dartmoor boar attack

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They are probably more widely distributed than you'd expect:

http://www.britishwildboar.org.uk/map2.html

I've seen them in the Veluwe in Holland. They used to be penned apparently but a few got out. Went round a corner on the bike and there was a heck of a comotion in the undergrowth and then this half grown boar shot out across the path and into cover on the other side about 20 yards ahead.

I understand that the herd in the midlands was a bunch of escapes from the 1987 gales when a tree brought down their fence.
 

leon-b

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AndyW said:
I've read stories like this before. I'm sure I read along with one of them something about a load of animal rights people raided a farm breeding/rearing them one time and let about 200 loose somewhere in the west country and many were never recaptured so they've continued to live wild :eek:
ive heard about this aswell

i would love the boar to make a come back and a have a good steady population in britain, what do ya reckon reality or ?
i would also love for the cats to make a comeback
leon
 

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leon-b said:
ive heard about this aswell

i would love the boar to make a come back and a have a good steady population in britain, what do ya reckon reality or ?
i would also love for the cats to make a comeback
leon

There's downsides...

They could be disease vectors/reservoirs
They do a lot of damage with rooting and rubbing

I like to see them but there are considerations in a small crowded island where any rural/farming enterprise has to look at maximising profit to survive.
 
Hello all,
My parents live at the border of the Veluwe and I have seen them many times: they're impressive. The wild pigs have strict schedules, so it is easy to know when they will be at a certain time. And as they are quite used to people good observation is not very difficult if you're careful.
As far as I know there are hardly any attacks, but when they happen it has always something to do with dogs. My personal suspicion is that people claiming an 'unprovoked attack' from wild boars have in fact let them walk free without a leash as is obligatory. Wild boars are not sissies and will defend themselves against the biggest dogs.
I've never heard of attacks against people. While tracking them in the woods I have found myself in the midst of a herd a couple of times but experienced no agression at all. But of course one has to be very careful when they have young ones.
Just a side note: the teeth of the boars were used in prehistoric times as axeblades. I've made one of those and it's great for making bowls etc.
 

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Diederik Pomstra said:
Hello all,
My parents live at the border of the Veluwe and I have seen them many times: they're impressive. The wild pigs have strict schedules, so it is easy to know when they will be at a certain time. And as they are quite used to people good observation is not very difficult if you're careful.
As far as I know there are hardly any attacks, but when they happen it has always something to do with dogs. My personal suspicion is that people claiming an 'unprovoked attack' from wild boars have in fact let them walk free without a leash as is obligatory. Wild boars are not sissies and will defend themselves against the biggest dogs.
I've never heard of attacks against people. While tracking them in the woods I have found myself in the midst of a herd a couple of times but experienced no agression at all. But of course one has to be very careful when they have young ones.
Just a side note: the teeth of the boars were used in prehistoric times as axeblades. I've made one of those and it's great for making bowls etc.

Any chance of a picture? The only time I have seen boars were in a pen in a farm in the Dordogne region of France. They were big and extremely aggressive, but no doubt in my mind it was due to the overcrowding. Apparently a farmer there had nearly lost his life after having been attacked by them. They may be less aggressive in the wild, but I am not sure I would want to meet one :eek:
 

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No wild boar, but I heard French soldiers marching and singing whilst there was no one around ... :yikes: I was told there was a prison with french soldiers :swordfigh in the Napoleon era (aprx. 1794 - 1813). Some of them managed to escape, but no one ever heard from them again (probably all died on the moor in that ferocious that can be thrown at you).
Bit spooky ... :theyareon









;)
 

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when I was serving out in germany the exercise areas had wild pigs of some sort never saw one but heard them at night they did'nt sound small!!!!
Never heard of anyone getting attacked by one and there would have been plenty of chances for them to do so if they wanted. Probably a slow news day!!!
 

leon-b

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me neither, 200kg of muscle with big tusks is enough to kill any dog
leon
 

Tengu

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Nope, a yearling badger can kill a dog.

Leopards like to prey on dogs so our big cat population may join in
 

fred gordon

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In the summer of last year a friend and myself were staying at a bothy called Oban on the west of Scotland. We travelled from there to the head of Loch Arkaig where we had left out car. At the side of a forestry trach we came across an enclosed area full of wild boar. The only problem was that many of them had got out under the wire and were walking along the forestry track (a Public Right of Way I might add). We had a brown trousers moment when we realised that several of the females had young and we were between them and their parents. We very quickly left the track and set of uphill to avoid them. My point is that had we been a family with children we could have been in serious trouble. A point the owners of the boar had obviously not considered. :(
 

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Wild pigs are pretty common here in the South - here's one taken out of Peel Forest, back in November.

