View Full Version : 'Trangia' Clikstand Group Buy
capacious
09-03-2006, 23:36
This group buy is for the 'Clikstand' - www.clikstand.com - which is compatible with the Civilian Trangia burner, the Army Model Trangia, and the Tatonka burner (which was recently discussed to death in this thread: http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=8211&highlight=clikstand ).
Scott Reiner, the manufacturer, said we can get $4 off the price of the Clikstand, or $6 off the price of the Clikstand and Windshield if there are at least 5 people interested. That makes the price $25.95 (£14.96) and $36.95 (£21.28) respectively.
Delivery is $9.
There shouldn't be any kind of customs charge or tax, as the matter has been extensively investigated.
That brings the prices to:
Clikstand: £20.64 (depending on the current exchange rates, etc.etc., and Paypal charges.)
Clikstand/Windscreen combo: £27.14 (depending on the current exchange rates, etc.etc., and Paypal charges.)
Payment HAS to be via paypal.
If there are a lot more than 5 people, then I should be able to persuade him to increase the discount.
There are no longer any UK stockists, but the retail price was around £40 as far as I can remember, so this is rather a good deal.
This thread discusses the clikstand in quite a lot of detail - http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=11383&highlight=clikstand .
This is good too - http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=10434&highlight=clikstand .
This is my first group buy, so anyone who has any tips for me (i.e. figuring out paypal chrages) then please, share your knowledge!
Thanks,
Jake.
capacious
10-03-2006, 00:19
Those on the list so far, are:
CLIKSTAND
Ahjno
AJB
MagiKelly
weekend_warrior
fiacha
beamdune
Buckshot
halo
Blankfisherman
P@ul
soa_uk
W/SHIELD COMBO
bikething
grez
Wayland
swyn
scanker
Angus Og
simonsays
Graham_S
Count me in for 1 (one) Clikstand, without windscreen please :D
Cheers, :You_Rock_
Johan
EDIT:
If you could let me know what (aprx) postage is to the Netherlands, than you would be an absolute star ;)
I'm still thinking about it as I like the idea, but it seems a lot of money for what you appear to get, but I'm willing to be persuaded.
IIRC paypal charge 3.4% + £0.20.
bikething
10-03-2006, 09:17
Put me down for 1 with a windshield please! :)
Cheers
Steve
MagiKelly
10-03-2006, 11:03
If you read the above posts you will know that I have one of these and really rate it.
Originally I used it with a small cup and the original windshield, as you can see from the pictures below.
http://www.magikelly.co.uk/click1.jpg
http://www.magikelly.co.uk/click3.jpg
http://www.magikelly.co.uk/click4.jpg
This was as a lightweight brew kit as the trangia fits perfectly inside the cup with the windshield coiled above it.
Now I tend to use it with my crusader mug
http://www.magikelly.co.uk/clickstand5.jpg
http://www.magikelly.co.uk/clickstand6.jpg
As you can see I no longer use the supplied windshield. I find the foil one (made out of an old disposable barbecue) much better. being taller it retains much more heat and improves cooking times considerably.
So what I am probably getting at is that in my opinion the windshield can be replaced easily with a cheaper (free) and more efficient option.
That said at these prices put me down for another clickstand. I have a friend that has been lusting after mine so I can put them out of their misery.
Does anyone know if the clickstand will take the military version of the burner or the Tatonka stainless burner?
Thanks
Moduser
moduser, I think you'll find that apart from the depth of the fuel well the tatonka is prett much the same size (diameter) as the standard civilian trangia.
I haven't tried the clickstand with the military version, but believe that the fuel well has a larger diameter, I'll pick mine up from home and try it later today to let you know.
Leon:)
If I can get past my problems with paypal then you can put me down for a Clikstand/Windscreen combo.
I asked Magikelly the exact same question the other day on a PM. I'm sure he won't mind me copying it into this post ;)
The Civi burner fits in it perfectly. The army version fits underneath it i believe. I have never tried it (I can when I get home if it helps) but I am sure Martyn did. If you go over to British Blades and do a search in Clickstand you should find Martyn's review of it where he tries it with both types of burner. The Tatonka steel burner also fits in it but as it is deeper it sits a little higher than the trangia burners.
