Which day pack?

[Geoffrey_Bubbles]

Hi all, can anyone recommend a good daypack for me?

There seems to be about a million on the market and most I like the look of don't appear to have a very good back system and I hate sweaty back syndrome! Some appear to also be very much geared towards city use (i.e have lots of internal pen loops and mp3 player slots) which I'm not after and will just annoy me!

Was thinking something around 20-30litres as I won't be using it to carry overnight gear, really will just be for a day in the woods type thing.

Don't want to break the bank either, so if anyone can recommend the cheapest place to get said pack/s it would also be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Geoff

[Spacemonkey]

I had an excellent pack made by Le Fumier, which for some reason I thought was Canadian. Anyway, it had an external wire frame on the back which meant that only the top of the shoulders and base of spine was in contact with the bag. This was truly excellent on hot days if you didn't wasnt to sweat. Trouble is, the dog ate it, and I've never found them for sale anywhere since. Got it in Croydon in 2001, but shop now gone.

Not much help, but if you can find one, you will not be disappointed!!

ps, cheap as well.

[Nemisis]

What about the daysack made up from PLCE side pouches? 20 litres no frame but has a waistbelt very lightweight when empty. I've threaded shock-cord through the back loops with a cord lock to carry wet weather gear also two smaller shock-cord/cordlock loops as pole carriers. Give Kev at endicotts a call under £20 posted as I recall.
Dave.

[Blackthorn]

Berghaus currently sell a 35 litre sack which has expandable side pockets that give you an extra 8 litres if you ever need it.

Important thing for you though is that it has a similar backing system to the one mentioned earlier. A sort of mesh suspension system which keeps the bulk of the pack away from your back and lets it vent to prevent a lot of sweating.

I bought one for my wee sister at xmas and i havent heard any complaints.

I will try to put a link below. Its called the Freeflow. Bit pricey though. Think i paid £60/£65 for it.

http://www.berghaus.com/index.asp?bhcd2=1140913772

[tomtom]

I have a karrimor saber 30 and i have to say i have found it to be spot on for days in the woods even a night or two out if your traveling very light!

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=4018&highlight=karrimor+saber

[Blackthorn]

The sack i mentioned is the Berghaus Freeflow 35 + 8

Hopefully pictured below.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f197/Blackthornphotos/FreeflowPlus358.jpg

[Blackthorn]

I have a karrimor saber 30 and i have to say i have found it to be spot on for days in the woods even a night or two out if your traveling very light!

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=4018&highlight=karrimor+saber

Tomtom,

I definetly like that sack. Seems to be in favour with a lot of people on this site. In terms of a bushcraft daysac i suppose it is a better choice than my Berghaus suggestion if only by virtue of the fact that it will blend in a bit bettter. Its probably also a really good sac though in general as well.

My packs at present are all bright red or blue mixed with black coz im coming from a hill walking/mountaineering background. But i sort of now recognise how handy it would be to have one of those Karrimors even if it was just to organise my Bushcraft stuff. Am i convincing you? Coz im trying to convince myself that i need it, especially at that price.

Living in Ireland though. Do they do mail order or have a website?

[Spacemonkey]

My mistake, it was Lafuma. I knew it was something like that...

[pierre girard]

Hi all, can anyone recommend a good daypack for me?

There seems to be about a million on the market and most I like the look of don't appear to have a very good back system and I hate sweaty back syndrome! Some appear to also be very much geared towards city use (i.e have lots of internal pen loops and mp3 player slots) which I'm not after and will just annoy me!

Was thinking something around 20-30litres as I won't be using it to carry overnight gear, really will just be for a day in the woods type thing.

Don't want to break the bank either, so if anyone can recommend the cheapest place to get said pack/s it would also be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Geoff


Not cheap, but some very good day packs:

http://www.duluthpack.com/product_detail.aspx?product=Wa nderer

http://www.frostriver.com/day_packs/knapsack.html

http://www.frostriver.com/day_packs/daypacks.html

http://www.duluthpack.com/product_detail.aspx?product=Ra mbler

http://www.duluthpack.com/product_detail.aspx?product=Sp arky%20Bag

PG

[Rob84]

I hear good thing about the Forces 33 and there only £25


www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=3709&highlight=highlander+forces


Rob

[Spacemonkey]

Yes they are and I use one as an everyday sack, but they do not alleviate sweaty back syndrome. Pack anything in it and it's flat against the back. If you really don't want sweat then it's got to be one of those airflow types that keep the pack off the back.

