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william#
01-01-2006, 18:57
im looking at spending the summer in a camper van this year work is flexible enough and i have saved enough so i can do it . as i am completely new to this kind of thing does any one have any top tips .i mean i dont want or can buy anything top of the range .
ive been looking at getting a plane old transit and just putting in a therma rest i mean how much gadgets do u really need if you are just out for the summer - besides i hope to be out in the wood or the on the mountains most of the time just want the flexiblity to move around . and im not one for guest houses or b and b s also as i am getting beyond my prime now carrying everything on the back is not really an option these days - well not more than a few days at a time
The only advise I can give you on this is that many camp sites do not allow vans, but maybe you are not planning to stay at camp sites..............Jon
I have adapted my van with a removeable deck about halfway up the cargo compartment.
This means you can sleep on the deck but still load all your gear underneath.
We spent 7 weeks touring Northern Scandinavia in it last year and it gets used regularly for shorter trips.
william#
01-01-2006, 19:13
no not really planing to stay on sites if i can help it i dont think i have much in common with the on site people.
im looking into really speding time completeing my ml qualification
demographic
01-01-2006, 19:27
If your going to put plywood on the floor of the van it's worth putting a couple of layers of underlay under it to provide some insulation.
If you can get a Transit with windows in the back (even if you put plywood inside them for security) aparently they are allowed to go faster according to a speed scamera partnership bloke a mate was talking to.
The ones without windows are only allowed to do 50 in a 60 zone area but the ones with windows (like mine :lmao: ) are allowed to do 60.
Yep, a few campsites don't allow "High sided vehicles" which I was told was to discourage gypsys (the bloke who told me that ran the Strathclyde campsite) but who gives a toss, with a van you don't need a campsite as a layby does.
Mines got a semi high roof but as I have only had it for about a month I have not kipped out in it yet.
Don't forget to ask when the cambelt was last changed.
I looked into van camping for a mate a few years back . If looking at second hand already converted vans , be carefull . One we looked at had that much 4x4 in the back to support everything , it was over the weight limit for carrying and that was without the family and kit they would take !! Also make sure that there is ventilation if you are going to cook in it ! It will probably be worth your while completely lining the back out for a couple of reasons . Firstly it will stop condensation dripping on your face at night and secondly it will keep the rear compartment bearable wether facing a hot or cold spell .
Hope it works out for you
Pumbaa
demographic
01-01-2006, 19:53
I looked into van camping for a mate a few years back . If looking at second hand already converted vans , be carefull . One we looked at had that much 4x4 in the back to support everything , it was over the weight limit for carrying and that was without the family and kit they would take !! Also make sure that there is ventilation if you are going to cook in it ! It will probably be worth your while completely lining the back out for a couple of reasons . Firstly it will stop condensation dripping on your face at night and secondly it will keep the rear compartment bearable wether facing a hot or cold spell .
Hope it works out for you
Pumbaa
I am not sure but I think the ones that have windows in the back also have lined/insulated roofs, mine does anyway.
I don't think the ones without windows have the lining/insulation but am not sure in all cases.
I have not "converted" mine as I need it to carry my tools and full sheets of plasterboard but it has a plywood floor with underlay.
If you line the back out it's worth putting dabs of silicone at areas that might rattle cos otherwise the noise gets right up yer nose.
Spacemonkey
01-01-2006, 20:14
How about the jap people carrier vans such as the Toyota Spacecruiser? Comfy, with all the options as standard and still cheap. Many are converted to mini campers, so it can't be too hard, plus they are not classed as vans so insurance isn't quite the problem that it could be. I believe that most have removable seats in the back that would make it a normal van, but some also fold flat to make a large comfy sleeping deck.
shadow57
01-01-2006, 20:27
Hi
I have VW Karisma campervan that is 21 years old. £3000 ...3 years ago.
Its nothing special but it beats sleeping in a tent on a campsite.
Good points,
Dry and comfy
Freedom to move on.
Relaxed
Good view when it rains on tents
Easy to manoeuvre
Secure
Dumping visitors in for extra accomadation.
Noise cut down from other campers
Bad points
Heavy on fuel 28mpg
Winter storage/cleaning
John
I have a VW transporter (Type 25) panel van, I converted the whole of the back of the van like mentioned above (with a stage area). Loads of storage underneath and it even drives pretty well!
http://www.kitezine.net/upload/gallery/loweredvan.jpg
I've just bought this Transit for £450. It's already got a wood floor and covered with carpet. There's also some MDF panneling half way up the sides. I find there's quite a lot of condensation as someone has already said.
