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Discussion in 'Hygiene and First Aid / Medicinal' started by Tengu, Mar 28, 2019.

  1. Corso

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    And there lies the problem - privatisation through the back door...little governance and little support
     
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    Dental clinics were always owned by the dentists, never by the State.
    Of course there are publicly owned clinics ( some are specialists clinics) , in hospitals, and so on.
    But the vast majority have always been privately owned.

    Governance - plenty of it, too much. Few private enterprices are as governed, regulated and supervised as a Dental clinic, be it fully Private or mixed Private and NHS .
    Pure privately owned NHS clinics fo not exist, all do a % of private work.

    Support - not needed, not wanted. The State/ Public/ taxpayer ( choose what you prefer) should not subsidise a specific business.

    There is a reason a Dental Clinic ( or GP Clinic) fails. Bad treatments. Msybe dishonesty.
    Patients flock to a skillfull, honest dentist or GP.

    I think Tengu got her latest skin disease ( hopefully not quickly fatal or too disfigurating) because we are gently itching towards the Big Taboo, Haram subject, the dreadful ‘Politics’
     
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    Jane I’m still confused. Corso’s post make it seem as if private practice dentists there are basically unlicensed? Do you not have to complete an approved university/college curriculum and clinical training before being allowed to sit for a licensing exam?
     
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    I never suggested they were unlicenced ? Or untrained, they do 5 years of dental school

    They are licenced like any other medical practitiener

    They have to participate in continued personal developement like them too

    Nor did i say that the government didn't regular them - although the CQC only got interested in 2010, and the xrays they used were only covered in IRR17 and IRMER18 properly but thats beside my point my point is before somone has any form of treatment in the NHS they are discussed in a MDT where a concesus is made on the best course of managment - and often it follows national guidlines

    the only dental concenus I can find is an NHS buisness maagment handbook...

    Anyway I am truely done I have my opinions on dental practices and they wont change
     
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    Ahhh. So private dentists are trained, licensed, and free to perform treatments above and beyond what the government would pay for. Much like private doctors. Sounds like an advantage.
     
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    Just a point of interest regarding glasses, i have just got a new pair of glasses, bi-focals from Boots, cost £225 less 25% discount I paid £168.75, when I got my receipt I was amazed to find out the actual glasses and lenses were in fact £52.31, the rest of the charge £116.44 was a dispensing charge, the actual eyesight test paid by the NHS was £21.31, now to me that is criminal. If I go to a shop to buy a pair of shoes, I don't expect to pay to be served by someone as a separate charge.
    ( I have a copy of the receipt to back up this statement, if anyone needs to see it)
     
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    Specsavers :D

    Seriously; two pairs of bi-focals, and my total bill was £111.75. My husband got varifocals and his bill was £156.
     
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    Asda, 2 pair £98, I told Boots I was going to Asda when they tried to sell me another pair with £10 off, I said off but not preceded by £10.
     
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    I just bought a pair directly from my optometrist. $189 (£145) for a pair of bifocals with a nice commercial metal frame. Still got two pair of government issue glasses on base for free as spares; one pair clear and one pair tinted sunglasses.
     
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    Better yet :)
    I've got a voucher for 50% off if I buy another pair within six months too though, and I'm hard on specs. They coat the lenses with stuff to be anti-glare, etc., but I manage to get it cloudy with mini scratches, etc., so the 50% is probably worth it for me.
     
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    I have the same problem with that coating they put on, maybe that's why they put it on.........
     
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    I did ask if it really were a good thing. The reply was that I am (just so slight that if they didn't have very modern machinery they wouldn't have spotted it yet) developing cataracts. UV damage apparently. The coatings are supposed to reduce the amount of UV that gets through the lenses and helps to stop glare when driving at night too.

    Honestly, I know we evolved to live here, those of us with the red haired gene in the background, and we get so little sunshine really, how the hang can it be a good thing to be so intolerant of UV ? Anyhow, I really don't fancy surgery on my eyes, so I'll be good and I'll shade and I'll wear the blasted glasses and hope to put off any extra damage for a while.

    M
     
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    Actual tinted sunglasses (prescription or plain) block UV rays. Good ones block as much as 95%. That’s why I’m authorized a free pair of prescription sunglasses from the Base (my cataracts) The anti glare coating is a cosmetic thing that lets other people see your eyes without the reflected glare on the lens.
     
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    UV goes through the clouds.
    I had Zeiss brown glass lensed sunglasses in Australia. Going to look into that again, all these decades later.
    Maybe I won't have such a sore mouth.
     
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    Ah, different coating I think. Mine are on my ordinary specs. There's no colour on the coating.

    Mind I live in Scotland, sunglasses are something of a rarity for most of the year. Thinking on it, I don't own a prescription pair at all.
    I suppose I need to deal with that now too :sigh:
     
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    How the hang did we get from Tengu's sore mouth to my specs ??? :dunno:
     
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    From what I remember when I lived there, folks in the UK probably need sunglasses more than we do here. At least those who are outdoors a great bit. That far north your daylight hours are much longer in Summer than ours are. Even with cooler temperatures the UV rays are just as intense.
     
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    You know listerine was failed floor cleaner that they wanted to come up with a use for ? From wikipedia

     
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    I wonder which thread has deviated most from the original post.
     
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    This is why you must look after your teeth.

    Bad teeth make bad breath.
     

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