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John
Martyns post is fairly exhaustive, worth reading though :)
I've been looking at these for a while so put me down for a combo please. :beerchug:
capacious
10-03-2006, 12:50
This group buy is for the 'Clikstand' - www.clikstand.com - which is compatible with the Civilian Trangia burner, the Army Model Trangia, and the Tatonka burner (which was recently discussed to death in this thread: http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=8211&highlight=clikstand ).
I need to fulfil a minimum word count........ lalalalalalalala......
capacious
10-03-2006, 12:55
I'm still thinking about it as I like the idea, but it seems a lot of money for what you appear to get, but I'm willing to be persuaded.
IIRC paypal charge 3.4% + £0.20.
Well, errrmmmm.....
The design makes the burner more efficient, because it has fantastic air supply, and with the right pot it is totally protected from the wind and so no heat is lost.
It might be better to order it WITHOUT the windshield, beacuse then you can make a taller one to use with any taller pots that you might have (i.e. crusader mug) or wider pots, that you wouldn't be able to use the supplied windshield with.
Persuaded yet? :p
capacious
10-03-2006, 13:14
Scott has just got back to me on the postage:
$20 for 5 w/shield combos (£2.30 each)
$12 for 5 clikstands. (£1.38 each)
If they go direct to me. He is getting back to me on the costs if they are to be sent to indivdual addresses, so watch out for updates.
Jake.
MagiKelly
10-03-2006, 14:11
If he posts them in Global Priority envelopes individually to each of us it is extremely unlikely that we will incur import duty, vat or handling fees.
I have received many items from the USA posted this way and never had duty to pay on them. I believe if the value is declared as below $36 it will not incur anything. If it is marked as a gift i believe this limit is higher. Not that I am suggesting that these are mis declared.
Angus Og
10-03-2006, 14:13
You might also want to check out this link.
http://www.britishblades.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18210
weekend_warrior
10-03-2006, 14:15
Put me down for one (without windshield) please - pending final pricing etc..
Thanks.
capacious
10-03-2006, 14:32
I have emailed Scott regarding 'Global Priority Envelopes', so now we just have to wait and see.....
Thanks Magikelly :You_Rock_
put me down for a clikstand without windshield please.
thanks.
capacious
10-03-2006, 17:15
UPDATE:
For individual postage, it will be $9 (£5.22). This is the best way to avoid having to pay V.A.T and import duty, as the package value will be low.
That brings the total costs to $34.95 (£20.64 roughly) for the clikstand, and $45.95 (£27.14 roughly) for the combo.
There is very little chance, according to MagiKelly, that you'll all have to pay V.A.T and import duty, so it looks like posting to individual addresses is the best option.
There are 5 for the clikstand without windshield, so I'll start making arrangements for payment.
In the meantime, we need 2 more for the combo, and then we can get it moving.
Jake.
weekend_warrior
10-03-2006, 17:30
Cool - I'll definitely have the clickstand please!! Just let me know who to pay.. :D
Thanks - :You_Rock_
Hello capacious. Please can you put me down for a combo. Thanks from Swyn
PS I have sent PM re this, ta, S.
I'll have a combo too please capacious, so hopefully that's the numbers you need to start.
Cheers.
capacious
10-03-2006, 19:50
I'll have a combo too please capacious, so hopefully that's the numbers you need to start.
Cheers.
Woohoo, yep it sure is.
I'll give it until sunday for anyone else who wants one, and then I'll order them. In the meantime, I best organise the payment :D
Thanks everyone for making this easy(ish) on me!
Jake.
beamdune
10-03-2006, 19:51
Jake
One for me please (just the clikstand - no windshield)
Cheers
Buckshot
10-03-2006, 20:15
One for me please - no wind guard
Angus Og
10-03-2006, 21:08
One combo for me please. :D
For individual postage.
err late again :rolleyes: can i have one without the wind shield if poss please
halo :D
Blankfisherman
11-03-2006, 11:04
Can you put me down for 1 clikstand without the windshield please.
