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Friar Tuck
05-04-2006, 16:03
I don't know if this has been asked before so if it has my appologies. I did a search but nowt came up.
I was watching Ray on the box the other night and he had a bed roll on the floor. Now, having tried and suffered in a hammock (I can't sleep on my back) but can relax in one, I am wanting to know where I can get a decent bedroll from?
I have tried a search on the tinternet but all it comes up with is either the foam ones or the Thermarest ones. Having had a Theremarest and suffering burn holes from the fire I want a proper bed roll.
Any ideas or sites I could go on?
Cheers and kindest regards.
John
I don't know about Ray's setup, but I know what a pain it is to have a spark go through your mattress (my Fair Airic became a 'Flat Airic'!). What I did after that was to make a simple bedroll from an old woollen blanket (a wee bit of cutting and sewing - all very simple). Slip the mat and sleeping bag inside and they're pretty much protected from sparks. You can make a pillow pocket to stuff your jacket etc into as well while you're at it.
I knew I had a link to a commercial one somewhere... Duluth bedroll (http://www.duluthpack.com/product_detail.aspx?product=Be droll/Campers%20Roll).
buffalobill
05-04-2006, 20:58
there is info on the duluth bedroll in this thread:
http://bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=11338
im not sure which episode of rays your refering to but i was under the impression he used a bivi with his sleeping bag and kipmat in.
running bare
05-04-2006, 21:31
army officers used to use an officers camp kit if memory serves me and looks similar to the one ray used you could maybe try silvermans military surplus havent looked myself just a thought
We had bedrolls when we were kids that were just oiled canvas bags that were stuffed with either bracken or grass for using under our blankets when sleeping outdoors. Later airbeds came into fashion and I haven't seen the bedrolls since. Cagoul fabric is pretty cheap, folds down to nothing and since it's waterproof might work very well or waxed cotton or even a cheap tarpaulin cut up and sewn to size.
Cheers,
Toddy
Squidders
05-04-2006, 21:40
I can confirm that the duluthpack bedroll in top notch!
I did have details of another one that was similar in cotton canvas... I'll try and dig it out.
Squidders
05-04-2006, 22:03
http://www.canvaswalltents.com/camping_gear.htm
Eric_Methven
05-04-2006, 22:35
I used to use an old bivi bag (that had lost it's waterproofness) and stuffed it with dry grass on site as a mattress. Then I used a decent bivi bag on top to sleep in. When I struck camp I just dumped the grass, rolled up the bag and moved on.
In the army, back in the sixties, we used to get issued a canvas bag known as a palliass (sp?) which we stuffed with straw. These were great to sleepon as they adapted to your body shape and were good insulators as well. Basically it is just a big bag with lace ties along the top to keep the straw in. It would take half an hour on the sewing machine to make one, and calico would be a good material for making it from. A more modern one, with three layers of calico would make a decent bed roll. Bottom and mid layer stuffed with straw/grass/bracken and middle and top layer to sleep in. Give it a good paint with Thompson's waterseal and it should be good for most weathers.
Eric
Is this the sort of thing your after? http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?id=0005874513936a&navCount=2&podId=0005874&parentId=cat20144&navAction=jump&cmCat=MainCatcat20075&catalogCode=IG&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat20144&hasJS=true
Dave.
pierre girard
06-04-2006, 01:43
I don't know if this has been asked before so if it has my appologies. I did a search but nowt came up.
I was watching Ray on the box the other night and he had a bed roll on the floor. Now, having tried and suffered in a hammock (I can't sleep on my back) but can relax in one, I am wanting to know where I can get a decent bedroll from?
I have tried a search on the tinternet but all it comes up with is either the foam ones or the Thermarest ones. Having had a Theremarest and suffering burn holes from the fire I want a proper bed roll.
Any ideas or sites I could go on?
Cheers and kindest regards.
John
I had one of these for a time:
http://www.tentsmiths.com/tent-camp-accessories-ground-cloth.html
It was so waterproof, you'd end up wet in the morning from condensation. I converted it into a rain poncho/groundcloth.
PG
Friar Tuck
06-04-2006, 09:00
Many thanks for all your suggestions. Have taken a look at Tamarack Outdoors site and found a Duluth Pack Bedroll for £110.00. Looks ok (not sure its worth £110 :eek: ) and the shop is only down the road from me so will go and have a mooch and see what its like up close.
Many thanks again to all.
Stay safe and happy travels.
John
Squidders
06-04-2006, 10:07
Many thanks for all your suggestions. Have taken a look at Tamarack Outdoors site and found a Duluth Pack Bedroll for £110.00. Looks ok (not sure its worth £110 :eek: ) and the shop is only down the road from me so will go and have a mooch and see what its like up close.
Many thanks again to all.
Stay safe and happy travels.
John
John,
As I mentioned, I have one and It's well worth the money in my opinion, supremely well made, well thought out and even looks nice.
I would give them a ring first though as when I spoke to them, they were running out of duluthpack stock and didn't sound like they were getting any more in because of the duty/import costs.