I want to use this just to get to and from different woods and not to use on camp sites. I would love to hear others ideas on how to make the most of this for a "Bushcraft Van" (bearning in mind I still have to use it for band kit :rolleyes: )
I've always liked the idea of a van like this as I can store all my kit in a box and choose the stuff I need to use when I get to the bushcraft area (ie I can choose wildlife watching kit, hiking kit or just sit in the van and have a cuppa).
Maybe we can keep each other updated on progress to Van Bushcraft Customising :lmao:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c269/prmaklpboo/Bushcraft/P1010009_2.jpg
Pablo
AlbeoLupus
02-01-2006, 13:56
We also run a VW T25 van - 'Ronnie'
He's fitted with a full width Rock n roll bed, 3way fridge, cooker and hopefully soon a propex heater (just needs fitting). We also have a contraption that lets us fit a hammock across the front seats.
http://www.djwhitewolfvw.net/images/new_wheels_1.jpg
It now also has aroof box to carry extra kit ;)
Andy :cool:
Greenpete
02-01-2006, 14:33
im looking at spending the summer in a camper van this year work is flexible enough and i have saved enough so i can do it . as i am completely new to this kind of thing does any one have any top tips .i mean i dont want or can buy anything top of the range .
ive been looking at getting a plane old transit and just putting in a therma rest i mean how much gadgets do u really need if you are just out for the summer - besides i hope to be out in the wood or the on the mountains most of the time just want the flexiblity to move around . and im not one for guest houses or b and b s also as i am getting beyond my prime now carrying everything on the back is not really an option these days - well not more than a few days at a time
If you intend traveling in anything but warm weather insulate the roof and walls or you'll be living in a water fall!
Also my friends and I find a little log burner to be well worth the effort when it comes to cold evenings and cooking (personally don't like gas so always cook on the camp fire or log burner) not to mention the all important brewing of tea!
Spacemonkey
02-01-2006, 15:54
I would agree with fitting insulation behind the wood panelling. You could staple loft lagging to the board backs or glue to the van I guess. This will also help keep out the heat in the summer too, I would have hoped. You could quite easily fabricate folding beds and tables on the sides of the panels with secure fittings. This would allow easy conversion from kit lugger to camper.
Sounds fun-wish I had space for another wagon myself!
william#
02-01-2006, 15:55
so far so good
you got a van for 450 quid wow - does it run ok ?
sadly i have the mechanical know how of a yoghurt
i do like the idea of a wood burner though i think the added work of the thing a bit of a pain - also im planning to be out in it for around 5 mths and will be using the odd lay by so i want to keep as discreet as i can - so probably use the old trusty msr for cooking and brewing
i supose it comes down to at the end of the day what is available when i want to buy
though i kind of think that a camper would be good - just a van would do - also thinking about electricity too thought about getting a silent generator so i can use the old lap top too - any tips on that - also has any one had any experiance with solar panels ?
please tell me more about the hammock device - i have really taken to sleeping in hammocks these days
AlbeoLupus
02-01-2006, 16:05
I would stay clear of loft lagging for insulation, as it absorbs moisture :( we used polystyrene sheets).
Solar panels could cost you more than the van :eek:
Have a look at this site, tis a mine of information :)
Self Build Motor Caravanners Club (http://sbmcc.co.uk/forum/index.php?)
As for the hammock, this is for the rugrat (he's 10, so it won't be long before we will have to make other arangements) we use the fold out double.
Andy :cool:
anthonyyy
02-01-2006, 16:32
If your going to fix a stove I would recommend you do it near the sliding door. This allows you to check on whats cooking from outside without climbing inside.
I have a Westfalia VW T25 camper van meself. The T25 was also made as a four wheel drive or almost as good with a locking differential. The T25 is a great van to drive, though underpowered with the standard 1.6 engine. They hold their value well.
Spacemonkey
02-01-2006, 16:37
I would stay clear of loft lagging for insulation, as it absorbs moisture :( we used polystyrene sheets).
Yes, that's a valid point. I shall flog myself for my stupidity.