Tom
simonsays
11-03-2006, 11:27
Could you put me down for the combo please. Too good to miss at that price!
Cheers,
Simon
Jake,
Please can you add me to the list for one clikstand (No windshield).
Thanks, P@ul
May I have a solus Clikstand please (no windshield...)?
How do we go about paying you? :You_Rock_
Graham_S
12-03-2006, 23:45
if i'm in time, put me down for a combo please.
capacious
13-03-2006, 11:44
Ok,
Sorry everone who missed out, but I'm trying to keep this as simple as possible for me and everyone else, so the Group buy is now CLOSED.
Ahjno, AJB, MagiKelly, weekend_warrior, fiachia, beamdune, Buckshot, halo, Blankfisherman, P@ul, soa_uk, bikething, Grez, Wayland, swyn, Angus Og, scanker, simonsays, Graham_S. You will all be getting PM's today.
Thanks,
Jake.
Cheers for sorting this out Jake :You_Rock_
Yes,thanks for your attention Capacious. Swyn :cool:
Ok,
Sorry everone who missed out, but I'm trying to keep this as simple as possible for me and everyone else, so the Group buy is now CLOSED.
Ahjno, AJB, MagiKelly, weekend_warrior, fiachia, beamdune, Buckshot, halo, Blankfisherman, P@ul, soa_uk, bikething, Grez, Wayland, swyn, Angus Og, scanker, simonsays, Graham_S. You will all be getting PM's today.
Thanks,
Jake.
hi jake,this might just be me being a dummie not quite sure i understand your post,not recieved a pm so asume we've missed out if so not to worry thanks for trying. :)
halo
I wouldn't worry yet halo - I haven't had a PM either and I'm fairly sure I was included....
capacious
13-03-2006, 21:27
Hey halo, sorry no PM yet - I'm still waiting on Scott. He's usually very quick in replying, so I guess he has Mondays off.
Scanker, don't worry, I havn't forgotten about you :p .
If he dosn't reply today, then you'll all be getting your PM's when/if he does....
Thanks,
Jake.
weekend_warrior
13-03-2006, 21:30
:D ...if he's got any sense, he's out back with his tin snips and hole punch banging out few stands... :D
capacious
13-03-2006, 21:36
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Hi Jake,
Paid and PM sent,
Thank you so much for your efforts in organising this.
Andy
MagiKelly
15-03-2006, 12:05
Hi Jake,
Paid and PM sent,
Thank you so much for your efforts in organising this.
Andy
What he said ( I was going to say Ditto but it is below the minimum post limit:rolleyes: )
capacious
15-03-2006, 12:09
All PM's now sent (God, that took ages).
Thanks guys,
Jake.
A bit late now, but you've seen this I presume?
You may send up to 5 messages at a time.
Separate multiple user names with ';'
capacious
15-03-2006, 12:38
Yeah, I tried that, but it didn't work. is it ';' or just ;?
Never mind, they're all out now anyway :D
I can't wait... I want it now!!!!! :red: :rolleyes:
paypal and pm sent.
thanks very much for organising this.
A.
Excellent work Jake. Rep points all round I should say. :You_Rock_
Money sent, and all requested info passed to you Capacious. THANKS, from Swyn :beerchug:
bikething
16-03-2006, 08:49
All paid, and info sent!
Have some rep! :You_Rock_
cheers
Steve
Blankfisherman
16-03-2006, 09:06
Money sent and pm on its way.
Thanks
Tom
payment and pm sent,thank's for sorting this jake :You_Rock_
halo
Angus Og
16-03-2006, 18:35
PP and PM sent.
Thanks mate. :You_Rock_
Both Paypal and PM sent...
Cheers..
Paypal & PM sent, Thanks
P@ul
Due to bank / PP troubles the wait is for (on?) me I'm afraid ... :o
I humbly ask for forgiveness - I'm right on it to sort it .
