three hungry boys - what a waste of time

[Ogri the trog]

This thread has had more than its fair share of reports about it being over-political and offers little in the way of positive comment. A large percentage of hth posts could be removed from this thread without influencing the actual titled discussion.

I would like this thread to remain "on topic" from here on in as I can barely justify leaving it open as it stands - keep within the rules folks

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[Martyn]

No problem Pete. From here on I'll leave the discussion of the crappness of Hugh Fernly Whittingstall's TV show alone, to no-doubt enrich the masses with stimulating debate and leave the crass and shallow subject of Chinas socio-economic reform, to facebook where it belongs. Can we still talk about spam and corned beef?

 

[Martyn]

I apologise for the sarcasm Pete. I guess I'm just a bit irritated about complaints over what I thinkis a fairly harmless discussion. I doubt anybody is really all that bothered about preserving the integrity of the original topic, the thread is in the chatter forum and while it does cover politics, it's more of an academic discussion rather than the kind that is likely to cause a raging argument. It might be worth looking to see who has complained to see if there might be something else going on? Just a thought. Apologies again for the sarcasm.

 

[craeg]

I really used to like HFW in the early days of "A cook on the wild side" & first "River cottage", but HFW's new stuff is rubbish and panders to the self-rightous, wealthy toffs. As for THBs, well I watched the first series and kind of enjoyed it for light entertainment sake but now, give me a break. It is total , well any expletive will do

But the original idea of a milk float trip, "Three men in a float" tells the story of Dan Kieran, Ian Vince and Prasanth Visweswaran and their, errrr trip in a milk float

This was also a spin-off of Jerome K. Jerome's "Three men in a boat", and both are an excellent read. "Three men in a float" re-affirmed my faith in normal people's ability to help others out when they were in a fix.

But the comment below about if everybody was out forraging then there would be nowt left for us that like a bit of it, so let them lot just watch it on their Chinese-child built 50" tellys

Nuff said

 

[tytek]

Do you reckon they could do a similar show to 3HB (no money, etc) in a major city like London?
I doubt it. They would be living in cardboard boxes by the end of the series!!!

 

[Gotte]

As the OP, can I just say, without wanting the thread to be locked for going off topic, that i found the drift onto the topic of China and iphones actually very interesting and informative. I know that it goes against the rules, but just would like to say that it informed me and made me think.

 

[drliamski]

Caught a bit of this and yes it was pretty annoying. Liked their cookware though!

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[johnboy]

It looks to me as though it had little choice. The oppression of the 80's couldn't go on. Remember Tienanmen square? I think it was a case of reform of face a revolution. The current socialist market economy is a compromise that has been forced on the state. It's eroded their power and I think is pretty clearly a transitional phase in Chinas history. Sooner or later, they will demand a multi party sytem and an elected government, it's human nature. The alternative is to doom yourself to global isolation and totalitarianism, like North Korea - which will implode eventually.

Hi,

At the risk of getting banned, stood down or the thread locked I'll proffer a response.

Deng Xiaoping had steered China on the pathway to economic reform before the events at Tiananmen Square in 1989. Economic reform began in the late 1970's and continued apace in the early to mid 80's. So reform of the system was occuring prior to 1989 and has continued after. We were discussing Shenzhen earlier, Shenzhen was designated a Special economic Zone in the late 70's...


Far from being a compromise the current system is designed to offer the benifits of a free market economy with retention of a single party state.

The Chinese tend to plan on a different time scale than Western Governments. So it's not unsusal for 'plans' to be set out over 10,20,30 year time frames...

One view you could argue is that from a historical perspective every phase in the history of a Nation is trasnsitional. But I agree at some point the Chinese people may demand a different political system for themselves. As long as it's what they want not what were telling them they should have and it's implemented with out bloodshed then let them crack on.

I think your comparison with North Korea is flawed as China is totally different politically and Socially. Far from being closed or isolationist China is open for world trade and a lot of the stuff ( if not the majority) we consume in the west from Karrimor SF rucksacks to I Phones is made there.



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[Ogri the trog]

It nearly made it back on track!

Ogri the trog