout, you will love it. :-D
What sort of mileage do you do? Check out some of the better remolds
I've got mine on Bronco Grizzly Claws & have had no problems. A bit noisy and slow it down a little (about 5mph) but they look good and don't half eat mud.
http://www.bronco4x4.com
or look in any of the mags.
Great Pebble
03-03-2004, 21:08
Just a notion.. Are they sized right? As a match I mean.
If you're permanent 4x4 wouldn't even a minor size difference throw off your gearing?
More questions than answers me.
Nick in Belfast
Just thought I'd resurrect this thread to say that now we've put radials on all wheels that the problem has vanished! I got a great deal on some Avon tyres (which match what's already on there) and the trip down to the NEC went without a hitch! :-D
Thanks to all who helped! :biggthump
gurushaun
09-04-2004, 13:25
Just out of interest what did you pay for the Rangemasters that you bought Adi?
Cheers
Shaun
Just out of interest what did you pay for the Rangemasters that you bought Adi?
Cheers
Shaun
Well, they'd done 8 miles from the LR dealer (new Land Rovers bought by the Countryside Council for Wales) to the tyre station where they were changed for something beefier ... I got them for £70 each, fitted.
gurushaun
12-04-2004, 13:37
Adi
You got a good deal there, :-D. New they are £95.00.
Cheers
Shaun
Adi
You got a good deal there, :-D. New they are £95.00.
Cheers
Shaun
Highest quote I got was a whopping £160 each! :yikes:
MartiniDave
13-04-2004, 08:51
Adi,
Glad to hear you've got it sorted and are now nice and safe.
Dave
For other Landy owners (expecially those still with the original cross plies onboard), I think it's worth noting that if you get tempted by radial tyres that it could cost you more that you expect.
We were sold two but ended up buying five new tyres because we lost one tyre (original equipment) on the motorway last year. Replacing all is not really something you bargain for! We also didn't bargain on some of the wicked shimmies the vehicle would do when we had the radials only at the back! :shock:
And none of the Landy dealers and garages we talked to knew that due to the change in the tyres over the years, the vehicle would be unstable as a result. (That knowledge seems to have fallen off the radar!) :wink:
Just a bit of info on something i stumbled across recently. One of the local tyre and exhaust centres were offering me a set of new (mileage from Belgium) steel wheels and tyres off a 110. 4 for £75.
If I had room in the garage I would have got them myself.
Anyone wants contact details then pm me.