EDC no more?
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SimonM
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Wow...I go away for a few days and look what happens
I think it's time for a
and move on.
As in all subjects, we have to agree to disagree at times, without getting personal.
Knives are always going to be an emotive subject and the fact that some police officers appear to have forgotten the wording of the law should come as no surprise as they have so much to remember.
This thread seems to have gone round in circles and lost its way a little. We aren't discussing HOW a knife is carried, rather whether or not we still have the legal right to carry one.
Personally, I never carry a knife at work, as I work in a school, but I do have several folders and invariably have one of them on me during the day.
I think a little common sense needs to be applied when carrying:
Finally, if you are stopped by the Police:
Simon
I think it's time for a
and move on.As in all subjects, we have to agree to disagree at times, without getting personal.
Knives are always going to be an emotive subject and the fact that some police officers appear to have forgotten the wording of the law should come as no surprise as they have so much to remember.
This thread seems to have gone round in circles and lost its way a little. We aren't discussing HOW a knife is carried, rather whether or not we still have the legal right to carry one.
Personally, I never carry a knife at work, as I work in a school, but I do have several folders and invariably have one of them on me during the day.
I think a little common sense needs to be applied when carrying:
- Be discreet in both usage and carry method.
- If you know you are going drinking, leave it at home as most pubs and clubs will have their own rules.
- Don't enter a school or a Court building carrying.
Finally, if you are stopped by the Police:
- Admit to carrying a knife if you are - they don't like surprises when they find it!
- Be polite - getting shirty just means more lost time for you...
- If they are unsure about the exact wording of the law, help them out. They can always check if you are right over the radio...
Simon
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Wow...I go away for a few days and look what happens
I think it's time for a
As in all subjects, we have to agree to disagree at times, without getting personal.
Knives are always going to be an emotive subject and the fact that some police officers appear to have forgotten the wording of the law should come as no surprise as they have so much to remember.
This thread seems to have gone round in circles and lost its way a little. We aren't discussing HOW a knife is carried, rather whether or not we still have teh legal right to carry one.
Personally, I never carry a knife at work, as I work in a school, but I do have several foldes and invariably have one of them on me during the day.
I think a little common sense needs to be applied when carrying:
- Be discreet in both usage and carry method.
- If you know you are going drinking, leave it at home as most pubs and clubs will have their own rules.
- Don't enter a school or a Court building carrying.
Finally, if you are stopped by the Police:
- Admit to carrying a knife if you are - they don't like surprises when they find it!
- Be polite - getting shirty just means more lost time for you...
- If they are unsure about the exact wording of the law, help them out. They can always check if you are right over the radio...
Simon
Well said on all counts
Just wondering, I have a gerber suspension that I like to keep handy, it has a spring lock to keep all the tools in place. Does this mean its illegal for me to have it as an edc?
Like most of the latest generation multitools they are made for the American market where they don't have such tight restrictions on locking blades , if it locks the blade or other sharp tools in place it will be illegal as an edc !
On my van keys i have a gerber artifact it has a scalpel blade that locks in place and locks open when in use , a police officer friend of mine advised not to carry it with a blade in it . things are getting a bit of a joke !!
Craig..............
Ok cheers, I got it over a leatherman that didn't lock on the advice of millets in perth. (Was told both were legal carry) If I removed the lock would this change things?
Hi Rik
I worked in a design studio for years (aged 48 now) and only ever used my old army clasp knife to sharpen my pencils...but it stayed in the studio at night. Now however I'm out and about with camera equipment a lot of the time and when I do I will always carry a multitool with me, damned useful piece of kit.
However, (and this is not an argument against EDC) I don't carry when I'm out with the family unless we're on a camp or hike...just because I don't feel I have a need for anything.
For others, I suspect that carrying a blade of some description has become a way of life. Things have changed radically for any of us that are now over 30 or so. Hell's Teeth...I remember that during the school hols as a kid I'd cycle around with an air rifle or .410 in a gun slip on my back, with pellets/carts in my pocket an old sheath knife strapped to my belt and probably with a catty stuffed up my jumper...a happy cycling violation all of my own!
Policing was a lot different in those days.
Happy times
Sack
Sorry guys, just read the whiole thread....didn't want to open up the can of worms again...
Please consider me slinking off
Slunk
Sack
Please consider me slinking off
Slunk
Sack
Well its a mad world we live in !! Whether it be knife or gun laws , it seem to me that the gang member /drug dealer etc dont actually give two hoots for the law/rules and all us "normal/responsible" folk pay the price , but the law is the law and ignorance of it is no excuse , fortunately i live in the sticks on Dartmoor so its not an issue for me , but occasionally i have to jump in the car to go to town and once forgot i had my mora on my belt , realized when people in the que were looking and whispering , partly the smell of fire smoke and looking like i had been dragged through a hedge backwards might have had something to do with it . I am 50 now and have carried a knife of some description since i can remember , just not when in town /auction / pub etc. When i was 13 i took a savage 8 shot pump action shotgun and an old cooey single barell on the 10 mile journey by bus , to school to do up, re blue for a woodwork project !! and for good measure took my opinel no 15 i think 20inches long when open and locked to show off !!Not saying that sort of thing was sensible or safe then , but just try doing it today , and see how long you last .
The problem in Britain, everyone worries to much about whats right and whats wrong, just carry the knife and be done, sick of reading posts about all the ,is this 1/2 inch multitool okay for here and is this ok for EDC....blah blah.
Rant over, sorry.
Rant over, sorry.
It's not what's right or wrong dude, it's what legal and what's not,, it come down to context, if you in you tracksuit heading down the woods around your local crime black spot with a knife in you pocket legal or not if your stopped and searched you will be going to the police station. but a guy in the woods with permission camping carving away with a foot long SURVIVAL knife, "probably" wouldn't even have to ever talk to police.
Clearly you don't live in Britain then, it's a newly developing cultural thing to be weary of knives and it's the media who's to blame.
Law abiding people like me and many others on here want to be exactly within the law as not to be criminalised like a common thug. You need to be carefull when advising people to 'just carry the knife and be done' as that isn't acceptable in our society anymore.
Knife crime is very fashionable for the news to go nuts over these days we can't afford to not be freshley educated on such a sensative topic!
Things are different in the UK compared to the deep south (we can't marry 14 year old cousins for instance). Unless a tool of your trade there is no need to carry a blade on your person. If you need to use pencils get a pencil sharpener. It just seems some folk here have some kind of almost innate need to make life difficult for themselves (potentially).
really well said mate, i bowed out of this thread when it looked inevitable that it was to degenerate into a mug slinging match, it's nice to see a voice of calm reason keeping it within the realms of what's acceptable on a forum of this nature.
as opposed to......
wow! i know that politics and religion are banned from the forum, could someone please clarify for me just exactly where we stand on the kind of completely unwarranted offensive and inflamatory remark that i've quoted above,
thanks
stuart
and some it seems haveinnate need to insult anyone who doesn't follow their train of though.
The legislation specifialy exempts a pocket knife as long as its sub 3 and none locking therefore you can carry it- no amount of insults from rik will change that fact.