:argue: :rant: :cop: :BlueTeamE
Normally you don't have to wait on me!!
I'm terribly sorry guys - it'll be sorted ASAP (matter of hours, not days ;)) so we can have a play with our new toys
Johan :(
capacious
17-03-2006, 21:59
Don't worry about it - paypal is a bugger.
No sweat,
Jake.
Hi All,
I just got this from Pay Pal
"Two days ago you sent a payment to payment@clickstand.com. This payment is still unclaimed. Often, unclaimed payments are a result of a payment being sent to a misspelled or otherwise incorrect email address. Please double-check to make sure you sent your payment to the intended recipient's correct email
address."
Any thoughts?
Andy
capacious
20-03-2006, 11:32
PM sent...
Hi,
Resent, sorry for the error
AJB
capacious
20-03-2006, 12:26
No worries,
Jake.
All troubles sorted :D
PP & PM sent!
ooooh joy :p ;)
Johan
post # 501 ... almost a spammer :lmao:
capacious
20-03-2006, 21:56
Good news everyone:
Scott has shipped the clikstands! 3-6 days for delivery, we'll all have our new toys by the start of next week at the latest! :D :red:
Thankyou all for participating, I hope you enjoy your clikstands.
Scott says if anyone has any questions/bugs about the products or just some feedback for him, then don't hesitate to contact him at info@clikstand.com
Thanks all,
Jake.
Hi Jake,
Many thanks for all your hard work.
Andy
hi jake recieved my clikstand this morning :red: :red: :red: :headbang: :You_Rock_
cheers for sorting this,brewed up three times with it already,and not even left my back garden yet :D ,anyone for a brew :lmao: :lmao: :cool:
halo
capacious
24-03-2006, 14:59
Hey,
Just got mine too. I have to say I'm rather miffed (I can't swear on the forum....) that he charged $9 for postage when it only cost $5.25. Global priority envelopes must be hellish expensive.
Still, it's a great piece of kit, and at £20.54 it was a bargain. I've only had one brew on it - I've got some catching up to do :p
I'm glad you like it,
Jake.
arrived this morning. going to break it in over the weekend.
thanks again for setting this up.
Adrian.
MagiKelly
24-03-2006, 18:23
Got mine too and really pleased there was no duty. I would have hated to have given the advice and we still got hit.
Even with the postage it was still good value so don't get too stressed about it Jake and thanks again for your efforts on this. Your first group buy is always the worst ;)
Hi Jake,
Just got home to find mine had also arrived today. Thanks very much for all your hard work, hope this was just the first of many group buys.
Cheers, P@ul
capacious
24-03-2006, 21:27
Hi Jake,
hope this was just the first of many group buys.
Cheers, P@ul
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Not a chance... :p
MagiKelly
24-03-2006, 23:02
Not a chance... :p
I said that one,.......................... ......... no wait twice.................... actually I say it every time :rolleyes:
Graham_S
24-03-2006, 23:09
you're just a sucker for punishment :D
capacious
25-03-2006, 00:35
you're just a sucker for punishment :D
I feel there should be a joke in there about being bound and gagged with willow-bark cord and forced to watch Ray Mears whip Mors Kochanski with a wet Swanndri, but I'm afraid I can't quite see it...
bikething
25-03-2006, 11:50
I feel there should be a joke in there about being bound and gagged with willow-bark cord and forced to watch Ray Mears whip Mors Kochanski with a wet Swanndri, but I'm afraid I can't quite see it...
I'd be very worried if you COULD see it :eek:
Mine arrived in this mornings post. Thankyou again :D
beamdune
26-03-2006, 17:14
Mine arrived at some point this weekend whilst I was away - felt obliged to use it instead of the kettle to make a cup of tea when I got home.
This is a very well made (and shiny) piece of kit :cool:
Blankfisherman
27-03-2006, 08:41
I picked mine up today - excellent cant wait to use it.
