Another thought

[Rhapsody]

I like to think of the 'heirarchy' of these outdoors activities as simply as possible; Survival is man out against nature, Bushcraft is man out with nature and primitive living is man out with nature without kit!

I generally don't look at it any more deeply than that, and as long as I'm enjoying myself I never really feel the need to.

 

[leon-1]

I would like to know what do you call a guy who got fed up with our way of living, moved into the woods and staid there. Through hunting and fishing he get enough food for himself and the little money he needs for flour, baking powder etc he makes as a wilderness guide.

cheers
Abbe

SENSIBLE :biggthump

 

[arctic hobo]

I would like to know what do you call a guy who got fed up with our way of living, moved into the woods and staid there. Through hunting and fishing he get enough food for himself and the little money he needs for flour, baking powder etc he makes as a wilderness guide.

cheers
Abbe

You call him Abbe, and you also call him Chris's (mine) idol! One day, one day!

 

[bambodoggy]

I would like to know what do you call a guy who got fed up with our way of living, moved into the woods and staid there. Through hunting and fishing he get enough food for himself and the little money he needs for flour, baking powder etc he makes as a wilderness guide.cheers
Abbe

I call him one thing and one thing only.....LUCKY! :super:

 

[Skippy]

I learned Bushcraft, I learned Primitive Living, (misuse of words)

I study Bushcraft, I study Primitive Living, I remember well a camping trip i made twenty years ago, yet I remember not wot I did at home last week...

 

[Adi007]

Primitive living is much more than just "skills". Primitive living it a term loaded with anthropology and paleo-archeology. Bow drills and shelters might form a a very small part of it but underneath this thin veneer (a veneer thickened dramatically by recent commercialism of such skills) is a huge and complex subject covering social structure, interaction, climate, geology and many other areas.

I find it odd that there are so many discussions on terms here and I think I have an idea as to why this is so - it's because we now live in a world where "skills" have been bought together (rather haphazardly in many cases) under single word or banner phrases such as "bushcraft", "primitive living", "survival skills" and so on. It's an artificial way to bundle together ideas for commercial consumption (much like modern day "lifestyle gurus" who repackage living int he modern world under a cool buzzword and a few bullet points

 

[Adi007]

Im not talking about cultures I am taking about the skills, i,e

I am a bushcrafter instructor

I am a primitive living instructor

The difference is?

"Primitive living instructor" feels to me a bit like the phrase "martial arts instructor" or "I'm a computers expert" - the question that would follow would be "define that". What period of human history? What climate? What ecology? I sincerely doubt that anyone can learn let alone teach every aspect of primitive living ever since the dawn of time in all conditions, climates and ecosystems. A "primitive living anthropologist" or "primitive living archaeologist" I can understand because that implies study in a field but "instructor" or "teacher" (or any other such noun) would, in my mind, be vague commercial fluff.

For example, I'll assume that most if not all people here live with modern telecommunications, water and power supply and a complex social structure that binds this together - how equipped are you to go and "teach" or "instruct" primative people (or aliens for that matter) in "modern living skills"?

 

[Gary]

"Primitive living instructor" feels to me a bit like the phrase "martial arts instructor" or "I'm a computers expert" - the question that would follow would be "define that". What period of human history? What climate? What ecology? I sincerely doubt that anyone can learn let alone teach every aspect of primitive living ever since the dawn of time in all conditions, climates and ecosystems. A "primitive living anthropologist" or "primitive living archaeologist" I can understand because that implies study in a field but "instructor" or "teacher" (or any other such noun) would, in my mind, be vague commercial fluff.

For example, I'll assume that most if not all people here live with modern telecommunications, water and power supply and a complex social structure that binds this together - how equipped are you to go and "teach" or "instruct" primative people (or aliens for that matter) in "modern living skills"?

Excellent point Mate! :You_Rock_ its like the classic ex-sas survival instructor as opposeed to plan old survival instructor. However I was using the term instructor to diffientiate between the two, I could equally have said,

I'm a student of Bushcraft

Or

I'm a student of primitive living

The point is being a something of one or the other doesnt matter its the subject and the question of the difference in the core skills.

Adi here you have hit many nails on the head - "I find it odd that there are so many discussions on terms here and I think I have an idea as to why this is so - it's because we now live in a world where "skills" have been bought together (rather haphazardly in many cases) under single word or banner phrases such as "bushcraft", "primitive living", "survival skills" and so on. It's an artificial way to bundle together ideas for commercial consumption (much like modern day "lifestyle gurus" who repackage living int he modern world under a cool buzzword and a few bullet points"

Well donr mate - excellent answer IMO :You_Rock_

 

[Burnt Ash]

Gary, I don't think we could communicate very well without terms. Western civilization has immersed itself in terminology and naming things is an effective tool for understanding many aspects of life on this planet.

"men begin at settling the significations of their words"
Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan, 1651