[mercury]

I have a forces 33 and it does have an airflow back

I got it from http://www.armynnavy.com/catalog/catalog/default.php/cPath/240?osCsid=974a22aaf479ec5eaac 6241a94a1eb7b

and I believe there was no postage charge

[tomtom]

You might want to check this one out too!
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=3709

[Hoodoo]

Was thinking something around 20-30litres as I won't be using it to carry overnight gear, really will just be for a day in the woods type thing.


I have been very happy with the Kelty Redtail 1600. I have two of them, one for my car and one for my truck and keep them equipped for dayhikes. My idea of a good dayhike pack is one just big enough to carry enough gear for an unplanned overnighter. My shelter of choice is an All Weather Space Blanket.

It will carry all the gear I need for any day hike I normally do with plenty of room left over. My philosophy on day packs is that if you need a padded hip belt, then you've got way too much gear for a dayhike. The exception to that is when I have to carry a bunch of gear for other reasons besides just having an enjoyable day hike. Then I go to a larger pack.

The Redtail is light, comfortable, and will carry all the gear you need for most day hikes. The other thing I like about the Redtail is that you can usually find it cheap.

http://www.mountainsports.com/images/081306lg.jpg


Redtail (http://www.mountainsports.com/mssearch.asp?Option=Detail&Detail=081306)

Another great dayhike pack is the German Army Surplus pack. I've been using one all winter for a book bag. Just super! And cheap. I bought 4 of them (when they were $15!) and use them to store gear in when I travel. For $20, they are an incredible deal.

German Ruck Sack (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0026022516442a&type=product&cmCat=search&returnString=QueryText=surplus&Ntk=Products&_D%3AhasJS=+&Go.y=14&Nty=1&hasJS=true&No=20&Ntt=surplus&noImage=0&Ntx=matchall&N=4887&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommo n%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.22&Go.x=19&returnPage=search-results1.jsp)

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/Item/51/64/42/i516442sq01.jpg

[Spacemonkey]

I have a forces 33 and it does have an airflow back



Yes it does, but it doesn't bloody work!! ;) Great bags though and truly excellent value.

If you try one of those aeroflow type backs it would be like achieving nirvana on hot sunny days.

[Nemisis]

I liked the german army surplus bag too the only problem was the postage to uk was same price as the bag. Then there would have been customs duty added to that.
Dave

[bloodline]

Geof the sergeants mess in Chatham have all sizes of the Highlander range Ive got a 35lt one and cant fault it and they are near to you.They have green or camo. I like the fact the side pockets are desinged to take the army water bottle.
good luck with the search :)

[Geoffrey_Bubbles]

Cheer for all that, I think I may of accidentally replied to one of the links as opposed to my own original thread :o

Anyhoo, thanks for that, I'm gonna take a look for a Saber 30 if I can get one for less than £40 then that is what I will defo buy, but otherwise I will check out some of the alternatives and if I can't find anyhting I like I will probably get the Berghause Freeflow pack.

Bloodline, where abouts in Chatham is the sergents mess? Never heard of it and I don't get down into Chatham very often. I assume by the name that is a military store?

Cheers all

Geoff

[Geoffrey_Bubbles]

Can't find a Saber 30 online anywhere, but have found these interesting options :-

http://mountainwarehouse.com/shop/product/products_id/2190.html

http://mountainwarehouse.com/shop/product/products_id/2616.html

http://mountainwarehouse.com/shop/product/products_id/2401.html

All are Karrimor and have cool back systems, but in the end went for this :-

http://mountainwarehouse.com/shop/product/products_id/2572.html

Thought for £7 you just couldn't go wrong, can't wait to show it off at the next Kent meet at Kings Wood.....

I'll get my hat :lmao:

Geoff

[tomtom]

Geoffrey this is the only place i know of you can get them (online or off) appart from PRI who i understand dont deal to the public?

http://www.johnbullclothing.com/karrimor.asp

[tagnut69]

I have a Berghaus Monro, expensive but realy cant fault it. it is prety bomb proof and at 35 liters can hold every thing I need for a day out.

[capacious]

This is the perfect one for you. The external frame keepes the back of the sack well away from your body, so no sweaty back. It is actually fantastically comfortable, even when it is heavy (I have had 20kilos in it, mostly water, and it was remarkably comfortable). And it is dirt cheap.

http://www.surplusandadventure.com/ishop/800/shopscr2592.html

Or, you could take a look in the 'member classifieds' section. I believe there is currently a great deal on a berghaus 49zero :rolleyes: ......

