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Discussion in 'Other Chatter' started by Abbe Osram, Jul 19, 2006.
DITTO! good luck mate.
Good luck Abbey, what a great loss. :sadwavey:
Abbe I'm sorry that you feel you need to leave. I've learnt a lot from your posts, wit and style, even when I've read them at work! I wish you the best for the future.
I'll be checking in on your site every now and then so make sure you let us know how your cabin building goes.
Sorry to hear this Abbe. I hope that, in time, you will feel able to return.
I know from your writings that you are very much tuned into the 'connectedness' that many of us feel when outdoors. Hunting is one part of this.
Allways enjoyed reading your posts Abbe. Sorry to see you go.
Take care and good luck
Best wishes for the future Abbe - your depth of knowledge and stories/examples have been an inspiration to me as a relatively new member.
Err, what are you on about Scott?
Rifle is definitely not in the swear filter and never has been. The reason that some threads get moderated is because the gun discussion goes beyond hunting etc into the guns themselves and then some one jumps on with a comment like
if you had to spot a human from breaking into your house what gun would you use.
The whole place gets put into a classification and that doesnt just stop it getting into the work place but educational establishments as well. Its a balance not just between appropriate content but people being able to see it as well.
Back to the pathetic though, Im afraid youre mistaken about the filter and I do agree with you that for some its a part of bushcraft. I go out and catch stuff for food, thats hunting.
I hope that explains it a bit more fully. I was deliberating on how to address your post but thought that pulling into a new thread would be overkill.
I hope that Abbe reconsiders about leaving the forum as I think hes a great guy and a great member of the site who puts in a lot and stands by what he believes. Im looking at how things are moderated and considering all the angles I can see and Ive taken on board what people have said, including your comments above.
Abbe, dont stay away too long.
Just seemed that everytime someone mentioned the word rifle it got blanked out, I (wrongly) took that to mean that it was done by the swear filter.
Sorry, my mistake.
Clearly it wasn't something minor to Abbe...more like the straw that broke the camel's back.
Abbe also may not "need" to burn his bridges but again, clearly believes he has too.
I also have issues with how this site has been moderated over the last year or so...Abbe has the courage of his convictions to stand up and put his money were his mouth is and I applude him for that. If he didn't do it so pulicly then nothing would change. As more and more oldtimers leave maybe sooner or later certain elements of the MoD team (it's not all of them by a long shot) will start to learn that they can't do exactly what they want without some form of repercussions or maybe they will be pulled into line by the site's admin.
Abbe, good luck my friend this place will be the worse for not having you here. You and I have been mates for a fair while now and sooner or later I WILL get over there to see you
Take it easy bud,
I'm not one to moan but I must agree with Bam.
Something must be wrong to hack off a balanced,sensible character like Abbe.
He has always been balanced and courteous in his posts and in his discussions on sensitive issues.
I have been modded once or twice,with good reason,and have had a PM to explain why.Has this practice been abandoned?
I can see that when dealing with numpties who obviously have an agenda,it would be a waste of time and effort.However,with a member of good standing,who has earned the respect of the majority of us,it would be good form to take the time to explain why the posts were being pulled/edited.
Hopefully the team can find it's old form and get this great forum back on the rails.
You will be missed - your posts have been some of the best on here but I understand your decision mate.
Look after yourself and enjoy your bushcraft.
I too will greatly miss your contributions, Abbe. You're one of the best.
Remember, you can always come back...
"Neither Abbe nor Nigel got an explanation by PM because it says in the moderators note left in place of the removed post "
I had a quick look and can find no sign of these moderators notes - is it possible that they are only visible to moderators?
I can't see the removed posts either - post #56 is by Toddy, then post #57 is from longshot. There's nothing between and no mention of the removed posts.
I've had a look as well Womble and can't see it either - explanation please Stuart
I was afraid that that might be the case, but only picked up on it yesterday when Abbe said there had been no explanation
I knew that I couldn't see notations about posts being deleted if I wasn't logged in, but I didn't have a non-moderator account handy to check whether they were visible to members or not.
I obviously don't want to tell the mods their business, but I think perhaps an apology might be in order here?
Sorry to see you go, I've enjoyed your posts and have always found them informative. Good luck in the future.