Solar panels could cost you more than the van :eek:
Maybe.... My dad has spent the last year and a half in a small caravan while he builds his house. Hes has a solar panel that measures about 1ft x 2ft rigged up to a charger and a car battery. Not the best setup, granted, but it is enough to power electric lighting in the 'van every night, and power a radio. Ok, so he lives in Spain, but even in winter it works reasonably. In all honesty though, it is probably better to rig up a twin battery setup and use one exclusivly for light and power in the back, and the other for the van's regular running. I suppose it is possible to rig up a solar panel on the roof to aid the charging of the second battery, but a flat panel is vastly inferior to a panel that faces and follows the sun, and in the UK this would make a huge difference. Trouble is, a standing up panel would stand out a mile, which you are trying to avoid.
so far so good
you got a van for 450 quid wow - does it run ok ?
sadly i have the mechanical know how of a yoghurt
I was lucky as the previous owner was going abroad. I spent £50 on a pre MOT before I offered the dosh. It needed about 150's worth of work to make it safe, hence the offer of £450. It runs great but it's been around the universe and back, so I'm not going to spend a fortune customising it. I have very little mech knowledge, but by asking around, there's always someone who can do a bit of maintenance ;) I don't intend to do any touring or the like.
Good ideas about the insulation especially the polystyrene backing.
I went out in it today. It was too late for a walkabout so I just sat in the back with a flask of tea watching the wildlife through the sliding door sitting on my folding stool. Bliss :D
Pablo
We did up horse lorry living area, we used special carpet to line it.
This is not that costly, it and the glue we used were designed to be used in vans caravans etc, so it is fire proof and reduces sound.
Got it from here, they do everything from water tanks, stoves generators etc
http://www.foxlea.co.uk/bits_10.html
Some glues etc are very flamable so would not be good in vans so pay a little extra is my advice. I do know of a couple of vans which have been gutted by fire while someone cooking inside, no one hurt but think careful before using anything.
For power we have leisure battery which lights, laptop etc runs off.
This runs from a split charger so can recharge while driving yet will not drain main battery while engine is not running.
running bare
02-01-2006, 22:39
have you thought of getting an inverter it converts 12vdc to 230vac via the cigarette lighter socket and you can pick them up from Maplins or Tandy oreven Halfrauds ( i think )
I have a split charging system in the van, the leisure battery hold charge for quite some time, I have found that I can run the lights for around 4 or 5 days.
The leisure battery is also usefull to jump start the van on it's bad days! :O)
The AC inverters are good, but your limited to what you can run on them as the wattage is not usually very high. I got mine from ebay for around £40. It's an 800w system which can chaged the laptop with no problems.
william#
03-01-2006, 08:02
do the prices of the vans get significently higher in the spring ?
any tips on where to buy ?
I almost bought one of these (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MAZDA-BONGO-FACE-LIFT-ONE-OF-THE-BEST-AROUND_W0QQitemZ4599919344QQca tegoryZ14256QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewIt em) a few months ago. You get loads of kit for the money and quite good mpg.
Not saying buy from evilbay just a link to show you a mazda bongo.
AlbeoLupus
03-01-2006, 13:49
do the prices of the vans get significently higher in the spring ?
any tips on where to buy ?
Yup prices go up in the spring :(
Try these two links
Club 80-90 (http://www.club80-90.co.uk/forum/viewforum.php?f=5&sid=7b5de8e2c150167f06c77c926a a8e754)
You need to be a member to post on this site, but it should give you an idea.
JustKampers (http://www.justkampers.co.uk/interactive/kamperchat/forumdisplay.php?forumid=7)
Both these sites are for VW's
Happy hunting ;)
Andy :cool:
(WhiteWolf on both the above sites ;) )
Hiya William
Don`t know if it`s much use to you but I managed to get a T reg VW Bugvan last summer to take to V festival - £650 from the Adtrader.
Didn`t breakdown once - just used a lot of water
Worth a look
Good luck
I almost bought one of these (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MAZDA-BONGO-FACE-LIFT-ONE-OF-THE-BEST-AROUND_W0QQitemZ4599919344QQca tegoryZ14256QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewIt em) a few months ago. You get loads of kit for the money and quite good mpg.
Not saying buy from evilbay just a link to show you a mazda bongo.
