Uk legal EDC what you carrying

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marcelxl

Settler
May 2, 2010
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Kamloops, B.C.
Leatherman charge tti

It's not a knife, it's a multitool. As i am male, it's my god defined duty to fix things.

That is my reason officer :)

+1!

Although I have retired my TTi "for best" and now carry another alu type charge instead. But I am a Joiner midweek so no-one cares if there is a pouch with something sharp hanging from my Snickers trousers but also I am so used to having and using it everyday that I am lost without and I do chance that being an Angler, Archer, outdoorsman or whatever you like to call yourself I should always "have reasonable cause"

I always have a slippy with me too, Boker XS for work (cheap, solid and great in the hand) Alox farmer when outdoors and "doing" - the other tools come in all the time and then I take out my UKPK if I am feeling posh or want to impress the chicks:p
 

marcelxl

Settler
May 2, 2010
638
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Kamloops, B.C.
I disagree to an extent, my edcarrying of my leatherman has saved the taxpayers thousands in saved pounds... When I see a problem at work, I fix it if I can rather than call out a chippy/plumber/locksmith/etc

And our laws and on occasion our police are a joke. My multitool is just that, it is not a weapon.

If I wanted to stab someone, I'd get a. Pack of 6 knives from Poundland and then ditch it in the river.... Not use a £100 multitool that's carried in a £20 aftermarket leather belt sheath.

I have a professional requirement to know my job inside out.... The police should know PACE and every other aspect of criminal and civil law they are there to uphold.

The police are not there to interpret laws and apply them according to individual moral belief or the whim of the day........

That's what we pay senile 75yo judges to do.......

:lmao:

Very good post!
 

vizsla

Native
Jun 6, 2010
1,517
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Derbyshire
Heres my trusty case trapper
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sent from my secret retreat
 

NS40

Nomad
Nov 20, 2011
362
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Scotland
It's been a long while since I've had a regular EDC as I have little purpose for one on a day to day basis outside my home (unless I'm out doing something specific and then I'll generally carry the right tool for the task). I'm old enough that I used to carry a penknife to school every day and in my last job I used to carry a multitool with me everywhere as having something sharp that also had pliers/screwdriver etc was handy. I do miss having an EDC but prefer fixed or lockable blades so just don't bother with an EDC.

If I'm knocking about at home, I generally have my little Gerber Ripstop close to hand. Great for packages, cutting paracord, opening packs of biccies, etc. Wish I could use it as an EDC but it locks so I can't.

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The knives I carry for other hobbies (climbing, fishing, river cleanups) are either lockers or fixed blades although carried securely in a pack when travelling and seldom worn on my belt
 

cbr6fs

Native
Mar 30, 2011
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Athens, Greece
Leatherman charge tti

It's not a knife, it's a multitool. As i am male, it's my god defined duty to fix things.

That is my reason officer :)

+1

Although my charge Tti i find to heavy for every day carrying so i have a Skeletool CX for mosst days and the Tti in my dog walking bag.


Knife laws in Greece are weird, my understanding is apart from a flick or butterfly knife you can carry pretty much anything, but if the cops stop you then you must have a convincing reason for having it and if self defence is mentioned they'll nail your bottom to the nearest phone pole.

I do still carry my Skeletool CX round with when i'm back over in the UK though.
To be honest i've not been searched by a cop since i as a teenager (now 42) so the chances of a cop stopping me ad wanting to search me are pretty slim, if he does then i'll just empty my first aid kit out first then the LM.
The first aid kit should cancel out the knife in my logic :)

For some odd reason i can't remember a snapped a pic of what i usually carry a while ago, it's still pretty much the same now, except i have a Zebralight SC600 in the bag now as well.


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cave_dweller

Nomad
Apr 9, 2010
296
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Vale of Glamorgan
The police should know PACE and every other aspect of criminal and civil law they are there to uphold.

Sorry, but I don't think that's realistic. The law in the UK is a complex mish-mash of statute and case law, and even the judges and lawyers don't know all of it. Expecting a street copper to know the ins and outs of it all is asking a bit much. However... if they get it wrong, say by not knowing details of the Criminal Justice Act 1988, then we should expect the system to sort that out before court time gets wasted - usually by a trip to see the nice desk sergeant. Wrongful arrest can end up being pretty expensive.
 

jonajuna

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Jul 12, 2008
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The aspect if law as the police would apply is not so complex that a well paid professional could not be expected to know.

Policing, like health, social care, etc us a vocation not a job.

If there's something you don't know that you need to know in the execution of your duty. It's your duty to learn it
 

mrcharly

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Jan 25, 2011
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North Yorkshire, UK
UK law is very deliberately worded so as to be 'woolly'. It allows for the circumstances to be taken into account. So 'the law' isn't black and white.
 

jonajuna

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Jul 12, 2008
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I'm not sure case law is applicable to day to day policing. Statutory acts are generally not that woolly unless knowingly misapplied, for example, "its illegal to photograph a police officer", "its illegal to be naked in public", "the police have the right to stop and search without specific intelligence at midnight, midweek, ten miles away from the nearest football club."

Or, "we won't arrest the perp in a domestic violence incident unless the victim press charges," "its not in the public interest to arrest someone being threatening to healthcare staff as they are public workers and should have a higher tolerance of abusive language than the general public", "my warrant card overrides the DPA"

I'm not a copper nor a lawyer but I have near daily interaction with them from civvy staff, PCSO, PC, custody staff through to Inspectors.

Some have excellent knowledge, attitude and apparent interpretation of how the law is applied

So how come its only some and not most?

I guess we have different expectations and experiences of them. I dont think it unreasonable to expect them to be experts in the laws the police have our consent to enforce

But I'll happily agree to disagree :)
 

Flasheart

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Dec 19, 2008
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Staffordshire
Fact-if it's under 3" and is not a locking blade.....you need not have ANY reason for carrying it.

The only offences involve being on school premises or if you have an intention to use it as an offensive weapon.

By law, a knife like this is exempt from any "bladed article" offences....

Your SAK is COMPLETELY legal ;-)
 

Adze

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Oct 9, 2009
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Cumbria
www.adamhughes.net
The only offences involve being on school premises

Define on school premises please - is it 'picking the kids up from school, leave the EDC at home' ?

or if you have an intention to use it as an offensive weapon.

A biro is illegal if your intention is to use it as an offensive weapon... as is a stick of candy floss. The article itself isn't the illegal bit though, it's the intention to use it for an illegal act.
 

jonajuna

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Jul 12, 2008
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Though my leatherman is completely illegal due to it locking

Though I suspect more knife crime has been and will be committed with a sub 3" folder than with a leatherman.

Hence my earlier statement the law is stoopid and some coppers misapplication of clear laws is equally so
 

jonajuna

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Jul 12, 2008
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But my reason of "being male and therefore a fixer of things once good but now broken" isn't likely to hold much water.

Especially if I wasn't white, getting on and living in a small provincial town.... ;)
 

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