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Zodiak

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Good grief the :censored: thing is trying to eat its way into the car window and has got those dogs trapped... oh no hang on its dead.
 

seamonkey

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re the dog v's pig debate, pig hunting dogs are trained to concentrate on one aspect of the animal i.e one will hold the left ear, other on top etc to subdue it, they also wear bloody big collars to protect the throat.
There are a lot of stories around about hunters losing their dogs then coming across a 300 pound boar munching away on them. i would not fancy any untrained solitary mutts chances with a boar.

The one pictured was pinned by dogs before being dispatched with a .44 marlin. A few guys will do away with the firearm and actually go in with a knife to dispatch the animal, can't say that's my cup of tea.

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G
 

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Woman, 80, saves pet dog from wild boar on Dartmoor

An 80-year-old woman fought off three wild boar as they tried to savage her dachshund during a new year walk on Dartmoor. Rosemary Hamilton-Meikle told yesterday how she used her dog's lead to frighten two of the wild pigs away and hit the third on the snout with it.

The incident is the latest in a spate of brushes with wild boar on and around the moor in Devon, which has prompted police to issue warnings about them.

Mrs Hamilton-Meikle was walking her dog, Bosun, at Buckland Monachorum, near Plymouth, on the edge of Dartmoor, when he vanished into gorse bushes. She said: "I heard a terrible screaming noise and I thought he had got into a fight with some other dogs. I rushed into the bushes and found three wild boar with Bosun lying down on the ground in front of them. They must have tossed him and were coming in to attack."
Mrs Hamilton-Meikle, of Plymouth, admitted she had been terrified, but had been determined to save her dog. She swung Bosun's lead around her head, which sent two of the boar scuttling away. But a male boar stood its ground, a metre from the pensioner.

She said: "The dog lead has a heavy metal clip so I swung it again and caught him on the nose. Then I picked up Bosun, turned around and walked out. Fortunately, the boar did not follow. It's the first time I've seen the boar, though I know a man who was chased up a tree by them. I only saw three, but locals say there are up to 15 around Buckland Monachorum."

Another walker who was close by at the time said: "We could hear the pigs grunting. It was evil. They were only 10 yards from a pathway that walkers use. It could easily have been a child that was attacked. There should be warning signs up."

In the past year animal activists have released two lots of wild boar from farms in Devon and many of the animals are still at large. On New Year's Day, the same day as Mrs Hamilton-Meikle's encounter, a man and his two dogs were confronted by the animals on Dartmoor.

Pauline Boon, 36, a taxi driver from Buckland Monachorum, said she had seen wild boar worrying sheep recently. "I was driving past a field near the village when the sheep in it suddenly scattered," she said. "I stopped the taxi and saw a wild boar chasing the sheep - they were terrified."

Jo Barr, spokeswoman for the RSPCA in the south-west, said attacks on people were rare. In the past eight years there had only been two cases in Britain in which a boar made contact with a person, she said. "They are shy creatures and frightened of humans. They are only a danger if they are cornered or if they are protecting young."

Thats from the Guardian
 

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Interesting read. But lately in England, your more lilely to get bitten/attacked by a 'pit/bull' or similar breed, than by a boar. :cool:

I would rather NOT see a boar especilly as I travel around france a lot as they are Big and scary. Easy to disturb it with young in thick undergrowth or forrest. Although if it offerd me free truffles then....

Nick
 

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Oh, I thought you were going to mention something like chiuauas or pekes or similarly nasty things....

...or their owners, if theres one thing fiercer than a peke then its its owner.

(or cockatiels which are simply animated secateurs with attitude problems.)
 

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:cool: I note with interest the lady was walking with her dog off of the lead. I thought Dartmoor was a sheep grazing area, if so why was dog off the lead? Also sausage dogs are hunting dogs, the dog found the boars so who was at fault? I am not a dog hater but I do get irritated whem people complain that thier 'domesticated animal' ( 'little snogums is a wonderful thing and never usually does that') disturbs a non domesticated animal and the non domesticated animal is blamed.

We know that this was an act of stupidity on behalf of the animal activists, I wonder when some one gets hurt will they be man enough to stand up and say 'it was our fault'?

Sandnakes


ps Happy New Year :)
 

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