Many many thanks capacious
Tom
bikething
27-03-2006, 13:18
Mine's not arived yet :(
Patience, young bushwalker....
neithers mine :( :( :(
I may have to scream until I'm sick!
Mine not arrived either yet... :(
Maybe tomorrow :)
Still waiting too..... :(
Angus Og
28-03-2006, 18:29
Sorry guys but mine arrived this morning. :D It was posted on the 23rd of March if that helps.
It’s a great bit of kit surprised at how light it is.
Thanks for all the work and time you put into this capacious. :You_Rock_
It’s arrived.
Brilliant, thank you very much.
Andy
Graham_S
29-03-2006, 21:35
mine hasn't shown up either. maybe tomorrow.
weekend_warrior
29-03-2006, 21:38
Mine arrived!
Mines still not arrived but its only just been 6 working days...
simonsays
30-03-2006, 18:41
Mines still not arrived but its only just been 6 working days...
Dont worry, no sign of mine either. Maybe tomorrow :rolleyes:
simon
Still no sign here, is anyone else still waiting? :dunno:
Mine arrived. I was away last week and it was waiting for me when I went to work today. I've already used it too.
Big thanks to Capacious for sorting this out. :You_Rock_
Still no sign here, is anyone else still waiting? :dunno:
Still no sign here either!! :(
bikething
03-04-2006, 22:41
nothing here yet :(
Jake you have a PM re clikstand, Please attend to this ASAP.
Mine arrived a few days back...
Graham_S
04-04-2006, 12:59
mine hasn't turned up either.
maybe they're going out in batches?
Mine arrived this morning, but I got stung by customs for £4.31 and then by royal mail for another £4.00
beamdune
04-04-2006, 14:15
Mine arrived this morning, but I got stung by customs for £4.31 and then by royal mail for another £4.00
What was the value declared on the packet?
What was the value declared on the packet?
$45 I think.
MagiKelly
04-04-2006, 15:25
Mine arrived this morning, but I got stung by customs for £4.31 and then by royal mail for another £4.00
I am really surprised at that with a global priority envelope. Has anyone else been hit when the value was shown as $45
beamdune
04-04-2006, 16:11
$45 I think.
I'm sure mine said $30 (or roundabouts) for just the clikstand - did you get a windshield as well?
$30 dollars comes to just less than £18 (which is when UK customs might get interested.)
I though maybe you'd got 'done' wrongly but after reading Scankers comment below I think you were just unlucky it got noticed (or rather he was lucky)
I bought the windshield too and the customs declaration said $43. Thankfully I wasn't bothered by any Customs charges.
I did order both the clikstand and the windshiled.
I'm not bothered, about the charges but looking at the date stamps, it looks like its been with customs for around a week. :D
simonsays
04-04-2006, 18:58
I am really surprised at that with a global priority envelope. Has anyone else been hit when the value was shown as $45
I did, must be born lucky :rolleyes:
I've emailed clikstand to try and negotiate a bit of a refund as they erred when they marked the parcels value.
simon
Bumblebee
04-04-2006, 23:27
Just a heads up regarding customs: The upper limit is 18GBP for merchandise and 36GBP for gifts.
Still waiting...... :dunno:
capacious
05-04-2006, 13:15
Hey guys,
I don't know what's going on here.
Some of the packages were mis-labelled at higher values than they actually were, which has attracted the (rather unwanted) attention of customs. If this applies to you, then contact Scott at info@clikstand.com and get it sorted.
As for the packages that have yet to arrive - my only guess is that HMCE or Royal Mail still have them. As far as I know, Scott posted them all out at the same time, but I'll check this for you.
Swyn - I got your email but not your PM, so if you could send that again, that'd be great.
Sorry I havn't been online sooner, but I've been having troubles with the wireless network at home, so I havn't been able to do anything online.
If anyone has any specific questions/bugs then PM me and I'll do my best to get them sorted.
I'm really sorry this has gotten so messed up for so many of you.
Jake.
Hey don't worry about it. Life is what happens while you're making other plans.
bikething
05-04-2006, 17:42
...Some of the packages were mis-labelled at higher values than they actually were, which has attracted the (rather unwanted) attention of customs.....Jake.