Also be careful with the size, there are 2 versions and I would recommend the long one personally as you can sink right in to it if it's howling outside.
Cheers,
Joe
Friar Tuck
07-04-2006, 19:17
You were right Joe. They don't stock them now as they were costing a fortune with the P and P. They suggested ordering direct from Duluth over in the good old US of A.
Not sure if I like the idea of ordering abroad :(
Is anyone a regular satisfied buyer from America or has anyone any suggestions to steer clear of the pitfalls? :eek:
Cheers.
Johnny F
You were right Joe. They don't stock them now as they were costing a fortune with the P and P. They suggested ordering direct from Duluth over in the good old US of A.
Not sure if I like the idea of ordering abroad :(
Is anyone a regular satisfied buyer from America or has anyone any suggestions to steer clear of the pitfalls? :eek:
Cheers.
Johnny F
I occasionally get things sent over from the US without any problems. A few folks on here have had stuff from Duluth (look for threads on Duluth packs). The only "pitfall" is the VAT you get charged and the handling fee that the courier/post office/parcel force or whoever put on top. anything from £6 to £12 :eek: You can try and ask the seller to declare on the customs docket "Gift, value less than $50" so you don't get taxed. If they can send it via USPS (the American post office) it gets handled this end by the post office, who are the slackest at charging duty. Had a packet from the US this week with a £12 charge on it that they didn't try and collect, just delivered it :)
Les Marshall
07-04-2006, 21:34
I've always used a bivvi bag with my foam mat and sleeping bag inside. The bivvi bag and the foam mat were issued to me in the forces and have always done me well
Friar Tuck
08-04-2006, 17:30
Hi Les, me getting on in years would like a bit of comfort mate :D . I know I can't take my posturepaedic bed with me but I would like to be half comfy, and lying on a thin foam mat just doesn't do it for me.
Maybe I should go back to a Thermarest inside a burn resistant bag!!! Now theres an idea.....
Johnny F
Thermarest inside a burn resistant bag!!! Now theres an idea.....
Johnny F
Not a bad idea, how about one of those fire blankets that you get in commercial kitchens for pan fires? They pack up small enough, and I wouldn't have thought they weigh much.
Les Marshall
08-04-2006, 22:10
Know what you mean about the foam mat, what I forgot to say is I make sure that I make a mattress out of branches and the like and put the bivvi on that. The mat just helps with insulation.
billycan
08-04-2006, 22:53
Try RM Williams, they're manufacturers of cowboy/ranch/ bush equipment in Australia, its all imported into england. They make a roll up swag /bed roll out of canvas and foam etc it looks pretty good. Not sure on the price but i can find out
I looked it up its £293.77 you won the lottery?
Dave
I found here in Switzerland brand new Swiss Army wool blankets for 10.-- chf each at the Arsenal Shops.. great for everything... I keep one in my truck, and use them as grounf covering in my tent...
Nathan Sturgess
10-04-2006, 09:31
I have made one for sleeping under my tarp with a poncho as the waterproof outer with a thermarest and a snugpak sleeping bag inside, for warmer climates or if I'm in a tent I just use couple of blankets instead of the bag. I am just trying to find a cheap wool blanket for the outside so it is a bit more fire retardant. It works well. It may not be canvas or traditional but it was cheap to make, is lightweight and works.
Squidders
10-04-2006, 21:31
You were right Joe. They don't stock them now as they were costing a fortune with the P and P. They suggested ordering direct from Duluth over in the good old US of A.
Not sure if I like the idea of ordering abroad :(
Is anyone a regular satisfied buyer from America or has anyone any suggestions to steer clear of the pitfalls? :eek:
Cheers.
Johnny F
Johnny,
I ordered a load of stuff from them and it all arrived safe and sound... they're quite helpful over the phone (if a little laid back) and I was happy with the whole experience overall.
You do get stung with import duty though but it's a small price to pay. Shipping costs themselves are quite a bit so it may be worth either getting together with someone else who wants some things or just make a bigger order to save perhaps seperate shipping costs.
Anyway, there's a thread on here that I put up on it a month or so ago called "finally - duluthpack" in the kit chatter section. http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=11338
Cheers,
Joe
I'm dragging this thread out of retirement, but I was looking at a site and found this (http://scorpionshops.com/mod_perl/mod_shop_xi.pl?netstore=1178&ViewSingleItem=10235&View=SingleItem&expand=;/;/Categories/Camping%20och%20UteLiv;&), I'm not sure if it is a bedroll or if it is what Eric was alluding to using in his army days, but as it is in blinking swedish I can't be sure!! :rolleyes:
Anyone want to take a stab at telling me what it is please?!! :o
janiepopps
31-10-2006, 19:08
Anyone want to take a stab at telling me what it is please?!! :o
A body bag?? :eek:
I've used one myself before.. was in Yakama Washington, and it was cold. We carried our own, and just desided to pull them out and use them.
No zipper on the inside.
RB