[martin]

Swedish army 35litre rucksack, cheap as chips, external metal frame and bombproof. Great for a day in the woods 'cos they're fairly narrow and they're comfy. Can be used for an overnighter if you wrap your sleeping bag in your bivvy bag and strap it to the top.
Have a look here (http://www.airsoftadventure.co.uk/ishop/1066/shopscr589.html)

[Geoffrey_Bubbles]

http://www.gear-zone.co.uk/eshop/Karrimor-Sabre-30.html

Its a little pricey still when those other links have sub £30 sacks which will do just the same job for me...

Hmmmmm, still think the pink flowery pack is a winner....

Geoff

[Geoffrey_Bubbles]

Capacious/Martin - Damn £9.95 is dirt cheap for a rucksack, but I'm not sure about these external frame packs, never carried one before and they look uncomfortable and like I'd probably end up getting mangled in there somewhere :rolleyes:

Currently, its splash the £45 on the Saber 30 (which was more than I intended to spend) or go with the Karrimor Ridge 25 for £25...

Geoff

[martin]

Yeah they do look uncomfortable but they're not. I've got one and I use it a lot. I suffer a lot with a sweaty back with internal frame sacks. Not so with this sack. Get one, if you don't like it sell it on at a car boot or on here you'll get your money back.
There's a 70 litre version too and I'll be buying one as soon as I find one.

[EdS]

aguille alpine equipment if you ca nfind them - but the ain't cheap. best pack s made in the uk - hand made not mass produced.

[leon-b]

hi
sorry to dredge up an old thread but i was wondering could you remove the external metal frame and still use the bag without it
leon

[Neil1]

I have used the swedish 35ltr pack for a couple of years now (it has one or two modifications now), but it is probably the best pack I have ever used. The external frame allows air to flow properly between your back and the pack.
The capacity is great (you can fit a Karrimor Sabre 45 inside it!) so mine get used for virtually every bushcraft outing, outside extended winter trips (for that I use the 70ltr version).
Don't be fooled by the price tag - its the best pack going for bushcraft.
Neil

[Spikey DaPikey]

http://www.bushcraftuk.com/community/showthread.php?t=3709&highlight=33ltr+review

See this thread as well :)

[leon-b]

what modifications have you made to the pack
leon

[jamesdevine]

I am sure I read somewhere on the tread some asking about getting the Sabre packs in Ireland but I can't find to add as a quote. The answer is known but I have used several of there packs and they are worth the money if you can afford it. As a day sack I would probably look at the Delta 35 or Hydro 30 do as I would get more use out of them. (more street looking). You can get the Berghaus Mounro do in Dublin

The swedish army packs are great and with a little work can be very comfortable and Neil I maybe you do up a tutorial/articule for the BCUK Mag on the pack. PLEASE :You_Rock_

James

[Jon Mawer]

What about the daysack made up from PLCE side pouches? 20 litres no frame but has a waistbelt very lightweight when empty. I've threaded shock-cord through the back loops with a cord lock to carry wet weather gear also two smaller shock-cord/cordlock loops as pole carriers. Give Kev at endicotts a call under £20 posted as I recall.
Dave.

Good old Kev, he's certainly going to be a good bet. Give him a ring and have a chat, he'll be able to help. His info should be in the resources page. (Oh, and mention BCUK, might have a positive effect ;) )

[Neil1]

I started a tutorial a while back, but it seemed to get very long & complicated, which making the modifications is'nt. So I'll have to start it again and put lots of pictures in.
I replaced the harness, buckles and added compression/attachment straps, I think there are some pics of it in my gallery.
I don't find the need to stash my sleep kit on top, it all fits inside the pack real well, which keeps it all nice & low profile when moving thru dense woodland.
Neil

[leon-b]

ok will you post a new tutorial then mate

leon

[pinty]

I started a tutorial a while back, but it seemed to get very long & complicated, which making the modifications is'nt. So I'll have to start it again and put lots of pictures in.
I replaced the harness, buckles and added compression/attachment straps, I think there are some pics of it in my gallery.
I don't find the need to stash my sleep kit on top, it all fits inside the pack real well, which keeps it all nice & low profile when moving thru dense woodland.
Neil
@ Neil1 - Please do post your mod guide when you get a chance, would be appreciated. Have you used a modified PLCE yoke for the harness?

Just got my LK35 in the post today, it's huge, far bigger than expected but this is a good thing. Looking forward to trying it out properly, but the shoulder straps look deadly - could do with softening up.