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Whole Chicken in a Can

Discussion in 'Lovely Grub' started by verloc, May 1, 2009.

  1. Chinkapin

    Chinkapin Settler

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    Khruschev, in his memoirs stated that he became quite fond of Spam during WWII when it was often the only meat that was available. I think there is a television advertisement there just waiting to be filmed.
     
  2. Tengu

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    I do bottling in kilner jars, but in the US its called canning...
     
  3. Toddy

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    That used to confuse me no end :dunno:
    Why do they call bottling 'cannning' ??

    Good recipes from N. America for it though :approve:

    cheers,
    M
     
  4. Tadpole

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    I think that the term can is the shortened form of canister, which can be made of anything, the French invention called for preserving of food, within a glass cylinder or canister. Before Paster they thought that removing the air would preserve food, so they heated the glass canisters to drive of the air. Preserving food by sealing it in glass canisters is canning
     
  5. HillBill

    HillBill Bushcrafter through and through

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    Americans like to use different words than we do. They wanted to distance themselves from us after the war of independance as much as possible so a whole new set of names for things came up. They even drive on the right because we drive on the left, no other reason. Where as the French drive on the right because napoleon was left handed.

    canning/cannisters is probs correct though.
     
  6. traderran

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    We buy them all the time over hear. Great to take camping or
    to make a big pot of chicken an dumplings
     
  7. Chinkapin

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    Why do you call it a "tin" when there is no tin in it? (interestingly enough, we refer to an empty one as a "tin can" but no one would think of saying get me a tin can of soup or get me a tin of soup - - just get me a can of soup.)

    I expect HillBill is right when he says that canning probably evolved from cannister. the word "can" most likely came the same route.

    Its true that after the Revolution, we did distance ourselves from the British, such as judges not wearing wigs, dropping the "u" of of words like "harbour" etc. But by the time automobiles came along I dont think this had anything to do with it.

    Some people theorize that horsemen preferred to pass left side to left side, because it is much easier for a right handed person to pull his shotgun and wheel around to the left in his saddle. Much more difficult the other way round.

    But I think the real reason is that in the era of Henry Ford, cars were being built with both left hand and right hand drive, and Henry simply said he was going to build them with the steering wheel on the left period.

    Since he built the vast majority of cars, everyone else soon fell into line. It had more to do with Ford being stubborn than it did with colonists and descendants of colonist being pig headed.
     
  8. rik_uk3

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    I though the spelling was to do with making English easier to learn and write for the mass immigration at that time?
     
  9. Bravo4

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    I heard that alot of the spelling changes were due to a guy named Webster. He's responsible for changing 'colour' to 'color', and a few others;)
     
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    Why did he not just write it culor then ?
    You know for a stranger, English in all it's permutations, must be a nightmare to spell :rolleyes:

    cheers,
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    Webster felt that English was too hard a language for Americans to learn read and write in, so he invented word (some twelve thousand of them) that the American children were able to comprehend, rather than try and 'over' educate them with Greek, Latin and Anglo-Saxon word based words and grammar, though his speller included quite a few of all types. During his life time he was respected, but not by educators. I feel that this is because his elementary spelling books for children, were never joined with a spelling book for adults.
     
  12. verloc

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    from chicken in a can to linguistics - gotta love this forum :D
     
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    Before cars were invented people walked/rode on the opposite side of the road to their sword arm as to always have the weapon between them and someone coming the other way. The majorty have always been right handed so the majority of travel was done on the left of a road. Napleon was a leftie so had his whole armies march on the right.

    You know, i never thought of shotguns etc with americans, and now that i do it makes complete sense. European history goes way further back than American history (post colonisation) so swords were the norm. Thanks, thats given me a new take on things over there. :)
     
  14. Tengu

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    Cut to the chase. Where do we get one?
     
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    When I lived in Hanover I used to ask my German friends to read this sentance aloud:

    "The rough, tough, dough-faced ploughman coughed and hiccoughed his way from Slough to Loughborough".

    Very few got it right first time. :)

    If I was really feeling mean I'd unleash this monster on 'em:

     
  16. HillBill

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    The English language has always been a pain to learn if your not from over here. It is even harder to write. I would have loved to see their faces trying that lot out :lmao:
     
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    The orignal metal cans (and a lot still are) where 'tinned' e.g. the inside (as can the outside) of the can is plated in a thin layer of tin to prevent rust.
     
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    I've got an archeology journal at home from about 10 years ago, and it had an article on a Roman era quarry in the south of Endland somewhere. Anyway, what was of interest was that they were driving on the left back then. They could tell this because the road was metalled or paved, and the ruts were shallower going to the quarry because the carts were empty.

    As far as I remember - which may not be correct - the gist of the article was that, even back then, and under Roman rule, we were opposite to the continent, which would be interesting if true, and imply a much earlier, even ancient, origin. I'll try to dig the article out.
     
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    http://www.2pass.co.uk/goodluck.htm

    Here is an article on it.
    (sorry for the thread deviation)
     
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    Mild steel sheet plated with tin, often known as tinplate. Today it's often electro-plated but in the past it was hot-dipped. Some people claim that 'tin cans' were originally made of tin but it would be too soft and quite expensive. Many 'tins' now are plated with cadmium or zinc, or coated with plastic on the inside. We now have the linguistically interesting concept of 'tinnies' of drink, which are aluminium (which in itself is an interesting word).
     

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