Brendans Bongo.........Love it..........Jon
william#
14-05-2006, 19:53
hey been ages since this thread thought i would update - there might be another person on here who is sad enough to avidly read most things on here .
well i got the camper stored it away returned to thailand while in thailand i fell in love
noooooo not with a woman but with scuba .
now i got back got the camper but quite quickly certain things became apparent one was the rising fuel costs and two as mentioned on this thread many camp sites dont take campers .
i also realised that its just these small campsites i like and the camper van sites are the ones i dont like and though i thought the ease of cooking and all the other comforts yu get with a van was what i thought i wanted , i actually realised that when im out in the wilds i like to cook on my msr at the foot of my tent or under the tarp of my hammock so i am busy getting the camper ready to re sell i will then secide whether to go back to thailand and finnish off the dive master course or keep to the original plan but do it with tent / hammock and small hatch back either way i learned camper vans do not do it for me
Spacemonkey
22-05-2006, 19:55
Picked up a 1984 VW T25 Camper (Holdsworth conversion) at the weekend as an impulse buy. Mechanically it is perfect with brand new brake componants, bearings, CVs, exhaust, alternator, starter, batteries and more. Wax oyled underneath. Was my mate's dad's restoration project since '97 and since '95 it has only done 12k miles bringing it up to 86k. Slight bit of bubbling on the usual seams, but that's it. The 78 PS 1.9 petrol engine is a gem and all the interior can best be described as perfect bar a bit of wear on the front seats. Shame they're pink.... must make some zebra skin seat covers and carpet now!
Gas cooker and grill with gas fridge all works perfect as does the twin battery electrics, and the fridge can also run off the alternator if need be, or the electrical hook up.
All in for....£1000! Bargain...
Anyway, should be perfect for my weekend fishing trips to the coast and for mountain trips when I don't have time to camp out. Also my girlfriend can come out on extended trips without having to worry about the guinea pigs as there is ample room for them too! ;)
I even got a Monkey bike included...:lmao: Must get a German helmet to wear with that....
Nice, I'm looking at second hand vans myself as well, might try it out since I'll have my drivers license practical examination tomorrow !
Is it hard to find a parking place to sleep in a van?
Damn, since you mentioned about your girlfriend's guinea pigs.. I just realised my girl got a rabbit this week and he'll probably have to come with us on all our trips too!? Well, we should learn him to follow after us... or rewild him (I'm still glad it wasn't a dog she showed up with, or another guy! ;) )
Spacemonkey
25-05-2006, 11:57
A rabbit should be cool! Make a folding 'run' for it and when you park up, it can nibble the grass. Ours live in pairs in large cages so when we hit grass, I'll take the wire tops off and peg them on the grass and release the piggies into it. Once they have mown the lawn, I'll move them a bit. Just remember to take them in at night because of foxes and stuff...
At home they live in the livving room in large runs on the floor, but they don't mind the cages for a while. Should be fun, and if we run out of food...
william#
25-05-2006, 13:12
good luck with the exam !!!
i found parking a bit of a problem - but then one im pretty naff at parking the thing at best. 2. i have a bit of a hang up with just parking anywhere (brought up in the country and understand that the whole place is owned by someone some where (but thats just my hang up ) though if you get to know an area well yu get to know good spots and the level of discretion needed. 3. i am always paranoid im going to put it in a ditch or ground the thing so that tends to make me less adventerous with where i park .
thinking of a little 4x4 panda now (an old rust bucket ) that i can just rush into woods with not worrying about paint work and the like cover with green scrim and set up hammock .
Spacemonkey
25-05-2006, 17:27
Get some NV goggles to add to the effect so you can approach in darkness... Have you noticed that my poked badger moves faster than yours? Have you also noticed that www.badgerbadger.com no longer exists?
I've recently started looking at Mazda Bongos for ourselves, so if anyone's got any sage advice or tips I'd really appreciate them.
william#
26-05-2006, 11:52
Get some NV goggles to add to the effect so you can approach in darkness... Have you noticed that my poked badger moves faster than yours? Have you also noticed that www.badgerbadger.com no longer exists?
lol
i did get an image inteciver yes
though i sold it last week due to lack of use
maybe get a top pair of goggles next time
good luck with the exam !!!
Thanks, I think it was lucky indeed that I passed :)
A panda, those little cars are good eh. I know they last pretty long!
@ spacemonkey: our rabbit has no cage at all, it just follows my girl like his own mother! (there's also a trail of **** trough the house)
Spacemonkey
30-05-2006, 20:29
Have you noticed that my poked badger moves faster than yours? Have you also noticed that www.badgerbadger.com (http://www.badgerbadger.com/) no longer exists?
And to go totally off topic, though I sure William won't mind, the badgers are back:
http://www.weebls-stuff.com/search/index.php?q=badger
and to be a bit more topical:
http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/footy/
Dougster
02-06-2006, 09:17
A mate of mine has just bought a Hilux Surf for about £3k. The back seats go flat, so it's about as big as a small double bed, with all the kit in the front when there are two of them. The back window drops for ventilation and he's 4X4 to get slightly off the track. Not luxury, but rig a tarp over the, linked to a roofrack and dangle your feet off the tailgate....