Got mine this morning, along with customs charges! (£4.31 +£4 for royal mail :( )
posted 20/03/2006 - cleared primary customs 27/03/2006.
Charges sticker dated 31st March 2006 !!
Just out of interest, what should the correctly labelled values have been?
still only £35.31 total for cooker and windshield, so still a good price IMO.
Thanks for organizing this Jake :You_Rock_
Hi Jake, Reply sent...... Will it get there this time :D :D !!
capacious
06-04-2006, 12:13
The value should have been recorded at $34.95 for the clikstand combo, which is just above the threshold for customs charges, but they would've been less if it was declared properly.
If anyone has any major bugs about this, then they can take it up with Scott at info@clikstand.com .
Jake.
It is a bit of a shame, I only ordered the windshield for completness and I probably wouldn't if I'd known I was going to be clobbered by VAT.
Still it's no major hassle, the price is still ok.
I'll just be glad to finally get the thing. :cool:
Graham_S
06-04-2006, 17:43
i got a note from the post office this morning.
£8.31 customs charge. :(
i'll pick it up tomorrow and see what the label says.
MagiKelly
06-04-2006, 23:21
I feel dreadful now. It was me who suggested the use of Global Priority envelopes as these would not attract charges and it seems that most people are getting hit.
Sorry folks.
Graham_S
07-04-2006, 10:44
to be fair, i'm probably still ahead of the game ordering from abroad. i've still saved plenty.
capacious
07-04-2006, 12:05
Magikelly - don't worry about it: Scott only sent the clikstands by Global Priority, not the windshield/combos. He sent them in their normal packaging to save on the postage, because Global Priority packaging has a flat rate charge depending on the size of the box used, which meant that it would've cost more to send it by by Global Priority than it would normally.
Whether or not it would've made a difference regarding customs charges we will never know, but I have a feeling that there would've been charges anyway, just because of the value.
Jake.
MagiKelly
07-04-2006, 12:39
At least that makes sense now. I could just not understand how all the combos were getting hit in a Global Priority envelope. One I could understand but so many was really strange.
As I say all makes sense now.
Ok. Mines arrived now.
Yes I did cop the VAT charge and actually I don't think I'll be using the windshield with the clickstand.
However it is just right for my ultralight, solid fuel set up so all's well that ends well.
Thanks for your work on this GB. Jake, I'm quite happy with what I've got. :You_Rock_
Graham_S
07-04-2006, 15:52
the clikstand will fit in nicely with my cooking gear.
i'm going to try it out properly at the weekend but it looks good so far.
the windshield on its own will work well with my mini trangia.
a good buy. well done.
capacious
10-04-2006, 09:26
OK, so has everyone got theirs now?
If you havn't got yours yet, reply here or drop me a PM.
Thanks,
Jake.
I'm still waiting (very patiently :red: ) on mine Jake, it must be legging its way to NL :D :lmao: ;)
Hello everybody,
I wanted to thank you all for your orders and sincerely apologize for any problems you have encountered. We double checked everything before shipping, but it appears that there were still some mixups somehow. I also wanted to apologize for any unnecesarry customs charges you may have incurred due to us shipping the combos via standard mail rather than Global Priority. Please feel free to contact me regarding these issues if you are unhappy with your purchase (info@clikstand.com) and we can work something out. Customer satisfaction is our number one concern. Also, feel free to contact us with feedback or questions at any time. Thank you again.
Scott Reiner
Ursa Design
Hi Scott,
I can’t speak for anyone else, but I’m delighted with my purchase.
Many Thanks
Andy
I'm still waiting (very patiently :red: ) on mine Jake, it must be legging its way to NL :D :lmao: ;)
I'm still doing the same :(
Good news is my dry bags arrived from MagiKelly :D :rolleyes:
Good morning Ahjno.
PM on it's way to you.
Regards from Swyn.
Good afternoon Ahjno. 'e' mail on it's way to you re package. Regards from Swyn.