I second Carinthia because i have a defence force 4 and a jacket from them. I want to give you my defence force 4 sleeping bag for nothing which is new and never used because i can't fit into the sleeping bag as i am too big for it chest wise. If i was going to give you the sleeping bag which is the defence force 4 i need to find something to put it in as it won't be coming with the stuff sack which is the thing. Whatever happens really. Dan.