Spacemonkey
02-06-2006, 22:24
my cousin has one and he has camped out in the back. Nice motor and very good off road!
bothyman
08-06-2006, 08:26
This could give you some ideas.
>> http://www.20yearsoverland.com/index.html :rolleyes:
MickT ;)
Hi scanker,
There is a forum for Bongos, I was looking at them a while back, they have some advantages over VW, I'm sorry to say, like 4WD as standard, A/C, automatics mainly and about a quarter of the price of a comparable VW!
Bongos are Japanese Imports (used), converted either in Japan or shipped here for conversion. Smaller than a VW, based more on a car/small MPV.
The forum also has links to specialist dealers.
Google for Bongo Fury, the name of the forum.
Cheers. Midori
Thanks very much for that Midori. You're too late though...I've already joined Bongo Fury and we got Billy Bongo a week ago! We went camping at the weekend and are very pleased with it. You didn't get one in the end then?
Minotaur
13-06-2006, 12:11
If money was no object.
http://www.101fc.net/grumble/index.htm
Minotaur, Just met the owners and got a look round the 101fc on Sunday at the Land Rover World show, talked to other 101 camper van owners saw their conversions as well some cost only £3500 including the 101 Fc which is quite good value, only problem they said was it is petrol and does 10mpg eeehh I guess thats why they now have move to gas conversion.
Blimey. You end up with a camper you can't afford to take anywhere! :)
Minotaur
14-06-2006, 10:29
Minotaur, Just met the owners and got a look round the 101fc on Sunday at the Land Rover World show, talked to other 101 camper van owners saw their conversions as well some cost only £3500 including the 101 Fc which is quite good value, only problem they said was it is petrol and does 10mpg eeehh I guess thats why they now have move to gas conversion.
I was there too.
It is the fuel and maintence that costs apparently.
Do you get a look into the Grumble(The purple one)?
This is a nice one:
http://www.unimog.org.uk/mymog/
These are even nicer:
http://www.actionmobil.com/eng/home/index.html
However, back in the real world we've got an old Talbot Express based 'Autosleeper' :
http://www.zen15400.zen.co.uk/van/van1.jpg
(the trailer is for the diving gear)
It's got the sort of tinworm problems you'd expect from a 16 year old van that wasn't really renowned for bodywork in the first place(!), but it's ok if you keep on top of it (and they don't dissolve in front of your eyes like VW's!). They've got a bit more space and comfort than a VW bus, but it's still slow (60mph cruise is it's 'happy' zone) and thirsty (28'ish mpg).
Still, we've had some good adventures in it!
best
Matt
rapidboy
15-06-2006, 18:48
How did i miss this thread ?
After years of estate car / van camping and then a VW T3 home conversion i bought this in 2001.
A company called AVA Leisure did the conversion, unlike a lot of the conversion companies they will build to your requirements.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/403_0348_1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/403_0384_1a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/rapidboy1/403_0382_1a.jpg
New VW T4 van was about £20K and the conversion about £8K so it worked out about the same price as my fathers Autosleeper T4 conversion but taylored to my needs and a lot more descrete for everyday use as a car.
They made alterations around their basic "ISIS" interior so i could have a rack for my fishing rods and room for gun cases etc.
AVA will convert a secong hand van and the T4 van's are a good S/H buy now that the new T5 is out.
They will also do the conversion in stages to suit your budget.
I just changed from a VWT4 to a T5 for my work van and it would make a stunning camper van.
rb
Has anyone mentioned the Mitsubishi Delica yet? I know it was mentioned a couple of times on forums in the past. It was a van body mounted on a 4wd Shogun chassis!
Sounds like it would have enough room for all your stuff and could go places a traditional camper van might struggle with - could be useful if you don't intend to use traditional campsites...
Cap'n Badger
19-07-2006, 01:05
For what it's worth.....this be mine....had him fer 10 years now......many nights under the stars.......pushin' it home.....(nah) :lmao:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/Captain123/Eddie.jpg
Rapidboy....like the interior conversion man....if only mine was that tidy!!
Spacemonkey
19-07-2006, 18:25
Nice one Cap'n!
I like my T25, but to be honest I'm now after something more modern and am looking at LWB Delicas to convert. As they seem quite narrow by comparison (optical illusion??) I'm thinking along the lines of a sleeping pop top.
rapidboy
19-07-2006, 18:32
T25 is a great van, we had one of the very early air cooled one's from when they changed over from the bay window.
Ex church mini bus that my father did a conversion from.
Great bus that took us to many music festivals.
get a bay window vee dub they rock
we have one and were driving to cornwall this year
leon
Spacemonkey
19-07-2006, 21:32
Yeah I now they do! I bought mine as it was a great bargain. It is only for fishing trips and taking the girlfriend out for trips as she's not into this getting dirty business.. but for driving to my land in Spain, a Delica conversion would be ideal as I would NEED the off road ability when I get there, and would appreciate the modern driving ability, and aircon on the way down..;)
You can still buy the very last few brand new Bay Window campers orm the Brazil factory that closed last year. About £15-18k depending on spec. Now that's a bloody cheap brand new camper!
Cap'n Badger
24-07-2006, 16:25
As we're on the camper buzz at the mo......Do you have solar chargin' in yer vans?....picked these up a few weeks ago......
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=47902&criteria=solar&doy=17m7
I've had a 'Battery saver' panel in the van fer 'bout two year or so......marvelous piece o' kit....never had a flat battery since!!....even in the winter this panel pumps a constant 1.5w into the drive/starter bat......
But now have two extra keepin' the leisure bat topped...(both connected permanent like).....also got a small x4 battery solar charger fer field use.....(phone charger/radio/torch batterys)......never run out of torch light I says...lol..
There are bigger ones t' be had......but they start t' get expensive the bigger the wattage.........
Spacemonkey
24-07-2006, 19:21
Yep, I got the same one in the van at the mo'. And I'm also going to get another for the leisure battery. I have it on the dash, and will fix both on there. They get plenty of sun. I had a thermometer on there for a while now, but the sun has melted it!
Cap'n Badger
24-07-2006, 19:38
phew yea!!.....was comin' back from watchet in devon last week......55 degrees on me dash!!....never leave yer sunglasses on there....spesh ifin they be made o' plastic!!..oh fer air con!!......
seamonkey
15-09-2006, 03:20
Ello,
good thread this - glad i thought to check here. good advice on insulation and good common sense like siting the stove by the door.
I am currently in the market for a camper again - yay I was hoping for some advice as i know b*gger all about the newer ones available.
I used to have the use of an orange combi back in scotland and it was easily the most fun car i've riven even with its shortcomings people would genuinely smile when they saw the old bus coming - which was nice.
I need a good cheapish reliable van i've ruled out VWs on the basis that most have been abused and will be money pits at the price range i'm looking at.
I'm going back to NZ in a weeks time for a year at least and fully intend to live in it for at least half that (before i need to get a respectable job :-) Unsure if i should do the conversion myself and just buy a basic shell...
The Bongo sounds ace - if for no other reason that i just want to own a car called a bongo once in my life
Nissan Largo (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=69820263)
the last time i was touring the north island i borrowed a 4x4 Nissan Terrano and was very impressed by it on the limited ammount of logging trail off road i did. i'm hoping this shares the same drivetrain.
Isuzu Fargo (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=69052437)
Then again i could be tempted by something as like this.Pimp my Van (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Toyota/auction-69976517.htm)
note the chandilier - Nice!!
btw william how did you get on with your divemaster? i've been try to finish mine for years :-)
Cheers
Graham
I like my bongo. Have a look at http://www.bongofury.co.uk for loads more info. The forums there are very helpful to.
and I like my bicycle.
It transports me, my gear (tent/tarp,Kelly, Trangia etc.), makes stealth camping quite easy and doesn“t need praehistoric fuel :D
I used to have a Mitsubishi Delica. 4x4 aircon front & back, fridge and all the other bells & whistles. Only prob was MPG at about 28 per gallon. Still have a look on the owners club for more info..
http://www.globalcar.com/img/16259702.jpg
http://www.mdocuk.co.uk/forums/
seamonkey
22-09-2006, 07:45
Thanks fo rthe info folks - Vantastic,
I've completed ignored it however :-) and just bought a camper van a converted 89 Toyota Hiace super custom(i'd never heard of them before today either) rwd only but it should cover all my needs.
It cost NZ$2400 which is around 840 quid has electric everything (which works) including electric curtains! . pretty happy about it not very bushcrafty i know but its hard to spent the same ammount of money on a knackered old landie
Sorted i now have a house and transport. Noice!
Just tried to add a pic but to no avail :-(
cheers
G
Spacemonkey
25-09-2006, 22:55
I saw something similar at the weekend with a pop top roof for sleeping in, and the van bit was done up like my VW camper inside. Looked ace!